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2013-08-14 03:21:09 PM

Treygreen13: DROxINxTHExWIND: DeMarcus Russell

JaMarcus. And that guy is probably the reason the rookie pay scale happened. 68 million of the Raiders money was allocated to him and 31.5 million of it was totally lost.


No probably about it. They should rename the salary cap and call it the "Russell Ceiling". Helping to protect GMs and owners from themselves since 2007.
 
2013-08-14 03:24:23 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Treygreen13: DROxINxTHExWIND: DeMarcus Russell

JaMarcus. And that guy is probably the reason the rookie pay scale happened. 68 million of the Raiders money was allocated to him and 31.5 million of it was totally lost.

No probably about it. They should rename the salary cap and call it the "Russell Ceiling". Helping to protect GMs and owners from themselves since 2007.


It was incredibly dumb what was happening, but that (and the Kwame Brown factor in the NBA).  But it's not surprising; sports business practices are incredibly fertile ground for game theory.
 
2013-08-14 03:25:10 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Gus Frerotte jamming his neck in the stadium wall


CSB: My buddy Fatass (HUGE 'Skins fan) was sitting 5 rows above the Frerotte Divot. To this day, he'll go apoplectic over any mention of that celebration of a 2nd-quarter TD to tie the game at 7 in 1997's Week 13.

// game ended in a tie, too
 
2013-08-14 03:29:36 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Treygreen13: DROxINxTHExWIND: DeMarcus Russell

JaMarcus. And that guy is probably the reason the rookie pay scale happened. 68 million of the Raiders money was allocated to him and 31.5 million of it was totally lost.

No probably about it. They should rename the salary cap and call it the "Russell Ceiling". Helping to protect GMs and owners from themselves since 2007.


Speaking of dumb: Dan Snyder.

Albert Haynesworth!
 
2013-08-14 03:31:32 PM

Dr Dreidel: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Gus Frerotte jamming his neck in the stadium wall

CSB: My buddy Fatass (HUGE 'Skins fan) was sitting 5 rows above the Frerotte Divot. To this day, he'll go apoplectic over any mention of that celebration of a 2nd-quarter TD to tie the game at 7 in 1997's Week 13.

// game ended in a tie, too


*head-desk -padding*

www.antisteez.com
 
2013-08-14 03:34:34 PM

UNC_Samurai: DROxINxTHExWIND: Treygreen13: DROxINxTHExWIND: DeMarcus Russell

JaMarcus. And that guy is probably the reason the rookie pay scale happened. 68 million of the Raiders money was allocated to him and 31.5 million of it was totally lost.

No probably about it. They should rename the salary cap and call it the "Russell Ceiling". Helping to protect GMs and owners from themselves since 2007.

It was incredibly dumb what was happening, but that (and the Kwame Brown factor in the NBA).  But it's not surprising; sports business practices are incredibly fertile ground for game theory.


Sort of puts the Pats moving down every year into perspective, though.

harvardsportsanalysis.files.wordpress.com

You could move to the 2nd and avoid almost the entire curve.
 
2013-08-14 03:44:42 PM

UNC_Samurai: Even more impressive considering he went to a Baptist school - although I think he ended up at Baylor because a coach bailed on his first choice and Baylor has a very good track program.


My son just graduated from Baylor in May. The students there are pretty mixed. They aren't all the "no dancing, no shorts" types you might be picturing. It's not a seminary.
 
2013-08-14 04:00:24 PM

muck4doo: UNC_Samurai: Even more impressive considering he went to a Baptist school - although I think he ended up at Baylor because a coach bailed on his first choice and Baylor has a very good track program.

My son just graduated from Baylor in May. The students there are pretty mixed. They aren't all the "no dancing, no shorts" types you might be picturing. It's not a seminary.


And that he's from Copperas Cove (outside of Belton/Fort Hood), about an hour drive from Baylor.
 
2013-08-14 04:00:43 PM

muck4doo: UNC_Samurai: Even more impressive considering he went to a Baptist school - although I think he ended up at Baylor because a coach bailed on his first choice and Baylor has a very good track program.

My son just graduated from Baylor in May. The students there are pretty mixed. They aren't all the "no dancing, no shorts" types you might be picturing. It's not a seminary.


Yeah, they have more rules in their student code of conduct that can get you kicked out of your extracurriculars, I believe. But like you said, it's not the seminary. Or the semenary. Hehehe
 
2013-08-14 04:02:23 PM

Di Atribe: Yeah, they have more rules in their student code of conduct that can get you kicked out of your extracurriculars, I believe. But like you said, it's not the seminary. Or the semenary my mouth. Hehe


FTFY
 
2013-08-14 04:05:39 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: whizbangthedirtfarmer: DROxINxTHExWIND: ko_kyi: I seldom agree with Donovan McNabb, but how is having your injured quarterback doing DAILY press conferences during camp helpful?


Meh. People said the same bullshiat last off-season.

"OMG! He has a nickname and commercials and he's never played a game!"
"Oh noes! He's on another magazine cover!"

All he did was go out and win rookie of the year while carrying my Redskins to the NFC East title. This is all the biatching of bored people who have nothing better to talk about. The first time he throws a touchdown or scambles for 40 yards, you and everyone like you will be cheering and acting like you were never critical.

He barely edged out Russell Wilson, who I would argue had far less expected of him and shocked more people with his play.  RGIII had nowhere to go but down.  That said, as someone who lives near DC, I do miss the days when the 'Skins were more of a comedy act.

\Ah, Jeff George drilling his receivers in the back on a regular basis never got old
\\or Heath Shuler getting injured for the 15th time
\\\or Gus Frerotte jamming his neck in the stadium wall


I don't think we should punish RGIII because the blockheads on the football draft shows missed on Russell Wilson. Remember, those are some of the same guys who wrote articles like, "DeMarcus Russell is a Sure Thing!"

And if those are the Redskins days that you remember the most, you sound young.


/Riggo on 4th and 1
//Doug Williams and the 18 plays - Second Qtr of the Super Bowl
///Mark Rypien getting sacked 8 times all year in 1991


/Joe Theismann throwing 5 interceptions on his birthday against the Cowboys in the monday night opener 1986
//Joe Theisman later that season getting his leg snapped in a monday night game against the Giants.
///Joe hates mondays
 
2013-08-14 04:08:29 PM

muck4doo: //Joe Theisman later that season getting his leg snapped in a monday night game against the Giants.


my memory of that was my dad watching the game after telling me to do dishes.  i'm scrubbing away, and then he goes "OH!  OH MY GOD!  WHOA!  YOU GOTTA SEE THIS!"

i figured it would be some cool 99-yd runback or amazing INT pick six, who knows....intead, THANKS DAD I LIKE WATCHING DUDE'S LEGS SNAP CLEAN IN HALF.

JERK
 
2013-08-14 04:10:14 PM

rickythepenguin: i figured it would be some cool 99-yd runback or amazing INT pick six, who knows....intead, THANKS DAD I LIKE WATCHING DUDE'S LEGS SNAP CLEAN IN HALF.


Then you were exposed to Theismann's broadcasting career and you gained an appreciation for that play and wished you could see it more. Right? I'm not the only one, right?
 
2013-08-14 04:21:04 PM

rickythepenguin: Di Atribe: Yeah, they have more rules in their student code of conduct that can get you kicked out of your extracurriculars, I believe. But like you said, it's not the seminary. Or the semenary my mouth. Hehe

FTFY


Why, Mr. Penguin, I do declare your post has given me the vapors! I would NEVER do somethin so vile!
 
2013-08-14 04:23:23 PM

IAmRight: rickythepenguin: i figured it would be some cool 99-yd runback or amazing INT pick six, who knows....intead, THANKS DAD I LIKE WATCHING DUDE'S LEGS SNAP CLEAN IN HALF.

Then you were exposed to Theismann's broadcasting career and you gained an appreciation for that play and wished you could see it more. Right? I'm not the only one, right?


i can't think of him with "Super Beta Prostate" coming into my head, because during that thirty second spot the name is repeated like one hundred times.
 
2013-08-14 04:27:32 PM

IAmRight: Right? I'm not the only one, right?


I've never been into gore and certainly not sports gore.  whenever ESPN or whoemver does the, "we warn young and sensitive viewers, this footage is graphic WHICH IS WHY WE'RE SHOWING YOU A CLIP FROM THE SECOND TIER AUSTRALIAN RULES FOOTBALL LEAGUE during the prime time show in Week 7 of th eNFL season and World Series Game 6 is tomorrow" i turn away.

Di Atribe: Why, Mr. Penguin, I do declare your post has given me the vapors! I would NEVER do somethin so vile!


I carn't fookin wait for the Graphs.  warr graffs, warrrr?

and i'm also dying to start posting my spread picks again.  i love that shiat.
 
2013-08-14 04:29:18 PM

SenorBenedict: i can't think of him with "Super Beta Prostate" coming into my head, because during that thirty second spot the name is repeated like one hundred times.


I always find myself thinking the same thing during that commercial. Theissman says at any stadium he'd go to "the first bathroom he could find," and I think to myself, Well, yeah, Joe most folks do go to the first bathroom they can find when they have to piss. Very few people see a bathroom and say to themselves, "Well, I have to go, but let's see if there's another bathroom along the way."
 
2013-08-14 04:33:37 PM

EyeballKid: Well, yeah, Joe most folks do go to the first bathroom they can find when they have to piss. Very few people see a bathroom and say to themselves, "Well, I have to go, but let's see if there's another bathroom along the way."


Sometimes I'll skip over one if there's a really long line or sh*t smeared all over the walls or something that makes it a less than desirable location.

/I have never seen that ad
//I have an amazing ability to completely ignore all commercials
 
2013-08-14 04:35:04 PM

rickythepenguin: I carn't fookin wait for the Graphs. warr graffs, warrrr?

and i'm also dying to start posting my spread picks again. i love that shiat.


I know. There have been Tuesdays this past 8 months or so when would I wake up, thinking there was a graph to be made that day, but alas, it was not foobaw season. And my heart languished and my soul lamented. But forsooth.....

i27.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-14 04:38:10 PM

Di Atribe: And my heart languished and my soul lamented. But forsooth.....



would that i could offer my shoulder....and sneak a handful, mason dufner style.....what?  i didn't say anything?

yup.  it is almost here.

hey. aren't we hosting you guys saturday?  i thought i heard that.   camps are in town (instead of Flagstaff, about a 3 hour drive north of Phoenix) but I'm not going.  It is supposedly really cool (and free) but I'm not really into preseason.
 
2013-08-14 04:40:14 PM

rickythepenguin: hey. aren't we hosting you guys saturday? i thought i heard that. camps are in town (instead of Flagstaff, about a 3 hour drive north of Phoenix) but I'm not going. It is supposedly really cool (and free) but I'm not really into preseason.


Yessssssssss.... I believe we are playing at 3:30 our time in your big fancy stadjum. I mean I'M excited. If you wanna be excited with me, that's cool. I might even let you dufner me.
 
2013-08-14 04:42:32 PM

Di Atribe: I might even let you dufner me.


Clever girl.  i see what you did.

hey don't we paly in the regular season?  we should make a bet.
 
2013-08-14 04:55:18 PM

rickythepenguin: Di Atribe: I might even let you dufner me.

Clever girl.  i see what you did.

hey don't we paly in the regular season?  we should make a bet.


You wish. Our opponents are thus: Giants, Chiefs, Rams, Chargers, Broncos, Redskins, Iggles, Loins, Vikings, Saints, Rai-duhs, da Bears, Packers.
 
2013-08-14 04:59:17 PM

Di Atribe: You wish. Our opponents are thus: Giants, Chiefs, Rams, Chargers, Broncos, Redskins, Iggles, Loins, Vikings, Saints, Rai-duhs, da Bears, Packers.


huh.  i thought we had a mid season matchup.

i think we're going to the Rams game.  my wife saw some human interest piece about Cortland Finnegan, where he i guess helped some cancer girl run some race or something (??) and so she's all creaming her jeans about how sensitive and special he is.  and i'm lik,e "hey dummy, you DO KNOW he's been voted the NFL's most hated player for like, 3 years in a row, right?"  she's like, "nuh uh, he's super sweet!"

so she asked who he plays for, and when i said the rams she's like, "OMG WE HAVE TO GO TO THAT GAME."

hey, you never know.  it could mean somthing.  like a Week 13 matchup or some shiat.  mid dcember.  you never know.
 
2013-08-14 05:00:37 PM

Treygreen13: DROxINxTHExWIND: DeMarcus Russell

JaMarcus. And that guy is probably the reason the rookie pay scale happened. 68 million of the Raiders money was allocated to him and 31.5 million of it was totally lost.


I love JaMarcus for that.
 
2013-08-14 05:03:15 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: whizbangthedirtfarmer: DROxINxTHExWIND: ko_kyi: I seldom agree with Donovan McNabb, but how is having your injured quarterback doing DAILY press conferences during camp helpful?


Meh. People said the same bullshiat last off-season.

"OMG! He has a nickname and commercials and he's never played a game!"
"Oh noes! He's on another magazine cover!"

All he did was go out and win rookie of the year while carrying my Redskins to the NFC East title. This is all the biatching of bored people who have nothing better to talk about. The first time he throws a touchdown or scambles for 40 yards, you and everyone like you will be cheering and acting like you were never critical.

He barely edged out Russell Wilson, who I would argue had far less expected of him and shocked more people with his play.  RGIII had nowhere to go but down.  That said, as someone who lives near DC, I do miss the days when the 'Skins were more of a comedy act.

\Ah, Jeff George drilling his receivers in the back on a regular basis never got old
\\or Heath Shuler getting injured for the 15th time
\\\or Gus Frerotte jamming his neck in the stadium wall


I don't think we should punish RGIII because the blockheads on the football draft shows missed on Russell Wilson. Remember, those are some of the same guys who wrote articles like, "DeMarcus Russell is a Sure Thing!"

And if those are the Redskins days that you remember the most, you sound young.



Oh, I was but a wee one when I watched my father's head explode when the Broncos went up in the Super Bowl, only to get shredded afterwards.  He lost some money on that one.

\still, my fond memories are of their complete ineptitude
 
2013-08-14 05:05:49 PM

rickythepenguin: i think we're going to the Rams game. my wife saw some human interest piece about Cortland Finnegan, where he i guess helped some cancer girl run some race or something (??) and so she's all creaming her jeans about how sensitive and special he is. and i'm lik,e "hey dummy, you DO KNOW he's been voted the NFL's most hated player for like, 3 years in a row, right?" she's like, "nuh uh, he's super sweet!"

so she asked who he plays for, and when i said the rams she's like, "OMG WE HAVE TO GO TO THAT GAME."

hey, you never know. it could mean somthing. like a Week 13 matchup or some shiat. mid dcember. you never know.


Oooooooooh well? First of all, your wife seems very sweet. And perhaps if she sees him in action, she may realize that his helping the little cancer child run a race was probably court-ordered & revise her opinion of him. Maybe. I mean, you should at least go & find out.

And I'm not even gonna joke about that Week 13 matchup thing. The Universe really loves to fark with me when it comes to making prophetic jokes, so I will just smile & keep my thoughts inside my head and say, "Well good luck beating those Rams. They just might be good this year! That Steven Jackson is always looking to have a breakout year!"
 
2013-08-14 05:07:53 PM

Di Atribe: And perhaps if she sees him in action, she may realize that his helping the little cancer child run a race was probably court-ordered & revise her opinion of him


I just LOLd.  thanks.
 
2013-08-14 05:18:48 PM

EyeballKid: SenorBenedict: i can't think of him with "Super Beta Prostate" coming into my head, because during that thirty second spot the name is repeated like one hundred times.

I always find myself thinking the same thing during that commercial. Theissman says at any stadium he'd go to "the first bathroom he could find," and I think to myself, Well, yeah, Joe most folks do go to the first bathroom they can find when they have to piss. Very few people see a bathroom and say to themselves, "Well, I have to go, but let's see if there's another bathroom along the way."


Not to mention if you worked in sports broadcasting and needed to be on the air during specific periods of time, wouldn't it be a smart idea to scope out bathroom locations in advance so you can make that quick "shiat I shouldn't have gotten jalapeno nachos" break?

Still not as bad as The Goose shilling adult diapers for fat people. Or former boner juice Jamie Lee Curtis for shiat medication.
 
2013-08-14 05:20:45 PM
RGIII is a good man.......His parents should quite proud of the son they raised, should be more people like him.
 
2013-08-14 07:26:08 PM
Well OK then. In that case, I'm willing to accept blacks in the NFL now.
 
2013-08-14 09:18:09 PM

tnpir: Griffin, who starred as rookie for the Redskins last season and is recovering from offseason knee surgery, added, "My view on it is, yes, I am a Christian, but to each his own. You do what you want to do. If some Christians want to look at being gay as a sin, then thinking about other women, committing adultery-or any of those other sins that are in the Bible-those are sins, too. And God looks at all of us the same way,"

More Christians should follow this lead.


Not only that, but RG3 is one intelligent human being.  I really genuinely like the guy, and I felt weird and awful last year because I was so excited for my Seahawks to destroy the Redskins...but I didn't want to see him get hurt.  I really felt bad on that play on the 5 yd line when it was obvious he just blew up his knee.  My wife and mother were asking what was wrong because I got emotional.

This man has a great future ahead of him after football, and I hope all the best for him.
 
2013-08-14 09:18:55 PM

Treygreen13: UNC_Samurai: DROxINxTHExWIND: Treygreen13: DROxINxTHExWIND: DeMarcus Russell

JaMarcus. And that guy is probably the reason the rookie pay scale happened. 68 million of the Raiders money was allocated to him and 31.5 million of it was totally lost.

No probably about it. They should rename the salary cap and call it the "Russell Ceiling". Helping to protect GMs and owners from themselves since 2007.

It was incredibly dumb what was happening, but that (and the Kwame Brown factor in the NBA).  But it's not surprising; sports business practices are incredibly fertile ground for game theory.

Sort of puts the Pats moving down every year into perspective, though.

[harvardsportsanalysis.files.wordpress.com image 461x425]

You could move to the 2nd and avoid almost the entire curve.


Thanks, great chart.  But what are edollars?  Kind of like bitcoins?
 
2013-08-15 01:59:56 AM
You play a sport which is nothing more than professional grabass with other grown men. Of course you're ok with playing with gays, er... I mean pro footballers.
 
2013-08-15 11:29:43 AM

Terrible Old Man: You play a sport which is nothing more than professional grabass with other grown men. Of course you're ok with playing with gays, er... I mean pro footballers.


There's slightly more to the game than that, but ok, if you need something to be grumpy about, I guess this is fairly innocuous.
 
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