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2013-08-14 07:36:48 AM
It's a Kilo class boat.

Sounds like a battery fire (relatively common hazard on diesel/electric boats), followed by some of the torpedoes cooking off.  Either that, or torpedo fuel ignited, which subsequently cooked off the warheards.

Also, there is a remote possibility that a raksasha was attacking zombie Darren McGavin, and he fired a crossbow bolt shorted out the high voltage bus on the main electrical switch panel, which then sparked and ignited the pure ethanol the chief of the boat had stashed back behind the panel for "medicinal purposes".  But that's a remote possibility.
 
2013-08-14 07:41:32 AM
It's probably for the best. I hear they were carrying a large load of army blankets.
 
2013-08-14 07:44:41 AM
There once was a sub in Mumbai
that came from the Soviets by and by.
But everyone gasped
when there was a sudden blast.
But it's a soviet sub, so they should just say "bye bye"
 
2013-08-14 07:45:43 AM
Well, somebody didn't do the needful.
 
2013-08-14 07:47:12 AM
Warmongering Ghandi!
 
2013-08-14 07:48:35 AM
Sounds like someone forgot to vent the boat, and a hydrogen buildup from a leaking batteries ignited. Once that happens all sorts of things get ignited and burn, explode, whatever, and anyone that was on the boat died almost immediately.
 
2013-08-14 07:49:11 AM
Sound like heap big trouble under the great waters, Kemosabe. No more go on warpath.
 
2013-08-14 07:49:55 AM
Heh...anyone seen that welder who set fire to one of our subs to get a day off?

Maybe he found a new job...
 
2013-08-14 07:50:19 AM
It was docked and they couldn't keep it from sinking? Don't they have ropes in India?
 
2013-08-14 07:50:23 AM

dittybopper: It's a Kilo class boat.

Sounds like a battery fire (relatively common hazard on diesel/electric boats), followed by some of the torpedoes cooking off.  Either that, or torpedo fuel ignited, which subsequently cooked off the warheards.

Also, there is a remote possibility that a raksasha was attacking zombie Darren McGavin, and he fired a crossbow bolt shorted out the high voltage bus on the main electrical switch panel, which then sparked and ignited the pure ethanol the chief of the boat had stashed back behind the panel for "medicinal purposes".  But that's a remote possibility.


You have an active imaginatio.  I don't even now what a raksasha is who who Darren McGavin is either, but I was entertained.
 
2013-08-14 07:54:38 AM
Swamp gas reflecting off a weather balloon.
Nothing to see here.
 
2013-08-14 07:54:49 AM
No, no. The Polish ones have screen doors, the Indian ones have those beads that hang down.
 
2013-08-14 07:59:40 AM
Last year, India acquired a Russian Nerpa nuclear submarine for its navy on a 10-year lease from Russia at a total cost of nearly $1 billion.

On Saturday, India activated the atomic reactor on its first indigenously designed and built nuclear submarine, which the navy could deploy in the next two years.


Mmmhmmm... Sounds like they only needed a 1-year lease to copy all that Russian tech over.
 
2013-08-14 08:00:56 AM
The 18 who died where trapped after the explosion and fire. Sad day to be a submariner, no matter what country.
 
2013-08-14 08:00:59 AM

 We all live in a burned-out submarine
a burned-out submarine
a burned-out submarine 

 
2013-08-14 08:02:06 AM

LoneVVolf: Last year, India acquired a Russian Nerpa nuclear submarine for its navy on a 10-year lease from Russia at a total cost of nearly $1 billion.

On Saturday, India activated the atomic reactor on its first indigenously designed and built nuclear submarine, which the navy could deploy in the next two years.

Mmmhmmm... Sounds like they only needed a 1-year lease to copy all that Russian tech over.


The Russian subs were all diesels. Nuclear is a whole different ballgame.
 
2013-08-14 08:02:29 AM
It's a submarine, it's designed to sink.
 
2013-08-14 08:03:08 AM

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: LoneVVolf: Last year, India acquired a Russian Nerpa nuclear submarine for its navy on a 10-year lease from Russia at a total cost of nearly $1 billion.

On Saturday, India activated the atomic reactor on its first indigenously designed and built nuclear submarine, which the navy could deploy in the next two years.

Mmmhmmm... Sounds like they only needed a 1-year lease to copy all that Russian tech over.

The Russian subs were all diesels. Nuclear is a whole different ballgame.


Oh, frack me. I didn't read your post all the way. Sorry.
 
2013-08-14 08:03:21 AM
Damn, I couldn't find an image of both Nemo and the Nautilus:

static.comicvine.com
 
2013-08-14 08:05:16 AM
It is an actual submarine..who knew

www.thehindu.com

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-14 08:09:59 AM
We should offer our assistance. It would really curry some favor with India.
 
2013-08-14 08:10:15 AM

gfid: I don't even now what a raksasha is who who Darren McGavin is either, but I was entertained.


Darren McGavin (the dad from the movie "A Christmas Story") played the character Carl Kolchak in the 1970's TV horror series "Kolchak: The Night Stalker".   One of the episodes involved a shape-shifting Hindu demon called a 'rakshasa'.  In that episode, he kills the rakshasa, who appears to him to be the elderly advice columnist from his work, with a crossbow bolt.
 
2013-08-14 08:11:35 AM

JohnCarter: It is an actual submarine..who knew


Well, it's more of an ex submarine now.

demotivators.despair.com
 
2013-08-14 08:12:44 AM

JohnCarter: It is an actual submarine..who knew

[www.thehindu.com image 636x390]

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 468x312]


That can't be an Indian submarine.

There aren't 1000 people standing on the hull.
 
2013-08-14 08:14:44 AM

abhorrent1: It was docked and they couldn't keep it from sinking? Don't they have ropes in India?


None that are avaliable. They are all used for this:
www.openthemagazine.com
 
2013-08-14 08:16:05 AM

LoneVVolf: Last year, India acquired a Russian Nerpa nuclear submarine for its navy on a 10-year lease from Russia at a total cost of nearly $1 billion.

On Saturday, India activated the atomic reactor on its first indigenously designed and built nuclear submarine, which the navy could deploy in the next two years.

Mmmhmmm... Sounds like they only needed a 1-year lease to copy all that Russian tech over.


Let...  Let me understand your theory better.

It's your theory that the Indians leased a diesel powered submarine and reverse engineered a diesel powered engine to make a nuclear powered submarine.

Is that really the line of reasoning you want to be farkied for?  Really?
 
2013-08-14 08:16:45 AM

Creoena: Well, somebody didn't do the needful.


Over in 4.   Maybe someone tried to reboot it.
 
2013-08-14 08:19:42 AM
I wonder if they were practicing Chinese fire drills prior to the "accident."
 
2013-08-14 08:19:50 AM

Shakespeare's Monkey: JohnCarter: It is an actual submarine..who knew

Well, it's more of an ex submarine now.

[demotivators.despair.com image 617x435]


It's still underwater, so technically it's still sub-marine.
 
2013-08-14 08:20:28 AM
I'll bet they blame it on a gay guy.
 
2013-08-14 08:21:57 AM
I can only imagine the fate that awaits their new carrier. .
 
2013-08-14 08:22:19 AM
Because when i think of copying tech to make a cheaper home version, ex-Soviet gear is the first thing i think of....


India hates its military.
 
2013-08-14 08:22:27 AM
images4.wikia.nocookie.net

Have you tried rebooting it?
 
2013-08-14 08:24:09 AM

dittybopper: gfid: I don't even now what a raksasha is who who Darren McGavin is either, but I was entertained.

Darren McGavin (the dad from the movie "A Christmas Story") played the character Carl Kolchak in the 1970's TV horror series "Kolchak: The Night Stalker".   One of the episodes involved a shape-shifting Hindu demon called a 'rakshasa'.  In that episode, he kills the rakshasa, who appears to him to be the elderly advice columnist from his work, with a crossbow bolt.


radioactive-studios.com
What a Rakshasa looks like when not appearing as one of your friends.
 
2013-08-14 08:26:44 AM

ranak: I can only imagine the fate that awaits their new carrier. .


It's going to hit some sort of storm-induced temporal anomaly, and go back in time to 1857 on the eave of the Indian Rebellion, and the crew will attempt to interdict British colonial troops, only to be stopped by the reappearance of the storm which sent them back in time in the first place.
 
2013-08-14 08:27:26 AM
Indian Submarine Fleet Fading Away

"September 3, 2009: India's slothful and larcenous weapons procurement bureaucracy has been blamed on the delays, and cost overruns, encountered in building six French Scorpene diesel-electric submarines. Currently, the project is two years behind schedule. But it is even more behind schedule if you count the several years the Indian bureaucrats delayed it even getting started. The delays are going to cost India an additional half a billion dollars. That's for a project that is currently expected to cost $4 billion.

There's some urgency to all this, because by 2012, five of India's 16 subs (10 Kilo and two Foxtrot class Russian built boats and , four German Type 209s) will be retired (some are already semi-retired because of age and infirmity). Two years after that, India will only have five working subs."
 
2013-08-14 08:28:50 AM

Red Shirt Blues: dittybopper: gfid: I don't even now what a raksasha is who who Darren McGavin is either, but I was entertained.

Darren McGavin (the dad from the movie "A Christmas Story") played the character Carl Kolchak in the 1970's TV horror series "Kolchak: The Night Stalker".   One of the episodes involved a shape-shifting Hindu demon called a 'rakshasa'.  In that episode, he kills the rakshasa, who appears to him to be the elderly advice columnist from his work, with a crossbow bolt.

[radioactive-studios.com image 560x420]
What a Rakshasa looks like when not appearing as one of your friends.


Man, Hagrid has really let himself go...
 
2013-08-14 08:32:09 AM
India Prepares For The Worst

December 28, 2009: India is preparing for the worst, when it comes to its submarine fleet. This can be seen by the fact that India paid the U.S. Navy $100,000 to be one of the countries that can have American SRDRS (submarine rescue equipment) flown in, on 48 hours notice.

India is expecting a submarine disaster.


Indian admirals are resigned to the fact that their submarine fleet (of 16 boats) will shrink before new subs can be built. By 2012, five of India's 16 subs (10 Kilo and two Foxtrot class Russian built boats and four German Type 209s) will be retired (some are already semi-retired because of age and infirmity). Two years after that, India will only have five working subs. Meanwhile, the older subs still go to sea for training. While it would be safer to just keep these boats in port, without the training, these subs, and their crews, would be in even greater danger if war broke out.
 
2013-08-14 08:35:49 AM

dittybopper: ranak: I can only imagine the fate that awaits their new carrier. .

It's going to hit some sort of storm-induced temporal anomaly, and go back in time to 1857 on the eave of the Indian Rebellion, and the crew will attempt to interdict British colonial troops, only to be stopped by the reappearance of the storm which sent them back in time in the first place.


I hate you a little bit for now making me want to watch that movie. Off to Netflix.
 
2013-08-14 08:37:53 AM
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsub/articles/20130105.aspx

The Curse Continues

January 5, 2013: The Indian Navy made public its efforts to get critical (but unnamed) replacement parts for the nuclear submarine (INS Chakra) it received from Russia last January. India has often had problems getting parts or other forms of service for Russian weapons. The Indians are no longer inclined to play nice with the Russians on these matters. President Putin of Russia promised to sort this out quickly.

INS Chakra was formally the Nerpa, a Russian Akula II class submarine that was supposed to be turned over to India (which is leasing it) three years ago. The main reason for the delay was a safety issue. Four years ago, during sea trials, there was an equipment failure that killed 20 sailors and shipyard workers aboard the Nerpa. This delayed sea trials for many months and the Russians found more items that needed attention. These additional inspections and repairs continued until quite recently. India is paying $90 million a year for ten years to lease the Nerpa, an 8,100 ton Russian sub that was then renamed INS Chakra (the same name used by the Charlie class Russian sub India leased from 1988-91) by the Indians.

There have been many reasons for getting this sub from Russia. Back in 2010 the Indian crew, after more than a year of training, found that they were not fully prepared to take over the sub. The crew required another six months of training. The Russians were being blamed, partly because they were in charge of the training and partly because they recently made a lot of internal changes to the Nerpa. But Indians also admit that all their veteran nuclear submarine sailors (who manned a leased Russian nuclear sub from 1988-91) were retired and the difficulties of learning how to run a nuclear boat were underestimated.
The Nerpa was built for this Indian deal and finally completed its sea trials and was accepted into Russian service in late 2009. India was supposed to take possession in May 2010, but there were more delays, mainly because of the accidental activation of the fire extinguisher system and death of twenty on board. There were 208 people aboard the sub at the time, most of them navy and shipyard personnel there to closely monitor all aspects of the sub as it made its first dives and other maneuvers. The source of the fatal accident was poor design and construction of the safety systems. This accident led to sailors and shipyard technicians being fearful of going to sea on the boat. So the sea trials were delayed, even after repairs were made.

The post-accident modifications on the Nerpa cost $65 million. The lease arrangement has India paying $178,000 a day, for ten years, for use of the sub. The 7,000 ton Akula II requires a crew of 73 highly trained sailors. Over a hundred Indian sailors have undergone training to run the boat.
It was Indian money that enabled Russia to complete construction on at least two Akulas. These boats were less than half finished at the end of the Cold War. This was another aftereffect of the collapse of the Soviet Union. Several major shipbuilding projects were basically put on hold (which still cost a lot of money), in the hopes that something would turn up. In this case, it was Indians with lots of cash.
Traditionally, when a new ship loses a lot of people during sea trials it is regarded as "cursed" and unlucky. Sailors can be superstitious, especially when there are dead bodies involved. It's not known if India will have any problems with this.
India has designed and built its own nuclear sub but the first one is basically a development craft, and mass production of Indian designed nuclear subs is still 5-10 years away. The unlucky Russian sub will enable India to train more nuclear sub sailors in the meantime.
 
2013-08-14 08:39:12 AM
India has been trying for some years to go down the "Big Navy" path, to counter Chinese attempts to surround her with naval bases.  It won't work. They're not ready for it.
 
2013-08-14 08:40:43 AM
Who knew  native Americans had submarines?
 
2013-08-14 08:41:20 AM
Trying to get the day off with fire strategy.
 
2013-08-14 08:45:35 AM
How do Indian subs even submerge?  Aren't just packed with thousands of people inside and all over it like their trains?
 
2013-08-14 08:45:44 AM

Archie Goodwin: JohnCarter: It is an actual submarine..who knew

[www.thehindu.com image 636x390]

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 468x312]

That can't be an Indian submarine.

There aren't 1000 people standing on the hull.


You're a bad person and you should feel bad for making me lol like that.
 
2013-08-14 09:00:16 AM

Satanic_Hamster: LoneVVolf: Last year, India acquired a Russian Nerpa nuclear submarine for its navy on a 10-year lease from Russia at a total cost of nearly $1 billion.

On Saturday, India activated the atomic reactor on its first indigenously designed and built nuclear submarine, which the navy could deploy in the next two years.

Mmmhmmm... Sounds like they only needed a 1-year lease to copy all that Russian tech over.

Let...  Let me understand your theory better.

It's your theory that the Indians leased a diesel powered submarine and reverse engineered a diesel powered engine to make a nuclear powered submarine.

Is that really the line of reasoning you want to be farkied for?  Really?


Let... Let me understand your theory better.

It's your theory, that you can not fully read and understand the entirety of a post before you immediately jump down to the comment box and start incorrectly chastising someone for a mistake they didn't make?

Is that really the line of reasoning you want to be farkied for? Really?

/Bolded the important parts you skimmed.
 
2013-08-14 09:02:00 AM
As a man who does science on a regular basis, it is my professional science opinion the it was a build-up of methane from the previous nights tandoori goats ass, curried weasel and garlic naan.
Now as a man of science, I'm off to do more science,
/science
 
2013-08-14 09:10:57 AM

dancindan84: Let... Let me understand your theory better.

It's your theory, that you can not fully read and understand the entirety of a post before you immediately jump down to the comment box and start incorrectly chastising someone for a mistake they didn't make?

Is that really the line of reasoning you want to be farkied for? Really?

/Bolded the important parts you skimmed.


Eh.

Just got up.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-14 09:11:56 AM
I don't see why Native Americans needed a submarine anyway...
 
2013-08-14 09:18:22 AM

ein727: I don't see why Native Americans needed a submarine anyway...


Sneak up on water buffalo.
 
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