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2013-08-14 10:46:13 AM  
Most of the libraries around here have an amazingly large selection, if it weren't for torrent I'd more than likely supplement my viewing habits with borrowing from there.

My son on the other hand, its harder to find stuff online and Netflix so we go there religiously for him
 
2013-08-14 10:46:45 AM  
My library's really good about this. Just fill out the form, and hey, presto. That's how I'm watching Black Books, A Bit of Fry & Laurie, etc.
 
2013-08-14 10:49:41 AM  

PizzaJedi81: Black Books


After seeing the IT Crowd I was mightly disappointed that this wasn;t funnier.
 
2013-08-14 10:51:40 AM  
Wait until this guy hears about that new fangled bittorrent tech...

/ also everything at the library is going to be SD/480p at best since its DVD (or worse) quality
 
2013-08-14 10:57:14 AM  

Elzar: Wait until this guy hears about that new fangled bittorrent tech...

/ also everything at the library is going to be SD/480p at best since its DVD (or worse) quality


Not everyone is a thief like you.

Now back to my .epub files on my Kindle.
 
2013-08-14 10:59:32 AM  

Elzar: Wait until this guy hears about that new fangled bittorrent tech...

/ also everything at the library is going to be SD/480p at best since its DVD (or worse) quality


There's this new fangled tech called "Blu Ray" that most libraries carry too.
 
2013-08-14 11:12:31 AM  
Libraries have done a good job with offering videos people want.  Proud of us for once.
 
2013-08-14 11:19:45 AM  
If you can't afford $7.99/month you have made poor life choices. Hell, some people prob spend more than that on gas going to and from the closest library every month.

Still not gonna pay $5/month for more snark and boobie threads though.
 
2013-08-14 11:33:54 AM  
"If you can still find one?"

They didn't knock them all over with the advent of the internet, Illiteratubby.
 
2013-08-14 11:39:46 AM  
Of his entire list, I've only seen The Hobbit
 
2013-08-14 11:41:07 AM  
My library gets movies and TV shows as soon as they come out on DVD or Blu-ray. They pre-order and receive them a couple of days before the official release date so they can be added to the collection on the same date they become available elsewhere. I can search the entire county system (15 suburban libraries included) online, put a hold on what I want, and pick it up at the most convenient library regardless of which library's collection it came from. If I want to browse and just find something interesting to watch, I head for the convenient one.

I love my library! I check out paper books, audiobooks, DVD's, CD's, and download ebooks for my Nook.
 
2013-08-14 11:43:30 AM  

catmandu: My library gets movies and TV shows as soon as they come out on DVD or Blu-ray. They pre-order and receive them a couple of days before the official release date so they can be added to the collection on the same date they become available elsewhere. I can search the entire county system (15 suburban libraries included) online, put a hold on what I want, and pick it up at the most convenient library regardless of which library's collection it came from. If I want to browse and just find something interesting to watch, I head for the convenient one.

I love my library! I check out paper books, audiobooks, DVD's, CD's, and download ebooks for my Nook.


I miss living in a city with multiple libraries. Currently, I live in a county, with two...and I can't search the other library or request a book from there.
 
2013-08-14 12:01:53 PM  
It sounds so much more convenient to drive to the library, rather than just pull it up on my SmartTV...

Plus, given my habitual procrastination I'd probably end up paying far more in late fees than I would for netflix...
 
2013-08-14 12:07:01 PM  
My local library is in the same 10-min walk radius from where I live as my bank, the post office and the grocery store.  (Yay, walkability!)  I ditched Netflix this past spring and have been enjoying way more movies free from the library compared to when I was streaming them.
 
2013-08-14 12:17:17 PM  
I don't rent movies from my local library, but I borrow at least three e-books a week from there. The advent of e-books got me reading again. Prior to e-books, I hadn't read much since college; I majored in English and was completely burnt for a few years after graduating.
 
2013-08-14 12:24:44 PM  
My one criticism of my local library's video collection:  Too many selections that were clearly picked by the librarians and ordered based on a Library Journal suggestion.

But they do have Kids in the Hall which is awesome.
 
2013-08-14 12:29:38 PM  
What's the "SAD" tag all about?

My kids use the library all of the time, and like the others say, they have a great selection. Hell, they have the entire 20-disc Monty Python's Flying Circus collection...
 
2013-08-14 12:33:50 PM  
I also go to the library here in PHX. Phxlib, they have movies, tv shows, tons of other stuff, cds, yada yada, and you can reserve stuff online and have it shipped to the closet Phoenix library for pick up.

Watching the Sopranos now ...

The only drawback is people cant watch FARKING DVDS without scratching them!
 
2013-08-14 12:38:20 PM  
"...if while you can still find one" Fixed That For You, subby.
One of the things I like is to get a movie I've never heard of. Sometimes it's MEH!, but have found some interesting movies @ library.
 
2013-08-14 12:43:48 PM  
My library has a pretty good selection of DVDs. Too bad almost everything in it is scratched.
 
2013-08-14 12:44:08 PM  

Gunny Highway: Libraries have done a good job with offering videos people want.  Proud of us for once.


Wait, you work in a library in Massachusetts?

I also work closely with the library industry in Massachusetts...
 
2013-08-14 12:47:39 PM  
I'm not knocking libraries and their selection. Free is free and I've rented a few library movies. But the Netflix DVD/streaming plan is $25/month. That's cheaper than the cost of two people going out to the movies and buying concession food. The streaming plan is $8/month and the selection on streaming is only getting better. I've seen a lot of first rate movies from the last few years on Netflix streaming. I understand saving money, but really $8 really should be a strain on the monthly budget. That's a cheaper deal than any cable plan you could pay for.
 
2013-08-14 12:54:05 PM  

JuicePats: Gunny Highway: Libraries have done a good job with offering videos people want.  Proud of us for once.

Wait, you work in a library in Massachusetts?

I also work closely with the library industry in Massachusetts...


I do, I do.  I work for a law library.  Getting as much experience as possible and then moving over to public, I hope.
 
2013-08-14 01:03:46 PM  
My library charges $1.50 per DVD for Rental.
 
2013-08-14 01:04:45 PM  

kevinatilusa: My library charges $1.50 per DVD for Rental.


Have you asked why?
 
2013-08-14 01:09:57 PM  

Gunny Highway: kevinatilusa: My library charges $1.50 per DVD for Rental.

Have you asked why?


Right. Lilke my charges that for newer releases. I mean, you want to see Gi Joe Retaliation, you're going to pay.

You want to see GI Joe the Rise of Cobra, that's free.

/why you would want to see either, as they suck, is beyond me
 
2013-08-14 01:12:20 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Gunny Highway: kevinatilusa: My library charges $1.50 per DVD for Rental.

Have you asked why?

Right. Lilke my charges that for newer releases. I mean, you want to see Gi Joe Retaliation, you're going to pay.

You want to see GI Joe the Rise of Cobra, that's free.

/why you would want to see either, as they suck, is beyond me


Hmm...it doesnt say anything about it on their website (looked at the location in the guy's profile).

Makes sense, I guess.  Works as a way to make a little extra cash.  This library system doesnt seem like it is hurting for money so this must be a standard practice.

Thank you for the info, Farkers.
 
2013-08-14 01:15:50 PM  
The Good:
* 4 good sized library systems in my area (though for simplicity I've only be dealing with one for a while).
* The one I use has a nice smartphone app, lets me do everything from there
* When a hold is in, I get an email, walk in, grab it off the shelf, check out at an automated kiosk, and go - easier than redbox

The Bad:
* Put a hold on Warm Bodies DVD the end of June, as of now still 183 in queue.  Popular titles will take a while..
 
2013-08-14 01:17:23 PM  

ReverendLoki: The Good:
* 4 good sized library systems in my area (though for simplicity I've only be dealing with one for a while).
* The one I use has a nice smartphone app, lets me do everything from there
* When a hold is in, I get an email, walk in, grab it off the shelf, check out at an automated kiosk, and go - easier than redbox

The Bad:
* Put a hold on Warm Bodies DVD the end of June, as of now still 183 in queue.  Popular titles will take a while..


Good thing there is a ton of other stuff to hold you over?
 
2013-08-14 01:18:50 PM  
It won't be long before Netflix is producing summer blockbusters on par with the major studios. Amazon and Apple will also start producing their own original content as well. There won't be any compelling reasons for the new players to avail their content to libraries, or in any physical format at all, really.
 
2013-08-14 01:28:55 PM  

Gunny Highway: My one criticism of my local library's video collection:  Too many selections that were clearly picked by the librarians and ordered based on a Library Journal suggestion.

But they do have Kids in the Hall which is awesome.


I'm convinced that my librarians are serious fans of horror.  I'm yet to look for something of the genre and NOT find it on their shelves.

Oh, and they have a ton of MST3K.
 
2013-08-14 01:29:04 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: It won't be long before Netflix is producing summer blockbusters on par with the major studios. Amazon and Apple will also start producing their own original content as well. There won't be any compelling reasons for the new players to avail their content to libraries, or in any physical format at all, really.


People have predicted that microfilm, computers, VHS, CDs, DVDs, the internet, eBooks, etc. would mean the death of the public library.  They are still here.  Every new media format presents different challenges concerning their circulation and availability.   It is up to the libraries figure out where they fit in and how they can make content available most easily to their communities.
 
2013-08-14 01:31:32 PM  

Skarekrough: Gunny Highway: My one criticism of my local library's video collection:  Too many selections that were clearly picked by the librarians and ordered based on a Library Journal suggestion.

But they do have Kids in the Hall which is awesome.

I'm convinced that my librarians are serious fans of horror.  I'm yet to look for something of the genre and NOT find it on their shelves.

Oh, and they have a ton of MST3K.


That is awesome.  I like when libraries have "special collections."
 
2013-08-14 01:37:43 PM  

Gunny Highway: thismomentinblackhistory: It won't be long before Netflix is producing summer blockbusters on par with the major studios. Amazon and Apple will also start producing their own original content as well. There won't be any compelling reasons for the new players to avail their content to libraries, or in any physical format at all, really.

People have predicted that microfilm, computers, VHS, CDs, DVDs, the internet, eBooks, etc. would mean the death of the public library.  They are still here.  Every new media format presents different challenges concerning their circulation and availability.   It is up to the libraries figure out where they fit in and how they can make content available most easily to their communities.


The library will never go away, but it won't be able to offer exclusive online content that will become the cornerstone of subscribing to the likes of Netflix. That's all.
 
2013-08-14 01:46:27 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Gunny Highway: thismomentinblackhistory: It won't be long before Netflix is producing summer blockbusters on par with the major studios. Amazon and Apple will also start producing their own original content as well. There won't be any compelling reasons for the new players to avail their content to libraries, or in any physical format at all, really.

People have predicted that microfilm, computers, VHS, CDs, DVDs, the internet, eBooks, etc. would mean the death of the public library.  They are still here.  Every new media format presents different challenges concerning their circulation and availability.   It is up to the libraries figure out where they fit in and how they can make content available most easily to their communities.

The library will never go away, but it won't be able to offer exclusive online content that will become the cornerstone of subscribing to the likes of Netflix. That's all.


Should be interesting to see.  I will most certainly keep my eye on it.
 
2013-08-14 01:46:54 PM  

ReverendLoki: The Bad:
* Put a hold on Warm Bodies DVD the end of June, as of now still 183 in queue. Popular titles will take a while..


Don't bother, its a pretty bad movie and everyone involved should feel bad for making it
 
2013-08-14 01:57:50 PM  
FTFA: "I don't have Netflix or any other streaming service, and haven't missed it. "

I bet he doesn't even own a device compatible with streaming. Probably even steers conversations towards streaming services jsut so he can say he doesn't even have a device capable of streaming.
 
2013-08-14 02:00:56 PM  

AiryAnne: FTFA: "I don't have Netflix or any other streaming service, and haven't missed it. "

I bet he doesn't even own a device compatible with streaming. Probably even steers conversations towards streaming services jsut so he can say he doesn't even have a device capable of streaming.


Then he talks about having to be at the gym in 26 minutes.
 
2013-08-14 02:07:28 PM  
My current library has a very nice selection.  Newer releases (6 months or so) are available as 2 day rentals.  Older movies are 7 days.  I will probably pick up Beautiful Creatures next time I'm there.

I have a pretty good relationship with my librarians.  Not looking forward to breaking in a new group when I move in a couple weeks.
 
2013-08-14 02:14:17 PM  

Gunny Highway: thismomentinblackhistory: Gunny Highway: thismomentinblackhistory: It won't be long before Netflix is producing summer blockbusters on par with the major studios. Amazon and Apple will also start producing their own original content as well. There won't be any compelling reasons for the new players to avail their content to libraries, or in any physical format at all, really.

People have predicted that microfilm, computers, VHS, CDs, DVDs, the internet, eBooks, etc. would mean the death of the public library.  They are still here.  Every new media format presents different challenges concerning their circulation and availability.   It is up to the libraries figure out where they fit in and how they can make content available most easily to their communities.

The library will never go away, but it won't be able to offer exclusive online content that will become the cornerstone of subscribing to the likes of Netflix. That's all.

Should be interesting to see.  I will most certainly keep my eye on it.


It's interesting to me that Netflix decided to release original content as entire seasons of television shows (House of Cards, Orange is the New Black, etc). The advent of DVDs certainly created a demand for entire seasons so that episodes could be consumed one after the other. Consumers also let shows stack-up on DVRs so they can watch them successively. With a month-to-month subscription service, Netflix very well could have released one episode per week, or split the series that it produces to be released over the course of two months to keep people subscribed (or to generate new business as popularity and word spreads), but they didn't. They're playing the long game.

While you can buy (or borrow from the library) House of Cards, I could foresee that going away as other big players enter the game. If Apple, for instance, produces a show and only offers it through iTunes, how would that get to a library? Would Netflix stop selling DVD versions or their original content if Amazon offered original programming only through streaming? Are there going to be a dozen walled gardens?
 
2013-08-14 02:17:25 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: My current library has a very nice selection.  Newer releases (6 months or so) are available as 2 day rentals.  Older movies are 7 days.  I will probably pick up Beautiful Creatures next time I'm there.

I have a pretty good relationship with my librarians.  Not looking forward to breaking in a new group when I move in a couple weeks.


How do you like the 2-day rentals?  Our library has thought about moving to a shorter window (we do 7-days on everything).  What kind of fines do they have for the new releases?
 
2013-08-14 02:17:41 PM  
You go on with your bad self, Michael Barrett. Show "the man" that you're not going to bend over and take what corporate America is trying to force upon you. Eight dollars a month for access to a library of thousands of movies and tens of thousands of TV episodes; available on-demand and many of which are in HD? BREAK FREE, BROTHER!
 
2013-08-14 02:18:02 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: While you can buy (or borrow from the library) House of Cards, I could foresee that going away as other big players enter the game. If Apple, for instance, produces a show and only offers it through iTunes, how would that get to a library? Would Netflix stop selling DVD versions or their original content if Amazon offered original programming only through streaming? Are there going to be a dozen walled gardens?


This is a huge questions and librarians are generally pretty bad at vendor relations and looking down the road.  This is something I may bring up at a conference or send into a listserv because it needs to be addressed.  Thanks! (People may already be talking but I havent seen anything).

thismomentinblackhistory: It's interesting to me that Netflix decided to release original content as entire seasons of television shows (House of Cards, Orange is the New Black, etc). The advent of DVDs certainly created a demand for entire seasons so that episodes could be consumed one after the other. Consumers also let shows stack-up on DVRs so they can watch them successively. With a month-to-month subscription service, Netflix very well could have released one episode per week, or split the series that it produces to be released over the course of two months to keep people subscribed (or to generate new business as popularity and word spreads), but they didn't. They're playing the long game.


If this brings about an a la carte cable package, I will be eternally grateful.
 
2013-08-14 02:21:59 PM  

Fireproof: My library has a pretty good selection of DVDs. Too bad almost everything in it is scratched.


bruce4bruce: The only drawback is people cant watch FARKING DVDS without scratching them!


What's up with that?  I'd say about 60% of the DVDs in my library are scratched, maybe 25% so badly damaged that they are unplayable.

My solution - put holds on new releases.  If I am the first to watch a DVD, at least two patrons get to see it.
 
2013-08-14 02:24:47 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Fireproof: My library has a pretty good selection of DVDs. Too bad almost everything in it is scratched.

bruce4bruce: The only drawback is people cant watch FARKING DVDS without scratching them!

What's up with that?  I'd say about 60% of the DVDs in my library are scratched, maybe 25% so badly damaged that they are unplayable.

My solution - put holds on new releases.  If I am the first to watch a DVD, at least two patrons get to see it.


I wonder what people do with the items they borrow sometimes.  How do you get blood all over a book, not notice, and return it?
 
2013-08-14 02:29:29 PM  
thismomentinblackhistory:

Don't you have a politics tab to troll or something?
 
2013-08-14 02:29:56 PM  
$7.99/month is a small price to pay for my extreme laziness.
 
2013-08-14 02:30:03 PM  

Gunny Highway: AliceBToklasLives: Fireproof: My library has a pretty good selection of DVDs. Too bad almost everything in it is scratched.

bruce4bruce: The only drawback is people cant watch FARKING DVDS without scratching them!

What's up with that?  I'd say about 60% of the DVDs in my library are scratched, maybe 25% so badly damaged that they are unplayable.

My solution - put holds on new releases.  If I am the first to watch a DVD, at least two patrons get to see it.

I wonder what people do with the items they borrow sometimes.  How do you get blood all over a book, not notice, and return it?


Many people barely take care of what they own, no way in hell are you going to get them to take care of something they don't own. Just look around at any "public" resource, it's almost like people feel an obligation to damage shiat that isn't theirs.
 
2013-08-14 02:32:09 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Fireproof: My library has a pretty good selection of DVDs. Too bad almost everything in it is scratched.

bruce4bruce: The only drawback is people cant watch FARKING DVDS without scratching them!

What's up with that?  I'd say about 60% of the DVDs in my library are scratched, maybe 25% so badly damaged that they are unplayable.

My solution - put holds on new releases.  If I am the first to watch a DVD, at least two patrons get to see it.


Think about how poorly the average person treats their stuff.  Now think about how poorly the average person treats strangers' stuff.  Now realize that half the population treats strangers' stuff worse than that.  It's a problem we struggle with constantly.  We're currently backlogged a good 3-4 months on resurfacing our DVDs because so many get scratched and we just don't have the time to resurface them all as they come back.
 
2013-08-14 02:32:37 PM  
My library has a very good selection of movies and TV Shows (including Sopranos, Simpsons, Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men, etc). 3 movies out at a time for a week.

Also good cd collection.

/oh yea, they have books, too
 
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