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(Snopes)   No, the Obamas did not send a plane with just Bo to Maine. Now that that is settled, we can get back to important things... What's George Zimmerman been up to?   (snopes.com) divider line 21
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2013-08-13 08:48:23 AM
3 votes:

Neighborhood Watch: The Obamas are greedily scooping up all the 'reparations' they can grab between somber speeches about the need for personal sacrifice and how much 'ordinary' Americans are suffering.


I've never called anyone a racist in my life, giving to believe the word is somewhat overused.

You're a racist.
2013-08-13 07:55:22 AM
3 votes:

RevRaven: The link doesn't address any of the current claims, however. Plus, Snopes is disingenuous: example, on the page about "Did Al Gore say he invented the Interner" ( http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp ) they say it's false, yet in the same article they use the quote from CNN where Gore said "I took the initiative in creating the Internet". So according to Snopes, he never said he "invented" the Internet, yet he did try to claim credit for "creating" it, but that's two different things.

So yes, the link doesn't do anything to refute any current claims that a helicopter was used to escort the First Dog, only old stores that are several years old. Plus, given Snopes disingenuous nature, they might say that it was false because it wasn't a plane, it was a helicopter. Just like Gore never said he "invented" the Internet, just "created" it.


So, when Gore was a Senator, he didn't create a bill to fund the beginnings of the internet or other policies and bills designed to move it forward? How is the Snopes article disingenuous?
2013-08-13 11:49:29 AM
2 votes:

RevRaven: However, that is quite different from "creating the Internet" as he said on CNN, wherein he was hoping to capitalize on people believing he helped create as in engineer the Internet. That part, the "creating the Internet" part, he did say. There's no way around it.


So basically your argument is this: you understand perfectly what he meant, and you agree that what he meant is completely valid. However, your amazing telepathic abilities allow you to determine that his secret intent was to have people less smart than you misunderstand him and infer something entirely different? And furthermore, the astounding reach of your telepathy allows you to discover that many people, none of whom you have ever met or discussed this, did indeed fall for his clever misdirection?

Seriously, that's your position? Because I have to tell you, it's not making you sound very smart.
2013-08-13 11:40:23 AM
2 votes:

Neighborhood Watch: FLMountainMan: I really wish we could accept that someone who disagrees with you about the role of government in American society is not automatically evil and morally inferior.


Do you interact with Fark LiberalsTM much?


Well if you spent your time making cogent points about the role of government in society instead of witticism like "moochelle," birtherism and "reparations" you would be engaged at the that level.  But since you don't people treat you like a clown, because you are, in fact, a clown.  Clowns are fun to laugh at.
2013-08-13 08:02:09 AM
2 votes:
RevRaven:wherein he was hoping to capitalize on people believing he helped create as in engineer the Internet.

And you are saying that snopes is disingenuous?  Dude, you are just seeing what you want to see.
2013-08-13 07:16:40 AM
2 votes:
Still better than the Romneys, who would have strapped the dog to the roof of the plane.
2013-08-13 01:30:40 PM
1 votes:

Neighborhood Watch: SamWaters: I hear Romney's dog is jealous.  He got transported on the top of a station wagon during a family vacation.


Yeah, but they weren't rich (they didn't have Airforce One or a $100,0000 a year 'dog handler', either) and the dog liked it.

But they didn't eat him.  So there's that.


/btw, does the $100,000 a year 'dog handler' get to party on these royal vacations as well, or is the dog not 'handled' during this time period?


I honestly feel kind of bad for you:  http://wafflesatnoon.com/2013/02/26/does-obama-pay-dog-trainer-102000 - at-tax-payer-expense/

"As evidence of sloppy research, Gray at one point in his book refers to the White House paying $102,000 to a man who walks Obama's dog, saying that one point the "handler" was flown to Maine with the dog. (This anecdote also ended up in the Daily Caller article.)

This appears to refer to Reggie Love, then the president's personal assistant, who was once spotted taking the dog off an airplane. But the local Maine newspaper initially misreported that Love and the dog were flown on their own airplane. The article was corrected,  but not before the blogosphere looked up Love's salary and went wild with the tale of the $102,000-a-year dog handler. "
2013-08-13 11:28:39 AM
1 votes:

FLMountainMan: I really wish we could accept that someone who disagrees with you about the role of government in American society is not automatically evil and morally inferior.



Do you interact with Fark LiberalsTM much?
2013-08-13 11:28:12 AM
1 votes:

trey101: yep, he just flies on helicopters.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/10236302/First -d og-Bo-is-airlifted-to-Obama-holiday-home.html

just in case it doesnt link it...   http://bit.ly/1cFyekj


according to your article it was once in one of the secret service ospreys (not a helicopter) that were coming anyways.

What a scandal!
2013-08-13 11:21:26 AM
1 votes:
I never voted for Obama and disagree with his politics, but do we have to go into this shiat?  Is it really relevant?  Does him flying the dog there validate the principles of small-government conservatism?  I know I sound naïve as shiat, and being in government myself I should know better, but I really wish we could accept that someone who disagrees with you about the role of government in American society is not automatically evil and morally inferior.  They just have a different opinion.  Sometimes, a different subculture.  Why's that such a big deal?
2013-08-13 09:17:46 AM
1 votes:

RevRaven: IlGreven: Those two sentences are contradictory. The second shows you do not get what he was saying, else you'd agree with Snopes' assessment.

Nope, I totally get it. He helped sponsor and pass funding that allowed the Internet to move from the hands of government to the private sector, which allowed for our modern Internet to come to be. However, that is quite different from "creating the Internet" as he said on CNN, wherein he was hoping to capitalize on people believing he helped create as in engineer the Internet. That part, the "creating the Internet" part, he did say. There's no way around it.


So you admit that without Al Gore the internet would not exist as it does today - that he played some part in bringing it about.  However, you're taking issue with something he didn't actually say, something only you heard - that he was the only person going around the country running wires and setting up routers.

This seems to be a common theme with conservatives - arguing not about what someone actually said or did, but instead about something only you heard from the voices in your head.  That's how we get a debate over whether Obama called Benghazi terrorism or whether 'acts of terror' in a Benghazi speech meant only other incidents.  It's how we get Ron Paul debating a actor in blackface.  It's how Clint Eastwood gets standing ovations for debating a chair.

Can anyone give me the technical name for this habit?  Because it seems to be quite common with conservatives and I'd like a proper noun for it.
2013-08-13 08:47:04 AM
1 votes:

Neighborhood Watch: dr_blasto: How spectacularly droll.


No, what's 'droll' is Moochelle claiming 'Barack isn't going to let you live the way you used to live'.  And our precious little king saying that 'other countries aren't going to put up with us driving big cars and keeping our thermostats where we want them'.

It's the same hypocritical bullsh*t with all limousine liberals (especially Gore).  Remember Streisand lecturing Americans about hanging clotheslines instead of using electricity to dry clothes?  Do you see any clotheslines behind her beachfront mansion?

The Obamas are greedily scooping up all the 'reparations' they can grab between somber speeches about the need for personal sacrifice and how much 'ordinary' Americans are suffering.  That's why nobody listens to our 'royal family' anymore.


Holy moly. This is great. It has "Moochelle" and "...precious little king!" Shine on crazy pants!

One day, maybe, you'll reconnect with reality and will probably be better off for it. Until then, keep the hits coming; the entertainment from posts utterly devoid of substantive arguments and positively dripping with barely-masked hatred are thoroughly fun to read.
2013-08-13 08:43:19 AM
1 votes:

RevRaven: IlGreven: Those two sentences are contradictory. The second shows you do not get what he was saying, else you'd agree with Snopes' assessment.

Nope, I totally get it. He helped sponsor and pass funding that allowed the Internet to move from the hands of government to the private sector, which allowed for our modern Internet to come to be. However, that is quite different from "creating the Internet" as he said on CNN, wherein he was hoping to capitalize on people believing he helped create as in engineer the Internet. That part, the "creating the Internet" part, he did say. There's no way around it.


Nope, no way around it.
Unless you include the beginning of the sentence where he says "I took the initiative in" which changes the meaning.
2013-08-13 08:38:53 AM
1 votes:

Satan's Bunny Slippers: wait, I thought this was about the dog.  What does Al have to do with it all?

geez, the derp can't even stay on topic anymore.


You don't understand. Al Gore didn't actually claim to invent the internet. Therefore, it stands to reason that Bo flies regularly on a chartered Sopwith Camel, dog-fighting the Red Baron in an attempt to show Obama as anti-communist. But see, we never SAID he was a communist! He's a socialist! And that's where it all falls apart!
2013-08-13 08:00:27 AM
1 votes:

RevRaven: Yep, and I'm a Network Engineer, and I get what he was saying


Well, there you have it!  I know of no better scholar of Congressional actions, such as the HPCA of 1991, that helped accelerate relatively obscure and specialized networks into the Internet and the applications we use to access it today.
2013-08-13 07:56:49 AM
1 votes:
Well this thread got stupid fast.
2013-08-13 07:48:27 AM
1 votes:

RevRaven: cman: Did you actually read the whole damn thing?

If you take it in its context it makes sense.

Bad wording has plagued politicians since the dawn of time.

Yep, and I'm a Network Engineer, and I get what he was saying. However that doesn't change the fact that he was trying to claim credit for creating the Internet. Bad wording/stupid voters work both ways. To some of the less technically inclined people he was saying he created the Internet. He actually said that, hoping people would buy it.

But it doesn't change the fact that he said "I took the initiative in creating the Internet"


I think Al Gore is a bad person and a charlatan; but, credit where it is due, the internet would not be where it is as fast as it got here without Al Gores direct participation in funding it.  That is a fact.
2013-08-13 07:40:48 AM
1 votes:

cman: Well, I guess we move the goalposts, then:

Obama is a terrible dog owner for not having his dog travel with his adopted Family the Obamas


The WND commenters have said exactly that.  Nice call cman.
2013-08-13 07:30:06 AM
1 votes:

RevRaven: The link doesn't address any of the current claims, however. Plus, Snopes is disingenuous: example, on the page about "Did Al Gore say he invented the Interner" ( http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp ) they say it's false, yet in the same article they use the quote from CNN where Gore said "I took the initiative in creating the Internet". So according to Snopes, he never said he "invented" the Internet, yet he did try to claim credit for "creating" it, but that's two different things.

So yes, the link doesn't do anything to refute any current claims that a helicopter was used to escort the First Dog, only old stores that are several years old. Plus, given Snopes disingenuous nature, they might say that it was false because it wasn't a plane, it was a helicopter. Just like Gore never said he "invented" the Internet, just "created" it.


Did you actually read the whole damn thing?

If you take it in its context it makes sense.

Bad wording has plagued politicians since the dawn of time.
2013-08-13 07:20:29 AM
1 votes:
George Zimmerman drove Bo up to Maine, stopping only to cure cancer along the way.
2013-08-13 06:43:59 AM
1 votes:
Well, I guess we move the goalposts, then:

Obama is a terrible dog owner for not having his dog travel with his adopted Family the Obamas
 
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