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(ESPN)   Don't look now, but you will never guess which two players lead all MLB position players (hitters/ fielders) in Wins Above Replacement   (espn.go.com) divider line 6
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2013-08-14 12:39:59 PM
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MugzyBrown: He has a significantly higher BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, and HRs, but is only .1 higher in WAR.

He's blowing everybody away in offensive categories, but is a notch ahead in WAR.


....yep? Not sure what point you're trying to make.

rickythepenguin: how many Yankee pitcher win totals were because they only had to pitch 7 innings, then Mariano iced it?


Don't know; don't care.

MugzyBrown: I'm sorry, stat heads don't value closers at all, so if you replaced Rivera with a journeyman relief pitcher for his whole career, the Yankees only would win 3 or 4 fewer games.


Mo's career fWAR is nearly 40, but yeah, totally. 3 or 4 wins. You totally understand what 'stat heads' think.
2013-08-14 11:26:15 AM
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DeWayne Mann: SlothB77: Rex_Banner: And Cabrera is probably going to win in a landslide anyway, so.......

I had just assumed Chris Davis was the frontrunner for this year's AL MVP.

MVP:
AL: Chris Davis
NL: Paul Goldschmidt

Cy Young
AL: Max Scherzer
NL: Clayton Kershaw

My only concern is both Davis and Goldschmidt are on teams that right now would not make the playoffs, and so if making the playoffs is a factor for those who decide, those awards could go to McCutchen and Cabrera instead.

Is this YOUR ballot, or what you think will happen?


What i think will happen.

My ballot is:

Trout
McCutchen

Scherzer
Kershaw
2013-08-14 11:15:14 AM
1 votes:

tdunning: WTF Indeed: Look stat geeks, you can stop kiss Trout's ass. No amount of math formulas and "Should salary be taken into account when voting of the MVP" will ever beat the facts that Cabrera is on an all-time historic tear and Trout's Angels are 10 games under .500.  As the old adage goes, the Angels could be 10 games under .500 with or without Trout.

Si Miggy is a better player because he is on a better team?  Good to know


notice how it's called "Most Valuable Player", not "Best Player"?
2013-08-14 11:06:39 AM
1 votes:

WTF Indeed: "Should salary be taken into account when voting of the MVP"


Who the hell said this? Because it's stupid
2013-08-14 11:04:55 AM
1 votes:
Look stat geeks, you can stop kiss Trout's ass. No amount of math formulas and "Should salary be taken into account when voting of the MVP" will ever beat the facts that Cabrera is on an all-time historic tear and Trout's Angels are 10 games under .500.  As the old adage goes, the Angels could be 10 games under .500 with or without Trout.
2013-08-14 10:59:51 AM
1 votes:
But I was told that WAR is good for absolutely nothing.
 
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