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2013-08-13 03:12:57 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: DeaH: I wonder how the gay, married executives from Mass will feel about a move to TX?

Dunno. They could ask Houston's lesbian Mayor about it at a dinner in the Montrose, one of  the nation's largest gay centers.


You can't really compare Texas and Massachusetts in homosexual acceptance.  They simply aren't in the same league, I'm not sure they're playing the same sport.
 
2013-08-13 03:13:16 PM  
mcreadyblue:

Dallas is far more liberal than Austin. The young republicans are well represented at UT.

cache.ohinternet.com
 
2013-08-13 03:16:21 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Lotta Farkers here don't understand why stupid shiat like this is EXACTLY why Texas is continuing to grow year after year even during economic downturns and why Texas is the second largest economy in the country and the nations' leader in interstate migration. No income tax, lower cost of living, beautiful scenery, plenty of room, etc.

So by all means, lob your cute little insults at Texas. Keeping taxing your state's businesses a little more. Don't come here. You'll be just fine.


Lower cost of living in some places. Growth industries in some industries.

What we do have are lots of high-paying, low-skill jobs, primarily in the oil fields. Which is why a 2/2 in Midland costs double the mortgage payment of a house in another state.

We also have fairly poor public schools, abysmal public health, severe drought, and high local sales taxes to make up for what we lose by not having a state income tax. Places like Austin seem vibrant and prone to draw in outsiders, but unless you're a trustafarian Californian or New Yorker, good luck finding a job and a reasonable place to live in most of Travis County that isn't college-y.

But by all means if you're a major tech company, an oil company, or some other large business, Ol' Rickyroo has got the tax breaks for you! Your workers will be hot, their children will be uneducated, and they'll all be paying sales tax out the ass after their high-rent/mortgage homes take the rest of the paycheck you deign to give them. But who cares, right? This is a right to work state, and no liberal f*ggot is going to tell you what to do with your money.
 
2013-08-13 03:16:32 PM  

EvilEgg: You can't really compare Texas and Massachusetts in homosexual acceptance. They simply aren't in the same league, I'm not sure they're playing the same sport.


I think you'd be surprised in Houston (and Austin and Dallas). Especially if you've never seen 34 years of Gay Pride Parades.
 
2013-08-13 03:17:54 PM  

slayer199: Not a problem, people won't have to move to Texas...Nashua, New Hampshire has already been a beneficiary of businesses fleeing Taxachusetts high taxes.  It's less than 50 miles from Boston...now they'll benefit even more.


both texas and new hampshire have some of the highest property taxes in the nation, I love how people don't think the government gets it's money one way or another, such sweet kids! *puffs cigar*
 
2013-08-13 03:19:52 PM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: We also have fairly poor public schools, abysmal public health, severe drought, and high local sales taxes to make up for what we lose by not having a state income tax. Places like Austin seem vibrant and prone to draw in outsiders, but unless you're a trustafarian Californian or New Yorker, good luck finding a job and a reasonable place to live in most of Travis County that isn't college-y.


Austin and Midland? Dude you are doing it wrong. Especially Midland. No one lives there that has a choice. And that's not where people are migrating to.

Houston is the fourth largest city in the country with energy, tech, shipping, medical, and finance all booming. And if you can stomach the arrogance, Dallas isn't that bad, and Fort Worth is OK.
 
2013-08-13 03:20:47 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: I think you'd be surprised in Houston (and Austin and Dallas). Especially if you've never seen 34 years of Gay Pride Parades.


Yeah, our Pride Parade in Boston HAS gotten a little boring. Lots of school groups and church groups and fire trucks, kind of like every other parade. I guess that happens when gay people are actually accepted and treated like everyone else....and can get married and have stable families recognized by the state.
 
2013-08-13 03:21:30 PM  

Headso: both texas and new hampshire have some of the highest property taxes in the nation, I love how people don't think the government gets it's money one way or another, such sweet kids! *puffs cigar*


Better that the local state or city gets the tax dollars closer to where they are being spent, no?
 
2013-08-13 03:21:58 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: EvilEgg: You can't really compare Texas and Massachusetts in homosexual acceptance. They simply aren't in the same league, I'm not sure they're playing the same sport.

I think you'd be surprised in Houston (and Austin and Dallas). Especially if you've never seen 34 years of Gay Pride Parades.


Between Provincetown and Northhampton, Mass has two of the biggest enclaves for either variety homosexual.

/Now that I think about it, why are they on opposite ends of the state? Do gays and lesbians not get along?
 
2013-08-13 03:22:11 PM  

Infernalist: In all seriousness, the IT industry isn't overflowing with qualified personnel.  Sure, some of the heads of those companies might be tempted by simple stupid greed to move to a state like Texas because of its lower taxes, but most of their employees would not follow them.

And Texas itself is not exactly the Land of Milk and Honey when it comes to educated folk.  Let's face it, most of them are just a few steps above being functionally retarded.  And they're 'proud' of it.

There's a reason that the only place in Texas where IT flourishes is Austin, the most liberal city in the state...


Meanwhile Bioscience and health care flourishes with the uneducated in San Antonio.

Biomedical science, renewable energy, aeronautical science along with petroleum engineering is handled by the uneducated in Houston

The uneducated Dallas/Ft Worth are left dealing with the left with being known as the "silicon prairie " along with aircraft engineering, and a financial center.

But for some reason, despite not  being  as well educated as the  people of Massachusetts, they managed not to pass a similar software tax.  But then there are still some who confuse going to college with being smart.
 
2013-08-13 03:24:40 PM  
media.katu.com
"Wow, just look at all this opportunity for jobs Texas has here!"

/It's as if regulations are a preventive measure against halfassery-related disasters or something.
 
2013-08-13 03:25:25 PM  

EyeballKid: [media.katu.com image 660x409]
"Wow, just look at all this opportunity for jobs Texas has here!"

/It's as if regulations are a preventive measure against halfassery-related disasters or something.


Taxes, regulation, what's the difference?
 
2013-08-13 03:27:27 PM  

EvilEgg: BojanglesPaladin: EvilEgg: You can't really compare Texas and Massachusetts in homosexual acceptance. They simply aren't in the same league, I'm not sure they're playing the same sport.

I think you'd be surprised in Houston (and Austin and Dallas). Especially if you've never seen 34 years of Gay Pride Parades.

Between Provincetown and Northhampton, Mass has two of the biggest enclaves for either variety homosexual.

/Now that I think about it, why are they on opposite ends of the state? Do gays and lesbians not get along?


Duh

www.nbc.com
 
2013-08-13 03:28:56 PM  

slayer199: Not a problem, people won't have to move to Texas...Nashua, New Hampshire has already been a beneficiary of businesses fleeing Taxachusetts high taxes.  It's less than 50 miles from Boston...now they'll benefit even more.


I really see Nashua as the primary beneficiary of these sorts of taxes.  One of the reasons companies locate in Boston is access to the graduates from the 50 or so universities and colleges in the area, some of which are the top in the world.  Nashua is a short drive up the highway from Boston, and can still easily access this talent pool, even if the talent wants to live in Boston.
 
2013-08-13 03:29:47 PM  

Headso: both texas and new hampshire have some of the highest property taxes in the nation, I love how people don't think the government gets it's money one way or another, such sweet kids! *puffs cigar*


There's a difference between property taxes and punitive state and federal taxes.  Property taxes are local and most say local.  Police, fire, roads, etc...local taxes.  Personally, I don't have a problem paying property taxes as it directly benefits my community.  That's a far cry from the state or federal government taxing the hell out of my business.
 
2013-08-13 03:30:37 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Headso: both texas and new hampshire have some of the highest property taxes in the nation, I love how people don't think the government gets it's money one way or another, such sweet kids! *puffs cigar*

Better that the local state or city gets the tax dollars closer to where they are being spent, no?


I dunno, the elected/appointed officials in my town are assholes, I wish even building permits were taken out of their authority.
 
2013-08-13 03:34:59 PM  

Headso: both texas and new hampshire have some of the highest property taxes in the nation, I love how people don't think the government gets it's money one way or another, such sweet kids! *puffs cigar*


Something else you conveniently overlooked.  The overall tax burden to individuals and businesses is reduced in both Texas and New Hampshire.

New Hampshire Tax Climate:  http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/new-hampshire
Texas Tax Climate:  http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/texas
Massachusetts:  http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/massachusetts

So if you'd ask, a majority of people would gladly pay more in property taxes to have a greatly reduced overall tax burden.
 
2013-08-13 03:35:11 PM  
Step one: media.komonews.com
Step Two: thinkprogress.org


Step Three: 2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-08-13 03:36:28 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Obama's Reptiloid Master: We also have fairly poor public schools, abysmal public health, severe drought, and high local sales taxes to make up for what we lose by not having a state income tax. Places like Austin seem vibrant and prone to draw in outsiders, but unless you're a trustafarian Californian or New Yorker, good luck finding a job and a reasonable place to live in most of Travis County that isn't college-y.

Austin and Midland? Dude you are doing it wrong. Especially Midland. No one lives there that has a choice. And that's not where people are migrating to.

Houston is the fourth largest city in the country with energy, tech, shipping, medical, and finance all booming. And if you can stomach the arrogance, Dallas isn't that bad, and Fort Worth is OK.


Midland and Odessa can't build houses fast enough. Oil companies are renting out whole hotels for workers.

It sounds kinda like you don't know much about Texas, because you've lived your whole life in one of the major cities. Come outside your concrete jungle, stranger, and see how most of us in this great state live.
 
2013-08-13 03:36:41 PM  

impaler: Marcus Aurelius: Umm, subby, I don't want to rain on your outrage, but this appears to be a tax on professional computer services consumed by end users within the state.  They already tax software sales.

But those professional computer services will now have to commute from Texas everyday.


And they won't be able to get abortions.
 
2013-08-13 03:41:50 PM  

Headso: slayer199: Not a problem, people won't have to move to Texas...Nashua, New Hampshire has already been a beneficiary of businesses fleeing Taxachusetts high taxes.  It's less than 50 miles from Boston...now they'll benefit even more.

both texas and new hampshire have some of the highest property taxes in the nation, I love how people don't think the government gets it's money one way or another, such sweet kids! *puffs cigar*


You might want to put out your cigar.

Texas

Texas's State and Local Tax Burden Below National Average
.Texas's 2010 tax burden of 7.93% ranks 6th lowest out of 50 states, and is below the national average of 9.9%. Texas's taxpayers pay $3104 per capita in state and local taxes.

Texas's 2013 Business Tax Climate Index Ranks 9

.Texas ranks 9th in the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index. The Index compares the states in five areas of taxation that impact business: corporate taxes, individual income taxes, sales taxes, unemployment insurance taxes, and taxes on property, including residential and commercial property. The ranks of neighboring states are as follows: New Mexico, 38th, Oklahoma, 35th, Arkansas, 33rd, and Louisiana, 32nd

New Hampshire

New Hampshire's State and Local Tax Burden Below National Average

.New Hampshire's 2010 tax burden of 8.11% ranks 7th lowest out of 50 states, and is below the national average of 9.9%. New Hampshire's taxpayers pay $3717 per capita in state and local taxes.

New Hampshire's 2013 Business Tax Climate Index Ranks 7
.
New Hampshire ranks 7th in the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index. The Index compares the states in five areas of taxation that impact business: corporate taxes, individual income taxes, sales taxes, unemployment insurance taxes, and taxes on property, including residential and commercial property. The ranks of neighboring states are as follows: Vermont, 47th, Maine, 30th, and Massachusetts, 22nd.

massachusetts

Massachusetts's State and Local Tax Burden Above National Average
.
Massachusetts's 2010 tax burden of 10.43% ranks 8th highest out of 50 states, and is above the national average of 9.9%. Massachusetts's taxpayers pay $5422 per capita in state and local taxes.


Massachusetts's 2013 Business Tax Climate Index Ranks 22
.
Massachusetts ranks 22nd in the Tax Foundation's State Business Tax Climate Index. The Index compares the states in five areas of taxation that impact business: corporate taxes, individual income taxes, sales taxes, unemployment insurance taxes, and taxes on property, including residential and commercial property. The ranks of neighboring states are as follows: Rhode Island, 46th, Connecticut, 40th, New York, 50th, New Hampshire, 7th, and Vermont, 47th.
 
2013-08-13 03:42:48 PM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: Midland and Odessa can't build houses fast enough. Oil companies are renting out whole hotels for workers.

It sounds kinda like you don't know much about Texas, because you've lived your whole life in one of the major cities. Come outside your concrete jungle, stranger, and see how most of us in this great state live.



And soon those cities, and others in West Texas, will run out of water.  As has already happened with several towns in that region thanks to the massive drain on the aquifer that resulted from fracking operations.
 
2013-08-13 03:46:18 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: Lotta Farkers here don't understand why stupid shiat like this is EXACTLY why Texas is continuing to grow year after year even during economic downturns and why Texas is the second largest economy in the country and the nations' leader in interstate migration. No income tax, lower cost of living, beautiful scenery, plenty of room, etc.

So by all means, lob your cute little insults at Texas. Keeping taxing your state's businesses a little more. Don't come here. You'll be just fine.


State Median Income: 2011

Massachusetts $62,809
Texas $49,195


Budget deficit 2012:

Massachusetts $2,000,000
Texas $13,500,000
 
2013-08-13 03:49:59 PM  

JK47: Obama's Reptiloid Master: Midland and Odessa can't build houses fast enough. Oil companies are renting out whole hotels for workers.

It sounds kinda like you don't know much about Texas, because you've lived your whole life in one of the major cities. Come outside your concrete jungle, stranger, and see how most of us in this great state live.


And soon those cities, and others in West Texas, will run out of water.  As has already happened with several towns in that region thanks to the massive drain on the aquifer that resulted from fracking operations.


Yep! Thanks, lack of regulation by Texas authorities and unashamed fellating of energy companies! We hope you enjoying passing on the cost of bringing in water to your customers, who will use their no-state-income tax savings for buying life's most basic necessity.

Texas has a lot of good, but it is horribly managed because religious nuts elect robber barons who mouth appropriate words about Jesus and 'bortions and homoqueers, and those robber barons have zero qualms exploiting everything we have to be rich enough to buy a Hill Country ranch to retire to.
 
2013-08-13 03:54:50 PM  

BunkoSquad: Yeah, our Pride Parade in Boston HAS gotten a little boring. Lots of school groups and church groups and fire trucks, kind of like every other parade. I guess that happens when gay people are actually accepted and treated like everyone else....and can get married and have stable families recognized by the state.


No one is dissing your super awesome parades, man. I'm just saying that you are mistaken if you think that Houston doesn't have a large and vibrant gay population.

I'm sure Boston's gay parade is fabulous and had 100,000 attendees this year, but I'll assume you are unaware that the Houston Pride Parade regularly brings in 200,000 or more. Or that while Austin is ranked as one of the top 15 "Gayest" cities in America by the Advocate, Boston didn't rank.
 
2013-08-13 03:56:55 PM  

fsud: Wake me up when Texas opens up an equivalent to M.I.T.

/then send me some stationary for teh lulz


Here in Maryland we have the College of Notre Dame of Maryland. Their first sweatshirt were amazing.
 
2013-08-13 03:57:51 PM  

slayer199: Headso: both texas and new hampshire have some of the highest property taxes in the nation, I love how people don't think the government gets it's money one way or another, such sweet kids! *puffs cigar*

Something else you conveniently overlooked.  The overall tax burden to individuals and businesses is reduced in both Texas and New Hampshire.

New Hampshire Tax Climate:  http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/new-hampshire
Texas Tax Climate:  http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/texas
Massachusetts:  http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/massachusetts

So if you'd ask, a majority of people would gladly pay more in property taxes to have a greatly reduced overall tax burden.


Here people can go to see who actually pays the tax burden, just because a state has a low overall tax burden that is low doesn't mean most of their taxes are regressive and poor and middle class people pay the most. Many of the high tax burden states show that the 1% pay the additional cost, which is probably why republicans are told to say the things they say about them...

http://www.itep.org/whopays/
 
2013-08-13 04:01:18 PM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: It sounds kinda like you don't know much about Texas, because you've lived your whole life in one of the major cities.


Careful making assumptions there, son.

And while I'm a big fan of big Texas, I'll be the first to admit I don't like Midland/Odessa. Without the oil it would be a barren, empty stretch of nothing. With the oil, it's a barren, empty stretch of nothing full of tract housing, McMansions, and golf courses waiting to die the moment the sprinklers stop.

You mileage may, of course, vary. That's the other awesome thing about Texas. It's a whole damn country with entire regions all different from each other.
 
2013-08-13 04:06:08 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: I don't like Midland/Odessa. Without the oil it would be a barren, empty stretch of nothing. With the oil, it's a barren, empty stretch of nothing full of tract housing, McMansions, and golf courses waiting to die the moment the sprinklers stop.


The ugly starts at about Colorado City and doesn't end until you get to Van Horn.

And for all of you guys who hate Texas I'm cool with that. Just stay away and we won't bother you.
 
2013-08-13 04:07:05 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Just stay away and we won't bother you.


Stop sending us national candidates and committee members and you get a deal.
 
2013-08-13 04:08:48 PM  

impaler: State Median Income: 2011

Massachusetts $62,809
Texas $49,195


Running the numbers from his site links, the MA family comes out almost $11k ahead of the TX family.
Now TX has a lower cost of living than MA, but does anyone have the non-tax COL amount per state?

And of course, money isn't everything.
Anyone up for quality of life metric comparisons?
http://www.measureofamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MOA-III-J un e-18-FINAL.pdf
For spoilers, jump to page 17
 
2013-08-13 04:09:05 PM  

LasersHurt: Dancin_In_Anson: Just stay away and we won't bother you.

Stop sending us national candidates and committee members and you get a deal.


Also, for dia in particular, stop threadshiatting.
 
2013-08-13 04:09:24 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: No one is dissing your super awesome parades, man. I'm just saying that you are mistaken if you think that Houston doesn't have a large and vibrant gay population.

I'm sure Boston's gay parade is fabulous and had 100,000 attendees this year, but I'll assume you are unaware that the Houston Pride Parade regularly brings in 200,000 or more. Or that while Austin is ranked as one of the top 15 "Gayest" cities in America by the Advocate, Boston didn't rank.


Great! Can they get married or have legal protection from being fired for their orientation? Because if someone's thinking of where to move, I bet that ranks right up there with "fun parades"
 
2013-08-13 04:09:55 PM  

stratagos: Nemo's Brother: vpb: Yes, that's our strategy for turning Texas into a blue state.

How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas?  No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.

Liberals are truly a cancer.  They fark up their states (think California, Illinois) beyond repair and flee. They then try to turn their refuge into the same shiat hole they abandoned.

Is this where I point out which states tend to be net drains on the federal budget and which pay more than they get back in services?


Is that with or without military bases included?
 
2013-08-13 04:10:11 PM  

LasersHurt: Stop sending us national candidates and committee members and you get a deal.


I thought Lyndon Johnsons was a pretty good President. I think a lot of my PoC friends would agree.
 
2013-08-13 04:10:41 PM  

EyeballKid: And what? Be chased out by people fearing your talking devil box will teach their children how to dance to that heathen negro jazz music?

How many home-schooled IT experts are there, any way?


One of our information security analysts was home-schooled.
 
2013-08-13 04:10:57 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: LasersHurt: Stop sending us national candidates and committee members and you get a deal.

I thought Lyndon Johnsons was a pretty good President. I think a lot of my PoC friends would agree.


"PoC" friends? Not familiar.
 
2013-08-13 04:13:22 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: vpb: How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas? No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.

The folks at Rice University might disagree with you.

Or NASA.

Or MD Anderson (and any other number of cutting edge medical facilities in the state)

Shall I go on?

fsud: Wake me up when Texas opens up an equivalent to M.I.T.

See above.

Look man, why get all pissy about a company moving for economic reasons? Would you rather they go overseas or worse just close up shop?


No one is getting "pissy," because no one in Massachusetts is moving to Texas. Because Texas sucks, and a negligible increase in costs is jut not worth it to move to Texas. Place sucks. Full of Texans.
 
2013-08-13 04:16:50 PM  

BunkoSquad: Great! Can they get married or have legal protection from being fired for their orientation? Because if someone's thinking of where to move, I bet that ranks right up there with "fun parades"


Dude. Let it go. People are moving to Texas more than any other state in the nation. Including GAY people, who I trust are perfectly capable of making their own decisions about what works best for them. And Houston and Austin and Dallas all have big, solid, established, active and very, very, open gay communities who have been out and proud for decades.

Here's a hint by the way. In my experience, gay people are not ONLY gay. They are business owners who happen to be gay. They are engineers who happen to be gay, they are teachers, and HR reps, and programmers, and geologists and doctors and lawyers and any number of professional and non-professional people who happen to be gay.

So when they are looking for a better standard of living, and a lower cost of living, and a stable economy in a booming environment, Texas makes every bit as much sense to them as it does to any other straight person.

But YOU are perfectly welcome to stay in Boston and be as happy as you like there. I hear it's wonderful and it seemed very nice last time I visited.
 
2013-08-13 04:17:25 PM  

LasersHurt: BojanglesPaladin: LasersHurt: Stop sending us national candidates and committee members and you get a deal.

I thought Lyndon Johnsons was a pretty good President. I think a lot of my PoC friends would agree.

"PoC" friends? Not familiar.


People of color.


When Johnson moved the proposed NASA headquarters from Cambridge to Texas, it eventually allowed my company to buy all that Kendall Square property that we are making huge bank on right now. So I guess we owe him that.
 
2013-08-13 04:18:01 PM  

LasersHurt: "PoC" friends?


Persons of Color. See other threads today.

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Because Texas sucks, and a negligible increase in costs is jut not worth it to move to Texas.


Absolutely. It's a complete shiathole. Everyone stay away!
 
2013-08-13 04:18:47 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: People of color.


Wow, I thought it might be that, but I thought "nobody who has a diverse friend group would actually say 'People of Color.' Guess I was wrong.
 
2013-08-13 04:19:28 PM  

LasersHurt: Stop sending us national candidates and committee members and you get a deal.


So what you're saying is that every time a Texan runs for national office, you're going to come to Texas. Well, ok then.

Smackledorfer: Also, for dia in particular, stop threadshiatting.


Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Place sucks. Full of Texans.


Ow. That hurt.
 
2013-08-13 04:20:44 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: LasersHurt: Stop sending us national candidates and committee members and you get a deal.

So what you're saying is that every time a Texan runs for national office, you're going to come to Texas. Well, ok then.


Isn't it early to be drunk?
 
2013-08-13 04:24:32 PM  

BojanglesPaladin: But YOU are perfectly welcome to stay in Boston and be as happy as you like there. I hear it's wonderful and it seemed very nice last time I visited.


Well, thank you, I quite enjoyed Austin when I was there a few years ago, but haven't seen any of the rest of Texas except the DFW airport and the hotel I had to stay at near there when I missed my DFW connection.
 
2013-08-13 04:27:12 PM  

LasersHurt: Cubicle Jockey: People of color.

Wow, I thought it might be that, but I thought "nobody who has a diverse friend group would actually say 'People of Color.' Guess I was wrong.



I looked through a list of acronyms to try and figure it out, but that was the only one that made sense based on it involving Johnson and as a descriptor. I figured it wasn't "Proto Oceanic".
 
2013-08-13 04:30:18 PM  

BunkoSquad: Well, thank you, I quite enjoyed Austin when I was there a few years ago


As a Native Texan, I am legally required to say that I liked Austin better in the old days when it had more "character" and before "all the rich yuppies moved in". Then I have to tell you about that time I smoked a bowl at a club you've never heard of on 6th street, and open my shirt to show you my vintage "Keep Austin Weird" T-Shirt and then talk about how Kinky should have won.
 
2013-08-13 04:32:59 PM  

LasersHurt: Isn't it early to be drunk?


Why do you ask?
 
2013-08-13 04:37:17 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: BojanglesPaladin: I don't like Midland/Odessa. Without the oil it would be a barren, empty stretch of nothing. With the oil, it's a barren, empty stretch of nothing full of tract housing, McMansions, and golf courses waiting to die the moment the sprinklers stop.

The ugly starts at about Colorado City and doesn't end until you get to Van Horn.

And for all of you guys who hate Texas I'm cool with that. Just stay away and we won't bother you.


Which is fine, in theory, except for the idiots in Texas who elect their Education heads to "take that darn made-up stuff science-y stuff out of science books and put Jesus back in where it belongs". Which then gets trickled down to the rest of the country who actually appreciates their kids learning science stuff in science class.
 
2013-08-13 04:37:23 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: I looked through a list of acronyms to try and figure it out, but that was the only one that made sense based on it involving Johnson and as a descriptor. I figured it wasn't "Proto Oceanic".


Little known fact: Lyndon was a big supporter of Austronesian language study and managed to funnel a lot of pork barrel spending into Texas University programs. A truly unbelievable number of my friends are getting degrees in Proto Oceanic languages today as a result of Johnson's efforts.

/I was riffing off a discussion in a different thread about the 'proper' term for African Americans.
 
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