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2013-08-13 12:47:57 PM
They can, they can beat Vandy, Kentucky, Miss State, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Missouri.
 
2013-08-13 01:02:05 PM
Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.
 
2013-08-13 01:02:10 PM
Oh this will end well.  Regardless.......Roll Tide
 
2013-08-13 01:03:33 PM
Interestingly, the rest of the Big Ten does just fine against the SEC. OSU really brings down the league's combined record.
 
2013-08-13 01:04:09 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


No they couldn't
 
2013-08-13 01:04:31 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake
 
2013-08-13 01:06:54 PM

Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake


Not to mention, Alabama's starting 22 at any one time has maybe 10 NFL level players,and 5-7 NFL starters at any one time.

An NFL starting 22 will have.. 22 starters
 
2013-08-13 01:06:59 PM
Was not aware that Alabama had 12+ teams in the SEC.

Subby fail = fifteen yards for unintelligent-like conduct.
 
2013-08-13 01:07:40 PM

Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake


I never said they would win...I know they would not.  I just think they could huff it out there better than most people think.

Frankly, I'd love to see that put to the test.  Alabama vs. the NFL team with the worst record from last season.  One half of play time only, standard rules apply.
 
2013-08-13 01:07:56 PM
This rings a bell.  Wasn't this the same type of hype we heard about ND before the title game?

Let me check how that game turned out.
 
2013-08-13 01:07:58 PM
Ohio State: SEC tactics in the Big Ten
 
2013-08-13 01:14:15 PM
All I know is that when Ohio State plays Florida again - especially if it's in the swamp - I'm clearing my schedule to watch it.
 
2013-08-13 01:15:27 PM
FFS LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?
 
2013-08-13 01:16:19 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


HaHaOhWow.jpeg.

At least THE OSU is catching up to the SEC in NCAA violations.
 
2013-08-13 01:16:51 PM
Just when you think some troll bait headline couldn't make a thread any more stupid, you get the "SEC vs. NFL" brand of idiocy.
 
2013-08-13 01:18:06 PM
My prediction for random low-level NFL vs Alabama, assuming both teams playing with full motivations:

NFL - 31
'Bama- 10
 
2013-08-13 01:18:45 PM
SEC teams are not unbeatable.  just ask Boise or Utah.

The SEC is very tough to beat in the NC game, however.
 
2013-08-13 01:22:22 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake

I never said they would win...I know they would not.  I just think they could huff it out there better than most people think.

Frankly, I'd love to see that put to the test.  Alabama vs. the NFL team with the worst record from last season.  One half of play time only, standard rules apply.


The college team would not move the ball at all and would turn it over on most passing plays.  Pro defenders are FAST and smart, a college QB who hasn't faced a pro defense has zero chance, his passes will never get there fast enough.
 
2013-08-13 01:22:24 PM

MugzyBrown: My prediction for random low-level NFL vs Alabama, assuming both teams playing with full motivations:

NFL - 31
'Bama- 10


I think your spread is too low.
 
2013-08-13 01:23:01 PM
Unless you're talking the 0-16 Lions or TB original team, any college team would lose badly. And even then the pro team would still be a 7pt favorite
 
2013-08-13 01:24:38 PM

MugzyBrown: Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake

Not to mention, Alabama's starting 22 at any one time has maybe 10 NFL level players,and 5-7 NFL starters at any one time.

An NFL starting 22 will have.. 22 starters


You are assuming it's not the Browns.
 
2013-08-13 01:29:23 PM

Cataholic: MugzyBrown: Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake

Not to mention, Alabama's starting 22 at any one time has maybe 10 NFL level players,and 5-7 NFL starters at any one time.

An NFL starting 22 will have.. 22 starters

You are assuming it's not the Browns.


Even the Browns would biatch slap the best college football team.
 
2013-08-13 01:30:53 PM
If they want to compete with SEC teams, maybe they should schedule some games against them.

As is, Ohio State is ducking the SEC, just like Notre Dame.
 
2013-08-13 01:32:22 PM

HeadLever: The SEC is very tough to beat in the NC game, however.


Helps when the last time someone from another conference was allowed in was 3 years ago. Of course, LSU beat Oregon in a closer game than they had against pretty much anyone in the SEC that year. The year before, Alabama struggled to close out a team that lost its starting QB five plays into the game and was playing a freshman. Then you get into the Chokelahoma/Ohio State years (one of which the Buckeyes lost their most explosive player immediately following the first play of the game).
 
2013-08-13 01:37:23 PM

IAmRight: Helps when the last time someone from another conference was allowed in was 3 years ago.


Yeah, I hate the SEC as much as anyone, but you have to admit that they do play well enough to win once they get in.  What I like is with the new playoff system, they will have to prove it.

Really hope it will expand to 8 teams, though.
 
2013-08-13 01:39:38 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


This meme needs to go away.  The very best college football teams would not be able to compete with the worst NFL teams.  I have talked to officials that worked NCAA Div-I games, and have now moved to NFL games.  They assured me the difference in the speed of the game on the field is unbelievable.

/Remember, the worst NFL teams are still made up of the top athletes from the NCAA.
 
2013-08-13 01:39:40 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: If they want to compete with SEC teams, maybe they should schedule some games against them.


Again, that is a two way street.  Many SEC teams feel they have a difficult enough schedule that they don't want to slate any tough OC teams.  They will beat up on Central Michigan and Idaho instead.

Really resepct the SEC teams that will schedule the tough OC games though.
 
2013-08-13 01:45:56 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Never gets old.
 
2013-08-13 01:52:08 PM

HeadLever: What I like is with the new playoff system, they will have to prove it.

Really hope it will expand to 8 teams, though.


It'll be nice as long as they don't try to shove 4 SEC teams into each playoff.
 
2013-08-13 01:52:44 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


You suffer from Steve Spurrier syndrome don't you?
 
2013-08-13 01:54:18 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake

I never said they would win...I know they would not.  I just think they could huff it out there better than most people think.

Frankly, I'd love to see that put to the test.  Alabama vs. the NFL team with the worst record from last season.  One half of play time only, standard rules apply.


Uh, for the record, the Chiefs had the worst season....and sent 6 players to the Pro Bowl.  So, good luck with that.
 
2013-08-13 01:57:20 PM

chuggernaught: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

This meme needs to go away.  The very best college football teams would not be able to compete with the worst NFL teams.  I have talked to officials that worked NCAA Div-I games, and have now moved to NFL games.  They assured me the difference in the speed of the game on the field is unbelievable.

/Remember, the worst NFL teams are still made up of the top athletes from the NCAA.


Except the Eagles...they are more of a discount based team.
 
2013-08-13 01:57:26 PM

Tom_Slick: They can, they can beat Vandy, Kentucky, Miss State, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Missouri.


Which equates to Northwestern, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa, Purdue, and Penn State.
 
2013-08-13 01:59:18 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Stick to the Wrestling threads.
 
2013-08-13 01:59:52 PM
Disparage the SEC all you want.  All I know is that Missouri has the worst rated batch of new recruits in the SEC.  This same group of recruits would be rated third best in the Big 12.  I don't know how this rating would be for a Big 10 comparison.  Recruit ratings aren't everything but they certainly are something.  Silk purse/sow's ear and all that.

Mizzou is going to be black and blue after this year's trip through the SEC schedule.  There really aren't many softies (besides Mizzou) in the SEC. Gonna be a long season here in Columbia.
 
2013-08-13 02:01:52 PM

pissnmoan: All I know is that Missouri has the worst rated batch of new recruits in the SEC.


Largely because "being recruited by a team in the SEC" is worth at least a star to a lot of rankings.
 
2013-08-13 02:13:01 PM

IAmRight: HeadLever: The SEC is very tough to beat in the NC game, however.

Helps when the last time someone from another conference was allowed in was 3 years ago. Of course, LSU beat Oregon in a closer game than they had against pretty much anyone in the SEC that year. The year before, Alabama struggled to close out a team that lost its starting QB five plays into the game and was playing a freshman. Then you get into the Chokelahoma/Ohio State years (one of which the Buckeyes lost their most explosive player immediately following the first play of the game).


It's cute how you try and dodge the shiat stomping put on Notre Dame by saying "another conference" instead of "a non-SEC team".  It's also quite a statement to say Alabama struggled against Texas in a game where they led from 3:24 in the second to the end of the game.  Then, in the 2007 game over Ohio St, it was Roy Hall that took out Ted Ginn, not a Florida player.

The fact is, excluding the 2012 SEC-SEC game, the SEC has won every NCG since 2007 by an average of over 16 points.  If you take that to all SEC games (again, excluding 2012), it's still an average of 14 points.  They have never been behind in a NCG in the second half and have only twice been tied at any point in the second half of a NCG.  That sounds like "very tough to beat" to me.
 
2013-08-13 02:13:36 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The college team would not move the ball at all and would turn it over on most passing plays.  Pro defenders are FAST and smart, a college QB who hasn't faced a pro defense has zero chance, his passes will never get there fast enough.


I think the one thing that may subversively work against the pros for maybe a series or two is their speed advantage.  I could see pro defensive backs committing penalties because they're anticipating a pass with a little more zip and a receiver with a tighter route.  Then they would adjust, and that would be that.
 
2013-08-13 02:20:10 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Are drugs legal where you reside?
 
2013-08-13 02:22:14 PM
Didn't tOSU beat an SEC team in the Sugar Bowl not so long ago?
 
2013-08-13 02:26:35 PM
I recall us beating Wisconsin en route to a perfect regular season, and Northwestern being in the Big Ten is a joke. As for Michigan, I recall three years ago when their kicked missed a 26-yard FG. I think a t-shirt cannon could've made that one.
 
2013-08-13 02:27:21 PM

IlGreven: Tom_Slick: They can, they can beat Vandy, Kentucky, Miss State, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Missouri.

Which equates to Northwestern, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa, Purdue, and Penn State.


How do you not put Illinois on the list of the Big Ten bottom?

No points are given for your retort.
 
2013-08-13 02:27:47 PM

srhp29: Didn't tOSU beat an SEC team in the Sugar Bowl not so long ago?


2010 over Arkansas.  Looking at wikipedia (here  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ohio_State_Buckeyes_football_sea s ons), it looks like Ohio State doesn't actually claim that win, after they self imposed a vacating of the 2010 season.  It's also their only post season win ever over an SEC team, bringing their record up to 1-9.
 
2013-08-13 02:31:34 PM

flak attack: It's also quite a statement to say Alabama struggled against Texas in a game where they led from 3:24 in the second to the end of the game.


I said struggled to put away, which isn't wrong for a game that was a 3-point game in the fourth quarter.

flak attack: That sounds like "very tough to beat" to me.


Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.
 
2013-08-13 02:36:57 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


The worst NFL teams are so much better than the best NCAA teams that "serious points" means "anything more than zero".

LSU and Alabama have 20 year old starters who will NEVER play in the NFL. The Jaguars have backups who are as good as starters for Bama at nearly every position.
 
2013-08-13 02:37:09 PM

IAmRight: Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.


Ohio State has a 6*-3 record in BCS bowl games.
 
2013-08-13 02:38:53 PM

MugzyBrown: My prediction for random low-level NFL vs Alabama, assuming both teams playing with full motivations:

NFL - 31
'Bama- 10


Only if that is 10 career ending injuries for Alabama.
 
2013-08-13 02:41:38 PM

IAmRight: flak attack: It's also quite a statement to say Alabama struggled against Texas in a game where they led from 3:24 in the second to the end of the game.

I said struggled to put away, which isn't wrong for a game that was a 3-point game in the fourth quarter.

flak attack: That sounds like "very tough to beat" to me.

Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.


Since 1995, Ohio State is 8-8 in bowl games, 7-2 against non-SEC teams.  Oklahoma is 7-7, 6-4 against non-SEC teams.  Oklahoma is decent, but it looks to me like almost only SEC teams (and Texas and FSU) beat Ohio St in bowl games in recent years.
 
2013-08-13 02:42:57 PM

IAmRight: Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.


That may be true, but Urban is not used to losing bowl games.  Not sure if that is going to carry over to Ohio State.  We will see what happens when these two 'forces' collide.
 
2013-08-13 02:45:36 PM

HeadLever: IAmRight: Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.

That may be true, but Urban is not used to losing bowl games.  Not sure if that is going to carry over to Ohio State.  We will see what happens when these two 'forces' collide.


Urban Meyer is not used to losing games, period. That has carried over to Ohio State quite well so far.
 
2013-08-13 02:47:00 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Oh man. These crack me up. NFL teams are filled to the brim with bigger, stronger, faster, and more experienced men who were drafted primarily in rounds 1-5. The average SEC team has Smaller, weaker, slower boys, of whom MAYBE 15 will GET drafted. This is such a silly talking point. If the lowly 0-16 Lions played the top 16 college teams, they would be 16-0 with insulting point differentials. This is not an actual debate.
 
2013-08-13 02:50:32 PM

HeadLever: That may be true, but Urban is not used to losing bowl games.  Not sure if that is going to carry over to Ohio State.


Yeah, I expect Ohio State to compete with 'em at this point. And my cracks on Ohio State and Oklahoma are mostly about that era. We'll recall what happened to Oklahoma when USC played them - 55-19 and it wasn't that close. Of course Boise State kinda provided the epic beating on that one - shouldn't have even been that epic, but Oklahoma did a decent job with the comeback.

/still mostly just bitter that we didn't have USC/SEC battles in '03 or '04 because Oklahoma had to get put into them despite being outmatched
//mainly because USC would've destroyed both LSU and Auburn
 
2013-08-13 02:51:03 PM

HeadLever: IAmRight: Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.

That may be true, but Urban is not used to losing bowl games.  Not sure if that is going to carry over to Ohio State.  We will see what happens when these two 'forces' collide.


may the thuggiest team win
 
2013-08-13 02:55:25 PM

Rwa2play: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

You suffer from Steve Spurrier syndrome don't you?


Which is funny cause he played on the one NFL squad that could lose to a college team
 
2013-08-13 02:56:18 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


From 1934-1976 (so, up through Super Bowl X), your theory was actually tested in a sense, with the Chicago College All-Star Game. The reigning NFL champions were pitted against a team of college all-stars every year at Soldier Field. The NFL won 31 games, the college all-stars won 9 games, and there were two ties in 1934 and 1936.

Six of the college wins came in 1950 or before, but as the level of pro football got better, the games got more slanted in favor of the pros. The last college win was in 1963. Super Bowl I was 1967. With the exception of that last win, a 20-17 victory over the Packers, the games after the second-to-last college win were an increasingly laughable exercise. The last game was called with 1:22 left in the third quarter due to heavy rain, with the Steelers up 24-0 on the all-stars.

That ended 37 years ago. Imagine what the gap is now.
 
2013-08-13 02:58:32 PM

This Looks Fun: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Oh man. These crack me up. NFL teams are filled to the brim with bigger, stronger, faster, and more experienced men who were drafted primarily in rounds 1-5. The average SEC team has Smaller, weaker, slower boys, of whom MAYBE 15 will GET drafted. This is such a silly talking point. If the lowly 0-16 Lions played the top 16 college teams, they would be 16-0 with insulting point differentials. This is not an actual debate.


i agree that any college team would get destroyed by an nfl team, but there are some nfl teams that wouldn't... one being the 0-16 Lions, i mean they were so bad they were beating themselves much less whatever an opposing team would do, the others being the 70's bucs and post-move browns
 
2013-08-13 03:01:42 PM

AdamK: This Looks Fun: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Oh man. These crack me up. NFL teams are filled to the brim with bigger, stronger, faster, and more experienced men who were drafted primarily in rounds 1-5. The average SEC team has Smaller, weaker, slower boys, of whom MAYBE 15 will GET drafted. This is such a silly talking point. If the lowly 0-16 Lions played the top 16 college teams, they would be 16-0 with insulting point differentials. This is not an actual debate.

i agree that any college team would get destroyed by an nfl team, but there are some nfl teams that wouldn't... one being the 0-16 Lions, i mean they were so bad they were beating themselves much less whatever an opposing team would do, the others being the 70's bucs and post-move browns


To be honest, if the 0-16 Lions would probably still find a way to lose against Wossamotta U.
 
2013-08-13 03:02:18 PM

flak attack: AdamK: This Looks Fun: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Oh man. These crack me up. NFL teams are filled to the brim with bigger, stronger, faster, and more experienced men who were drafted primarily in rounds 1-5. The average SEC team has Smaller, weaker, slower boys, of whom MAYBE 15 will GET drafted. This is such a silly talking point. If the lowly 0-16 Lions played the top 16 college teams, they would be 16-0 with insulting point differentials. This is not an actual debate.

i agree that any college team would get destroyed by an nfl team, but there are some nfl teams that wouldn't... one being the 0-16 Lions, i mean they were so bad they were beating themselves much less whatever an opposing team would do, the others being the 70's bucs and post-move browns

To be honest,  if the 0-16 Lions would probably still find a way to lose against Wossamotta U.


ftfm
 
2013-08-13 03:03:15 PM
Despite how much I hate both programs, I hope that OSU and Alabama play each other in the Crooked Coaches Bowl and somehow OSU wins.  Just so I don't have to keep hearing this shiat.

/would prefer if the earth opened and swallowed both of them.
 
2013-08-13 03:07:17 PM
Besides, here's the other thing. You don't actually want that game to happen. The NFL guys, particularly the lower-level guys, are going to look at those college guys and see young bucks ready, willing and able to take their jobs and having an excellent opportunity to show teams what they can do. Who don't have the protection of a player's union or Roger Goodell behind them.

The NFL guys would thus have as their chief motivation, "so you say you want to be in the NFL, son? WELL, SAY HELLO TO THE WELCOME WAGON!" And then come the poundings.
 
2013-08-13 03:18:12 PM

AdamK:  ...the 0-16 Lions,... were so bad they were beating themselves much less whatever an opposing team would do...


Look at this schedule:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Detroit_Lions_season#Regular_season

You're telling me that a team that averaged 17 PPG against NFL playoff  teams is going to lose to a college team? Not a college All-Star team, but an actual college team? That's pure silliness.
 
2013-08-13 03:24:15 PM

HeadLever: DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: If they want to compete with SEC teams, maybe they should schedule some games against them.

Again, that is a two way street.  Many SEC teams feel they have a difficult enough schedule that they don't want to slate any tough OC teams.  They will beat up on Central Michigan and Idaho instead.

Really resepct the SEC teams that will schedule the tough OC games though.


Some SEC OOC by the opponents (last 7 titles):

WEEK / OPPONENT
11 / Western Carolina
11 / Georgia Southern
10 / Chattanooga
11 / Chattanooga
11 / Citadel
10 / LA Tech (Good job, LSU, they're not FCS. However, you lost twice, once being to UK. FAIL.)
11 / Western Carolina

FWIW
 
2013-08-13 03:24:59 PM

This Looks Fun: You're telling me that a team that averaged 17 PPG against NFL playoff teams is going to lose to a college team? Not a college All-Star team, but an actual college team? That's pure silliness.


The college football QB that won the most games ever in Div-1 history is the third string QB for them currently.
 
2013-08-13 03:30:39 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.
 
2013-08-13 03:32:07 PM

funk_soul_bubby: Some SEC OOC by the opponents (last 7 titles):


But on the flipside we do get to see Bama-VT, Georgia-Clemson and LSU-TCU.  Those should be fun to watch and good on these teams for scheduling these tougher OOC teams.
 
2013-08-13 03:40:48 PM
Ohio State? Maybe not this year. I think Stanford has the best chance of beating Alabama this year. I'd love to see that match-up.
 
2013-08-13 03:41:01 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


You are out of your goddamn mind, and it's reflective of SEC arrogance.

I wish I could find the video of Mike Golic losing his mind when Steve Spurrier suggested Alabama could beat an NFL team.
 
2013-08-13 03:51:23 PM

HeadLever: This Looks Fun: You're telling me that a team that averaged 17 PPG against NFL playoff teams is going to lose to a college team? Not a college All-Star team, but an actual college team? That's pure silliness.

The college football QB that won the most games ever in Div-1 history is the third string QB for them currently.


Right. Off-the-cuff it seems plausible, but if you look deeper at the scenario and you think about the people involved, thinking that any college team (even SEC) has a snowball's chance in hell is drinking some magical, magical Kool-Aid.
 
2013-08-13 03:55:43 PM
NFL vs College argument is so stupid. The game would look something like this  http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=322450197

or maybe this

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=322520052

the only way a college team would score is if they had a guy that could kick a 90 yard field goal
 
2013-08-13 03:57:24 PM

HeadLever: funk_soul_bubby: Some SEC OOC by the opponents (last 7 titles):

But on the flipside we do get to see Bama-VT, Georgia-Clemson and LSU-TCU.  Those should be fun to watch and good on these teams for scheduling these tougher OOC teams.


Ehh, VT probably won't be great this year.  That's what I hate about the NCAA scheduling.  You have no idea how good the team you're scheduling is going to be by the time the game rolls around 5 years later.  You don't even know if their current coaching staff is going to still be there, so it's hard to even use that as a guideline.
 
2013-08-13 04:15:30 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


10/10!

Plenty of people took the bait. Well done sir!
 
2013-08-13 04:30:58 PM

pissnmoan: Disparage the SEC all you want.  All I know is that Missouri has the worst rated batch of new recruits in the SEC.  This same group of recruits would be rated third best in the Big 12.  I don't know how this rating would be for a Big 10 comparison.  Recruit ratings aren't everything but they certainly are something.  Silk purse/sow's ear and all that.

Mizzou is going to be black and blue after this year's trip through the SEC schedule.  There really aren't many softies (besides Mizzou) in the SEC. Gonna be a long season here in Columbia.


It also doesn't help that they cannot keep the recruits they have, or they are too stupid to qualify right away.  It took Sheldon Richarson 2 years and multiple tries to get his name right on the test and get admitted long enough to play a year and then leave.

I am a die hard Mizzou fan and I agree, this is not going to be pretty this year.  If we win 2 conf games I would be shocked.  Also would help if Pinkel would stop acting like James Franklin is a QB and just put Mauk in and let him get some experience and maybe we can ready to really compete next year.
 
2013-08-13 04:36:01 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Umm no the worst nfl team wouldn't have s issue beating any sec team
 
2013-08-13 04:43:24 PM
They might be able to compete if they started recruiting heavily out of the Deep South.
 
2013-08-13 05:00:27 PM

IAmRight: FFS LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?


I know you're kidding, but last year Alabama put up 41, 35, 52, 40, 33, 42, 44, 38, 21, 24, 49, 49, 32, and 42 (Championship game against the "best D in the country"). Most of those games they had the second/third teamers in midway through the third quarter.
 
2013-08-13 05:13:06 PM

bluenote13: pissnmoan: Disparage the SEC all you want.  All I know is that Missouri has the worst rated batch of new recruits in the SEC.  This same group of recruits would be rated third best in the Big 12.  I don't know how this rating would be for a Big 10 comparison.  Recruit ratings aren't everything but they certainly are something.  Silk purse/sow's ear and all that.

Mizzou is going to be black and blue after this year's trip through the SEC schedule.  There really aren't many softies (besides Mizzou) in the SEC. Gonna be a long season here in Columbia.

It also doesn't help that they cannot keep the recruits they have, or they are too stupid to qualify right away.  It took Sheldon Richarson 2 years and multiple tries to get his name right on the test and get admitted long enough to play a year and then leave.

I am a die hard Mizzou fan and I agree, this is not going to be pretty this year.  If we win 2 conf games I would be shocked.  Also would help if Pinkel would stop acting like James Franklin is a QB and just put Mauk in and let him get some experience and maybe we can ready to really compete next year.


Mizzou's gonna take their lumps for a few years, but ultimately your boys will benefit in terms of recruiting, and will be a contender.
 
2013-08-13 05:21:46 PM
tOSU should at least be fresh for the National Championship game.  Wisconsin should at least have a pulse, but aside from that, they don't have a tough game until Michigan.  To be fair, Cal should have been a lot better than they've been.  Still, tOSU has the easiest path to the final game.
 
2013-08-13 05:29:21 PM

MugzyBrown: My prediction for random low-level NFL vs Alabama, assuming both teams playing with full motivations:

NFL - 31
'Bama- 10


Make that:

NFL - 49
Bama - 9 (if they have a good kicker)

NFL players aren't going to be punked by a bunch of...well, punks.
 
2013-08-13 05:36:53 PM
Alabama would not be able to compete against any NFL team.

LSU could beat any NFL team, but Alabama certainly could not.
 
2013-08-13 05:51:26 PM

velvet_fog: Ohio State? Maybe not this year. I think Stanford has the best chance of beating Alabama this year. I'd love to see that match-up.


...with our luck, we'll get an Alabama/ND rematch and be relegated to Ohio State/Stanford in the Rose Bowl...
 
2013-08-13 05:54:18 PM

IlGreven: velvet_fog: Ohio State? Maybe not this year. I think Stanford has the best chance of beating Alabama this year. I'd love to see that match-up.

...with our luck, we'll get an Alabama/ND rematch and be relegated to Ohio State/Stanford in the Rose Bowl...


Don't worry! Soon there will be a playoff!

/and they'll select LSU, Alabama, and Florida or Georgia, plus one team from another conference (unless ND is good)
//and this will "prove" something
 
2013-08-13 05:54:33 PM

bborchar: MugzyBrown: My prediction for random low-level NFL vs Alabama, assuming both teams playing with full motivations:

NFL - 31
'Bama- 10

Make that:

NFL - 49
Bama - 9 (if they have a good kicker)

NFL players aren't going to be punked by a bunch of...well, punks.


Bama - 3
Mini-Ditkas - 96
Da Bears!
 
2013-08-13 07:27:00 PM
It's hard to compete with the SEC, they have much bigger payrolls.
 
2013-08-13 07:31:07 PM
Awwwe... how cute... teams in the SEC hype their conference rather than their own respective team.
 
2013-08-13 07:38:48 PM

IAmRight: HeadLever: What I like is with the new playoff system, they will have to prove it.

Really hope it will expand to 8 teams, though.

It'll be nice as long as they don't try to shove 4 SEC teams into each playoff.


Once we get the real playoffs of only conference champs competing that won't be a problem.
 
2013-08-13 07:45:15 PM

Tom_Slick: They can, they can beat Vandy, Kentucky, Miss State, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Missouri.


This year maybe.
 
2013-08-13 08:20:02 PM
IAmRight:/and they'll select LSU, Alabama, and Florida or Georgia, plus one team from another conference (unless ND is good)
//and this will "prove" something


We have a winner.  Even the Pac-12 homers can see the coup which has taken place.

The way things stand, it will be 2 teams from the SEC, Notre Dame (for no good reason) and a sacrificial lamb "surprise team" like Louisville. That is why the SEC pushed for a playoff and conferences other than the SEC voted against any kind of playoff until they had no more choice.  SEC leaning media pushed for the playoff for years and so many suckers across the country fell into line, not realizing that this will mean that big post-season money will flow almost entirely to the SEC and the handful of other super-big teams.  If you live in the North, Midwest or West, or root for a team in a mid-level conference,how does it feel to be locked out?
 
2013-08-13 08:28:05 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Yeah, um - No. See there are a couple of hundred college teams out there, Even the worst NFL team is comprised of the top 5 or so players from all of them. The entire "they could beat an NFL team" idea is silly media hyperbole.
 
2013-08-13 08:41:03 PM
oops, looks like another LSU player just went down with cramps...
 
2013-08-13 08:49:17 PM

IlGreven: velvet_fog: Ohio State? Maybe not this year. I think Stanford has the best chance of beating Alabama this year. I'd love to see that match-up.

...with our luck, we'll get an Alabama/ND rematch and be relegated to Ohio State/Stanford in the Rose Bowl...


Just FYI...Oregon will be avenging their home loss in Palo Alto this year.

/back to being alone atop the north
//the beating whatever team the second rate south division sends
// NC or RB....either will work but RB is more fun.
 
2013-08-13 08:50:10 PM

Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.


The jags might even sell out their stadium for once.
 
2013-08-13 09:19:20 PM

T-Boy: f you live in the North, Midwest or West, or root for a team in a mid-level conference,how does it feel to be locked out?


No worse than being locked out before.  In all honesty, 4 could work if done correctly.  I'll agree that it is unlikely, though.  With 8, it would be much tougher to game the system.
 
2013-08-13 09:47:21 PM

IAmRight: FFS

redmid17: Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.

The jags might even sell out their stadium for once.

LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?


Someone asked one of the oddsmakers in Vegas to give a hypothetical line on Alabama-Jaguars last October/November.

On a neutral field, the oddsmaker gave last year's shiatshow of a Jags team -23.5.

Only four NFL games have had opening spreads like that, and one of them was the 1976 Steelers-Buccaneers game (-27 PIT).

/2007 Eagles-Patriots (-24.5 NE), 1993 49ers-Bengals (-24 SF), and 1987 49ers-Falcons (-23.5 SF)
//only the Steelers covered their spread
 
2013-08-13 09:52:30 PM

UNC_Samurai: IAmRight: FFS redmid17: Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.

The jags might even sell out their stadium for once.

LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?

Someone asked one of the oddsmakers in Vegas to give a hypothetical line on Alabama-Jaguars last October/November.

On a neutral field, the oddsmaker gave last year's shiatshow of a Jags team -23.5.


The only way the Jags don't beat that spread is if they start feeling guilty for the number of 21 year olds whose lives they've ruined with crippling, career ending injuries.
 
2013-08-13 10:07:03 PM

UNC_Samurai: IAmRight: FFS redmid17: Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.

The jags might even sell out their stadium for once.

LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?

Someone asked one of the oddsmakers in Vegas to give a hypothetical line on Alabama-Jaguars last October/November.

On a neutral field, the oddsmaker gave last year's shiatshow of a Jags team -23.5.

Only four NFL games have had opening spreads like that, and one of them was the 1976 Steelers-Buccaneers game (-27 PIT).

/2007 Eagles-Patriots (-24.5 NE), 1993 49ers-Bengals (-24 SF), and 1987 49ers-Falcons (-23.5 SF)
//only the Steelers covered their spread


How did I get dragged into this post?
 
2013-08-13 10:35:29 PM

meanmutton: UNC_Samurai: IAmRight: FFS redmid17: Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not even a field goal.  Jacksonville would destroy LSU/Bama.

The jags might even sell out their stadium for once.

LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?

Someone asked one of the oddsmakers in Vegas to give a hypothetical line on Alabama-Jaguars last October/November.

On a neutral field, the oddsmaker gave last year's shiatshow of a Jags team -23.5.

The only way the Jags don't beat that spread is if they start feeling guilty for the number of 21 year olds whose lives they've ruined with crippling, career ending injuries.


No shiat! I'm putting every dime I have on the Jags.
 
2013-08-13 10:51:10 PM
This is sad.

Kickoff is less than a month away, and we have a perfectly good thread with both the SEC and Ohio State in the header.
However, it's been up for 10 hours now and still has less than 100 posts.

Folks: I realize it's still pre-season, but it's time to dust off the cobwebs!

/ My pick this year: Georgia
/ After how last year's SEC title game ended, they're going to run wild this year.
 
2013-08-13 11:18:17 PM

HeadLever: What I like is with the new playoff system, they will have to prove it.


Prove it how?  By winning the National Championship Game?
 
2013-08-13 11:19:42 PM

ScreamingHangover: This is sad.

Kickoff is less than a month away, and we have a perfectly good thread with both the SEC and Ohio State in the header.
However, it's been up for 10 hours now and still has less than 100 posts.

Folks: I realize it's still pre-season, but it's time to dust off the cobwebs!

/ My pick this year: Georgia
/ After how last year's SEC title game ended, they're going to run wild this year.


UGA will never win a title with Mark Richt as head coach.
 
2013-08-13 11:33:27 PM

Krymson Tyde: meanmutton: UNC_Samurai: IAmRight: FFS redmid17: Wadded Beef: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

No shiat! I'm putting every dime I have on the Jags.


This could be the only time anyone says this this year without sarcasm/irony.
 
2013-08-13 11:33:35 PM
Oh yeah, the SEC, where Alabama has to play this ridiculously hard schedule:

08/31/13 vs. Virginia Tech Atlanta, Ga. 4:30 p.m. CT UNRANKED
09/14/13 at Texas A&M * College Station, Texas 2:30 p.m. CT #6
09/21/13 vs. Colorado State Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
09/28/13 vs. Ole Miss *Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
10/05/13 vs. Georgia State Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
10/12/13 at Kentucky *Lexington, Ky. TBA UNRANKED
10/19/13 vs. Arkansas *Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
10/26/13 vs. Tennessee *Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
11/09/13 vs. LSU *Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA #13
11/16/13 at Mississippi State *Starkville, Miss. TBA UNRANKED
11/23/13 vs. Chattanooga Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
11/30/13 at Auburn *Auburn, Ala. TBA UNRANKED

Wow, that schedule is sooooo hard. Typical SEC team- schedule a shiat schedule and then proclaim you're the best when you beat farking Chattanooga by 60. GFY.
 
2013-08-13 11:37:18 PM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Wow, that schedule is sooooo hard. Typical SEC team- schedule a shiat schedule and then proclaim you're the best when you beat farking Chattanooga by 60. GFY.


Yeah, it's totally Alabama's fault that Virginia Tech is unranked.  Seriously, get a new meme.
 
2013-08-13 11:38:13 PM

pissnmoan: There really aren't many softies (besides Mizzou) in the SEC.


Did Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Auburn all leave the SEC?
 
2013-08-13 11:44:57 PM

flak attack: UGA will never win a title with Mark Richt as head coach.


I had a similar view until last year's SEC Championship.
That seriously changed my opinion of him.
 
2013-08-13 11:47:53 PM

Mentat: Prove it how?  By winning the National Championship Game?


Only if they win the semifinal game first.  It opens up the ability of other teams to win the NC that would have no shot in the BCS System.
 
2013-08-13 11:50:13 PM

Mentat: Your Average Witty Fark User: Wow, that schedule is sooooo hard. Typical SEC team- schedule a shiat schedule and then proclaim you're the best when you beat farking Chattanooga by 60. GFY.

Yeah, it's totally Alabama's fault that Virginia Tech is unranked.  Seriously, get a new meme.


And you know by the end of the season at least 4 of those unranked teams are going to be ranked.
 
2013-08-14 02:21:28 AM

HeadLever: Only if they win the semifinal game first.


Oh, you mean the SEC Championship Game?
 
2013-08-14 02:29:39 AM

T-Boy: The way things stand, it will be 2 teams from the SEC, Notre Dame (for no good reason) and a sacrificial lamb "surprise team" like Louisville. That is why the SEC pushed for a playoff and conferences other than the SEC voted against any kind of playoff until they had no more choice. SEC leaning media pushed for the playoff for years and so many suckers across the country fell into line, not realizing that this will mean that big post-season money will flow almost entirely to the SEC and the handful of other super-big teams. If you live in the North, Midwest or West, or root for a team in a mid-level conference,how does it feel to be locked out?


About the same as Norwegian soccer fans did when Rosenborg was winning 15 straight league titles, running from 1990-2004.

Their response? A lot of them just stopped watching. They gave up. It was a foregone conclusion and not any fun anymore. Those who stuck around just started wearing neutral colors, colors that no club was using, and rooting for anyone to win that wasn't Rosenborg. It didn't even matter if it was their own club's biggest rival. Just as long as Rosenborg lost.

The second Rosenborg lost, fans were back in the seats in droves.
 
2013-08-14 05:54:53 AM

redmid17: How did I get dragged into this post?


Yeah, there's a post or two that are completely missing from last night.  No idea why, I didn't see anything worth deleting.
 
2013-08-14 08:33:35 AM

Your Average Witty Fark User: Oh yeah, the SEC, where Alabama has to play this ridiculously hard schedule:

08/31/13 vs. Virginia Tech Atlanta, Ga. 4:30 p.m. CT UNRANKED
09/14/13 at Texas A&M * College Station, Texas 2:30 p.m. CT #6
09/21/13 vs. Colorado State Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
09/28/13 vs. Ole Miss *Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
10/05/13 vs. Georgia State Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
10/12/13 at Kentucky *Lexington, Ky. TBA UNRANKED
10/19/13 vs. Arkansas *Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
10/26/13 vs. Tennessee *Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
11/09/13 vs. LSU *Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA #13
11/16/13 at Mississippi State *Starkville, Miss. TBA UNRANKED
11/23/13 vs. Chattanooga Tuscaloosa, Ala. TBA UNRANKED
11/30/13 at Auburn *Auburn, Ala. TBA UNRANKED

Wow, that schedule is sooooo hard. Typical SEC team- schedule a shiat schedule and then proclaim you're the best when you beat farking Chattanooga by 60. GFY.


Those are the preseason rankings, which mean nothing.  I would bet by the end of the season they will have played at least 4 teams ranked at the time of the game.  Also, they have no control over the SEC schedule.  It rotates every year and this year happens to be the year they miss South Carolina, Florida and Georgia.  While you can argue about the non-conference schedule being very weak, they had no idea when they scheduled Virginia Tech 4-5 years ago that they would be unranked this year.  One other thing, I am not an ALA apologist but the SEC's scheduling where they give teams off weeks in October and November causes part of this.  Other teams are knee deep in their conference schedules by October so the number of teams ALA can schedule on Nov 23 is pretty limited.  This is one of the reasons the SEC is going to a 9 game conference schedule in a couple years.
 
2013-08-14 09:52:04 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


No. You're telling me that a team of 18-22 year olds in top physical shape has a shot against a team of 23-28 year olds in top physical shape?

Outside of the fact that the starting talent pool for the NFL is bigger, the players are in the peak years of their life physically and the number of roster spots is smaller.

A terrible NFL team would destroy a college team.
 
2013-08-14 10:45:12 AM

Mentat: Oh, you mean the SEC Championship Game?


Are you unaware of the new system being enacted?  The new playoff format will take place after all confrence championship games.  This includes the SEC Championship Game.
 
2013-08-14 11:08:52 AM

HeadLever: Mentat: Oh, you mean the SEC Championship Game?

Are you unaware of the new system being enacted?  The new playoff format will take place after all confrence championship games.  This includes the SEC Championship Game.


Are you unaware of how easy it is to poke SEC haters?  Never mind, don't answer that.
 
2013-08-14 12:13:02 PM

Mentat: Are you unaware of how easy it is to poke SEC haters?


I really don't mind the SEC in this context.  If the NC game becomes a rematch of the SEC Championship Game because they beat eveyone during the playoffs, then the more power to them. At least they proved it on the field.  That is all that I have ever asked.
 
2013-08-14 12:18:10 PM

HeadLever: Mentat: Are you unaware of how easy it is to poke SEC haters?

I really don't mind the SEC in this context.  If the NC game becomes a rematch of the SEC Championship Game because they beat eveyone during the playoffs, then the more power to them. At least they proved it on the field.  That is all that I have ever asked.


You know people will still be crying about that and saying the refs were for the SEC. Nobody will ever admit that the SEC is the best conference in college football right now because as of now they have the best recruiting pool and are able to keep the top recruits from that pool in the SEC and from going to other conferences. This type of stuff happens. 5 or 10 years from now it may be the Pac 10, and guess what, people will be crying and complaining the same way about them.
 
2013-08-14 12:52:27 PM

ongbok: You know people will still be crying about that and saying the refs were for the SEC


Some folks will cry about anything.  For me, so long as they prove it on the field, I have nothing against tagging the SEC or anyone else as the 'best'.  Sure better than the old system where a good number of teams never got the shot.
 
2013-08-14 01:22:35 PM

bluenote13: Those are the preseason rankings, which mean nothing.  I would bet by the end of the season they will have played at least 4 teams ranked at the time of the game.


That's right.  LSU will be ranked number 1 before and after they beat Alabama.
 
2013-08-14 01:28:24 PM

T-Boy: We have a winner.  Even the Pac-12 homers can see the coup which has taken place.


It was pretty clear before it ever happened. I've made that argument against the playoff in every thread where morons think that a playoff is the only acceptable way to determine a champion. But of course, it couldn't rise above the cacophony of simpletons shouting "PLAYOFF! PLAYOFF! PLAYOFF!"

Oh, gee, I wonder why ESPN had been pushing a playoff really really hard recently. Could it be because they just got a contract with the SEC?

bluenote13: I would bet by the end of the season they will have played at least 4 teams ranked at the time of the game.


Largely due to the fact that there's an unwritten rule about there being 6-9 SEC teams ranked every week. (Six if it's a down year and for some reason there are a lot of early losses, despite the conference's general rule of scheduling patsies in OOC play, usually 7-8).
 
2013-08-14 03:47:07 PM

IAmRight: T-Boy: We have a winner.  Even the Pac-12 homers can see the coup which has taken place.

It was pretty clear before it ever happened. I've made that argument against the playoff in every thread where morons think that a playoff is the only acceptable way to determine a champion. But of course, it couldn't rise above the cacophony of simpletons shouting "PLAYOFF! PLAYOFF! PLAYOFF!"

Oh, gee, I wonder why ESPN had been pushing a playoff really really hard recently. Could it be because they just got a contract with the SEC?

bluenote13: I would bet by the end of the season they will have played at least 4 teams ranked at the time of the game.

Largely due to the fact that there's an unwritten rule about there being 6-9 SEC teams ranked every week. (Six if it's a down year and for some reason there are a lot of early losses, despite the conference's general rule of scheduling patsies in OOC play, usually 7-8).


Dude, you're one of my favs on the Sports tab, because a) you know your stuff when it comes to football, but I mainly love you because b) you're such a Northwest/ Pac12 homer, you can't help but put out insane arguments such as that the playoff won't matter because all 4 will be SEC teams, and that Alabama can't score against college defenses.

Never change, IAmRight, never change...stay golden, man.
 
2013-08-14 03:57:19 PM

oh_please: Dude, you're one of my favs on the Sports tab, because a) you know your stuff when it comes to football, but I mainly love you because b) you're such a Northwest/ Pac12 homer, you can't help but put out insane arguments such as that the playoff won't matter because all 4 will be SEC teams, and that Alabama can't score against college defenses.


In fairness, regarding the scoring comment, I was thinking more of two years ago and really more about LSU. The point is that, if anyone's ever talking about how a college team could compete with the pros, they'd never lead off with talking about how an SEC offense would kick ass. It's always about the defense.

/and I didn't say 4 SEC teams! But three is not unfathomable given recent history (1,2,6,9 in 2011; 2,3,7,8,10 in 2012), and two is all but a lock
//if a team dusts SEC1 in the first round by 30 and then loses by a FG to SEC2 in the final? SEC CONTINUES DOMINATION
 
2013-08-14 04:29:20 PM
I may hate Ohio State

but hubrismitter makes me want to put Brutus Buckeye down my pants

/Don't judge me
//Go Badgers!
 
2013-08-14 04:54:40 PM

IAmRight: But three is not unfathomable given recent history (1,2,6,9 in 2011; 2,3,7,8,10 in 2012), and two is all but a lock
//if a team dusts SEC1 in the first round by 30 and then loses by a FG to SEC2 in the final? SEC CONTINUES DOMINATION


Ok, in 2011, obviously LSU is #1, and ALA/OkSt are 2 and 3. Not sure who the 4th seed would be, but it certainly wasn't the #6 team in the country.

In 2012, it would have been ND #1, AL #2, and either Oregon or GA #3 or #4, depending on the criteria. Honestly, I think Oregon would have given the Tide a better game than ND last year, but they wouldn't have won...nobody was stopping that freight train, period.

Anyhoo, in either scenario, as you claim, 3 SEC teams wouldn't have gotten into the playoff...is it "fair" that two would have? Maybe not, they get the hype and the players, but so does Oregon and USC. Hell, Phil Knight throws more money at Oregon football than our government allocates to fix infrastructure in this country, FFS.
 
2013-08-14 06:22:22 PM

oh_please: Anyhoo, in either scenario, as you claim, 3 SEC teams wouldn't have gotten into the playoff...is it "fair" that two would have? Maybe not, they get the hype and the players, but so does Oregon and USC. Hell, Phil Knight throws more money at Oregon football than our government allocates to fix infrastructure in this country, FFS.


In Week 14 last year (after the regular season but prior to conference championship games), it was Notre Dame 1, Alabama 2, Georgia 3, Florida 4. I'm hardly being ridiculous.
 
2013-08-14 06:58:47 PM

IAmRight: oh_please: Anyhoo, in either scenario, as you claim, 3 SEC teams wouldn't have gotten into the playoff...is it "fair" that two would have? Maybe not, they get the hype and the players, but so does Oregon and USC. Hell, Phil Knight throws more money at Oregon football than our government allocates to fix infrastructure in this country, FFS.

In Week 14 last year (after the regular season but prior to conference championship games), it was Notre Dame 1, Alabama 2, Georgia 3, Florida 4. I'm hardly being ridiculous.


Week 14 is also irrelevant.  Week 15 is what matters, when it was Notre Dame 1, Alabama 2, Florida 3, Oregon 4.
 
2013-08-14 07:48:39 PM

IAmRight: /still mostly just bitter that we didn't have USC/SEC battles in '03 or '04 because Oklahoma had to get put into them despite being outmatched
//mainly because USC would've destroyed both LSU and Auburn


Uh, no. USC would not have "destroyed" Auburn that year.

Auburn had Jason Campbell at QB, Ronnie Brown/Cadillac Williams at RB, Marcus McNeill and King Dunlap on the OL, Jay Ratliff  DL, and Carlos Rogers CB, all of which had NFL careers, and several others got drafted as well. I hate Auburn but they got screwed that year...and would have given USC a great game.
 
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