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2013-08-14 09:33:52 AM
Of course Cruz is a US citizen.  But I sure hope that the Dems everyone has some fun with it.
 
2013-08-14 09:36:15 AM

IntertubeUser: Of course Cruz is a US citizen.  But I sure hope that the Dems everyone has some fun with it.


I eagerly await the opportunity to see Teabaggers and Birfers twist their brains into  Calabi-Yau shapes attempting to explain why this is totally different.
 
2013-08-14 09:54:52 AM

Diogenes: IntertubeUser: Of course Cruz is a US citizen.  But I sure hope that the Dems everyone has some fun with it.

I eagerly await the opportunity to see Teabaggers and Birfers twist their brains into  Calabi-Yau shapes attempting to explain why this is totally different.


Those two groups may just tell you that Canada is part of America so it counts.
 
2013-08-14 10:12:24 AM
I wonder if he has dual citizenship.  If so, that would be even more fun.
 
2013-08-14 10:14:30 AM

Diogenes: I eagerly await the opportunity to see Teabaggers and Birfers twist their brains into Calabi-Yau shapes attempting to explain why this is totally different.


They won't even bother. They simply will not acknowledge the billions of tons of shiat they flung into the air over Obama's birthplace for the last 6 years. And if you say anything about it, they will not hear it.
 
2013-08-14 10:25:37 AM
Fair's fair.
 
2013-08-14 10:27:13 AM

BunkoSquad: Diogenes: I eagerly await the opportunity to see Teabaggers and Birfers twist their brains into Calabi-Yau shapes attempting to explain why this is totally different.

They won't even bother. They simply will not acknowledge the billions of tons of shiat they flung into the air over Obama's birthplace for the last 6 years. And if you say anything about it, they will not hear it.


The Bubble is rather versatile, isn't it?
 
2013-08-14 10:32:46 AM

BunkoSquad: Diogenes: I eagerly await the opportunity to see Teabaggers and Birfers twist their brains into Calabi-Yau shapes attempting to explain why this is totally different.

They won't even bother. They simply will not acknowledge the billions of tons of shiat they flung into the air over Obama's birthplace for the last 6 years. And if you say anything about it, they will not hear it.


Some "birthers" actually are sufficiently intellectually consistent to claim Senator Cruz not to be a "natural born" United States citizen.

/They still are mentally incompetent, however.
 
2013-08-14 10:37:18 AM

Relatively Obscure: Those two groups may just tell you that Canada is part of America so it counts.


It's not?

Why didn't I get the email?
 
2013-08-14 10:41:10 AM
i236.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-14 10:50:09 AM
 I heard somebody told me he was born in Canada.

Does this mean that someone told Trump that Cruz was born in Canada,  but he forgot, so someone else had to tell him that that first guy already told him?
 
2013-08-14 10:51:05 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: [i236.photobucket.com image 800x512]


Not that I don't appreciate the effort, but to complete the effect shouldn't the height and weight be in SI?
 
2013-08-14 10:53:10 AM

IntertubeUser: Of course Cruz is a US citizen.  But I sure hope that the Dems everyone has some fun with it.


No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

unless ted was born before 1787, he's not a "natural born citizen."
 
2013-08-14 10:56:06 AM
I said this in the redlit thread: Ted Cruz will never be POTUS, so it doesn't matter. He won't even win his party's nomination.
 
2013-08-14 10:56:18 AM
WHAR BIRF CERTIFCAT EH?
 
2013-08-14 10:58:35 AM

Relatively Obscure: Diogenes: IntertubeUser: Of course Cruz is a US citizen.  But I sure hope that the Dems everyone has some fun with it.

I eagerly await the opportunity to see Teabaggers and Birfers twist their brains into  Calabi-Yau shapes attempting to explain why this is totally different.

Those two groups may just tell you that Canada is part of America so it counts.


Yep.  That means he can't be a sekret muslin.
 
2013-08-14 10:59:03 AM
Can Ted Cruz run for president?

konaskorner.com
Yeah, yeah, but your journalists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.
 
2013-08-14 11:13:19 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: [i236.photobucket.com image 800x512]


yeah, needs more metric system.

also, do Canadians really say 'As All Hell'?

sounds pretty american.
 
2013-08-14 11:14:45 AM
Ted Cruz is a white Republican. The baggers are not going to have an issue with this. This was always about Obama being BLACK.

www.pleasegodno.com
 
2013-08-14 11:16:25 AM
WE GET IT. HE'S WHITE.
 
2013-08-14 11:17:55 AM
The only interpretation of the Constitution under which Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen and is eligible for the presidency is the interpretation that Ted Cruz says he believes is true.
 
2013-08-14 11:18:36 AM
Trump is just waiting to take out Cruz with his new and advanced WharBirfCertificateWhar Operation and then advance to meet Hillary in BenghaziDome.
 
2013-08-14 11:19:33 AM

IntertubeUser: Of course Cruz is a US citizen.  But I sure hope that the Dems everyone has some fun with it.


Yes, this.  But that guy's an asshole so I'd like see him go thru the wringer ..
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-14 11:26:22 AM
I am more concerned about what happened to his face.

I know, I say this on every Ted Cruz thread, but there is SOMETHING wrong with his face!
 
2013-08-14 11:26:39 AM
I did overhear the guys from "Triumph" say they're learning to play "Hail to the Chief" while they were making my double-double and cruller this morning.
 
2013-08-14 11:26:49 AM
Being born outside the US doesn't automatically disqualify you from being President.  It all depends on what the status of your parents were at the time of your birth.  As long as at least one of your parents is a citizen that has spent a certain amount of time in the US before you were born, then you are good to go.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-14 11:27:59 AM

Cataholic: Being born outside the US doesn't automatically disqualify you from being President.  It all depends on what the status of your parents were at the time of your birth.  As long as at least one of your parents is a citizen that has spent a certain amount of time in the US before you were born, then you are good to go.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-14 11:29:24 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder if he has dual citizenship.  If so, that would be even more fun.


He should be entitled to Canadian citizenship by birth I guess. Even if he has renounced the Canadian citizenship,  at some point in his life he was Canadian too (I wonder how long ago was that and I demand to personally see the long form document showing that). Will being Canadian (even for one day) disqualify him?
 
2013-08-14 11:30:01 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAR BIRF CERTIFCAT EH?


The adobe copy Cruz released is fake.  I can tell because my Adobe expert examined the layers.

Besides, isn't he a bit brown?  Were either of his parents illegal?  Does he even know if that crazy pastor is his real father?

I'm just asking questions.
 
2013-08-14 11:30:10 AM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: [i236.photobucket.com image 800x512]


Ok, that is gold...
 
2013-08-14 11:31:15 AM
Who cares where he was born.   His father fought for Castro.

I am not making that up.  So if Obama's father automatically makes him a secular, socialist, Kenyan, muslin whatever, what the hell does that make Cruz?

Oh, that's right.  Mr. Cruz "didn't know Castro was a communist."  Pretty dumb farking revolutionary if you ask me.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-14 11:32:29 AM

Jairzinho: Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder if he has dual citizenship.  If so, that would be even more fun.

He should be entitled to Canadian citizenship by birth I guess. Even if he has renounced the Canadian citizenship,  at some point in his life he was Canadian too (I wonder how long ago was that and I demand to personally see the long form document showing that). Will being Canadian (even for one day) disqualify him?


I don't thinks so because IIRC U.S. law doesn't recognize dual citizenship... so I doubt it would matter, though IANAL.
 
2013-08-14 11:33:45 AM
He wasn't born in Canada you libs just like to spread misinformation, especially on this left wing lib site http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=C001098
 
2013-08-14 11:34:26 AM

Cataholic: Being born outside the US doesn't automatically disqualify you from being President.  It all depends on what the status of your parents were at the time of your birth.  As long as at least one of your parents is a citizen that has spent a certain amount of time in the US before you were born, then you are good to go.


Spoken like someone who believes they've written and signed the US Constitution.  Unfortunately, it's not quite as simple as you've presented it.  Everyone is now wrestling with the "Natural Born Citizen" part.  Was he born here?  No.  Shouldn't that disqualify him?  Dunno.
 
2013-08-14 11:34:59 AM

SisterMaryElephant: MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAR BIRF CERTIFCAT EH?

The adobe copy Cruz released is fake.  I can tell because my Adobe expert examined the layers.

Besides, isn't he a bit brown?  Were either of his parents illegal?  Does he even know if that crazy pastor is his real father?

I'm just asking questions.


That's kind of interesting.  What if someone's citizenship status was because of their father and it turned out NOT to be their father after all?  Not saying this applies to Cruz, but how would that work?  Does citizenship go through who fathered a person, claimed a person, or raised a person?  Does it go away if something is proven later?  Does it RETROACTIVELY go away?  Or was it there, and then not?  whoa.
 
2013-08-14 11:35:01 AM

d23: Jairzinho: Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder if he has dual citizenship.  If so, that would be even more fun.

He should be entitled to Canadian citizenship by birth I guess. Even if he has renounced the Canadian citizenship,  at some point in his life he was Canadian too (I wonder how long ago was that and I demand to personally see the long form document showing that). Will being Canadian (even for one day) disqualify him?

I don't thinks so because IIRC U.S. law doesn't recognize dual citizenship... so I doubt it would matter, though IANAL.


Many "birthers" claim that dual citizenship at birth disqualifies an individual from being considered a "natural born" United States citizen. To support this argument, they have cited the legal ruling of Jack v. Shiat.
 
2013-08-14 11:35:24 AM

Cataholic: Being born outside the US doesn't automatically disqualify you from being President.  It all depends on what the status of your parents were at the time of your birth.  As long as at least one of your parents is a citizen that has spent a certain amount of time in the US before you were born, then you are good to go.


Tell that to Sheriff Joe and "The Donald" tm Trump
 
2013-08-14 11:35:24 AM

Diogenes: So if Obama's father automatically makes him a secular, socialist, Kenyan, muslin whatever, what the hell does that make Cruz?


If he becomes the nominee, it makes him the guardian of America's sacred conservative principles and philosophical heir to Reagan and Jesus.
If he becomes the nominee and loses, it means he was a RINO who failed conservatism.

We've seen this damn movie before.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-14 11:36:24 AM

Dimensio: d23: Jairzinho: Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder if he has dual citizenship.  If so, that would be even more fun.

He should be entitled to Canadian citizenship by birth I guess. Even if he has renounced the Canadian citizenship,  at some point in his life he was Canadian too (I wonder how long ago was that and I demand to personally see the long form document showing that). Will being Canadian (even for one day) disqualify him?

I don't thinks so because IIRC U.S. law doesn't recognize dual citizenship... so I doubt it would matter, though IANAL.

Many "birthers" claim that dual citizenship at birth disqualifies an individual from being considered a "natural born" United States citizen. To support this argument, they have cited the legal ruling of Jack v. Shiat.


Yup yup yup.  You want to go further down the rabbit hole... start claiming someone isn't "natural born" because they were C-section babies.  It makes just as much sense.
 
2013-08-14 11:36:46 AM

Dimensio: d23: Jairzinho: Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder if he has dual citizenship.  If so, that would be even more fun.

He should be entitled to Canadian citizenship by birth I guess. Even if he has renounced the Canadian citizenship,  at some point in his life he was Canadian too (I wonder how long ago was that and I demand to personally see the long form document showing that). Will being Canadian (even for one day) disqualify him?

I don't thinks so because IIRC U.S. law doesn't recognize dual citizenship... so I doubt it would matter, though IANAL.

Many "birthers" claim that dual citizenship at birth disqualifies an individual from being considered a "natural born" United States citizen. To support this argument, they have cited the legal ruling of Jack v. Shiat.


Didn't the legal ruling in Jack v. Shiat also declare polygamy to be constitutional in a rare double whammy?
 
2013-08-14 11:39:10 AM

IntertubeUser: Of course Cruz is a US citizen.  But I sure hope that the Dems everyone has some fun with it.


According to Birther logic he's actually Canadian.

He's a farking looney toon douchebag who has less of a chance than Rmoney had in any event
 
2013-08-14 11:39:17 AM

falcon176: He wasn't born in Canada you libs just like to spread misinformation, especially on this left wing lib site http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=C001098


His term ends on January 3, 2019. Six years now feels like an eternity.
 
2013-08-14 11:40:05 AM

Serious Black: Dimensio: d23: Jairzinho: Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder if he has dual citizenship.  If so, that would be even more fun.

He should be entitled to Canadian citizenship by birth I guess. Even if he has renounced the Canadian citizenship,  at some point in his life he was Canadian too (I wonder how long ago was that and I demand to personally see the long form document showing that). Will being Canadian (even for one day) disqualify him?

I don't thinks so because IIRC U.S. law doesn't recognize dual citizenship... so I doubt it would matter, though IANAL.

Many "birthers" claim that dual citizenship at birth disqualifies an individual from being considered a "natural born" United States citizen. To support this argument, they have cited the legal ruling of Jack v. Shiat.

Didn't the legal ruling in Jack v. Shiat also declare polygamy to be constitutional in a rare double whammy?


If cited as precedent by "birthers", I believe that any implications of the ruling regarding marriage are only applicable if a chicken is involved.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-14 11:41:19 AM

cretinbob: According to Birther logic he's actually Canadian.


But there is no birther or teahadian that has any problems with being hypocritical.  He's they're guy so anyone against him is a rotten kenyan communist and that's all there is to it.
 
2013-08-14 11:41:35 AM

Dimensio: If cited as precedent by "birthers", I believe that any implications of the ruling regarding marriage are only applicable if a chicken is involved.


I don't practice Santeria.
 
2013-08-14 11:45:48 AM

d23: Jairzinho: Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder if he has dual citizenship.  If so, that would be even more fun.

He should be entitled to Canadian citizenship by birth I guess. Even if he has renounced the Canadian citizenship,  at some point in his life he was Canadian too (I wonder how long ago was that and I demand to personally see the long form document showing that). Will being Canadian (even for one day) disqualify him?

I don't thinks so because IIRC U.S. law doesn't recognize dual citizenship... so I doubt it would matter, though IANAL.


The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause.

So, yeah - at the time of his birth, he would have been a dual citizen.  Whether he renounced his Canadian citizenship, though, I don't know.  Unless he's renounced his Canadian citizenship, he's a natural born citizen of Canada.  Since he is also a natural born citizen of the US, though, he would be eligible to run.

But honestly, who here thinks that his implied allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen, Her Heirs and Successors, and the Laws of Canada (required of citizens here) wouldn't come up at every opportunity?

It would be entertaining, at the very least.

And I won't even go into the whole "Peace, Order, and Good Government" thing, which is so clearly at odds with American culture...
 
2013-08-14 11:48:49 AM

Lemme explain it to you libtards ....

The Northern states of United States of America
0.tqn.com


The Islamic Communist Republic of Kenya
geography.about.com


mmmkay?
 
2013-08-14 11:50:38 AM

Diogenes: Dimensio: If cited as precedent by "birthers", I believe that any implications of the ruling regarding marriage are only applicable if a chicken is involved.

I don't practice Santeria.


You ain't got no crystal ball?
 
2013-08-14 11:53:57 AM

d23: cretinbob: According to Birther logic he's actually Canadian.

But there is no birther or teahadian that has any problems with being hypocritical.  He's they're guy so anyone against him is a rotten kenyan communist and that's all there is to it.


I wouldn't be too sure about that. Look at his last name.

And the fact that his father was a Communnist revolutionary will also be brought up.

If he made it to a general election I suspect most would fall into line, though.
 
2013-08-14 11:54:49 AM

Dimensio: Serious Black: Dimensio: d23: Jairzinho: Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder if he has dual citizenship.  If so, that would be even more fun.

He should be entitled to Canadian citizenship by birth I guess. Even if he has renounced the Canadian citizenship,  at some point in his life he was Canadian too (I wonder how long ago was that and I demand to personally see the long form document showing that). Will being Canadian (even for one day) disqualify him?

I don't thinks so because IIRC U.S. law doesn't recognize dual citizenship... so I doubt it would matter, though IANAL.

Many "birthers" claim that dual citizenship at birth disqualifies an individual from being considered a "natural born" United States citizen. To support this argument, they have cited the legal ruling of Jack v. Shiat.

Didn't the legal ruling in Jack v. Shiat also declare polygamy to be constitutional in a rare double whammy?

If cited as precedent by "birthers", I believe that any implications of the ruling regarding marriage are only applicable if a chicken is involved.


Ah, yes, I believe that was the corollary from the legal ruling in Ronald McDonald v. Chickens.
 
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