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(National Review)   Slate, New Republic and Mother Jones refuse to print "Redskins." "If we're feeling sassy we'll call them 'The Washington [Redacted]'"   (nationalreview.com ) divider line
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2013-08-13 09:40:58 PM  

GRCooper: Ferrari? Ranked 15th.


It takes a lot of money to dictate the terms of the Concorde Agreement.  Bribing Bernie isn't cheap, either.
 
2013-08-13 09:48:39 PM  
I'm sorry, I'm about as liberal as they come, but (Jeez, look at me, doing that thing I hate...) if they're gonna not say Redskins, they better go whole hog and not call the Atlanta baseball team the Braves, the Cleveland baseball team the Indians or the Tribe, the Chicago hockey team the Blackhawks, the Florida State University football team the Seminoles or the University of Utah football team the Utes.
 
2013-08-13 09:51:38 PM  

BigJake: Dafatone: How does that make sense?

It makes more sense than allowing the fruit bats of the world to dictate how the rest of us live our lives. I don't care if that woman thinks it looks like a noose, and I'm not going to go a single step out of my way to mollify her burgeoning mental illness. I'm also not going to stop doing about a billion things the religious right would like for people to stop doing, or anti-[insert cause here] activists would like me to stop doing, or a toothless HOA would like me to stop doing within reason. Opinions are like assholes as they say, but it feels like more and more of the time someone else having an opinion about something means YOU need to Stop (or Start) Doing Things. No, I'm not gonna go veg. No, I'm not gonna stop using birth control. No, I'm not gonna take down a thing that looks like a noose in your eyes only. No, I'm not buying a Prius as my next vehicle. No, I'm not gonna get really angry about having a black president. BACK THE FARK OFF.

(please note that final line isn't directed at you specifically)


Part of the problem is the internet.  You hear about tons and tons and tons of people asking neighbors to take down ornaments, and suddenly it seems like everyone is complaining about something.  When in reality, almost all of these incidents have nothing to do with you and are nowhere near your world, and the woman complaining about a "noose" isn't 10,000 women angry at 10,000 "nooses", but one woman with one problem in her world.
 
2013-08-13 10:10:26 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Yeah, but are they referring to [redacted] as womyn? Because if not, they're just mere tools of The Patriarchy.


You sound like someone who hasn't read Slate's XX blogs.
 
2013-08-13 10:17:00 PM  

GRCooper: Theaetetus: GRCooper: No, there's no reason to change one of the most successful/popular brands *in the world* because it offends some people.

The bigger question is should the government protect such a successful brand, in spite of the fact that it's a racist slur? Maybe the owners can keep using it if they want, but should they have federal protection on the mark?

Despite the fact that "racist slur" is entirely subjective?


Just because you say something is a fact doesn't mean it's true.
 
2013-08-13 10:19:10 PM  

crotchgrabber: FlashHarry: i'm a big fan of tradition, but "redskin" is pretty much the native american version of "spearchucker."

I grew up on a reservation and was unaware for years that I was supposed to be offended by the term "redskin"

It still doesn't bother me one bit.


Spoiler alert: You're not the king of Native American people.
 
2013-08-13 11:16:11 PM  

IlGreven: I'm sorry, I'm about as liberal as they come, but (Jeez, look at me, doing that thing I hate...) if they're gonna not say Redskins, they better go whole hog and not call the Atlanta baseball team the Braves, the Cleveland baseball team the Indians or the Tribe, the Chicago hockey team the Blackhawks, the Florida State University football team the Seminoles or the University of Utah football team the Utes.


Those are racial slurs?
 
2013-08-14 12:43:15 AM  
I didn't know Mother Jones had a sports section.
 
2013-08-14 02:09:23 AM  

FlashHarry: i'm a big fan of tradition, but "redskin" is pretty much the native american version of "spearchucker."


They used to throw the javelin?
 
2013-08-14 08:03:16 AM  

meanmutton: IlGreven: I'm sorry, I'm about as liberal as they come, but (Jeez, look at me, doing that thing I hate...) if they're gonna not say Redskins, they better go whole hog and not call the Atlanta baseball team the Braves, the Cleveland baseball team the Indians or the Tribe, the Chicago hockey team the Blackhawks, the Florida State University football team the Seminoles or the University of Utah football team the Utes.

Those are racial slurs?


In context, yes. Let's see what we have: The Seminoles and the Braves have a rather famous tune where they do a tomahawk chop in time with the music (and the Braves have a laughing Indian as a mascot)...the Indians are nicknamed the Tribe and have a super-smiley red-faced mascot; The Blackhawks have a similar mascot to the Redskins; and naming yourself after a local tribe isn't kosher, even if they approve. It'd be like if the New Orleans basketball team had renamed themselves the Creoles, or worse, the Sambos.
 
2013-08-14 09:59:47 AM  

IlGreven: meanmutton: IlGreven: I'm sorry, I'm about as liberal as they come, but (Jeez, look at me, doing that thing I hate...) if they're gonna not say Redskins, they better go whole hog and not call the Atlanta baseball team the Braves, the Cleveland baseball team the Indians or the Tribe, the Chicago hockey team the Blackhawks, the Florida State University football team the Seminoles or the University of Utah football team the Utes.

Those are racial slurs?

In context, yes. Let's see what we have: The Seminoles and the Braves have a rather famous tune where they do a tomahawk chop in time with the music (and the Braves have a laughing Indian as a mascot)...the Indians are nicknamed the Tribe and have a super-smiley red-faced mascot; The Blackhawks have a similar mascot to the Redskins; and naming yourself after a local tribe isn't kosher, even if they approve. It'd be like if the New Orleans basketball team had renamed themselves the Creoles, or worse, the Sambos.


Or Octaroons or Mandingos.
 
2013-08-14 11:08:23 AM  

IlGreven: The Blackhawks have a similar mascot to the Redskins; and naming yourself after a local tribe isn't kosher, even if they approve. It'd be like if the New Orleans basketball team had renamed themselves the Creoles, or worse, the Sambos.


Why? I'm interested in your rationale. (Honestly.)

Also, I'm not sure why "Creoles" would be especially offensive if Creole folks had a hand in the naming; that's a neutral term, while "Sambos" is not. Are the Ragin' Cajuns offensive, or is your position that it's only bad when ethnically-based team nicknames refer to people of color (even when they're OK with it) because of the potential oppressive implications and potential for fans to be racist shiatheads about it?

There are pretty clear-cut cases of "wow, that's racist" like the Redskins and the Chief Wahoo logo. In best-case scenarios, though, ethnic team names can serve as sincere expressions of local identity pride, community collaboration (cf. the few teams where Native Americans play an active role in shaping team imagery and such), and Native visibility.
 
2013-08-14 11:14:42 AM  

bacongood: cman: Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that those who are biatching the loudest about using the "Redskin" name are really damn white?

That may be because we have done a pretty good job of making sure those who would actually be offended have zero voice.

/honestly thinks every home crowd should chant "racist nickname" whenever the Redskins come to town.


Stop with the infantalizing. Who elected you to determine what should offend certain people, and that they are powerless to speak for themselves? Whether they realize it or not, a lot of "white guilt" liberals are pretty racist themselves, but just in a different way.
 
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