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(Center for Public Integrity)   A shadow Koch brother may be the scariest one of all   (publicintegrity.org) divider line 58
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2013-08-13 11:52:52 AM  
How many Koch brothers can there possibly be?  They're like the Baldwins of billionaires.
 
2013-08-13 12:22:10 PM  
Is a Koch Brother like a "wiener cousin"?
 
2013-08-13 12:29:27 PM  
www.macmeisters.com
 
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2013-08-13 12:56:32 PM  
Is he a brother from another mother?
 
2013-08-13 01:08:32 PM  
Only the Shadow knows!!
 
2013-08-13 01:11:10 PM  
There ... is ... another ... Koch ...
 
2013-08-13 01:11:51 PM  
What a screwed up family.  Their daddy was a John Bircher, and the rest seem about as unhinged.
 
2013-08-13 01:12:26 PM  
I like these Koch guys... a LOT.
 
2013-08-13 01:12:31 PM  
For the life of me, I don't understand why ANYONE thinks that companies should be allowed to make political contributions.
 
2013-08-13 01:12:41 PM  
 
2013-08-13 01:12:53 PM  
The Kochs are like the Voldemorts for liberals.

One mention of their name and they scream and squeal and piss their pants in anger and/or fear. Glenn Beck's reaction to all things George Soros has nothing on them.

As the libbiest lib who ever libbed, I can attest to it.
 
2013-08-13 01:13:00 PM  
Shut up, Shadow Koch.
 
2013-08-13 01:13:12 PM  
How much more business-friendly can the US be without becoming Russia? Jesus, these people are sick farks.
 
2013-08-13 01:14:49 PM  
They're still working on buying all of Wisconsin with that huge pool of money they have, clearly they're not motivated enough to get things done quickly. Not that an additional Koch would matter much.
 
2013-08-13 01:16:11 PM  
Is this like the theory that there can only be two siths at a time is a lie spread to make the jedi only look for two, when the whole time it was Darth Jar Jar Binks who was the real Sith Leader?
 
2013-08-13 01:18:17 PM  

kobrakai: How much more business-friendly can the US be without becoming Russia? Jesus, these people are sick farks.


Hell, some states are already building buildings with their own money just to get businesses to open.
 
2013-08-13 01:20:12 PM  
He's really doing his best to fark over some substantial Colorado park land.
 
2013-08-13 01:20:21 PM  
Just wait till their sisters Anita and Ivanna show up.
 
2013-08-13 01:21:05 PM  

Triple Oak: They're still working on buying all of Wisconsin with that huge pool of money they have, clearly they're not motivated enough to get things done quickly. Not that an additional Koch would matter much.


Have we determined why they're buying Wisconsin yet?  How much cheese can three people eat?
 
2013-08-13 01:22:09 PM  

gnosis301: kobrakai: How much more business-friendly can the US be without becoming Russia? Jesus, these people are sick farks.

Hell, some states are already building buildings with their own money just to get businesses to open.


Not even that.

They even built interstate highways, rail, sewage, and all sorts of other amenities. And for what? A place where businesses can just waltz in and order people to do things for money?

It's gone too far, and I hope to god that President Hilary will stop it.
 
2013-08-13 01:22:17 PM  
White Shadow...
 
2013-08-13 01:22:19 PM  

ArkPanda: Triple Oak: They're still working on buying all of Wisconsin with that huge pool of money they have, clearly they're not motivated enough to get things done quickly. Not that an additional Koch would matter much.

Have we determined why they're buying Wisconsin yet?  How much cheese can three people eat?


I thought it was probably because unions started there.  Destroy the power of labor there, and they can do it anywhere.
 
2013-08-13 01:23:04 PM  
B-b-b-but Soros!
 
2013-08-13 01:23:19 PM  

IntertubeUser: How many Koch brothers can there possibly be?  They're like the Baldwins of billionaires.


Alphax: What a screwed up family.  Their daddy was a John Bircher, and the rest seem about as unhinged.



There's one more brother besides the two notorious ones and the one who's the subject of this article...

He's the oldest and their father's namesake, and he seems like a really cool dude.

Frederick R. Koch:

Unlike his father and three brothers who studied chemical engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology and pursued business careers, Frederick studied humanities at Harvard College (B.A. 1955), following which he enlisted in the U.S. Navy serving in Millington, near Memphis and then on the aircraft carrier USS Saratoga.

Upon return to civilian life Koch enrolled at the Yale School of Drama where his focus was playwriting and from which he received an M.F.A. degree in 1961.
Through personal and foundation acquisitions Koch assembled large and important collections of rare books and literary and musical manuscripts, fine and decorative arts and photographs, with works of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries predominating. His Frederick R. Koch Foundation is a major donor in New York to the Pierpont Morgan Library,[2] and the Frick Collection and, in Pittsburgh, to the Carnegie Museum of Art.[3] Of particular note are The Frederick R. Koch Collections at the Harvard Theater Collection, Houghton Library at Harvard University, and at Yale University's Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library that Yale president Richard C. Levin describes in the Beinecke's collection catalog as "one of the greatest collections to come to Yale since the year of its founding." In 1986 Koch funded the full reconstruction of the Royal Shakespeare Company's Swan Theater in England, from its 1879 remains. In 1990, according to the New York Times, the Frederick Koch Foundation auctioned at Christie's the original manuscript of Vile Bodies by Evelyn Waugh, along with 150 other books and manuscripts by Oscar Wilde, Somerset Maugham, A.A. Milne, and others.[2] The Waugh manuscript was said to be the last manuscript by the writer still in private hands. Koch also owns among his private collections the archival estate of George Platt Lynes and a vast archive of society photographer Jerome Zerbe.[4]

Since the 1980s, Mr. Koch has bought, restored and maintained a number of historic properties in the United States of America and abroad, including a Woolworth mansion in Manhattan;[5] the Habsburg hunting lodge, Schloss Blühnbach (near Salzburg);[6][7] the Romanesque Villa Torre Clementina in Cap Martin, France and Elm Court, a Tudor Gothic manse in Butler, Pennsylvania. In 2005 Koch sold Sutton Place near Guildford (Surrey, England), the former residence of J. Paul Getty and the legendary meeting place of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn (purchased from another art collector, Stanley Seeger[8]) which Koch restored and operated as the Sutton Place Foundation, open to the public, for more than 25 years.[9]

Koch served for many years on the boards of directors of the Spoleto Festival and The Royal Shakespeare Company, and remains an active, long-serving board member of the Metropolitan Opera and the Film Society of Lincoln Center.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_R._Koch


-THAT- is how "trust-fund babies" SHOULD live their lives.

If you are born with the power of a king, you should use to MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE... not to tilt it on its axis so that all the rest of the money rolls into your pockets too.
 
2013-08-13 01:23:45 PM  
Which one is this?  Stumpy?  Sleazy? Wheezy?
 
2013-08-13 01:24:28 PM  
ArkPanda:   Have we determined why they're buying Wisconsin yet?

Because
i179.photobucket.com
That's why.
 
2013-08-13 01:24:32 PM  

super_grass: President Hilary will stop it.


Yeah. I doubt that'll happen. Both President Hillary AND her doing anything about it.
 
2013-08-13 01:25:56 PM  
Billionaire businessman William Koch once operated green energy plants on multiple continents and had a reputation for being more politically moderate than his better-known brothers, Charles and David - the principal owners of Koch Industries, Inc.

WTF William, why did you turn into a sociopath like your brothers?

Though if the article is accurate about William's new feelings towards the environment, then the company is doing some detailed astroturfing on it's website of William's company. http://www.oxbow.com/
 
2013-08-13 01:27:30 PM  

IntertubeUser: How many Koch brothers can there possibly be?  They're like the Baldwins of billionaires.


This little revelation has convinced me thay we're living in a fictional universe, where they retcon new characters haphazardly.

"Yeah, there was a third brother all along, and he's the evilest one of all!"
 
2013-08-13 01:28:00 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: ArkPanda:   Have we determined why they're buying Wisconsin yet?

Because
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That's why.


It's...  A black guys fault?
 
2013-08-13 01:28:27 PM  

Alphax: ArkPanda: Triple Oak: They're still working on buying all of Wisconsin with that huge pool of money they have, clearly they're not motivated enough to get things done quickly. Not that an additional Koch would matter much.

Have we determined why they're buying Wisconsin yet?  How much cheese can three people eat?

I thought it was probably because unions started there.  Destroy the power of labor there, and they can do it anywhere.


It's rather nice in the summertime up here too. When there aren't tornados ripping through, that is...
 
2013-08-13 01:32:12 PM  
so, a koch shadow?
farm3.staticflickr.com
 
2013-08-13 01:32:13 PM  

super_grass: They even built interstate highways, rail, sewage, and all sorts of other amenities. And for what? A place where businesses can just waltz in and order people to do things for money?


I live near a major resort island. There is exactly one two-lane bridge to the island. All of the hotels and timeshares and what-have-you all have near identical check-in times, resulting in a bottleneck every single Friday, Sunday, or day of importance that backs up traffic for 5+ miles. The city council tried to get the hotels and such to stagger their check-in times. The hotels and such told the city council to go pound sand, and now to alleviate the problem they're getting the city to add two lanes to the highway and eventually rebuild the bridge. fark'em all.
 
2013-08-13 01:32:42 PM  

Alphax: What a screwed up family.  Their daddy was a John Bircher,....


Who got rich the American way, by serving Stalin.
 
2013-08-13 01:33:34 PM  

super_grass: They even built interstate highways, rail, sewage, and all sorts of other amenities. And for what? A place where businesses can just waltz in and order people to do things for money?


It seems a bit different when a specific company enters into a contract with the state to provide construction for that specific company and to provide funds to help that company lease a building until that construction is complete.  I'm no policy-maker or business magnate, however.
 
2013-08-13 01:34:38 PM  
Kansas and Nebraska have navies?
 
2013-08-13 01:34:54 PM  
I don't think fear is the right word. Amusement at his failure to bet on the winning horse (in politics) better describes my almost non-existent feelings about another wealthy shiat-weasel.
 
2013-08-13 01:35:38 PM  
There is no way in hell I'm clicking any links in this thread.
 
2013-08-13 01:36:19 PM  
Oxbow Carbon and Minerals LLC:


Oxbow Carbon LLC is one of the world's largest recyclers of refinery and natural gas byproducts. Oxbow upgrades, handles, transports and sells petroleum coke and sulphur into markets where they can be used to produce aluminum, steel, electric power, fertilizer, cement and other critical products for the world economy.


Oxbow delivers value to its suppliers and customers through a global network of marketing offices and supply chain assets managed by an experienced, professional team. The company's product knowledge and technical expertise is unsurpassed in the fields in which it operates.


Oxbow values a sustainable business model that prioritizes safe, environmentally sound and efficient operations.
( ... UNLESS IT COSTS KOCH MONEY--Brantgoose.)


Source:   http://www.oxbow.com/


Koch, by the way, is not pronounced "Cock". It is pronounced "coke", which is a carbon fuel produced by burning coal. In addition to Oxbow Carbon and Minerals, Koch owns Huron Carbon, and the two companies are the funnels for the bulk of his direct-to-the-corporate-bottom-line lobbying and purchases of right-wing politicians.


In short, coal magnate is anti-global warming science and climate change action. Woof! I'm so shocked, shocked I say!


Ironic, isn't it, that Daddy Koch's fortune was made refining oil for Josef Stalin? Armand Hammer didn't make more money from servicing the commies. The Bushes didn't get more of their wealth from the Theissen-Krupt industrial complex's rebuilding of Germany's war-making capability and their support of the Nazi Regime. Commies and Nazis and American Industrial Giants, oh my! I don't think we are in Kansas, any more, Toto Warbucks!


exiledonline.com

Daddy Warbucks is personally thanked by Stalin
 
2013-08-13 01:36:30 PM  
I get that energy companies and the people who invest in and work for them aren't going to "go gentle into that good night."

Even pursuing renewable energy and "green" solutions is a bit of a suicide for them because they're not likely to provide the margins that oil and coal provide, in many cases because you can't build a fence around them and say "all of your energy needs will be supplied by THIS resource that WE alone can harness."

What I don't understand is how there are fan-boys who support them in their efforts to keep the rest of us (themselves included) strapped to a barrel for convenient rogering.

It's truly "Chickens For Colonel Sanders!" It's slaves for the preservation of slavery. "Change frightens me, so I'd rather stick with the guy who is farking me over than see the evolution of a new paradigm I am not familiar with."
 
2013-08-13 01:46:39 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Alphax: What a screwed up family.  Their daddy was a John Bircher,....

Who got rich the American way, by serving Stalin.



And his boys grew the family fortune the old-fashioned way, out and out theft...

"The [Senate] subcommittee cited Koch Industries as 'the most dramatic example of an oil company stealing by deliberate mismeasurement and fraudulent reporting.' The committee calculated that Koch had stolen $31 million worth of oil over three years--and implied that all of it came from Native Americans."
 
2013-08-13 01:52:04 PM  
 
2013-08-13 01:52:11 PM  
And then he kills the other two brothers and unleashes an army of robots which only a band of now-united mercenaries can defeat.
 
2013-08-13 01:57:05 PM  
Billionaire businessman William Koch

I mean, seriously. You'd think some of these stuffed with cash types would just STFU and enjoy their money. Some of us don't even have a retirement account.

But William now rejects the "apocalypse of global warming."(derp) He says investing in alternative energy is "foolhardy." And ahead of the 2012 election, he criticized President Barack Obama for trying to "socialize" the country.

But on the other hand, I guess that's how the Kochs do enjoy their wealth and privilege.
 
2013-08-13 01:58:37 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: I love this.

And the Kennedy's earned their sick fortune the old-fashioned, honest-to-goodness HONEST way!


Look over there!
 
2013-08-13 01:58:41 PM  

gnosis301: There ... is ... another ... Koch ...


Yes...
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2013-08-13 02:02:44 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: I love this.

And the Kennedy's earned their sick fortune the old-fashioned, honest-to-goodness HONEST way!


Wait, your first source to prove your straw-man point in this debate, which incidentally is happening entirely within the confines of your own mind, is from a piece called "Joe Kennedy: The Worst Person in U.S. History" from a website called Red Room?

Buddy, you have issues and love is not one of them.
 
2013-08-13 02:06:45 PM  

RulerOfNone: And then he kills the other two brothers and unleashes an army of robots which only a band of now-united mercenaries can defeat.


Get with the times, Romney already lost.

/this expired joke brought to you by Mom's Old Fashioned Robot Oil
 
2013-08-13 02:10:19 PM  

Neighborhood Watch: I love this.

And the Kennedy's earned their sick fortune the old-fashioned, honest-to-goodness HONEST way!



No shiat...

"Behind every great fortune lies a great crime."   -   Honore de Balzac

Most really wealthy guys are greedy assholes who made their money by really screwing other people over. (legally or illegally)


Though, the article you linked to says that Joe Kennedy made his money the Romney way... as a corporate raider who pilfered other companies and an investment manager who worked in concert with partners to manipulate the stock prices of companies he was invested in.

There's little in there that the right-wing hasn't been defending as good and honorable fair-play tactics in a business world in which people play for keeps.
 
2013-08-13 02:14:12 PM  

talan123: Neighborhood Watch: I love this.

And the Kennedy's earned their sick fortune the old-fashioned, honest-to-goodness HONEST way!

Wait, your first source to prove your straw-man point in this debate, which incidentally is happening entirely within the confines of your own mind, is from a piece called "Joe Kennedy: The Worst Person in U.S. History" from a website called Red Room?

Buddy, you have issues and love is not one of them.


Red Room, despite what you might assume at first blush, is just a writer's website... It's not innately political. The author of that piece however...

is responsible for this lovely tirade on Amazon, regarding "All the President's Men."

"All the President's Men", based on the book by Woodward and Bernstein, was impossible to resist for Redford. Nixon! Oh boy! Again, Hollywood passed up the Kennedy-stole-the-election story. What a shock! You have to hand it to these guys, though; they have talent. "President's" was masterful, thanks in large part to Goldman, who knew how to condense the story. Redford tried to play it close to the vest, and comes close to making it come off as straight and narrow. The actual truth portrayed betrays the lack of objectivity, however, at the Washington Post. Redford is Bob Woodward, a former Navy officer and a Republican. This is revealed to Carl Bernstein (Dustin Hoffman) who gives him a furtive look upon learning this shocking truth. Jason Robards is Ben Bradlee, the Post's editor. We all know the story: The DNC is broken into by Cubans with White House phone numbers in their address books, and in investigating the burglary Woodward and Bernstein suspect a larger plot, which they uncover through dogged journalism that cannot be denied. The two writers are shown to be complete heroes. Hal Halbrooke plays "Deep Throat", the White House insider who gives Woodward the leads he needs to keep investigating. To this day his identity is unknown, and it remains entirely plausible that he was invented out of whole cloth.

The story is the story, and there is no room for liberal bias in that. To Redford's credit, he does not demonize the Republicans or sermonize. Implicit threat against the pair are made, but not expanded into anything. G. Gordon Liddy did volunteer to "off" Jack Anderson for revealing CIA assets in the U.S.S.R., but there is no evidence that Nixon's Republicans ever thought about blowing Woodward and Bernstein away. Domestic political murders, as best as I can tell, are the province of the Democrats. Even in Oliver Stone's "JFK", it is Lyndon Johnson who supposedly was in on the plan to kill the President.

The bias in "All the President's Men" is subliminal, but leave it to yours truly to see it. First, there is the acronym CREEP, which stands for Committee to Re-elect the President. There have been numerous such committees over he years, and they always go by the acronym CRP. But Woodward and Bernstein turned it into CREEP. Gotcha. There is also a scene in which Bradlee, who in real life was a drinking buddy (and God knows what else) of Kennedy's, getting the news that the story is progressing and has real legs.

"You run that baby," he tells Woodward and Bernstein, then does little jig as he leaves the office. This is telling. Redford and director Alan Pakula allowed it, probably because it let them impart their own happiness over Nixon's downfall through the character. In another scene, Robards/Bradlee tells the reporters, "There's not much riding on this. Just the First Amendment and the Constitution of the United States."

Now just hoooold on there, Ben. Was Watergate really about the Constitution? Was that august document threatened? This begs the question, Where was Bradlee and Post publisher Katherine Graham when the Constitution really was threatened by their pal JFK, who stole the 1960 election? Where were they when their pal Bobby Kennedy was wiretapping Martin Luther King? Democrat operatives had to break into homes, hotels and offices to wiretap Dr. King just as the Plumbers had to break into Dr. Fielding's office, and Larry O'Brien's. A free press is undoubtedly the cornerstone of Democracy, but it functions best when it is not populated by over-inflated egos who think they are the soul arbiter of freedom of expression. "



So, yeah... He's pretty-obviously an unhinged freeper.
 
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