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2013-08-13 12:47:57 PM
They can, they can beat Vandy, Kentucky, Miss State, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Missouri.
 
2013-08-13 01:02:05 PM
Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.
 
2013-08-13 01:02:10 PM
Oh this will end well.  Regardless.......Roll Tide
 
2013-08-13 01:03:33 PM
Interestingly, the rest of the Big Ten does just fine against the SEC. OSU really brings down the league's combined record.
 
2013-08-13 01:04:09 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


No they couldn't
 
2013-08-13 01:04:31 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake
 
2013-08-13 01:06:54 PM

Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake


Not to mention, Alabama's starting 22 at any one time has maybe 10 NFL level players,and 5-7 NFL starters at any one time.

An NFL starting 22 will have.. 22 starters
 
2013-08-13 01:06:59 PM
Was not aware that Alabama had 12+ teams in the SEC.

Subby fail = fifteen yards for unintelligent-like conduct.
 
2013-08-13 01:07:40 PM

Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake


I never said they would win...I know they would not.  I just think they could huff it out there better than most people think.

Frankly, I'd love to see that put to the test.  Alabama vs. the NFL team with the worst record from last season.  One half of play time only, standard rules apply.
 
2013-08-13 01:07:56 PM
This rings a bell.  Wasn't this the same type of hype we heard about ND before the title game?

Let me check how that game turned out.
 
2013-08-13 01:07:58 PM
Ohio State: SEC tactics in the Big Ten
 
2013-08-13 01:14:15 PM
All I know is that when Ohio State plays Florida again - especially if it's in the swamp - I'm clearing my schedule to watch it.
 
2013-08-13 01:15:27 PM
FFS LSU and Alabama can barely score against college defenses, why the hell would you think they can put up "serious points" on an NFL defense?
 
2013-08-13 01:16:19 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


HaHaOhWow.jpeg.

At least THE OSU is catching up to the SEC in NCAA violations.
 
2013-08-13 01:16:51 PM
Just when you think some troll bait headline couldn't make a thread any more stupid, you get the "SEC vs. NFL" brand of idiocy.
 
2013-08-13 01:18:06 PM
My prediction for random low-level NFL vs Alabama, assuming both teams playing with full motivations:

NFL - 31
'Bama- 10
 
2013-08-13 01:18:45 PM
SEC teams are not unbeatable.  just ask Boise or Utah.

The SEC is very tough to beat in the NC game, however.
 
2013-08-13 01:22:22 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake

I never said they would win...I know they would not.  I just think they could huff it out there better than most people think.

Frankly, I'd love to see that put to the test.  Alabama vs. the NFL team with the worst record from last season.  One half of play time only, standard rules apply.


The college team would not move the ball at all and would turn it over on most passing plays.  Pro defenders are FAST and smart, a college QB who hasn't faced a pro defense has zero chance, his passes will never get there fast enough.
 
2013-08-13 01:22:24 PM

MugzyBrown: My prediction for random low-level NFL vs Alabama, assuming both teams playing with full motivations:

NFL - 31
'Bama- 10


I think your spread is too low.
 
2013-08-13 01:23:01 PM
Unless you're talking the 0-16 Lions or TB original team, any college team would lose badly. And even then the pro team would still be a 7pt favorite
 
2013-08-13 01:24:38 PM

MugzyBrown: Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake

Not to mention, Alabama's starting 22 at any one time has maybe 10 NFL level players,and 5-7 NFL starters at any one time.

An NFL starting 22 will have.. 22 starters


You are assuming it's not the Browns.
 
2013-08-13 01:29:23 PM

Cataholic: MugzyBrown: Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake

Not to mention, Alabama's starting 22 at any one time has maybe 10 NFL level players,and 5-7 NFL starters at any one time.

An NFL starting 22 will have.. 22 starters

You are assuming it's not the Browns.


Even the Browns would biatch slap the best college football team.
 
2013-08-13 01:30:53 PM
If they want to compete with SEC teams, maybe they should schedule some games against them.

As is, Ohio State is ducking the SEC, just like Notre Dame.
 
2013-08-13 01:32:22 PM

HeadLever: The SEC is very tough to beat in the NC game, however.


Helps when the last time someone from another conference was allowed in was 3 years ago. Of course, LSU beat Oregon in a closer game than they had against pretty much anyone in the SEC that year. The year before, Alabama struggled to close out a team that lost its starting QB five plays into the game and was playing a freshman. Then you get into the Chokelahoma/Ohio State years (one of which the Buckeyes lost their most explosive player immediately following the first play of the game).
 
2013-08-13 01:37:23 PM

IAmRight: Helps when the last time someone from another conference was allowed in was 3 years ago.


Yeah, I hate the SEC as much as anyone, but you have to admit that they do play well enough to win once they get in.  What I like is with the new playoff system, they will have to prove it.

Really hope it will expand to 8 teams, though.
 
2013-08-13 01:39:38 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


This meme needs to go away.  The very best college football teams would not be able to compete with the worst NFL teams.  I have talked to officials that worked NCAA Div-I games, and have now moved to NFL games.  They assured me the difference in the speed of the game on the field is unbelievable.

/Remember, the worst NFL teams are still made up of the top athletes from the NCAA.
 
2013-08-13 01:39:40 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: If they want to compete with SEC teams, maybe they should schedule some games against them.


Again, that is a two way street.  Many SEC teams feel they have a difficult enough schedule that they don't want to slate any tough OC teams.  They will beat up on Central Michigan and Idaho instead.

Really resepct the SEC teams that will schedule the tough OC games though.
 
2013-08-13 01:45:56 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Never gets old.
 
2013-08-13 01:52:08 PM

HeadLever: What I like is with the new playoff system, they will have to prove it.

Really hope it will expand to 8 teams, though.


It'll be nice as long as they don't try to shove 4 SEC teams into each playoff.
 
2013-08-13 01:52:44 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


You suffer from Steve Spurrier syndrome don't you?
 
2013-08-13 01:54:18 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Hang On Voltaire: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

Not true sir.  An NFL starting unit has not just strength but years of experience and more talent vs. a college team.  The Jets would beat Alabama handily.  Bama's national championship starting QB from 2009 is third string...BEHIND SANCHEZ for God's sake

I never said they would win...I know they would not.  I just think they could huff it out there better than most people think.

Frankly, I'd love to see that put to the test.  Alabama vs. the NFL team with the worst record from last season.  One half of play time only, standard rules apply.


Uh, for the record, the Chiefs had the worst season....and sent 6 players to the Pro Bowl.  So, good luck with that.
 
2013-08-13 01:57:20 PM

chuggernaught: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.

This meme needs to go away.  The very best college football teams would not be able to compete with the worst NFL teams.  I have talked to officials that worked NCAA Div-I games, and have now moved to NFL games.  They assured me the difference in the speed of the game on the field is unbelievable.

/Remember, the worst NFL teams are still made up of the top athletes from the NCAA.


Except the Eagles...they are more of a discount based team.
 
2013-08-13 01:57:26 PM

Tom_Slick: They can, they can beat Vandy, Kentucky, Miss State, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Missouri.


Which equates to Northwestern, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa, Purdue, and Penn State.
 
2013-08-13 01:59:18 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Stick to the Wrestling threads.
 
2013-08-13 01:59:52 PM
Disparage the SEC all you want.  All I know is that Missouri has the worst rated batch of new recruits in the SEC.  This same group of recruits would be rated third best in the Big 12.  I don't know how this rating would be for a Big 10 comparison.  Recruit ratings aren't everything but they certainly are something.  Silk purse/sow's ear and all that.

Mizzou is going to be black and blue after this year's trip through the SEC schedule.  There really aren't many softies (besides Mizzou) in the SEC. Gonna be a long season here in Columbia.
 
2013-08-13 02:01:52 PM

pissnmoan: All I know is that Missouri has the worst rated batch of new recruits in the SEC.


Largely because "being recruited by a team in the SEC" is worth at least a star to a lot of rankings.
 
2013-08-13 02:13:01 PM

IAmRight: HeadLever: The SEC is very tough to beat in the NC game, however.

Helps when the last time someone from another conference was allowed in was 3 years ago. Of course, LSU beat Oregon in a closer game than they had against pretty much anyone in the SEC that year. The year before, Alabama struggled to close out a team that lost its starting QB five plays into the game and was playing a freshman. Then you get into the Chokelahoma/Ohio State years (one of which the Buckeyes lost their most explosive player immediately following the first play of the game).


It's cute how you try and dodge the shiat stomping put on Notre Dame by saying "another conference" instead of "a non-SEC team".  It's also quite a statement to say Alabama struggled against Texas in a game where they led from 3:24 in the second to the end of the game.  Then, in the 2007 game over Ohio St, it was Roy Hall that took out Ted Ginn, not a Florida player.

The fact is, excluding the 2012 SEC-SEC game, the SEC has won every NCG since 2007 by an average of over 16 points.  If you take that to all SEC games (again, excluding 2012), it's still an average of 14 points.  They have never been behind in a NCG in the second half and have only twice been tied at any point in the second half of a NCG.  That sounds like "very tough to beat" to me.
 
2013-08-13 02:13:36 PM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: The college team would not move the ball at all and would turn it over on most passing plays.  Pro defenders are FAST and smart, a college QB who hasn't faced a pro defense has zero chance, his passes will never get there fast enough.


I think the one thing that may subversively work against the pros for maybe a series or two is their speed advantage.  I could see pro defensive backs committing penalties because they're anticipating a pass with a little more zip and a receiver with a tighter route.  Then they would adjust, and that would be that.
 
2013-08-13 02:20:10 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


Are drugs legal where you reside?
 
2013-08-13 02:22:14 PM
Didn't tOSU beat an SEC team in the Sugar Bowl not so long ago?
 
2013-08-13 02:26:35 PM
I recall us beating Wisconsin en route to a perfect regular season, and Northwestern being in the Big Ten is a joke. As for Michigan, I recall three years ago when their kicked missed a 26-yard FG. I think a t-shirt cannon could've made that one.
 
2013-08-13 02:27:21 PM

IlGreven: Tom_Slick: They can, they can beat Vandy, Kentucky, Miss State, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Missouri.

Which equates to Northwestern, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa, Purdue, and Penn State.


How do you not put Illinois on the list of the Big Ten bottom?

No points are given for your retort.
 
2013-08-13 02:27:47 PM

srhp29: Didn't tOSU beat an SEC team in the Sugar Bowl not so long ago?


2010 over Arkansas.  Looking at wikipedia (here  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ohio_State_Buckeyes_football_sea s ons), it looks like Ohio State doesn't actually claim that win, after they self imposed a vacating of the 2010 season.  It's also their only post season win ever over an SEC team, bringing their record up to 1-9.
 
2013-08-13 02:31:34 PM

flak attack: It's also quite a statement to say Alabama struggled against Texas in a game where they led from 3:24 in the second to the end of the game.


I said struggled to put away, which isn't wrong for a game that was a 3-point game in the fourth quarter.

flak attack: That sounds like "very tough to beat" to me.


Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.
 
2013-08-13 02:36:57 PM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Frankly, the very worst teams in the NFL would have to actually try in order to beat the top teams in the SEC.

Sure, the physical size of the NFL players would carry the day, but LSU/Bama could at least put some serious points on the board first.


The worst NFL teams are so much better than the best NCAA teams that "serious points" means "anything more than zero".

LSU and Alabama have 20 year old starters who will NEVER play in the NFL. The Jaguars have backups who are as good as starters for Bama at nearly every position.
 
2013-08-13 02:37:09 PM

IAmRight: Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.


Ohio State has a 6*-3 record in BCS bowl games.
 
2013-08-13 02:38:53 PM

MugzyBrown: My prediction for random low-level NFL vs Alabama, assuming both teams playing with full motivations:

NFL - 31
'Bama- 10


Only if that is 10 career ending injuries for Alabama.
 
2013-08-13 02:41:38 PM

IAmRight: flak attack: It's also quite a statement to say Alabama struggled against Texas in a game where they led from 3:24 in the second to the end of the game.

I said struggled to put away, which isn't wrong for a game that was a 3-point game in the fourth quarter.

flak attack: That sounds like "very tough to beat" to me.

Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.


Since 1995, Ohio State is 8-8 in bowl games, 7-2 against non-SEC teams.  Oklahoma is 7-7, 6-4 against non-SEC teams.  Oklahoma is decent, but it looks to me like almost only SEC teams (and Texas and FSU) beat Ohio St in bowl games in recent years.
 
2013-08-13 02:42:57 PM

IAmRight: Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.


That may be true, but Urban is not used to losing bowl games.  Not sure if that is going to carry over to Ohio State.  We will see what happens when these two 'forces' collide.
 
2013-08-13 02:45:36 PM

HeadLever: IAmRight: Everyone beats Ohio State and Oklahoma in bowl games. It's not that impressive.

That may be true, but Urban is not used to losing bowl games.  Not sure if that is going to carry over to Ohio State.  We will see what happens when these two 'forces' collide.


Urban Meyer is not used to losing games, period. That has carried over to Ohio State quite well so far.
 
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