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2013-08-14 10:18:41 AM
I fail to see the problem here Johnny Boy.
 
2013-08-14 10:22:36 AM
There are still plenty of sheep that like to be told what to think
 
2013-08-14 10:31:24 AM
Oh, boo-frickedy-hoo you little baby.  Adapt or be left behind.  The internet has given the people a voice, even if a lot of extremely crazy people use that voice to promote extremely crazy shiat.

Wha I expect he meant was the internet has made it harder to control.  Govern, maybe, but control, definitely.  And it's only going to get worse for the highest echelon, who until recently has been used to near universal media and message control.

/Tinfoil side note: I expect this is what 'net neutrality' is really about; not some idiotic ala-carte service to "promote market competition" or whatever, but as a means to suppress dissent and free speech by using ISP-corporations to marginalize the outlets
 
2013-08-14 10:32:04 AM
Access to foreign media sources is a real buzz kill for the US government.
 
2013-08-14 10:34:56 AM
Well... he's right.  Dictatorship is, indeed, the most efficient form of government.  Any other situation is inherently more difficult.

Sucks to be him.
 
2013-08-14 10:40:08 AM
"and that is complicated by a rise of sectarianism and religious extremism that is prepared to employ violent means to impose on other people a way of thinking and a way of living that is completely contrary to everything the United States of America has ever stood for.

But enough about the Teabaggers.
 
2013-08-14 10:40:36 AM
Great use of the ellipsis there by CNS. Classic.
 
2013-08-14 10:46:23 AM
Wingnut Wednesday™
 
2013-08-14 10:48:57 AM
Al Gore - Freedom Fighter!
 
2013-08-14 10:49:37 AM
John Kerry: "I'm a student of history, and I love... dictators and ... to employ violent means to impose on other people a way of thinking... on behalf of President Obama."
 
2013-08-14 10:52:08 AM
Did no one read TFA and realize he said this in a positive way? He thinks its a good thing.
 
2013-08-14 11:04:24 AM

DamnYankees: Did no one read TFA and realize he said this in a positive way? He thinks its a good thing.


When did we have to start reading the articles?
 
2013-08-14 11:06:02 AM
www.jasonbennion.com

He's all up in your tubes.
 
2013-08-14 11:18:39 AM

R.A.Danny: sheep


DRINK!
 
2013-08-14 11:18:57 AM
It has not become any harder to find common ground and interests since the advent of the Internet. All that the Internet has done is expose how hard it really is to find these things.
 
2013-08-14 11:22:19 AM
It's not the internet per se, but the radical shift to individualism that we've seen in the last 40 years. When I was Born, people lived in Families (happy or unhappy) and communities. Most people integrated into new communities when moving (at least my parents did). People belonged to churches, unions, business clubs, or PTAs. There were 3-7 channels on the TV, radio was a critical, local source of entertainment, and Movies were available either on the big screen or on that late-late show.
 
2013-08-14 11:28:29 AM
He's a graceful motherfarker.
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2013-08-14 11:36:32 AM

shanrick: DamnYankees: Did no one read TFA and realize he said this in a positive way? He thinks its a good thing.

When did we have to start reading the articles?


There are articles?
 
2013-08-14 11:36:41 AM
Dave Barry has this dude down cold:

"In conclusion, I want to extend my sincere best wishes to all of my opponents, Republican and Democrat, and to state that, in the unlikely event I am not elected, I will support whoever is, even if it is Senator John Kerry, who once came, with his entourage, into a ski-rental shop in Ketchum, Idaho, where I was waiting patiently with my family to rent snowboards, and Senator Kerry used one of his lackeys to flagrantly barge in line ahead of us and everybody else, as if he had some urgent senatorial NEED for a snowboard, like there was about to be an emergency meeting, out on the slopes, of the Joint Halfpipe Committee. I say it's time for us, as a nation, to put this unpleasant incident behind us. I know that I, for one, have forgotten all about it. That is how fair and balanced I am."
 
2013-08-14 11:39:46 AM
Yes, you poor widdle things. That mean ol' gubmint is opwessing you sooo much!!! Still, I'm surprised you're allowed internet access from your FEMA trailers.
 
2013-08-14 11:40:35 AM

DamnYankees: Did no one read TFA and realize he said this in a positive way? He thinks its a good thing.


I don't think he was explicitly saying it was a good or bad thing, but that this is the world we live in now. His statements before the quoted stuff from the article were:

We are making a difference every day in the relationships between countries, the relationship between peoples, and the aspirations and opportunities that people will have somewhere in the world. That's a great adventure. It's also a well-spent life. It's a way to do things where you can say there's a real reward to risk factor, and you know you're contributing to something bigger than yourself. We are dealing in the most complicated world ever, and I mean ever.

This meeting was with staff and their families at the embassy in Brazil, and he was thanking them for their work and dedication in an ever-more-complicated world. Recognizing what makes it complicated doesn't have to be tinged with personal opinions.

But yea, anyone thinking he's cursing the internet is wrong.
 
2013-08-14 11:43:16 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Access to foreign media sources is a real buzz kill for the US government.



the secret (from us citizens)  bombings of cambodia would have been impossible
 
2013-08-14 11:44:21 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: He's a graceful motherfarker.
[ravensredzone.com image 293x410]


www.dumbocratquotes.com
Indeed
 
2013-08-14 11:50:10 AM
FTFA: "[sectarianism/extremism] is  prepared to employ violent means to impose on other people a way of thinking and a way of living that is completely contrary to everything the United States of America has ever stood for."

Right. The U.S. is completely, totally non-violent when imposing.
 
2013-08-14 11:59:43 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: I fail to see the problem here Johnny Boy.


Informed citizen (subjects) don't fall for the BS the way they used to.
 
2013-08-14 12:00:42 PM
You mean there is stuff on the internet other
than FARK and porn?

Is he talking about Amazon maybe?
 
2013-08-14 12:03:18 PM
Why the long face?
 
2013-08-14 12:07:23 PM

DamnYankees: Did no one read TFA and realize he said this in a positive way? He thinks its a good thing.


This is clearly commentary on the ability of governments to "control the narrative"; as in it makes his job harder.  I'd say his perspective is neutral, if accurate as well.
 
2013-08-14 12:16:01 PM

SpectroBoy: You mean there is stuff on the internet other
than FARK and porn?

Is he talking about Amazon maybe?


I dunno. Let's Ask Jeeves.

cdn0.mos.techradar.futurecdn.net
 
2013-08-14 12:17:43 PM
"Well, folks," he said, "ever since the end of the Cold War, forces have been unleashed that were tamped down for centuries by dictators, and that was complicated further by this little thing called the internet and the ability of people everywhere to communicate instantaneously and to have more information coming at them in one day than most people can process in months or a year"


He has a problem with informed citizens that communicate? Fark you John Kerry.
 
2013-08-14 12:18:13 PM

JerseyTim: Great use of the ellipsis there by CNS. Classic.


"I wouldn't trust CNS with my laundry, even if my life depended on it!"

"I...trust...CNS...with...my life!"
 
2013-08-14 12:22:09 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: I fail to see the problem here Johnny Boy.


The problem isn't that people are more informed. It's that many of them are more infromed.
 
2013-08-14 12:50:50 PM
Well, folks, ever since the end of the Cold War, forces have been unleashed that were tamped down for centuries by dictators, and that was complicated further by this little thing called the internet and the ability of people everywhere to communicate instantaneously and to have more information coming at them in one day than most people can process in months or a year.

BOY THAT JOHN KERRY AND HIS LOVE OF DICTATORS AND HATRED OF THE INTERNET

Jesus Christ, you guys. I was all set to be annoyed at John Kerry, too.
 
2013-08-14 12:59:03 PM

Z-clipped: Dancin_In_Anson: I fail to see the problem here Johnny Boy.

The problem isn't that people are more informed. It's that many of them are more infromed.


Don't disturb DIA; he's the perfect example of the low-info voter.
 
2013-08-14 01:11:14 PM
Here's the thing John, the government exists to serve the people.  Not the other way around.
 
2013-08-14 01:20:56 PM

paygun: Here's the thing John, the government exists to serve the people.  Not the other way around.


So sorry, John, that progress makes your job harder.
 
2013-08-14 01:23:50 PM
"john kerry internet" finds this 'story' being 'reported' on in this manner from CNS News, Prison Planet and some site called "Before It's News".

Seems legit.
 
2013-08-14 01:31:44 PM

GoldSpider: paygun: Here's the thing John, the government exists to serve the people.  Not the other way around.

So sorry, John, that progress makes your job harder.


So wait, are you mad at him or not? You just said, "I'd say his perspective is neutral, if accurate as well."
 
2013-08-14 01:35:17 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Don't disturb DIA; he's the perfect example of the low-info voter.


I would consider that an aspirational view, considering his prior posts on virtually every subject....
 
2013-08-14 02:00:17 PM
imageshack.us
 
2013-08-14 02:21:42 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: He's a graceful motherfarker.
[ravensredzone.com image 293x410]


Even less so than Crazy Uncle Joe (image too big).
 
2013-08-14 02:38:25 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Don't disturb DIA; he's the perfect example of the low-info voter.


Says a guy who voted for Obama*...twice.

*and probably votes straight ticket
 
2013-08-14 03:17:33 PM

EyeballKid: Yes, you poor widdle things. That mean ol' gubmint is opwessing you sooo much!!! Still, I'm surprised you're allowed internet access from your FEMA trailers.


If you have nothing to hide, why worry?! Why, if only there was more monitoring we wouldn't have people doing marijuana and killing others with their second hand dope smoke and getting people who speed recklessly at 26 mph.
 
2013-08-14 04:52:09 PM

GoldSpider: DamnYankees: Did no one read TFA and realize he said this in a positive way? He thinks its a good thing.

This is clearly commentary on the ability of governments to "control the narrative"; as in it makes his job harder.  I'd say his perspective is neutral, if accurate as well.


I dunno bout that.

"harder to govern"??

that's loaded, he needs to unpack that
 
2013-08-14 05:18:54 PM

Elandriel: Oh, boo-frickedy-hoo you little baby.  Adapt or be left behind.  The internet has given the people a voice, even if a lot of extremely crazy people use that voice to promote extremely crazy shiat.

Wha I expect he meant was the internet has made it harder to control.  Govern, maybe, but control, definitely.  And it's only going to get worse for the highest echelon, who until recently has been used to near universal media and message control.

/Tinfoil side note: I expect this is what 'net neutrality' is really about; not some idiotic ala-carte service to "promote market competition" or whatever, but as a means to suppress dissent and free speech by using ISP-corporations to marginalize the outlets


My take is that he thinks the internet makes it harder to control the flow of information, and when people can communicate freely, then they start to ask awkward questions, analyze what they're told, start fact checking, and form groups that take action. That's what "difficult to govern" seems to mean to him.
 
2013-08-14 05:27:08 PM

jjorsett: My take is that he thinks the internet makes it harder to control the flow of information, and when people can communicate freely, then they start to ask awkward questions, analyze what they're told, start fact checking, and form groups that take action. That's what "difficult to govern" seems to mean to him.


Yeah I did this crazy thing called "RTFA" after I subjected you all to my mental vomit and realized his comments were more in support of the internet and its impact rather than the opposite. Derp.
 
2013-08-14 06:32:51 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Access to foreign media sources is a real buzz kill for the US government.


That's the main problem right there. Americans tuning into the CBC and BBC must think they're watching the news from Mars.
 
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