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(FastCo Labs)   Massachusetts Democrats: We have this golden goose in the IT industry. Let's chase that goose around the Route 128 corridor with an idiotic new tax law until it remembers it has wings and flies to Texas   (fastcolabs.com) divider line 133
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vpb [TotalFark]
2013-08-13 12:52:01 PM
Yes, that's our strategy for turning Texas into a blue state.

How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas?  No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.
 
2013-08-13 12:55:47 PM
If; (Texas) = True
Then: (Don't mess with)
 
2013-08-13 01:03:10 PM
Why is there a special tax on computer programming? I don't see the reasoning beyond "Fark you, pay me!"
 
2013-08-13 01:07:47 PM
Umm, subby, I don't want to rain on your outrage, but this appears to be a tax on professional computer services consumed by end users within the state.  They already tax software sales.
 
2013-08-13 01:10:33 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Umm, subby, I don't want to rain on your outrage, but this appears to be a tax on professional computer services consumed by end users within the state.  They already tax software sales.


But those professional computer services will now have to commute from Texas everyday.
 
2013-08-13 01:20:50 PM

impaler: Marcus Aurelius: Umm, subby, I don't want to rain on your outrage, but this appears to be a tax on professional computer services consumed by end users within the state.  They already tax software sales.

But those professional computer services will now have to commute from Texas everyday.


This means that every company in Massachusetts that consumes computer services will be moving to Texas.

That sounds serious.
 
2013-08-13 01:24:01 PM

impaler: Marcus Aurelius: Umm, subby, I don't want to rain on your outrage, but this appears to be a tax on professional computer services consumed by end users within the state.  They already tax software sales.

But those professional computer services will now have to commute from Texas everyday.


Or say, Vermont, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Connecticut, or New York.  It's a relatively small state, easy to commute from outside of it.
 
2013-08-13 01:51:04 PM
And what? Be chased out by people fearing your talking devil box will teach their children how to dance to that heathen negro jazz music?

How many home-schooled IT experts are there, any way?
 
2013-08-13 01:51:10 PM
There's also a booming scene in NYC, and there's always the west coast.

I mean, seriously, these guys have access to the internets. They can work ANYWHERE.
 
2013-08-13 01:52:56 PM
Yeah, really, no one from Massachusetts is moving to Texas because of this.
 
2013-08-13 01:53:43 PM
Floppy Disc Co.

I see MA lawmakers are keeping up with the times.
 
2013-08-13 01:54:30 PM
Texas wants your business!*


*unless you're hispanic, black, female, gay, atheistic, a democrat, educated and/or liberal in your thinking.
 
2013-08-13 01:56:37 PM

EvilEgg: impaler: Marcus Aurelius: Umm, subby, I don't want to rain on your outrage, but this appears to be a tax on professional computer services consumed by end users within the state.  They already tax software sales.

But those professional computer services will now have to commute from Texas everyday.

Or say, Vermont, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Connecticut, or New York.  It's a relatively small state, easy to commute from outside of it.


You're kidding right, I drive to Mass for cheap(er) booze
 
2013-08-13 01:57:29 PM

vpb: Yes, that's our strategy for turning Texas into a blue state.

How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas?  No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.


They didn't think ahead before they blue themselves.
 
2013-08-13 02:01:03 PM
What kind of farking idiot moves from New England to Texas?

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-08-13 02:01:27 PM
I can't get (or git for Texans) the article to open.  Could someone post a synopsis (unknown word for Texans) so I can determine my level of outrage and/or amusement?
 
2013-08-13 02:03:31 PM
that sounds insanely idiotic, it's bad enough to raise regressive taxes like gasoline but to make a tax that requires the companies to figure out how and when to pay is asinine.
 
2013-08-13 02:05:47 PM

Infernalist: Texas wants your business!*


*unless you're hispanic, black, female, gay, atheistic, a democrat, educated and/or liberal in your thinking.


Or you think any regulation of business is a good thing. Right, West?
 
2013-08-13 02:08:07 PM

vpb: Yes, that's our strategy for turning Texas into a blue state.

How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas?  No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.


Liberals are truly a cancer.  They fark up their states (think California, Illinois) beyond repair and flee. They then try to turn their refuge into the same shiat hole they abandoned.
 
2013-08-13 02:09:52 PM

Nemo's Brother: vpb: Yes, that's our strategy for turning Texas into a blue state.

How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas?  No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.

Liberals are truly a cancer.  They fark up their states (think California, Illinois) beyond repair and flee. They then try to turn their refuge into the same shiat hole they abandoned.


I'm curious, what do you mean by 'fark up beyond repair'?  Be specific, please, so I'll have an easier time tearing apart your definitions.
 
2013-08-13 02:10:53 PM

Nemo's Brother: vpb: Yes, that's our strategy for turning Texas into a blue state.

How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas?  No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.

Liberals are truly a cancer.  They fark up their states (think California, Illinois) beyond repair and flee. They then try to turn their refuge into the same shiat hole they abandoned.


Yeah. Places like Atlanta, charlotte, and Raleigh sure are hellholes.
 
2013-08-13 02:14:26 PM

Tricky Chicken: I can't get (or git for Texans) the article to open.  Could someone post a synopsis (unknown word for Texans) so I can determine my level of outrage and/or amusement?


It's not even an article, it's more like a blog post urging people to sign a petition.  And the post mentions nothing about Texas, which was subby's interjection and I'm beginning to suspect subby is Rick Perry
 
2013-08-13 02:15:38 PM

Nemo's Brother: Liberals are truly a cancer.  They fark up their states (think California, Illinois) beyond repair and flee. They then try to turn their refuge into the same shiat hole they abandoned.


Yeah, those are the only two places where "liberals" are. And California is soooooo baaaaaad, ooooohhh noooo.
 
2013-08-13 02:18:09 PM
As a former resident of Texas (thank god it was only for six months) and a current resident of Massachusetts- TAKE MY MONEY. TAKE MY MONEY IF IT MEANS I DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK.
 
2013-08-13 02:20:33 PM

Mrtraveler01: Nemo's Brother: vpb: Yes, that's our strategy for turning Texas into a blue state.

How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas?  No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.

Liberals are truly a cancer.  They fark up their states (think California, Illinois) beyond repair and flee. They then try to turn their refuge into the same shiat hole they abandoned.

Yeah. Places like Atlanta, charlotte, and Raleigh sure are hellholes.


Depends on the place, really.
 
2013-08-13 02:21:38 PM
In all seriousness, the IT industry isn't overflowing with qualified personnel.  Sure, some of the heads of those companies might be tempted by simple stupid greed to move to a state like Texas because of its lower taxes, but most of their employees would not follow them.

And Texas itself is not exactly the Land of Milk and Honey when it comes to educated folk.  Let's face it, most of them are just a few steps above being functionally retarded.  And they're 'proud' of it.

There's a reason that the only place in Texas where IT flourishes is Austin, the most liberal city in the state...
 
2013-08-13 02:21:40 PM

LasersHurt: Nemo's Brother: Liberals are truly a cancer.  They fark up their states (think California, Illinois) beyond repair and flee. They then try to turn their refuge into the same shiat hole they abandoned.

Yeah, those are the only two places where "liberals" are. And California is soooooo baaaaaad, ooooohhh noooo.


Actually, the best of example of "Liberal Hell" would be Detroit.
 
2013-08-13 02:23:30 PM
The company I work for essentially owns Kendall Square in Cambridge (where more IT money is spent than anywhere else in the world), as well as numerous Massachusetts suburban office parks. No one here seems concerned about the impact on leasing. It didn't even come up during the internal Q2 call.
 
2013-08-13 02:24:09 PM

Hospitaller: LasersHurt: Nemo's Brother: Liberals are truly a cancer.  They fark up their states (think California, Illinois) beyond repair and flee. They then try to turn their refuge into the same shiat hole they abandoned.

Yeah, those are the only two places where "liberals" are. And California is soooooo baaaaaad, ooooohhh noooo.

Actually, the best of example of "Liberal Hell" would be Detroit.


I feel like you're kind of missing the point, entirely.
 
2013-08-13 02:28:53 PM
Wake me up when Texas opens up an equivalent to M.I.T.

/then send me some stationary for teh lulz
 
2013-08-13 02:32:30 PM

Cubicle Jockey: The company I work for essentially owns Kendall Square in Cambridge (where more IT money is spent than anywhere else in the world), as well as numerous Massachusetts suburban office parks. No one here seems concerned about the impact on leasing. It didn't even come up during the internal Q2 call.


Yup. I work for a big technology company too, and I hadn't even heard about this until today.
 
2013-08-13 02:34:42 PM
Not a problem, people won't have to move to Texas...Nashua, New Hampshire has already been a beneficiary of businesses fleeing Taxachusetts high taxes.  It's less than 50 miles from Boston...now they'll benefit even more.
 
2013-08-13 02:35:25 PM

fsud: Wake me up when Texas opens up an equivalent to M.I.T.

/then send me some stationary for teh lulz


MIT, Harvard, WPI, Babson, Tufts, UMass, BC, BU, Northeastern....
 
2013-08-13 02:35:32 PM

fsud: Wake me up when Texas opens up an equivalent to M.I.T.

/then send me some stationary for teh lulz


The UT system is actually breddy gud, especially UT Austin's Comp.Sci department.
 
2013-08-13 02:39:40 PM

Nemo's Brother: vpb: Yes, that's our strategy for turning Texas into a blue state.

How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas?  No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.

Liberals are truly a cancer.  They fark up their states (think California, Illinois) beyond repair and flee. They then try to turn their refuge into the same shiat hole they abandoned.


Is this where I point out which states tend to be net drains on the federal budget and which pay more than they get back in services?
 
2013-08-13 02:41:47 PM
As a lawyer with a tech background living and working in MA, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how a bill like this was ever written, let alone signed into law.  I thought people here were supposed to be smart.

I'm glad I don't practice this kind of law, because charging clients thousands of dollars to figure out how to comply with this abomination is now how I want to make my living.
 
2013-08-13 02:43:42 PM

Infernalist: In all seriousness, the IT industry isn't overflowing with qualified personnel.  Sure, some of the heads of those companies might be tempted by simple stupid greed to move to a state like Texas because of its lower taxes, but most of their employees would not follow them.

And Texas itself is not exactly the Land of Milk and Honey when it comes to educated folk.  Let's face it, most of them are just a few steps above being functionally retarded.  And they're 'proud' of it.

There's a reason that the only place in Texas where IT flourishes is Austin, the most liberal city in the state...


Dallas is far more liberal than Austin. The young republicans are well represented at UT.
 
2013-08-13 02:46:26 PM

mcreadyblue: Infernalist: In all seriousness, the IT industry isn't overflowing with qualified personnel.  Sure, some of the heads of those companies might be tempted by simple stupid greed to move to a state like Texas because of its lower taxes, but most of their employees would not follow them.

And Texas itself is not exactly the Land of Milk and Honey when it comes to educated folk.  Let's face it, most of them are just a few steps above being functionally retarded.  And they're 'proud' of it.

There's a reason that the only place in Texas where IT flourishes is Austin, the most liberal city in the state...

Dallas is far more liberal than Austin. The young republicans are well represented at UT.


So are they like, moderates or something?

Gross!
 
2013-08-13 02:48:45 PM

mcreadyblue: Infernalist: In all seriousness, the IT industry isn't overflowing with qualified personnel.  Sure, some of the heads of those companies might be tempted by simple stupid greed to move to a state like Texas because of its lower taxes, but most of their employees would not follow them.

And Texas itself is not exactly the Land of Milk and Honey when it comes to educated folk.  Let's face it, most of them are just a few steps above being functionally retarded.  And they're 'proud' of it.

There's a reason that the only place in Texas where IT flourishes is Austin, the most liberal city in the state...

Dallas is far more liberal than Austin. The young republicans are well represented at UT.


The old ones run Dallas. Or at least the affluent exurbs.
 
2013-08-13 02:48:56 PM

vpb: How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas? No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.


The folks at Rice University might disagree with you.

Or NASA.

Or MD Anderson (and any other number of cutting edge medical facilities in the state)

Shall I go on?

fsud: Wake me up when Texas opens up an equivalent to M.I.T.


See above.

Look man, why get all pissy about a company moving for economic reasons? Would you rather they go overseas or worse just close up shop?
 
2013-08-13 02:51:21 PM

mcreadyblue: Dallas is far more liberal than Austin. The young republicans are well represented at UT.


Travis county went 60.14% for Obama.
Dallas county went 57.11% for him.

So it's close, but Austin still holds the crown.
 
2013-08-13 02:54:21 PM

Tricky Chicken: Could someone post a synopsis (unknown word for Texans)


Oh, fark you.

'My synopsis really clogged with allerrgee...aligatornees...snot, today.'
 
2013-08-13 02:54:28 PM

Genevieve Marie: As a former resident of Texas (thank god it was only for six months) and a current resident of Massachusetts- TAKE MY MONEY. TAKE MY MONEY IF IT MEANS I DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK.


As a Texan who recently left Texas: fark that place.
 
2013-08-13 02:54:51 PM
The tax would have to be exceptionally stupid to outweigh all the universities in the area.
 
2013-08-13 02:58:12 PM

fsud: Wake me up when Texas opens up an equivalent to M.I.T.

/then send me some stationary for teh lulz


Im gonna have to issue a smug alert for your location sir.
 
2013-08-13 02:58:52 PM

Nemo's Brother: vpb: Yes, that's our strategy for turning Texas into a blue state.

How else are you going to get someone educated to move to Texas?  No one with any sort of talent or skill is going to move there by choice.

Liberals are truly a cancer.  They fark up their states (think California, Illinois) beyond repair and flee. They then try to turn their refuge into the same shiat hole they abandoned.


Chicago is Liberal - the rest of the state is Red - and it is the Chicago area that funds the rest of this freaking state - also, Illinois and California pay more to the federal government than they take in:  http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/11/states-federal-taxes-spen d ing-charts-maps

The other states are primarily blue ones, so... F you and your dumb ass
 
2013-08-13 03:06:36 PM
Lotta Farkers here don't understand why stupid shiat like this is EXACTLY why Texas is continuing to grow year after year even during economic downturns and why Texas is the second largest economy in the country and the nations' leader in interstate migration. No income tax, lower cost of living, beautiful scenery, plenty of room, etc.

So by all means, lob your cute little insults at Texas. Keeping taxing your state's businesses a little more. Don't come here. You'll be just fine.
 
2013-08-13 03:08:08 PM
I wonder how the gay, married executives from Mass will feel about a move to TX?
 
2013-08-13 03:10:14 PM

DeaH: I wonder how the gay, married executives from Mass will feel about a move to TX?


Dunno. They could ask Houston's lesbian Mayor about it at a dinner in the Montrose, one of  the nation's largest gay centers.
 
2013-08-13 03:12:47 PM
I know of at least one company that moved their data center out of Tennessee because the sales tax on just their SAP support was more expensive than the move.
 
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