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2013-08-13 02:47:00 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Oh man. These crack me up. NFL teams are filled to the brim with bigger, stronger, faster, and more experienced men who were drafted primarily in rounds 1-5. The average SEC team has Smaller, weaker, slower boys, of whom MAYBE 15 will GET drafted. This is such a silly talking point. If the lowly 0-16 Lions played the top 16 college teams, they would be 16-0 with insulting point differentials. This is not an actual debate.
 
2013-08-13 02:50:32 PM  

HeadLever: That may be true, but Urban is not used to losing bowl games.  Not sure if that is going to carry over to Ohio State.


Yeah, I expect Ohio State to compete with 'em at this point. And my cracks on Ohio State and Oklahoma are mostly about that era. We'll recall what happened to Oklahoma when USC played them - 55-19 and it wasn't that close. Of course Boise State kinda provided the epic beating on that one - shouldn't have even been that epic, but Oklahoma did a decent job with the comeback.

/still mostly just bitter that we didn't have USC/SEC battles in '03 or '04 because Oklahoma had to get put into them despite being outmatched
//mainly because USC would've destroyed both LSU and Auburn
 
2013-08-13 02:51:03 PM  

HeadLever: IAmRight: Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.

That may be true, but Urban is not used to losing bowl games.  Not sure if that is going to carry over to Ohio State.  We will see what happens when these two 'forces' collide.


may the thuggiest team win
 
2013-08-13 02:55:25 PM  

Rwa2play: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

You suffer from Steve Spurrier syndrome don't you?


Which is funny cause he played on the one NFL squad that could lose to a college team
 
2013-08-13 02:56:18 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


From 1934-1976 (so, up through Super Bowl X), your theory was actually tested in a sense, with the Chicago College All-Star Game. The reigning NFL champions were pitted against a team of college all-stars every year at Soldier Field. The NFL won 31 games, the college all-stars won 9 games, and there were two ties in 1934 and 1936.

Six of the college wins came in 1950 or before, but as the level of pro football got better, the games got more slanted in favor of the pros. The last college win was in 1963. Super Bowl I was 1967. With the exception of that last win, a 20-17 victory over the Packers, the games after the second-to-last college win were an increasingly laughable exercise. The last game was called with 1:22 left in the third quarter due to heavy rain, with the Steelers up 24-0 on the all-stars.

That ended 37 years ago. Imagine what the gap is now.
 
2013-08-13 02:58:32 PM  

This Looks Fun: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Oh man. These crack me up. NFL teams are filled to the brim with bigger, stronger, faster, and more experienced men who were drafted primarily in rounds 1-5. The average SEC team has Smaller, weaker, slower boys, of whom MAYBE 15 will GET drafted. This is such a silly talking point. If the lowly 0-16 Lions played the top 16 college teams, they would be 16-0 with insulting point differentials. This is not an actual debate.


i agree that any college team would get destroyed by an nfl team, but there are some nfl teams that wouldn't... one being the 0-16 Lions, i mean they were so bad they were beating themselves much less whatever an opposing team would do, the others being the 70's bucs and post-move browns
 
2013-08-13 03:01:42 PM  

AdamK: This Looks Fun: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Oh man. These crack me up. NFL teams are filled to the brim with bigger, stronger, faster, and more experienced men who were drafted primarily in rounds 1-5. The average SEC team has Smaller, weaker, slower boys, of whom MAYBE 15 will GET drafted. This is such a silly talking point. If the lowly 0-16 Lions played the top 16 college teams, they would be 16-0 with insulting point differentials. This is not an actual debate.

i agree that any college team would get destroyed by an nfl team, but there are some nfl teams that wouldn't... one being the 0-16 Lions, i mean they were so bad they were beating themselves much less whatever an opposing team would do, the others being the 70's bucs and post-move browns


To be honest, if the 0-16 Lions would probably still find a way to lose against Wossamotta U.
 
2013-08-13 03:02:18 PM  

flak attack: AdamK: This Looks Fun: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Oh man. These crack me up. NFL teams are filled to the brim with bigger, stronger, faster, and more experienced men who were drafted primarily in rounds 1-5. The average SEC team has Smaller, weaker, slower boys, of whom MAYBE 15 will GET drafted. This is such a silly talking point. If the lowly 0-16 Lions played the top 16 college teams, they would be 16-0 with insulting point differentials. This is not an actual debate.

i agree that any college team would get destroyed by an nfl team, but there are some nfl teams that wouldn't... one being the 0-16 Lions, i mean they were so bad they were beating themselves much less whatever an opposing team would do, the others being the 70's bucs and post-move browns

To be honest,  if the 0-16 Lions would probably still find a way to lose against Wossamotta U.


ftfm
 
2013-08-13 03:03:15 PM  
Despite how much I hate both programs, I hope that OSU and Alabama play each other in the Crooked Coaches Bowl and somehow OSU wins.  Just so I don't have to keep hearing this shiat.

/would prefer if the earth opened and swallowed both of them.
 
2013-08-13 03:07:17 PM  
Besides, here's the other thing. You don't actually want that game to happen. The NFL guys, particularly the lower-level guys, are going to look at those college guys and see young bucks ready, willing and able to take their jobs and having an excellent opportunity to show teams what they can do. Who don't have the protection of a player's union or Roger Goodell behind them.

The NFL guys would thus have as their chief motivation, "so you say you want to be in the NFL, son? WELL, SAY HELLO TO THE WELCOME WAGON!" And then come the poundings.
 
2013-08-13 03:18:12 PM  

AdamK:  ...the 0-16 Lions,... were so bad they were beating themselves much less whatever an opposing team would do...


Look at this schedule:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Detroit_Lions_season#Regular_season

You're telling me that a team that averaged 17 PPG against NFL playoff  teams is going to lose to a college team? Not a college All-Star team, but an actual college team? That's pure silliness.
 
2013-08-13 03:24:15 PM  

HeadLever: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: If they want to compete with SEC teams, maybe they should schedule some games against them.

Again, that is a two way street.  Many SEC teams feel they have a difficult enough schedule that they don't want to slate any tough OC teams.  They will beat up on Central Michigan and Idaho instead.

Really resepct the SEC teams that will schedule the tough OC games though.


Some SEC OOC by the opponents (last 7 titles):

WEEK / OPPONENT
11 / Western Carolina
11 / Georgia Southern
10 / Chattanooga
11 / Chattanooga
11 / Citadel
10 / LA Tech (Good job, LSU, they're not FCS. However, you lost twice, once being to UK. FAIL.)
11 / Western Carolina

FWIW
 
2013-08-13 03:24:59 PM  

This Looks Fun: You're telling me that a team that averaged 17 PPG against NFL playoff teams is going to lose to a college team? Not a college All-Star team, but an actual college team? That's pure silliness.


The college football QB that won the most games ever in Div-1 history is the third string QB for them currently.
 
2013-08-13 03:30:39 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.
 
2013-08-13 03:32:07 PM  

funk_soul_bubby: Some SEC OOC by the opponents (last 7 titles):


But on the flipside we do get to see Bama-VT, Georgia-Clemson and LSU-TCU.  Those should be fun to watch and good on these teams for scheduling these tougher OOC teams.
 
2013-08-13 03:40:48 PM  
Ohio State? Maybe not this year. I think Stanford has the best chance of beating Alabama this year. I'd love to see that match-up.
 
2013-08-13 03:41:01 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


You are out of your goddamn mind, and it's reflective of SEC arrogance.

I wish I could find the video of Mike Golic losing his mind when Steve Spurrier suggested Alabama could beat an NFL team.
 
2013-08-13 03:51:23 PM  

HeadLever: This Looks Fun: You're telling me that a team that averaged 17 PPG against NFL playoff teams is going to lose to a college team? Not a college All-Star team, but an actual college team? That's pure silliness.

The college football QB that won the most games ever in Div-1 history is the third string QB for them currently.


Right. Off-the-cuff it seems plausible, but if you look deeper at the scenario and you think about the people involved, thinking that any college team (even SEC) has a snowball's chance in hell is drinking some magical, magical Kool-Aid.
 
2013-08-13 03:55:43 PM  
NFL vs College argument is so stupid. The game would look something like this  http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=322450197

or maybe this

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=322520052

the only way a college team would score is if they had a guy that could kick a 90 yard field goal
 
2013-08-13 03:57:24 PM  

HeadLever: funk_soul_bubby: Some SEC OOC by the opponents (last 7 titles):

But on the flipside we do get to see Bama-VT, Georgia-Clemson and LSU-TCU.  Those should be fun to watch and good on these teams for scheduling these tougher OOC teams.


Ehh, VT probably won't be great this year.  That's what I hate about the NCAA scheduling.  You have no idea how good the team you're scheduling is going to be by the time the game rolls around 5 years later.  You don't even know if their current coaching staff is going to still be there, so it's hard to even use that as a guideline.
 
2013-08-13 04:15:30 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


10/10!

Plenty of people took the bait. Well done sir!
 
2013-08-13 04:30:58 PM  

pissnmoan: Disparage the SEC all you want.  All I know is that Missouri has the worst rated batch of new recruits in the SEC.  This same group of recruits would be rated third best in the Big 12.  I don't know how this rating would be for a Big 10 comparison.  Recruit ratings aren't everything but they certainly are something.  Silk purse/sow's ear and all that.

Mizzou is going to be black and blue after this year's trip through the SEC schedule.  There really aren't many softies (besides Mizzou) in the SEC. Gonna be a long season here in Columbia.


It also doesn't help that they cannot keep the recruits they have, or they are too stupid to qualify right away.  It took Sheldon Richarson 2 years and multiple tries to get his name right on the test and get admitted long enough to play a year and then leave.

I am a die hard Mizzou fan and I agree, this is not going to be pretty this year.  If we win 2 conf games I would be shocked.  Also would help if Pinkel would stop acting like James Franklin is a QB and just put Mauk in and let him get some experience and maybe we can ready to really compete next year.
 
2013-08-13 04:36:01 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Umm no the worst nfl team wouldn't have s issue beating any sec team
 
2013-08-13 04:43:24 PM  
They might be able to compete if they started recruiting heavily out of the Deep South.
 
2013-08-13 05:00:27 PM  

IAmRight: FFS LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?


I know you're kidding, but last year Alabama put up 41, 35, 52, 40, 33, 42, 44, 38, 21, 24, 49, 49, 32, and 42 (Championship game against the "best D in the country"). Most of those games they had the second/third teamers in midway through the third quarter.
 
2013-08-13 05:13:06 PM  

bluenote13: pissnmoan: Disparage the SEC all you want.  All I know is that Missouri has the worst rated batch of new recruits in the SEC.  This same group of recruits would be rated third best in the Big 12.  I don't know how this rating would be for a Big 10 comparison.  Recruit ratings aren't everything but they certainly are something.  Silk purse/sow's ear and all that.

Mizzou is going to be black and blue after this year's trip through the SEC schedule.  There really aren't many softies (besides Mizzou) in the SEC. Gonna be a long season here in Columbia.

It also doesn't help that they cannot keep the recruits they have, or they are too stupid to qualify right away.  It took Sheldon Richarson 2 years and multiple tries to get his name right on the test and get admitted long enough to play a year and then leave.

I am a die hard Mizzou fan and I agree, this is not going to be pretty this year.  If we win 2 conf games I would be shocked.  Also would help if Pinkel would stop acting like James Franklin is a QB and just put Mauk in and let him get some experience and maybe we can ready to really compete next year.


Mizzou's gonna take their lumps for a few years, but ultimately your boys will benefit in terms of recruiting, and will be a contender.
 
2013-08-13 05:21:46 PM  
tOSU should at least be fresh for the National Championship game.  Wisconsin should at least have a pulse, but aside from that, they don't have a tough game until Michigan.  To be fair, Cal should have been a lot better than they've been.  Still, tOSU has the easiest path to the final game.
 
2013-08-13 05:29:21 PM  

MugzyBrown: My prediction for random low-level NFL vs Alabama, assuming both teams playing with full motivations:

NFL - 31
'Bama- 10


Make that:

NFL - 49
Bama - 9 (if they have a good kicker)

NFL players aren't going to be punked by a bunch of...well, punks.
 
2013-08-13 05:36:53 PM  
Alabama would not be able to compete against any NFL team.

LSU could beat any NFL team, but Alabama certainly could not.
 
2013-08-13 05:51:26 PM  

velvet_fog: Ohio State? Maybe not this year. I think Stanford has the best chance of beating Alabama this year. I'd love to see that match-up.


...with our luck, we'll get an Alabama/ND rematch and be relegated to Ohio State/Stanford in the Rose Bowl...
 
2013-08-13 05:54:18 PM  

IlGreven: velvet_fog: Ohio State? Maybe not this year. I think Stanford has the best chance of beating Alabama this year. I'd love to see that match-up.

...with our luck, we'll get an Alabama/ND rematch and be relegated to Ohio State/Stanford in the Rose Bowl...


Don't worry! Soon there will be a playoff!

/and they'll select LSU, Alabama, and Florida or Georgia, plus one team from another conference (unless ND is good)
//and this will "prove" something
 
2013-08-13 05:54:33 PM  

bborchar: MugzyBrown: My prediction for random low-level NFL vs Alabama, assuming both teams playing with full motivations:

NFL - 31
'Bama- 10

Make that:

NFL - 49
Bama - 9 (if they have a good kicker)

NFL players aren't going to be punked by a bunch of...well, punks.


Bama - 3
Mini-Ditkas - 96
Da Bears!
 
2013-08-13 07:27:00 PM  
It's hard to compete with the SEC, they have much bigger payrolls.
 
2013-08-13 07:31:07 PM  
Awwwe... how cute... teams in the SEC hype their conference rather than their own respective team.
 
2013-08-13 07:38:48 PM  

IAmRight: HeadLever: What I like is with the new playoff system, they will have to prove it.

Really hope it will expand to 8 teams, though.

It'll be nice as long as they don't try to shove 4 SEC teams into each playoff.


Once we get the real playoffs of only conference champs competing that won't be a problem.
 
2013-08-13 07:45:15 PM  

Tom_Slick: They can, they can beat Vandy, Kentucky, Miss State, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Missouri.


This year maybe.
 
2013-08-13 08:20:02 PM  
IAmRight:/and they'll select LSU, Alabama, and Florida or Georgia, plus one team from another conference (unless ND is good)
//and this will "prove" something


We have a winner.  Even the Pac-12 homers can see the coup which has taken place.

The way things stand, it will be 2 teams from the SEC, Notre Dame (for no good reason) and a sacrificial lamb "surprise team" like Louisville. That is why the SEC pushed for a playoff and conferences other than the SEC voted against any kind of playoff until they had no more choice.  SEC leaning media pushed for the playoff for years and so many suckers across the country fell into line, not realizing that this will mean that big post-season money will flow almost entirely to the SEC and the handful of other super-big teams.  If you live in the North, Midwest or West, or root for a team in a mid-level conference,how does it feel to be locked out?
 
2013-08-13 08:28:05 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Yeah, um - No. See there are a couple of hundred college teams out there, Even the worst NFL team is comprised of the top 5 or so players from all of them. The entire "they could beat an NFL team" idea is silly media hyperbole.
 
2013-08-13 08:41:03 PM  
oops, looks like another LSU player just went down with cramps...
 
2013-08-13 08:49:17 PM  

IlGreven: velvet_fog: Ohio State? Maybe not this year. I think Stanford has the best chance of beating Alabama this year. I'd love to see that match-up.

...with our luck, we'll get an Alabama/ND rematch and be relegated to Ohio State/Stanford in the Rose Bowl...


Just FYI...Oregon will be avenging their home loss in Palo Alto this year.

/back to being alone atop the north
//the beating whatever team the second rate south division sends
// NC or RB....either will work but RB is more fun.
 
2013-08-13 08:50:10 PM  

Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.


The jags might even sell out their stadium for once.
 
2013-08-13 09:19:20 PM  

T-Boy: f you live in the North, Midwest or West, or root for a team in a mid-level conference,how does it feel to be locked out?


No worse than being locked out before.  In all honesty, 4 could work if done correctly.  I'll agree that it is unlikely, though.  With 8, it would be much tougher to game the system.
 
2013-08-13 09:47:21 PM  

IAmRight: FFS

redmid17: Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.

The jags might even sell out their stadium for once.

LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?


Someone asked one of the oddsmakers in Vegas to give a hypothetical line on Alabama-Jaguars last October/November.

On a neutral field, the oddsmaker gave last year's shiatshow of a Jags team -23.5.

Only four NFL games have had opening spreads like that, and one of them was the 1976 Steelers-Buccaneers game (-27 PIT).

/2007 Eagles-Patriots (-24.5 NE), 1993 49ers-Bengals (-24 SF), and 1987 49ers-Falcons (-23.5 SF)
//only the Steelers covered their spread
 
2013-08-13 09:52:30 PM  

UNC_Samurai: IAmRight: FFS redmid17: Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.

The jags might even sell out their stadium for once.

LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?

Someone asked one of the oddsmakers in Vegas to give a hypothetical line on Alabama-Jaguars last October/November.

On a neutral field, the oddsmaker gave last year's shiatshow of a Jags team -23.5.


The only way the Jags don't beat that spread is if they start feeling guilty for the number of 21 year olds whose lives they've ruined with crippling, career ending injuries.
 
2013-08-13 10:07:03 PM  

UNC_Samurai: IAmRight: FFS redmid17: Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.

The jags might even sell out their stadium for once.

LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?

Someone asked one of the oddsmakers in Vegas to give a hypothetical line on Alabama-Jaguars last October/November.

On a neutral field, the oddsmaker gave last year's shiatshow of a Jags team -23.5.

Only four NFL games have had opening spreads like that, and one of them was the 1976 Steelers-Buccaneers game (-27 PIT).

/2007 Eagles-Patriots (-24.5 NE), 1993 49ers-Bengals (-24 SF), and 1987 49ers-Falcons (-23.5 SF)
//only the Steelers covered their spread


How did I get dragged into this post?
 
2013-08-13 10:35:29 PM  

meanmutton: UNC_Samurai: IAmRight: FFS redmid17: Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.

The jags might even sell out their stadium for once.

LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?

Someone asked one of the oddsmakers in Vegas to give a hypothetical line on Alabama-Jaguars last October/November.

On a neutral field, the oddsmaker gave last year's shiatshow of a Jags team -23.5.

The only way the Jags don't beat that spread is if they start feeling guilty for the number of 21 year olds whose lives they've ruined with crippling, career ending injuries.


No shiat! I'm putting every dime I have on the Jags.
 
2013-08-13 10:51:10 PM  
This is sad.

Kickoff is less than a month away, and we have a perfectly good thread with both the SEC and Ohio State in the header.
However, it's been up for 10 hours now and still has less than 100 posts.

Folks: I realize it's still pre-season, but it's time to dust off the cobwebs!

/ My pick this year: Georgia
/ After how last year's SEC title game ended, they're going to run wild this year.
 
2013-08-13 11:18:17 PM  

HeadLever: What I like is with the new playoff system, they will have to prove it.


Prove it how?  By winning the National Championship Game?
 
2013-08-13 11:19:42 PM  

ScreamingHangover: This is sad.

Kickoff is less than a month away, and we have a perfectly good thread with both the SEC and Ohio State in the header.
However, it's been up for 10 hours now and still has less than 100 posts.

Folks: I realize it's still pre-season, but it's time to dust off the cobwebs!

/ My pick this year: Georgia
/ After how last year's SEC title game ended, they're going to run wild this year.


UGA will never win a title with Mark Richt as head coach.
 
2013-08-13 11:33:27 PM  

Krymson Tyde: meanmutton: UNC_Samurai: IAmRight: FFS redmid17: Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

No shiat! I'm putting every dime I have on the Jags.


This could be the only time anyone says this this year without sarcasm/irony.
 
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