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2013-08-13 08:18:41 AM
Too late shes damaged goods now
 
2013-08-13 08:19:52 AM
She's been Mark Fuhrman'd. Now her life is all farked up for no good reason.
 
2013-08-13 08:20:11 AM
Just so we're clear, my understanding is that this means not that they believe there was no racial discrimination taking place, but that the plaintiff is too white to be allowed an opinion. That right?
 
2013-08-13 08:20:25 AM
So we've learned that white people aren't allowed to be offended by other white people being racist. Makes sense.

Fark her with a stick of frozen butter >:(
 
2013-08-13 08:20:40 AM
Well, she's still a hypocritical greedy pig.

I say good riddance, sow.
 
2013-08-13 08:20:41 AM

Oldiron_79: Too late shes damaged goods now


Well, this doesn't really settle whether there was a racist environment, only that the white Plaintiff can't sue for a racially discriminatory environment against black people.  Because she's white.
 
2013-08-13 08:23:02 AM
The judge didn't say she isn't guilty of it, only that you can't sue a person for an action when you are not one of the victims of that action.
 
2013-08-13 08:23:13 AM

Blasphemous Knave: Just so we're clear, my understanding is that this means not that they believe there was no racial discrimination taking place, but that the plaintiff is too white to be allowed an opinion. That right?


That's it.
 
2013-08-13 08:24:02 AM

Paula Dean


Good job, tardmitter. You misspelled the name of the principal character even though the name is in the link you submitted.
 
2013-08-13 08:24:13 AM

QueenMamaBee: So we've learned that white people aren't allowed to be offended by other white people being racist. Makes sense.

Fark her with a stick of frozen butter >:(


Basically, yes.  IANAL, but it seems like a white plaintiff wouldn't have any standing here.  You can't sue somebody for something that didn't affect you.  She can still be sued successfully if someone from a protected class that had been discriminated against based on race, creed, etc. wants to come forward.
 
2013-08-13 08:24:23 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: She's been Mark Fuhrman'd. Now her life is all farked up for no good reason.


She's clearly a victim of Northern Aggression.
 
2013-08-13 08:26:49 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: She's been Mark Fuhrman'd. Now her life is all farked up for no good reason.


She is going to go get a job on Fox News?
 
2013-08-13 08:27:16 AM

Carth: AverageAmericanGuy: She's been Mark Fuhrman'd. Now her life is all farked up for no good reason.

She is going to go get a job on Fox News?


It may be the only thing still available to her now.
 
2013-08-13 08:28:38 AM
I'll bet she regrets not taking that dancing with the stars gig
 
2013-08-13 08:29:26 AM
So these claims are nothing more than extremities which can be cut off so we can save her core character?
 
2013-08-13 08:30:16 AM

nutkick_42: QueenMamaBee: So we've learned that white people aren't allowed to be offended by other white people being racist. Makes sense.

Fark her with a stick of frozen butter >:(

Basically, yes.  IANAL, but it seems like a white plaintiff wouldn't have any standing here.  You can't sue somebody for something that didn't affect you.  She can still be sued successfully if someone from a protected class that had been discriminated against based on race, creed, etc. wants to come forward.


But I'm white and racist people make me feel icky inside.

Can't I sue someone for that???
 
2013-08-13 08:30:58 AM

nutkick_42: QueenMamaBee: So we've learned that white people aren't allowed to be offended by other white people being racist. Makes sense.

Fark her with a stick of frozen butter >:(

Basically, yes.  IANAL, but it seems like a white plaintiff wouldn't have any standing here.  You can't sue somebody for something that didn't affect you.  She can still be sued successfully if someone from a protected class that had been discriminated against based on race, creed, etc. wants to come forward.


I can see your point, but as a white person with friends of different races, I'm pretty sure I'd still feel harassed by that. Either way, I hope someone else comes forward and nails her ass to the wall
 
2013-08-13 08:31:24 AM
Her  old shows are still being aired on some channel called GAC.
 
2013-08-13 08:33:56 AM
The whole thing is batsheet insane. Deen didn't lynch anyone, she used a poor choice of words. She said she was sorry. STFU about it, don't crucify her.  I did the same thing once, got called in front of the state for it, and got the last laugh, because the guy was STUPID, AND INCOMPETENT, and I had the proof. I wasn't even tralking to him when I used "that" word.

Oh.......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..butter.
 
2013-08-13 08:35:49 AM

BlackMtnMan: The whole thing is batsheet insane. Deen didn't lynch anyone, she used a poor choice of words. She said she was sorry. STFU about it, don't crucify her.  I did the same thing once, got called in front of the state for it, and got the last laugh, because the guy was STUPID, AND INCOMPETENT, and I had the proof. I wasn't even tralking to him when I used "that" word.

Oh.......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..butter.


Have you read the complaint? It's way more than a one-time use of the wrong word.
 
2013-08-13 08:36:22 AM

QueenMamaBee: nutkick_42: QueenMamaBee: So we've learned that white people aren't allowed to be offended by other white people being racist. Makes sense.

Fark her with a stick of frozen butter >:(

Basically, yes.  IANAL, but it seems like a white plaintiff wouldn't have any standing here.  You can't sue somebody for something that didn't affect you.  She can still be sued successfully if someone from a protected class that had been discriminated against based on race, creed, etc. wants to come forward.

I can see your point, but as a white person with friends of different races, I'm pretty sure I'd still feel harassed by that. Either way, I hope someone else comes forward and nails her ass to the wall

PROTECTED CLASS???????????? WTF IS THAT?

 
2013-08-13 08:36:40 AM

Truther: nutkick_42: QueenMamaBee: So we've learned that white people aren't allowed to be offended by other white people being racist. Makes sense.

Fark her with a stick of frozen butter >:(

Basically, yes.  IANAL, but it seems like a white plaintiff wouldn't have any standing here.  You can't sue somebody for something that didn't affect you.  She can still be sued successfully if someone from a protected class that had been discriminated against based on race, creed, etc. wants to come forward.

But I'm white and racist people make me feel icky inside.

Can't I sue someone for that???


Well, you might be able to come up with something like hostile work environment or something. Its a slim chance, but an argument could be made (not necessarily before a judge).

What you can't do is sue foe discrimination when you aren't being discriminated against.
 
2013-08-13 08:36:48 AM

cookiefleck: Her  old shows are still being aired on some channel called GAC.


s12.postimg.org
 
2013-08-13 08:38:05 AM

BlackMtnMan: The whole thing is batsheet insane. Deen didn't lynch anyone, she used a poor choice of words. She said she was sorry. STFU about it, don't crucify her.  I did the same thing once, got called in front of the state for it, and got the last laugh, because the guy was STUPID, AND INCOMPETENT, and I had the proof. I wasn't even tralking to him when I used "that" word.

Oh.......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..butter.


So why did you use that word in the first place?
 
2013-08-13 08:38:50 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: She's been Mark Fuhrman'd. Now her life is all farked up for no good reason.


Except that the claims were thrown out because the complainer was white. You are assuming they were thrown out because she ruled them untrue.
 
2013-08-13 08:40:30 AM
SSB:
I was getting a shot yesterday and two older gentleman were going on and on about Treyvon Martin and our current president and his family and how they were the real racists etc etc. I was in disbelief that two people felt so comfortable saying such horrible things out loud in a crowded waiting rroom. Was actually relieved to be called in to get my shot. Which hurt and made my arm sore.
 
2013-08-13 08:42:19 AM
So we've learned that white people aren't allowed to be offended by other white people being racist. Makes sense.


No, we learned the whole thing was complete bullshiat and a waste of farking court time. Next.
 
2013-08-13 08:43:03 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: AverageAmericanGuy: She's been Mark Fuhrman'd. Now her life is all farked up for no good reason.

Except that the claims were thrown out because the complainer was white. You are assuming they were thrown out because she ruled them untrue.


No, I have no doubt the claims are true. But the accusations stink of opportunistic character assassination.
 
2013-08-13 08:43:42 AM
graphics8.nytimes.com
That shaking you felt was her restaurant patrons jumping in celebration.  Three blown knees and a punctured Nike Air Max shoe were sustained in the celebratory stampede.
 
2013-08-13 08:48:43 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: PC LOAD LETTER: AverageAmericanGuy: She's been Mark Fuhrman'd. Now her life is all farked up for no good reason.

Except that the claims were thrown out because the complainer was white. You are assuming they were thrown out because she ruled them untrue.

No, I have no doubt the claims are true. But the accusations stink of opportunistic character assassination.


You say that like it's a bad thing. While it's trial by public outrage, PD clearly has no character to assassinate, and wishes people would just let her continue to be an overt bigot at her workplace.
 
2013-08-13 08:51:22 AM

Blasphemous Knave: Just so we're clear, my understanding is that this means not that they believe there was no racial discrimination taking place, but that the plaintiff is too white to be allowed an opinion. That right?


Not quite. She could not show she was the victim I the discrimination she alleged. They should have just thrown a nuisance value settlement at her from the jump, but I guess no one could have foreseen the shiatstorm that would ensue when he admitted to using a racial slur behind closed doors heard by no one to whom the epithet would apply 25 years ago.
 
2013-08-13 08:52:45 AM

nutkick_42: QueenMamaBee: So we've learned that white people aren't allowed to be offended by other white people being racist. Makes sense.

Fark her with a stick of frozen butter >:(

Basically, yes.  IANAL, but it seems like a white plaintiff wouldn't have any standing here.  You can't sue somebody for something that didn't affect you.  She can still be sued successfully if someone from a protected class that had been discriminated against based on race, creed, etc. wants to come forward.


True - but a lot of people, even though they know better, will claim it is "because she is white", consistent with the latest piece of mind vomit that the Right is puking into America's face - that whites are actually the chief victims of racism in America.
 
2013-08-13 08:54:15 AM

Rapmaster2000: That shaking you felt was her restaurant patrons jumping in celebration.  Three blown knees and a punctured Nike Air Max shoe were sustained in the celebratory stampede.


Picking on black people is wrong!

/but man those fatties are so fun to ridicule...

(yeah yeah Black people don't "Choose" to be black. But a majority of them "Choose" to play right into the stereotypes...)
 
2013-08-13 08:56:13 AM

Nabb1: Blasphemous Knave: Just so we're clear, my understanding is that this means not that they believe there was no racial discrimination taking place, but that the plaintiff is too white to be allowed an opinion. That right?

Not quite. She could not show she was the victim I the discrimination she alleged. They should have just thrown a nuisance value settlement at her from the jump, but I guess no one could have foreseen the shiatstorm that would ensue when he admitted to using a racial slur behind closed doors heard by no one to whom the epithet would apply 25 years ago.


Aw. poor stupid old redneck biatch. I guess she'll just have to crawl off to her hole and suffer the pain of spending the millions she's made poisoning America with garbage.
I'll save my sympathy for someone who is within a light-year of deserving it.
 
2013-08-13 09:01:50 AM
Dumb farks just can't get over it can you?
 
2013-08-13 09:02:25 AM
I used to think that anyone who supported Paula Deen in this was a mouthbreathing idiot who couldn't read the articles and didn't understand why the N word would be a problem, and I still do.
 
2013-08-13 09:04:25 AM
1. The plaintiff's sexual harrassment suit will proceed.

2. Paula Deen wasn't being sued because she said the "N-word" decades ago, but because she fostered a racially and sexually demeaning work environment, that the local manager (the plaintiff) had to deal with up until quite recently.

3. The racial discrimination lawsuit was dismissed because the manager, not being the direct object of racial discrimination, had no grounds for a complaint, however the judge allowed that such a suit could be  brought by one of the employees that directly faced the discrimination.

Try to look at Paula Deen not as a victim of "PC gone wild," or a linguistic witch hunt, but as a really terrible boss that sh*ts all over her workers and does unethical and, allegedly illegal things regularly.  She's not your friend, she's not your Auntie... she's just a sh*tty boss.
 
2013-08-13 09:04:35 AM

Nabb1: Blasphemous Knave: Just so we're clear, my understanding is that this means not that they believe there was no racial discrimination taking place, but that the plaintiff is too white to be allowed an opinion. That right?

Not quite. She could not show she was the victim I the discrimination she alleged. They should have just thrown a nuisance value settlement at her from the jump, but I guess no one could have foreseen the shiatstorm that would ensue when he admitted to using a racial slur behind closed doors heard by no one to whom the epithet would apply 25 years ago.


The full allegations read out as pages of rather unpleasant and systematic abuse, not a one-time use of an epithet behind closed doors. Thus, following my herd-like inclination to trust the nice old lady on the teevee, I had hoped they were thrown out on more than a technicality.
 
2013-08-13 09:04:54 AM

jso2897: Nabb1: Blasphemous Knave: Just so we're clear, my understanding is that this means not that they believe there was no racial discrimination taking place, but that the plaintiff is too white to be allowed an opinion. That right?

Not quite. She could not show she was the victim I the discrimination she alleged. They should have just thrown a nuisance value settlement at her from the jump, but I guess no one could have foreseen the shiatstorm that would ensue when he admitted to using a racial slur behind closed doors heard by no one to whom the epithet would apply 25 years ago.

Aw. poor stupid old redneck biatch. I guess she'll just have to crawl off to her hole and suffer the pain of spending the millions she's made poisoning America with garbage.
I'll save my sympathy for someone who is within a light-year of deserving it.


LOL I knew I had you farkied as "mud shark" for a reason.
 
2013-08-13 09:05:24 AM

Truther: Rapmaster2000: That shaking you felt was her restaurant patrons jumping in celebration.  Three blown knees and a punctured Nike Air Max shoe were sustained in the celebratory stampede.

Picking on black people is wrong!

/but man those fatties are so fun to ridicule...

(yeah yeah Black people don't "Choose" to be black. But a majority of them "Choose" to play right into the stereotypes...)


You sound fat.
 
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2013-08-13 09:18:30 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: No, I have no doubt the claims are true. But the accusations stink of opportunistic character assassination.


Everyone knew where and what generation she is from.  It would be a pretty rare to have a white person from Georgia of that age who didn't have the same opinions as her.
 
2013-08-13 09:19:41 AM
I used to think that anyone who supported Paula Deen in this was a mouthbreathing idiot who couldn't read the articles and didn't understand why the N word would be a problem, and I still do.


doubtful.
 
2013-08-13 09:21:42 AM

vpb: AverageAmericanGuy: No, I have no doubt the claims are true. But the accusations stink of opportunistic character assassination.

Everyone knew where and what generation she is from.  It would be a pretty rare to have a white person from Georgia of that age who didn't have the same opinions as her.


Which doesn't make it right. But it's hardly something to completely ruin her life over.
 
2013-08-13 09:27:28 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: vpb: AverageAmericanGuy: No, I have no doubt the claims are true. But the accusations stink of opportunistic character assassination.

Everyone knew where and what generation she is from.  It would be a pretty rare to have a white person from Georgia of that age who didn't have the same opinions as her.

Which doesn't make it right. But it's hardly something to completely ruin her life over.


If the full allegations were true, which we may never know, I'd be okay with it ruining her life. The trouble with this story is some people hear "Paula Deen is being tarred and feathered because she used the n-word once!" and some people actually read everything she's being accused of in court. Unfortunately, there's a catch-22: those allegations are so lengthy, detailed, and terrible it reaches a kind of Poe's Law critical mass; I can't decide if it's a case of really shiatty management and general awfulness, or a case of a really disgruntled employee.
 
2013-08-13 09:36:32 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: vpb: AverageAmericanGuy: No, I have no doubt the claims are true. But the accusations stink of opportunistic character assassination.

Everyone knew where and what generation she is from.  It would be a pretty rare to have a white person from Georgia of that age who didn't have the same opinions as her.

Which doesn't make it right. But it's hardly something to completely ruin her life over.


I am a big fan of free speech working in both directions. She's free to say what she wants where she wants it if she's ok with living the public outcry that inevitably results from it. Freedom of speech doesn't mean no one can call you on your crap in a loud and very public manner.
 
2013-08-13 09:38:00 AM

Blasphemous Knave: Unfortunately, there's a catch-22: those allegations are so lengthy, detailed, and terrible it reaches a kind of Poe's Law critical mass; I can't decide if it's a case of really shiatty management and general awfulness, or a case of a really disgruntled employee.


The case against her for sexual harassment is going to proceed, so you should at least get a bit of closure on that nagging doubt.
 
2013-08-13 09:38:50 AM

jso2897: Aw. poor stupid old redneck biatch.


Kinda funny when people use racial slurs to complain about people supposedly using racial slurs.
 
2013-08-13 09:44:51 AM
"Lisa Jackson sued Deen and her brother, Bubba Hiers, last year saying she was subjected to sexual harassment and racist attitudes during the five years she worked at their restaurant, Uncle Bubba's Seafood and Oyster House."

It must have been really bad if she stuck around for five years.


"But U.S. District Court Judge William T. Moore Jr. ruled Monday that Jackson, who is white, has no standing to sue them for race discrimination."

So, does that mean we can get rid of the ACLU and kick all whites out of the NAACP? They have no standing to sue for discrimination against blacks either then. Does that mean the Civil War never happened? Lincoln had no standing to start a war over slavery because he wasn't black.

The case has no standing regardless. If you don't like your job, quit. They will no out of business because no one will work there or because they'll attract such low quality talent that their product will suffer. No one has a right to interfere in someone else's business.
 
2013-08-13 09:46:04 AM

Truther: But I'm white and racist people make me feel icky inside.

Can't I sue someone for that???


Should probably stop letting racist people inside you then. No one to blame but yourself.
 
2013-08-13 09:48:18 AM

BlackMtnMan: PROTECTED CLASS???????????? WTF IS THAT?


See, blacks, mexicans, gays and womens think they're better than everyone else and deserve extra rights that white men don't get. Because it isn't equal until whites are less equal.

I guess it is because blacks invented slavery and feel bad about it.
 
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