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2013-08-13 08:35:03 PM
Few companies have applied this appeal more literally than Papa John's, which for years has boasted "Better pizza. Better ingredients."

It's "Better ingredients, better pizza."  How do you mess that up?
 
2013-08-13 08:48:52 PM

timujin: Few companies have applied this appeal more literally than Papa John's, which for years has boasted "Better pizza. Better ingredients."

It's "Better ingredients, better pizza."  How do you mess that up?


When the goal is to be better than standard issue flyover state pizza, there's still plenty of room to screw it up.
 
2013-08-13 08:52:27 PM
I don't have to go to my local independent place to get better pizza than Papa Johns. Pizza Hut, Dominos, and Little Caesars are all improvements over Papa Johns.
 
2013-08-13 08:59:27 PM
Now THIS is the kind of 'not news' that made me love Fark.

TuteTibiImperes: Dominos


If there's one thing I like about Dominos, it's their chicken tenders and mango habanero sauce. And really it's just the sauce, because that stuff is great.
 
2013-08-13 09:00:48 PM
"Papa" John Schnatter. "I went the extra mile to ensure we used the highest quality ingredients available - like fresh, never frozen original dough, all-natural sauce, veggies sliced fresh daily and 100 percent real beef and pork. We think you'll taste the difference."


 I'm sure there's some 'technical lies' there....Yes, we slice the veggies daily before shipping them out from central where they're put in fridge a few days...because slicing the same veggies multiple times over a few days would be a pain.
 
2013-08-13 09:01:24 PM
I live in Staten Island. Of course my local pizza place is better...
 
2013-08-13 09:15:54 PM

optikeye: "Papa" John Schnatter. "I went the extra mile to ensure we used the highest quality ingredients available - like fresh, never frozen original dough, all-natural sauce, veggies sliced fresh daily and 100 percent real beef and pork. We think you'll taste the difference."


 I'm sure there's some 'technical lies' there....Yes, we slice the veggies daily before shipping them out from central where they're put in fridge a few days...because slicing the same veggies multiple times over a few days would be a pain.


When I worked in for Papa John's in the late nineties all the veggies were whole and were sliced up during prep in the morning as needed. YMMV
 
2013-08-13 09:17:23 PM
It takes them three days to get ingredients? We get ours daily. We don't have an ad campaign centered around boasting about freshness. We let the food speak for itself.

/favorite thing to hear from customers is "it smell so good in here!"
//when was the last time they heard that at Papa John's?
 
2013-08-13 09:19:04 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I don't have to go to my local independent place to get better pizza than Papa Johns. Pizza Hut, Dominos, and Little Caesars are all improvements over Papa Johns.


Freakin' Tombstone is better than Papa Johns

/I wouldn't eat it when I could get it free
//ex was a manager
 
2013-08-13 09:20:42 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: TuteTibiImperes: I don't have to go to my local independent place to get better pizza than Papa Johns. Pizza Hut, Dominos, and Little Caesars are all improvements over Papa Johns.

Freakin' Tombstone is better than Papa Johns

/I wouldn't eat it when I could get it free
//ex was a manager


It used to be, but now not so much.
 
2013-08-13 09:25:49 PM
Are tears of impotent Republican rage the secret ingredients?
 
2013-08-13 09:28:09 PM
I prefer to know that my pizza has been locally sourced by living wage-paid immigrant single mothers.
 
2013-08-13 09:28:27 PM

Candygram4Mongo: I live in Staten Island. Of course my local pizza place is better...


There are things that are better in Staten Island?
 
2013-08-13 09:29:10 PM

Candygram4Mongo: I live in Staten Island. Of course my local pizza place is better...


Sure, if you hop the ferry...
 
2013-08-13 09:29:34 PM

optikeye: 's some 'technical lies' there....Yes, we slice the veggies daily before shipping them out from central where they're put in fridge a few days...because slicing the same veggies multiple times over a few days would be a pain.


I used to slice green peppers and onions every day when I worked there. Green Peppers, Onions, and Mushrooms came from local farms. Everything else came in bags. The dough came in refrigerated trucks in trays it was never frozen but it could have defrosted on the way there. The cheese dropped in quality when the price of cheese went up and when the price went dopwn it never got better. That's all I know.
 
2013-08-13 09:31:14 PM
I don't think anyone needs this.  It's cheap.  I know what I'm getting.
 
2013-08-13 09:33:24 PM
I was a manger in the early 90s. Papa John himself taught me to make a pizza. He was a fairly decent guy. I met him again years later working for Comcast when he had some deal with them and he was a total douche bag. Money does change some people.
 
2013-08-13 09:33:24 PM
In this thread:  People butthurt over a chain pizza joint being a chain pizza joint and talking about how their place has the freshest and bestest.  Surprise!  They don't give a fark about you and it's all marketing to get you to buy their product over some other chain's product.
 
2013-08-13 09:33:35 PM
Local place?  I live in south Los Angeles county, we really don't have better places than Papa John, or Dominos and Pizza Hut for that matter.
 
2013-08-13 09:34:22 PM
Well, most local places ARE better. Why, if you were in a neighborhood/town/city with a decent number of restaurants, would you ever eat at a chain when something more homegrown, tastier, and price-competitive is likely available? If you live in some podunkville were Pizza Hut is the only pizza place in town I totally get that, but why would you go there otherwise?
 
2013-08-13 09:36:04 PM

alaric3: The cheese dropped in quality when the price of cheese went up and when the price went dopwn it never got better. That's all I know.


It's not just Papa Johns where that happened, the shredded mozzarella cheese at the grocery store really suffered in quality and it had not gotten better.
 
2013-08-13 09:36:04 PM
Anyone who has ever eaten a Papa John's pizza could immediately tell you that there is nothing  better about it.
 
2013-08-13 09:36:27 PM
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Yeah. Walmart of all places makes a better pizza than papa johns.
 
2013-08-13 09:36:44 PM

Eltardo: In this thread:  People butthurt


You're adorable.
 
2013-08-13 09:37:09 PM
greeks make better pizza than the italians
*runs*
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2013-08-13 09:37:09 PM
Also Papa John's tomato sauce is really sweet. Gross
 
2013-08-13 09:37:47 PM
I just finished off a Giordano's large pepperoni pizza, which is basically 16lbs of cheese with a little marinara sauce.  I don't know if it was better than Pappa John's, but it makes makes my gallbladder reenact a scene from "300" with my pancreas.

/I think those bulimics might be on to something
 
2013-08-13 09:38:34 PM

ThatGuyGreg: timujin: Few companies have applied this appeal more literally than Papa John's, which for years has boasted "Better pizza. Better ingredients."

It's "Better ingredients, better pizza."  How do you mess that up?

When the goal is to be better than standard issue flyover state pizza, there's still plenty of room to screw it up.


I was referring to the writer having screwed up the company slogan.  It would be like saying Burger King's is "Your way, have it."

That being said, yeah, most pizza I've had in flyover country is pretty bad.  Luckily, most of those places make up for it with other regional specialties.
 
2013-08-13 09:38:37 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I don't have to go to my local independent place to get better pizza than Papa Johns. Pizza Hut, Dominos, and Little Caesars are all improvements over Papa Johns.


Little Ceasars...really? That's the only chain pizza I've eaten in years, and it's not really all that good. You sure?
 
2013-08-13 09:39:00 PM
Let me just say: Here in the frozen North, we have 2 options - Pizza 73, and Boston Pizza.  They both suck.
 
2013-08-13 09:40:27 PM

SirEattonHogg: Local place?  I live in south Los Angeles county, we really don't have better places than Papa John, or Dominos and Pizza Hut for that matter.


Los Angeles County is a big place.  There is definitely better pizza here.  Maybe not where you live, but I've certainly had some.
 
2013-08-13 09:40:31 PM
Never had Papa John's pizza, looks like crap to me.  After the local store was relentless in leaving flyers on my door about every other week, I knew I would never have Papa John's pizza.

Those partnerships with the NFL, including the Sunday Night Football and the Super Bowl can't be cheap.

Then the d-bag comes out and made his stupid comments about the Affordable Care Act.

He can shove his better ingredients.
 
2013-08-13 09:40:57 PM
Pizza hut and Papa johns are two pizza joints I think serve the worse pizza I've ever tasted. A local ad here brags "papa johns owner is named John, pizza huts owner is name...whatever...." the ad goes on and on about how the owners are not italian.  Anyhow the local pizza joint goes on to brag "Our owner is named Marcos, who was born in italy, who uses fresh ingredients and sauce". Fact is his pizza tastes alright, but for the price - I will continue to order Hungry Howies.

I rather bake my own pizza, and 60% of the time I do so, fresh veggies and real tomato sauce. Problem is 40% of the time I don't have the available time to slice and dice, and to bake. I'd rather just order...domino's for $8.

To me domino's pan pizza vs what I can create, they win, far as most other pizza places even new york or chicago? I can't tell a difference.
 
2013-08-13 09:41:18 PM

Stone Meadow: TuteTibiImperes: I don't have to go to my local independent place to get better pizza than Papa Johns. Pizza Hut, Dominos, and Little Caesars are all improvements over Papa Johns.

Little Ceasars...really? That's the only chain pizza I've eaten in years, and it's not really all that good. You sure?


I really can't think of a worse pizza than Papa John's, including frozen pizza.  It's farking inedible.
 
2013-08-13 09:42:04 PM
Eat Pappa John's if you like it, otherwise don't

But if you care about high quality, nutritious food for your family, you don't care what's in Papa John's pizza.
 
2013-08-13 09:43:02 PM

Candygram4Mongo: I live in Staten Island. Of course my local pizza place is better...


Pizza is literally the only thing I miss about growing up on Staten Island.
 
2013-08-13 09:44:33 PM
 
2013-08-13 09:45:59 PM

Candygram4Mongo: I live in Staten Island. Of course my local pizza place is better...


Chicago is local to Staten Island?

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2013-08-13 09:46:09 PM
I only eat artisan pizzas, hand-crafted by Italian elves in Napoli, from free-range organic ingredients, cooked in wood-burning ovens fired by logs from sustainable forests and packaged in recyclable boxes made of 100% post-consumer fiber.
 
2013-08-13 09:46:37 PM
I used to get pizza from this place on 10th and Catherine or there abouts in Philadelphia, an old fat Italian guy and his two skinny kids all in t-shirts, sweating on all the food, but my god was that pizza by the slice awesome. You could smell and taste every ingredient. I also worked at a pizzeria while I was in school and the Italian owner would stir the sauce as he was making it with his arm, he was quite hairy but he made the best sauce.
 
2013-08-13 09:46:51 PM

ThatGuyGreg: timujin: Few companies have applied this appeal more literally than Papa John's, which for years has boasted "Better pizza. Better ingredients."

It's "Better ingredients, better pizza."  How do you mess that up?

When the goal is to be better than standard issue flyover state pizza, there's still plenty of room to screw it up.


Ah, yes.  New Jersey is known all over the globe for their world-class pizza.
 
2013-08-13 09:47:18 PM
What's that you say? A loudmouthed rightwing asshole who can't keep his reactionary politics out of his business makes and purveys shiatty food?
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2013-08-13 09:47:28 PM
From this thread it seems I'm the only one that actually likes Papa John's pizza.

Added bonus: They carry Pepsi products (Mountain Dew).

I'm actually gonna order a pie right now.  Papa's Rewards helps when every 5 pies I order means I get one free.
 
2013-08-13 09:47:38 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Let me just say: Here in the frozen North, we have 2 options - Pizza 73, and Boston Pizza.  They both suck.


And the worst thing is, Boston Pizza is somehow expanding south. I never knew pizza could be so bad until I was subjected to a Boston Pizza outside Dallas, TX. Yikes! How anyone can voluntarily eat there is way beyond me ...
 
2013-08-13 09:47:44 PM
I'm no food snob - hell, I'll actually eat taco bell. The whole 'were these ingredients hand-picked by happy, smiling farmers this morning?' question isn't all that important to me. All I really care is if it tastes good. I don't know if papa john's actually has all those fresh ingredients they claim to, but what I do know is that their pizza is bland as fark. I once foolishly ordered a pair of pizzas from them to see myself through an all-weekend cram session, simply because I could order over their website without having to actually talk to anyone. That's nice for a social scaredycat like myself, but the pizzas were the most boring, tasteless pizzas I've ever had. I'm not sure how you screw up pepperoni and sausage pizzas that badly, but they were practically flavorless.

That location went out of business not too long ago, and if that was typical of their quality I think I know why.
 
2013-08-13 09:49:29 PM
franchise pizza from a bobbleheaded motherfarker. that's wrong.
 
2013-08-13 09:50:01 PM
I've never had papa john's but I suspect a large part of its success is that you can buy them with an ebt card
 
2013-08-13 09:50:10 PM
The best pizza is made by Uncle Enzo.
 
2013-08-13 09:50:31 PM
Reporter sounda like a butthurt whiny out of work pretend Foody. F*ck the freellance writer trying to get hits on her Facebook and Twitter page to bolst her resume trying to get a real job.
Pappa Johns is good pizza. I don't care if they don't list their ingrediants. How many years have we gone without knowing exactly what was in foods we eat. Yet we still thought it was good.
I know it is good pizza, because I eat it, and it is good. I am a danm good cook. I know when something is good and when it isn't.
Pappa Johns is good!
Again, this out of a real job, freelance writer is just trying to get web hits to bolster her resume. But from her writting. It is easy to see why she doesn't have a real gig.
 
2013-08-13 09:50:45 PM

skinink: The best pizza is made by Uncle Enzo.


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