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(WWL)   Thief to jewelry store clerk: "Do you mind if I put these two Rolexes valued at $75,000 on at the same time to compare them?" Clerk: "Why no, not at all, my good fellow." Thief: Bye-yee   (wwl.com) divider line 80
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2013-08-14 10:34:43 AM  
Yoink!
 
2013-08-14 10:35:52 AM  

jso2897: PainInTheASP: jso2897: Not in uptown, high-line jewelry stores. They don't do "loss prevention" (to the public - they are fierce on their employees) because it turns off rich, hig-class people, and they go away nad don't buy your stuff.

Why?  Why would they feel threatened? It's an additional safety measure that they directly benefit from in the event of a robbery.  If I'm looking at expensive watches, it means that I can probably afford them.  If I can afford them, I probably have other items on my person that are worth a lot of money as well.

If this is the case, I'd much rather go to a store with heightened security.

Well, I'm only talking about high-line, high-class jewelry stores - places you don't shop anyway, so that's irrelevant.
Anyway, I've answered all your questions, and now you are repeating them - so we're done.
Have a nice day!


Maybe it's me, but when I think of high class jewelry stores, I don't think about one on Canal Street in New Orleans.

/been to NO a few times.
//wouldn't want to buy high-end anything from any store on Canal Street
 
2013-08-14 10:36:35 AM  

Nabb1: Since you're a watch nerd, you may appreciate this - A law school buddy of mine had parents who had a bit of money. And by "a bit" I mean back in the seventies, his dad loaned a buddy $10k for a one-fifth share in some lingerie store called Victoria's Secret. Anyhoo, his parents collected time-pieces, clocks, watches, and one of the watches his dad got was at a charity auction and it was a $75k Rolex custom designed for Deion Sanders when he signed with the Cowboys. It had a diamond bezel and a blue star on the face made of sapphire stones. It was gloriously over the top.


yikes! over the top is right!
 
2013-08-14 10:36:54 AM  

quickdraw: jso2897:
Have a nice day!

So... just wondering. What if you had super hawt scantily clad security people at the doors that fawn over the customers? I know they still cant do much really but they might be a deterrent and a sales tool!


Better than some big ugly guard that can't do anything anyway.
 
2013-08-14 10:37:28 AM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: FlashHarry: wait, you can buy REAL rolexes on canal st?

Not only that, but they're like half the price of a retail store. I got mine for less than 2500 bucks

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i have a vintage 1971 DJ that looks almost identical to that. i always loved the stick markers. nice buy!
 
2013-08-14 10:37:55 AM  

jso2897: But you are arguing about a business you are utterly ignorant of, with a person who spent twenty-five years in it


I guess the Jewelry retail business doesn't come up much on Fark. I used to work in construction and there is no end of opinions about the construction industry on Fark - especially after the last housing boom/bust cycle.

Now we're in another boom. Guess what, it will go bust too.

Anyways in about 1978 I worked in a Jewelery store in a ritzy beach town in Cali called Del Mar. It was a weird place. I think they were fencing goods from somewhere else. They put small heavy statues on the floors about knee high to keep people from running out with merchandise.
 
2013-08-14 10:39:23 AM  
That's it.  I'm changing the graphics of my cards so that no one will ever confuse them.

www.gobankingrates.com
 
2013-08-14 10:40:45 AM  

FlashHarry: Nabb1: Since you're a watch nerd, you may appreciate this - A law school buddy of mine had parents who had a bit of money. And by "a bit" I mean back in the seventies, his dad loaned a buddy $10k for a one-fifth share in some lingerie store called Victoria's Secret. Anyhoo, his parents collected time-pieces, clocks, watches, and one of the watches his dad got was at a charity auction and it was a $75k Rolex custom designed for Deion Sanders when he signed with the Cowboys. It had a diamond bezel and a blue star on the face made of sapphire stones. It was gloriously over the top.

yikes! over the top is right!


We had a terrible running joke where I would ask him what time it was, and he would look at it and say, "This watch says it's Prime Time."
 
2013-08-14 10:40:51 AM  

PsyLord: That's it.  I'm changing the graphics of my cards so that no one will ever confuse them.

[www.gobankingrates.com image 306x216]


Umm... wrong thread.

/facepalm
 
2013-08-14 10:41:52 AM  

PsyLord: PsyLord: That's it.  I'm changing the graphics of my cards so that no one will ever confuse them.

[www.gobankingrates.com image 306x216]

Umm... wrong thread.

/facepalm


Thank Goddess - I thought I was just really stoned way too early in the day.
 
2013-08-14 10:43:15 AM  

quickdraw: jso2897: But you are arguing about a business you are utterly ignorant of, with a person who spent twenty-five years in it

I guess the Jewelry retail business doesn't come up much on Fark. I used to work in construction and there is no end of opinions about the construction industry on Fark - especially after the last housing boom/bust cycle.

Now we're in another boom. Guess what, it will go bust too.

Anyways in about 1978 I worked in a Jewelery store in a ritzy beach town in Cali called Del Mar. It was a weird place. I think they were fencing goods from somewhere else. They put small heavy statues on the floors about knee high to keep people from running out with merchandise.


Jewelry stores are great places to launder money. I'm amazed that the business is as honest as it is - but it's kind of self-policing. If you do the wrong thing out on the Steet (yes, I've done the wholesale trade too) doors will close, and word will get around - you may as well go back to school, because you are done in the trade. Millions change hands on a handshake in that business, and you only get to be a scumbag once - after that, you're done.
I do remember when about half my trade clients in Laguna Beach were dealing weed and hash and so on under the counter. But that was the Sixties, so it doesn't count.
 
2013-08-14 10:49:34 AM  

Nabb1: We had a terrible running joke where I would ask him what time it was, and he would look at it and say, "This watch says it's Prime Time."


ok, that's pretty funny.
 
2013-08-14 11:01:49 AM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: FlashHarry: wait, you can buy REAL rolexes on canal st?

Not only that, but they're like half the price of a retail store. I got mine for less than 2500 bucks

[img.fark.net image 416x465]


A friend of mine's prized posession was his Roylex watch.
 
2013-08-14 11:11:40 AM  

FlashHarry: Lucidz: I am calling BS on a submariner costing 34000K...

And a used 16 year old platinum rolex being 42K?  uhhh.

I smell slow sales and insurance claim.

if new, the all-gold sub would retail for that (gold subs plummet in value when used, unlike stainless subs, which retain their value much better). the used plat DD would likely not retail for $42k, as a brand-new can be bought for $55k or so.

/watch nerd


I'm a nerd too, I get ya. I just know, I've been pricing rolex' for a while, and its rare to see something that's not solid gold or solid platinum go for that price.  And that's pretty high end to have TWO of.  A lot of Rolex dealers have MAYBE two of those on hand, but what idiot pulls BOTH out at the same price.  You're not even supposed to do that. (have more than one out at a time)

Most of the Rolex' I see, even new, like two tone daytonas (my dream) are around 10-15.

My datejust, 2 tone, I got used, and paid around 2k for it.  Estate auction...
 
2013-08-14 11:33:06 AM  

Lucidz: and its rare to see something that's not solid gold or solid platinum go for that price.


those are solid gold and platinum, respectively.

though there are stainless steel rolexes that go for far more than that due to their rarity (military subs can go for 6 figures, as can old "paul newman" daytonas).
 
2013-08-14 12:49:59 PM  
Ah, high collar crime.

Step 1: Look & act the part.

Whenever I walk into Tiffany's I make sure its a day I'm wearing a suit & tie. Walk right in, ignoring the doorman and security guard, don't even glance at them they are not worth your glare. Go straight to the tall, beautiful "greeter" lady in the center of the first floor.

Step 2: Know the layout.

When she smiles at you, smile back, with a flirty look, like you know what she does on her off-hours. (Escorting) When she politely asks you what you're looking for today, tell her "Engagement-rings, 2nd floor towards the back, I know." And give her a wink. Head on up to that section. Tale the elevator even though it's only one flight up and don't make small talk with the squat woman on the stool in charge of pushing the buttons.

Step 3: Get "the guy" to bring you out some goods. Resist the urge to smash & run.
 
2013-08-14 01:04:35 PM  
35 years ago this would have been obama.
 
2013-08-14 01:51:49 PM  
The clerk was in on it.
 
2013-08-14 02:16:29 PM  
Wat-ches?
avatarmaker.net
 
2013-08-14 02:17:53 PM  
jso2897 Thanks for your input, I learnt something today.  I hope you're getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2013-08-14 02:23:06 PM  

The_EliteOne: Ah, high collar crime.

Step 1: Look & act the part.

Whenever I walk into Tiffany's I make sure its a day I'm wearing a suit & tie. Walk right in, ignoring the doorman and security guard, don't even glance at them they are not worth your glare. Go straight to the tall, beautiful "greeter" lady in the center of the first floor.

Step 2: Know the layout.

When she smiles at you, smile back, with a flirty look, like you know what she does on her off-hours. (Escorting) When she politely asks you what you're looking for today, tell her "Engagement-rings, 2nd floor towards the back, I know." And give her a wink. Head on up to that section. Tale the elevator even though it's only one flight up and don't make small talk with the squat woman on the stool in charge of pushing the buttons.

Step 3: Get "the guy" to bring you out some goods. Resist the urge to smash & run.


i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-08-14 02:27:12 PM  
Rolex ppfft.....
May cost more and hold its value better but I would put my Omega SS Seamaster Chronograph Chronometer agains any Rolex Submariner.
 
2013-08-14 02:40:38 PM  
Years ago when  promotions one of the sales douches had me drive down to a high end jewelry store to "pick something up". I jsut figured it was sales contracts or something boring like that. It was $180k in jewelry. It was rather odd when the manager opened up the bag there after checking my ID. He showed me each piece had me sign off on it. And I was dressed like I belonged there, shorts, tshirt, ballcap and was sporting a high end set of wheels, the company mini covered in flowers. They did send two security guards to escort me to my car so that was nice. I was kinda tempted to drive off and fake my death and dump the car in the river.  The sales guy got a royal ass chewing by at least 3 managers, because he was supposed to handle it himself.
 
2013-08-14 03:37:24 PM  

John Hopoate: jso2897 Thanks for your input, I learnt something today.  I hope you're getting a kick out of these replies.


I kept really hoping he was going to eventually break into that meme during one of his rants...

/So disappointed...
 
2013-08-14 04:08:46 PM  

Vulgar_the_Clown: Rolex ppfft.....
May cost more and hold its value better but I would put my Omega SS Seamaster Chronograph Chronometer agains any Rolex Submariner.


i wear a sub date, but i also have a couple of omegas (vintage 60s, including an old seamaster). i like omega a lot, but i find the newer seamasters to be a bit "blingy." they're fine watches, to be sure. but to each his own, i guess.

that being said, for chronos, i'd rather have an omega speedmaster (manual wind, of course) than a rolex daytona.
 
2013-08-14 06:14:44 PM  

PainInTheASP: jso2897: There might have been - there isn't much detail in the story - but I 've seen and heard of door goons being successfully evaded - and often, they are not allowed to use any force to detain anyone. As a store owner (when I was one) I would NEVER allow it.

Have you ever seen loss prevention in action?  I've seen people get tackled over a carton of cigarettes.


jso2897: PainInTheASP: jso2897: PainInTheASP: I'm wondering why the hell the guard that was sitting at the door didn't clothesline the dude with his nightstick.

You sell genuine Rolex watches, so you must have a guard sitting by the door, right?

Right?!?!

I will explain this to you the best I can, based on my 25 some-odd years in that business.
The jeweler - especially the high-line jeweler - faces a dilemma. His goods are extremely valuable, and if he were a bank, he would keep them locked away in a deep vault.
But he isn't a bank. He actually has to SELL the stuff - useless stuff that costs vast quantities of money. And NOBODY is going to pay for it if the don't love it, because they don't need it.
You can't sell fine jewelry from behind bullet-proof glass. People want to handle it, fondle it, smear their funky DNA all over it before they'll love it. And every little once in a while, one of those people turns out to be a thief, and evades security. The snatch and grab and the smash and grab are a reality, and you can't sell high line jewelry to classy customers in a hostile, security oriented setting that could prevent them with certainty.
(Note - there are shiatty pawn shops and so on that have security doors and so on - they are not high line jewelry stores)
So - it's a cost of doing business - one of the many things you pay for when you buy fine jewelry.
I understand that a lot of Farkers are amazed at the lax security, and suppose themselves clever and wise for pointing it out - they are just uninformed - but that's OK., because I just educated them.

Who the hell is talking about bullet-proof glass?  They just lost two Rolex watches worth a combined SEVENTY-FIVE GRAND. I bet the CTO on those two items is more than enough to cover a part-time goon who dresses nice.  And I bet that after this there WILL be a goon at the door of that place.

There might have been - there isn't much detail in the story - but I 've seen and heard of door goons being successfully evaded ...


as a former lp person - the comment of the owner not wanting to disturb his actual customers with the rough & tumble that often comes with arresting people is spot on.

from big corporations to "mom & pop" shops - the liability associated with arresting people is often considered too high compared to the losses they sustain through theft.

/there was a Ross dept. store in the same mall i worked at - they took the "no LP" route cause liability.  we were actually busting thieves in my store who said they came to us cause the shelves were cleaned out at Ross - they went back to security after that i heard - csb
 
2013-08-14 06:31:05 PM  
security at the door was said to be sleeping peacefully in his rocking chair during the robbery.

i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-08-14 09:57:14 PM  

inner ted: as a former lp person - the comment of the owner not wanting to disturb his actual customers with the rough & tumble that often comes with arresting people is spot on.

from big corporations to "mom & pop" shops - the liability associated with arresting people is often considered too high compared to the losses they sustain through theft.

/there was a Ross dept. store in the same mall i worked at - they took the "no LP" route cause liability.  we were actually busting thieves in my store who said they came to us cause the shelves were cleaned out at Ross - they went back to security after that i heard - csb


Back when I was working retail (selling glasses), head office told us straight up "don't worry about shoplifters".  It's not worth the time and money to fight a pro, who's just as likely to ditch the loot then sue you for wrongful accusation.

That's if they don't stab you or something.
 
2013-08-14 10:07:42 PM  

theMagni: inner ted: as a former lp person - the comment of the owner not wanting to disturb his actual customers with the rough & tumble that often comes with arresting people is spot on.

from big corporations to "mom & pop" shops - the liability associated with arresting people is often considered too high compared to the losses they sustain through theft.

/there was a Ross dept. store in the same mall i worked at - they took the "no LP" route cause liability.  we were actually busting thieves in my store who said they came to us cause the shelves were cleaned out at Ross - they went back to security after that i heard - csb

Back when I was working retail (selling glasses), head office told us straight up "don't worry about shoplifters".  It's not worth the time and money to fight a pro, who's just as likely to ditch the loot then sue you for wrongful accusation.

That's if they don't stab you or something.


Yep, that. When I worked at B. Dalton, the home office was vehement about letting shoplifters walk. No sense putting yourself at risk over a mass market paperback.

/Usually just kids boosting the Playboys from the magazine stand
//And the one mentally disabled guy who sat down, read 'em cover to cover, rolled 'em up, put 'em in his back pocket, and walked out.
 
2013-08-15 02:13:02 AM  
Amusing? Er... News?

Not really.
 
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