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(The Consumerist)   Apple: You paid for season 5 of Breaking Bad ... but this is season 5.5, PAY UP   (consumerist.com) divider line 91
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2013-08-12 07:36:20 PM
FTA: "Last year, he bought season 5 of "Breaking Bad" on iTunes, which means  he inferred meantthat the fresh episodes should show up on his Apple TV at the same time they air on cable. "

/FTFTA
//Read the fine print, asshole.
 
2013-08-12 07:37:12 PM
Figures they and others will try to cash in on the split season, why waste an opportunity to gouge the consumer?
 
2013-08-12 07:37:16 PM
Pretty sure Apple isn't the one who decides how to package and sell them.
 
2013-08-12 07:39:25 PM
My Amazon VOD didn't resume season pass on these last 8 episodes. But I knew I was going to pay for the either way
 
2013-08-12 07:41:52 PM
So...I guess we're gonna see 8-episode "seasons" of popular shows more often now. They're not mistaken. They're trying to set a precedent.
 
2013-08-12 07:44:22 PM
Yeah, this is fairly normal with iTunes.  What you think of as a season and what Apple thinks of as a season aren't necessarily the same.  Most notable with kids' shows - Phineas and Ferb just started season 4.  Or, as Apple calls it, season 9.  (And before you claim this is the studio - Amazon doesn't tend to do the same IME.)

On the plus side (what there is of it), they generally charge based on how many episodes you get, so it's not like you paid for a 20-episode season and then got 10.
 
2013-08-12 07:45:19 PM
Most split seasons have only a month or 2 off. BB had an entire year off between. Sorry don't feel bad for these people
 
2013-08-12 07:49:46 PM
Did Apple have to pay for the final season? Was it included in season 5 for them? Most likely they did have to pay for it as a separate season, so you will have to pay also. Deal with it.
 
2013-08-12 07:51:49 PM

untaken_name: So...I guess we're gonna see 8-episode "seasons" of popular shows more often now. They're not mistaken. They're trying to set a precedent.


I think cable channels are doing this more and more.

ABC Family, for example, has two-three seasons of eachc of their shows. The"summer finales" are going to be coming up soon. My guess is that over the course of the year, their shows still get the 20-24 episodes we are generally used to.
 
2013-08-12 07:54:23 PM
Is this the thread where Apple gets blamed for doing the exact same thing as their competitors?
 
2013-08-12 07:55:36 PM
Pay?  snerk guffaw giggle snort
 
2013-08-12 08:00:46 PM
Some things are worth paying for.  Breaking Bad is one of those things.
 
2013-08-12 08:06:46 PM
Dick move. I blame Battlestar Galactica and the writers strike for this half season bullshiat.
 
2013-08-12 08:08:00 PM

untaken_name: So...I guess we're gonna see 8-episode "seasons" of popular shows more often now. They're not mistaken. They're trying to set a precedent.


This. And since TV seasons normally coincide with the length of a season, that means we're going to get six seasons per year now: Winter, Wing, Spring, Summer, Autumn, Wintumn.

Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-08-12 08:09:09 PM
And before that, he was all uppity with his friends about how he cut the cord and didn't have some huge cable bill.
 
2013-08-12 08:09:50 PM

MrEricSir: Is this the thread where Apple gets blamed for doing the exact same thing as their competitors?


Maybe.  It could also be the thread where Apple gets blamed for the actions of one of its content providers.
 
2013-08-12 08:12:40 PM

untaken_name: So...I guess we're gonna see 8-episode "seasons" of popular shows more often now. They're not mistaken. They're trying to set a precedent.


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The precedent has been set for a while now.
 
2013-08-12 08:13:15 PM
AMC is the one that split the season, not Apple. The first half of the season is up on Netflix now, so it is very much separate from the half season that is currently airing. Doctor Who also did the same thing with their split seasons as well. As someone up thread mentioned, they basically charge you $3 per episode for HD with a small discount for the season pass, so it's not like they paid for 20 episodes.
 
2013-08-12 08:15:35 PM
There's been about a year between when the last episode aired and the most recent -- calling it one season in two parts or two seasons is semantics .
 
2013-08-12 08:27:10 PM

bingo the psych-o: untaken_name: So...I guess we're gonna see 8-episode "seasons" of popular shows more often now. They're not mistaken. They're trying to set a precedent.

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The precedent has been set for a while now.


Came here to post the BSG season "2.5" thing myself.
 
2013-08-12 08:27:35 PM
This has been old news ever since I bought MLP season 3 last year.
 
2013-08-12 08:32:42 PM

MrEricSir: Is this the thread where Apple gets blamed for doing the exact same thing as their competitors?


Unpossible! Remember, Apple is different because they're innovative.
 
2013-08-12 08:33:12 PM

untaken_name: So...I guess we're gonna see 8-episode "seasons" of popular shows more often now. They're not mistaken. They're trying to set a precedent.


Good. The Brits do it this way, and it makes for better tv. Producers don't have to pad out 8 episodes worth of ideas to get to a 23-episode season, and shorter seasons means you can get a bigger variety of series on the air every year (meaning a better chance to find something good). I've been waiting for that broadcast model to catch on in the US for years, and it might finally be happening. The big networks will resist it for a while, but if AMC, FX, and the others can get acclaimed for 8-12 episode seasons of great quality tv, maybe the big boys will eventually fall in line.
 
2013-08-12 08:35:28 PM
The only people who truly consider this to be one season are Sony, and that's because they'd have to give people raises if it were treated as two.  And, as has been mentioned, they probably should have seen this coming, considering that Seasons 2-4 were all $30/each while Season 5 was only $22.
 
2013-08-12 08:44:03 PM

Uzzah: untaken_name: So...I guess we're gonna see 8-episode "seasons" of popular shows more often now. They're not mistaken. They're trying to set a precedent.

Good. The Brits do it this way, and it makes for better tv. Producers don't have to pad out 8 episodes worth of ideas to get to a 23-episode season, and shorter seasons means you can get a bigger variety of series on the air every year (meaning a better chance to find something good). I've been waiting for that broadcast model to catch on in the US for years, and it might finally be happening. The big networks will resist it for a while, but if AMC, FX, and the others can get acclaimed for 8-12 episode seasons of great quality tv, maybe the big boys will eventually fall in line.


I doubt that's going to become standard.  The only reason Breaking Bad is doing it is because Gilligan wanted to wrap it up in one season but AMC wanted two years.  So they did 16 episodes and split them in two.  There are a few networks experimenting in short-form television (Sundance and IFC notably), but for the most part, 13 episodes is as few as any ad-supported network is going to want to go.  And I'm actually okay with that.  The British model can be good at times, but I don't mind having more episodes.  It's not like shows can't put up good runs.  The US version of The Office had more great episodes than the entire UK run.  I guess I'm just willing to take the bad with the good.
 
2013-08-12 08:53:58 PM
I'm not sure why some shows have only a few episodes, I think its because when it was signed on as a show it wasn't picked up for a full season. For example I am waiting for Southland to come out, all seasons cost the same money - but season 1 had 7 episodes, season 2 6 episodes, 3 and 4 were 10 episodes.
 
2013-08-12 09:02:54 PM
I've got the weirdest boner right now.....
 
2013-08-12 09:06:19 PM
I'm just here to say fark Apple and fark iTunes.

/that is all
 
2013-08-12 09:17:27 PM
Why not just get a cablecard and record it? I've had mine put to use so many times (TV shows, premium channel movies) that it more than paid for itself and monthly DVR subscriptions with shiatty harddrive space.
 
2013-08-12 09:21:06 PM
People still pay to download new movies and new TV shows from the interwebs?

Huh?  How about that?
 
2013-08-12 09:22:56 PM
After all of the commercials I had to watch over the years, I figure the box owes me... I watch my BB pirated.

/I'm dying
//will never see the inside of a prison cell
 
2013-08-12 09:23:20 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned how stupid it is to buy seasons of TV shows on iTunes in the first place when there are perfectly acceptable ways to watch these shows through other means.

(Personally, I don't think shows that are broadcast or on basic cable and ad-supported should cost more than 99 cents an episode anyhow; it's just greedy to charge 2.99-3.99 for an episode of a show that's already paid for by advertisers before it airs.)

But hey, if you're GOING to pay for a show, Breaking Bad is one of the few that's worth whatever you have to pay.
 
2013-08-12 09:28:48 PM
Does it cost the same amount per episode? If so, who cares.

Does it cost the same amount per season regardless of the episodes? If so, that's ridiculous.
 
2013-08-12 09:32:13 PM

secularsage: ... it's just greedy to charge 2.99-3.99 for an episode of a show that's already paid for by advertisers before it airs.


Yeah... no. Most prime time TV shows would lose money if they had to be paid for based on ad sales of the first showing of each episode.
 
2013-08-12 09:36:08 PM

secularsage: I'm surprised no one has mentioned how stupid it is to buy seasons of TV shows on iTunes in the first place when there are perfectly acceptable ways to watch these shows through other means.

(Personally, I don't think shows that are broadcast or on basic cable and ad-supported should cost more than 99 cents an episode anyhow; it's just greedy to charge 2.99-3.99 for an episode of a show that's already paid for by advertisers before it airs.)

But hey, if you're GOING to pay for a show, Breaking Bad is one of the few that's worth whatever you have to pay.


Eh, you're paying to watch it without commercials and to KEEP IT.  The Breaking Bad FIfth Season Blu-Ray retails for $65 and hits $30 on sale, but you can download it for $24 for iTunes.  Seems to be a good deal to me.
 
2013-08-12 09:36:30 PM
If I remember correctly, there were already ads for the season five dvds during last night's episode, implying either easy access to the rest of the season or another 5.5 dvd set later.
 
2013-08-12 09:40:00 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Pretty sure Apple isn't the one who decides how to package and sell them.


Apple doesn't package and market the products they sell? Really?
This is exactly why Apple will never see another thin dime from me.
 
2013-08-12 09:46:50 PM

untaken_name: So...I guess we're gonna see 8-episode "seasons" of popular shows more often now. They're not mistaken. They're trying to set a precedent.


They one-upped HBO cutting seasons from 12 to 10 episodes.  They did it with "Girls" and they did it with this season of "True Blood." Not sure if they are doing it with other shows. The "True Blood" one really bugs me... it feels like it just started and it ends next week.
 
2013-08-12 09:49:55 PM

dstrick44: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Pretty sure Apple isn't the one who decides how to package and sell them.

Apple doesn't package and market the products they sell? Really?


Really.  The content producers do that.
 
2013-08-12 09:51:38 PM

DenisBergkamp: Figures they and others will try to cash in on the split season, why waste an opportunity to gouge the consumer?


Vince Gilligan said last night that legally and contractually the network considers it to all be one season (ie, the cast and crew are getting paid and residuals as if it were just one season).
 
2013-08-12 09:56:55 PM

untaken_name: So...I guess we're gonna see 8-episode "seasons" of popular shows more often now. They're not mistaken. They're trying to set a precedent.


Heh.  You must not watch much UK-originated TV; Sherlock has been running three-episode seasons, and seasons of four or five aren't uncommon over there.

/still a bit pissed about only getting 8 episodes of Top Gear this summer.
 
2013-08-12 10:06:19 PM
The last 8 episodes is considered season 6. If there's an upside to this new trend, it's that stories will become tighter and less meandering.

The Venture Bros did the same thing. This after "Season 4" was split into two 8-episode halves split by a year.
 
2013-08-12 10:07:39 PM

Mad_Radhu: AMC is the one that split the season, not Apple. The first half of the season is up on Netflix now, so it is very much separate from the half season that is currently airing. Doctor Who also did the same thing with their split seasons as well. As someone up thread mentioned, they basically charge you $3 per episode for HD with a small discount for the season pass, so it's not like they paid for 20 episodes.


They never split the season. It's PR bullshiat.

They lost the negotiations with Mad Men so to save money they cut Walking Dead's season 2 budget in half and reduced the episode order for Breaking Bad seasons 5 and 6 to eight episodes each.

After the shiatstorm they received when people heard about what happened to TWD, they called season 6 of BB part two of season 5.

I think in the Breaking Bad thing with Hardwick, Gillian refers to this season as "season 5 part two as the lawyers call it' or something to that effect.
 
2013-08-12 10:09:26 PM
"OMG! Apple ripped me off again! I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you!"
 
2013-08-12 10:13:14 PM

Kaybeck: Mad_Radhu: AMC is the one that split the season, not Apple. The first half of the season is up on Netflix now, so it is very much separate from the half season that is currently airing. Doctor Who also did the same thing with their split seasons as well. As someone up thread mentioned, they basically charge you $3 per episode for HD with a small discount for the season pass, so it's not like they paid for 20 episodes.

They never split the season. It's PR bullshiat.

They lost the negotiations with Mad Men so to save money they cut Walking Dead's season 2 budget in half and reduced the episode order for Breaking Bad seasons 5 and 6 to eight episodes each.

After the shiatstorm they received when people heard about what happened to TWD, they called season 6 of BB part two of season 5.

I think in the Breaking Bad thing with Hardwick, Gillian refers to this season as "season 5 part two as the lawyers call it' or something to that effect.


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2013-08-12 10:19:51 PM
tenpounds trolls entertainment threads now, too?

What an age we live in...
 
2013-08-12 10:30:02 PM
Jeebus, I just paid Amazon for the next eight episodes that were not included with last year's episodes. This isn't anything unique to Apple.
 
2013-08-12 10:34:36 PM
If you buy current TV on the internet does it end up costing more than cable? At $23 for 8 shows it seems like it might.
 
2013-08-12 10:44:36 PM
Hey, this is probably a good place to ask this question. When you purchase a season on Amazon VOD, do you pay for the season up front, or are you charged weekly? (Does that make sense?)
 
2013-08-12 10:47:18 PM
I haven't started watching this show yet... It's in my Netflix queue. Once the show's over entirely, I'll wait a while and then start watching it.

/Currently on Season 9 of X Files and the tail end of every 1970s SNL episode.
//I am still giving Under The Dome a chance, too.
 
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