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(C|Net)   Truck driver uses GPS jammer to successfully prevent his boss from tracking his whereabouts. Finds out that FCC can still track him   (news.cnet.com) divider line 156
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2013-08-12 10:05:01 AM
Jam trifecta in play!!!
 
2013-08-12 10:05:19 AM
There subby a word.
 
2013-08-12 10:05:44 AM
His what, subtard?
 
2013-08-12 10:05:56 AM
He succesfulled the whole thing?
 
2013-08-12 10:06:14 AM
wife?  boss?  pimp?  what's the missing word?
 
2013-08-12 10:06:46 AM
Oh god. He's managed to piss ofF the FAA and the FCC?

Their methods are unspeakable.

i.cdn.turner.com

/fignuts!
 
2013-08-12 10:06:49 AM
We don't know whether successfully his tracking.
 
2013-08-12 10:07:26 AM
The FCC won't let him be, or let him be he
 
2013-08-12 10:08:08 AM
Prevent his what from tracking him?

Employer?

Parole officer?

Mother?

Mysterious past?
 
2013-08-12 10:09:47 AM
31 thousands? There's bankers that get hit with less than that for fraud. Might as well send him to jail, there's no way he's going to be able to pay this - especially since he's now unemployed.
 
2013-08-12 10:10:20 AM

hardinparamedic: Oh god. He's managed to piss ofF the FAA and the FCC?

Their methods are unspeakable.

[i.cdn.turner.com image 400x300]

/fignuts!


HEY!  Don't talk about your mother that way!
 
2013-08-12 10:10:24 AM
Subby accidentally the headline.
 
2013-08-12 10:10:46 AM
So Bojczak was fined $31,875 on Friday. And, yes, he was also fired for his misdirection.

Putting a GPS jammer in a company vehicle? Yeah, that sounds like grounds for automatic firing. If you don't want your employer to track you, drive your own truck.

On the other hand, an airport charged with landing airplanes worth hundreds of millions of dollars would seem to warrant having a system that can't be blocked with a $100 jammer.
 
2013-08-12 10:10:49 AM
My from knows where I am.

Always.
 
2013-08-12 10:11:28 AM
Insta-green for maximum humiliation of Subby for his headline fail?
 
2013-08-12 10:11:48 AM

I love these games!



His penis?
His cat?
His Obamacare card?
His Own Personal Jesus?
 
2013-08-12 10:12:42 AM
What disturbs me most is that an airport utilizing this new Smartpath system can be easily jammed by a sub-100 dollar GPS jammer. What kind of havoc can that cause at any Smartpath airport if it was used specifically for jamming those signals?
 
2013-08-12 10:12:55 AM

Eps05: 31 thousands? There's bankers that get hit with less than that for fraud. Might as well send him to jail, there's no way he's going to be able to pay this - especially since he's now unemployed.


[citation needed]
 
2013-08-12 10:12:56 AM
The whole thing?
 
2013-08-12 10:14:03 AM
What the fark point was he trying to prove by jamming his employers GPS?
 
2013-08-12 10:15:30 AM

Snarfangel: So Bojczak was fined $31,875 on Friday. And, yes, he was also fired for his misdirection.

Putting a GPS jammer in a company vehicle? Yeah, that sounds like grounds for automatic firing. If you don't want your employer to track you, drive your own truck.

On the other hand, an airport charged with landing airplanes worth hundreds of millions of dollars would seem to warrant having a system that can't be blocked with a $100 jammer.


The Chinese jammers I've encountered spew about a watt of noise at and significantly above and below L1 and L2 GPS frequencies. This will totally obliterate the milliwatt signal being received by any GPS receiver.
 
2013-08-12 10:16:30 AM

Snarfangel: On the other hand, an airport charged with landing airplanes worth hundreds of millions of dollars would seem to warrant having a system that can't be blocked with a $100 jammer.


You are aware of how GPS works and how weak the signals actually are? There is a reason that we have laws restricting broadcasting.
 
2013-08-12 10:16:39 AM
The admins can rewrite the headline if they notice it
 
2013-08-12 10:16:43 AM

PunkTiger: What disturbs me most is that an airport utilizing this new Smartpath system can be easily jammed by a sub-100 dollar GPS jammer. What kind of havoc can that cause at any Smartpath airport if it was used specifically for jamming those signals?


It's simple physics.  You put out a radio signal that overwhelms the weak satellite signals, it's going to effect everyone in the area that's using a GPS.

The better solution, if you don't want to be tracked all the time, is to cover the GPS antenna with something metal, like aluminum foil or a wire mesh.  That will block the signal at your receiver without farking it up for everyone else.
 
2013-08-12 10:17:56 AM
Go home, subby, you are drunk.
 
2013-08-12 10:17:58 AM

Lt_Ryan: Snarfangel: On the other hand, an airport charged with landing airplanes worth hundreds of millions of dollars would seem to warrant having a system that can't be blocked with a $100 jammer.

You are aware of how GPS works and how weak the signals actually are? There is a reason that we have laws restricting broadcasting.


Not to mention this isn't something that, had it failed, would result in planes falling out of the sky or something.
 
2013-08-12 10:17:59 AM
I'll take this opportunity to remind the cell phone jammers out there that your cheap jammers from China or India will often interfere with a broad swath of other radio frequencies, including GPS.

Have fun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies#United_States_Carr ie r_Frequency_Use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System#Satellite_fre qu encies
 
2013-08-12 10:19:09 AM

RottNDude: Snarfangel: So Bojczak was fined $31,875 on Friday. And, yes, he was also fired for his misdirection.

Putting a GPS jammer in a company vehicle? Yeah, that sounds like grounds for automatic firing. If you don't want your employer to track you, drive your own truck.

On the other hand, an airport charged with landing airplanes worth hundreds of millions of dollars would seem to warrant having a system that can't be blocked with a $100 jammer.

The Chinese jammers I've encountered spew about a watt of noise at and significantly above and below L1 and L2 GPS frequencies. This will totally obliterate the milliwatt signal being received by any GPS receiver.


Slap one on a weather balloon, and you've got a way to keep any drones in the general area from knowing precisely where there are.
 
2013-08-12 10:19:11 AM
 
2013-08-12 10:19:11 AM
Surprised he wasn't visited by Homeland Security

and / or

Hey boss. Where's my paycheck?
I dunno. Someone must have a paycheck jammer installed.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-08-12 10:19:24 AM
www.stripersonline.com

I hope they make an example of this azzhole.
 
2013-08-12 10:19:39 AM

Snarfangel: So Bojczak was fined $31,875 on Friday. And, yes, he was also fired for his misdirection.

Putting a GPS jammer in a company vehicle? Yeah, that sounds like grounds for automatic firing. If you don't want your employer to track you, drive your own truck.

On the other hand, an airport charged with landing airplanes worth hundreds of millions of dollars would seem to warrant having a system that can't be blocked with a $100 jammer.


That should be the real story here, and I wish they went more in depth on how much trouble it actually caused them. Were people at risk? Could you plant a few of those around the airport and get planes to run into each other? Seems insane how much we pay for airport security just to be able to shut the whole thing down for under $100
 
2013-08-12 10:19:45 AM
You mean, Die Hard II could actually happen?
 
2013-08-12 10:20:03 AM

karmaceutical: What the fark point was he trying to prove by jamming his employers GPS?


Maybe his boss was a member of the Tea Party and he wanted to show his lack of intelligence to impress him/her.
 
2013-08-12 10:20:16 AM

Snarfangel: On the other hand, an airport charged with landing airplanes worth hundreds of millions of dollars would seem to warrant having a system that can't be blocked with a $100 jammer.


PunkTiger: What disturbs me most is that an airport utilizing this new Smartpath system can be easily jammed by a sub-100 dollar GPS jammer. What kind of havoc can that cause at any Smartpath airport if it was used specifically for jamming those signals?


At the end of the day, a radio signal is just a radio signal. If you're trying to use a particular band for something, there's not much you can do if someone comes along and pumps out a ton of noise in the same band. The best you can really do is keep potential sources of noise physically away from the area, but since it's a whole airport....

Kinda like how the sweetest laptop or electronic doodad money can buy won't hold up well to being bashed with a big-ass rock.
 
2013-08-12 10:22:43 AM

PandaPorn: karmaceutical: What the fark point was he trying to prove by jamming his employers GPS?

Maybe his boss was a member of the Tea Party and he wanted to show his lack of intelligence to impress him/her.


I hope you stretched before doing that much over reaching into derp.
 
2013-08-12 10:22:47 AM

HAMMERTOE: You mean, Die Hard II could actually happen?


Yes, absolutely. But instead of planes crashing, the planes would be mildly inconvenienced.
 
2013-08-12 10:22:51 AM
And I don't see how this yokel would think this would work for long, the systems I dealt with at a cell carrier (big red logo, rhymes with horizon) had an option for the tracking software to poll the transcievers every so often, and if one didn't connect for a certain length of time, it would notify the appropriate customer. Also had geofencing, upper limits on speed, et cetera. Of course this was back in the mid to late 2000s, don't know what parameters they've got now.
 
2013-08-12 10:23:32 AM

karmaceutical: What the fark point was he trying to prove by jamming his employers GPS?


That "the man" couldn't keep him down or some such shiat, I'm sure....

We have people biatch about the locators we have on all our vehicles here at work...

Employee: "You're just tracking me  to see if I'm doing something wrong!"

My response:  "And?"
 
2013-08-12 10:24:13 AM

karmaceutical: What the fark point was he trying to prove by jamming his employers GPS?


A) That he could
B) He was most likely doing shiat his employers didn't want him to do on company time. If you're supposed to be at a specific address for 8 hours a day, but the GPS is showing you spending those 8 hours running errands around town, you're gonna get your ass fired.

He should be fired anyway. Make it a little harder to pay back that $32K fine.
 
2013-08-12 10:25:07 AM
I would think the way to go would be with a faraday cage.
 
2013-08-12 10:26:09 AM

Snarfangel: So Bojczak was fined $31,875 on Friday. And, yes, he was also fired for his misdirection.

Putting a GPS jammer in a company vehicle? Yeah, that sounds like grounds for automatic firing. If you don't want your employer to track you, drive your own truck.



Well, even then, you still have to be accountable for your wherabouts.  If for no other reason that you will presumably be charging by the mile for the usage of your vehicle.
Still, this seems like an excessive fine.  It's not like this guy did anything intentional to disrupt the airport.

I must say, though...  It's impressive that that jammer has such a range that it extended as far as the control tower.  We're talking hundreds of yards from the TP.  And what I REALLY want to know is, if he was jamming everything, how the hell did they figure out that it was HIM doing it.  He must have been driving at 75mph, and was probably only in the vicinity for a minute or so.

//Lando:  How can they be jaming us if they don't know that...  That we're coming?  Break off the attack!  All craft pull up!!
 
2013-08-12 10:26:35 AM

Towermonkey: And I don't see how this yokel would think this would work for long, the systems I dealt with at a cell carrier (big red logo, rhymes with horizon) had an option for the tracking software to poll the transcievers every so often, and if one didn't connect for a certain length of time, it would notify the appropriate customer. Also had geofencing, upper limits on speed, et cetera. Of course this was back in the mid to late 2000s, don't know what parameters they've got now.


"Honestly, I have no idea why the system didn't work, maybe there is a funky connection somewhere that only jars loose during movement, or maybe only when it's hot".
 
2013-08-12 10:28:20 AM

PunkTiger: What disturbs me most is that an airport utilizing this new Smartpath system can be easily jammed by a sub-100 dollar GPS jammer. What kind of havoc can that cause at any Smartpath airport if it was used specifically for jamming those signals?


The system only works because everyone plays by the rules. A radio signal from a satellite in orbit will spread over a large portion of the earth's surface, and it only has one tiny antenna powered by a solar array. You can't install a 1000-watt broadcasting tower on every GPS satellite, it's not physically possible.

An analogy: the GPS receiver has the job of listening for a what is barely a whisper. The GPS receiver just isn't going to be able to do that unless everyone agrees that they're going to be very, very quiet. A jammer is the equivalent of a guy walking into the quiet room playing an instrument.

Rest assured: the airport has SOME contingency plan in place, just in case the GPS stops working (which they can and do all the time... GPS is weak enough to be drowned out by solar activity, on occasion). But you can be sure that contingency isn't as safe or as comfortable as the GPS solution. Pilots are still trained to do things manually in the event that everything hits the fan, but you couldn't pay me enough money to be on that thing.
 
2013-08-12 10:29:14 AM

Snarfangel: So Bojczak was fined $31,875 on Friday. And, yes, he was also fired for his misdirection.

Putting a GPS jammer in a company vehicle? Yeah, that sounds like grounds for automatic firing. If you don't want your employer to track you, drive your own truck.

On the other hand, an airport charged with landing airplanes worth hundreds of millions of dollars would seem to warrant having a system that can't be blocked with a $100 jammer.


Any system that relies on RF energy for communications can be interfered with.  That includes GPS, cell phones, tv, and so on.  One exception would be microwave ovens.  The guy would have gotten away with it much longer if he had used a jammer that didn't have such a large coverage area.  All he would have needed is a jammer that would cover the truck.  He didn't need one that had a range of a few hundred yards.
 
2013-08-12 10:30:04 AM

dittybopper: The better solution, if you don't want to be tracked all the time, is to cover the GPS antenna with something metal, like aluminum foil or a wire mesh be a trustworthy employee who doesn't spend all day at strip clubs while on the clock.

 
2013-08-12 10:31:24 AM

durbnpoisn: Snarfangel: So Bojczak was fined $31,875 on Friday. And, yes, he was also fired for his misdirection.

Putting a GPS jammer in a company vehicle? Yeah, that sounds like grounds for automatic firing. If you don't want your employer to track you, drive your own truck.


Well, even then, you still have to be accountable for your wherabouts.  If for no other reason that you will presumably be charging by the mile for the usage of your vehicle.
Still, this seems like an excessive fine.  It's not like this guy did anything intentional to disrupt the airport.

I must say, though...  It's impressive that that jammer has such a range that it extended as far as the control tower.  We're talking hundreds of yards from the TP.  And what I REALLY want to know is, if he was jamming everything, how the hell did they figure out that it was HIM doing it.  He must have been driving at 75mph, and was probably only in the vicinity for a minute or so.

//Lando:  How can they be jaming us if they don't know that...  That we're coming?  Break off the attack!  All craft pull up!!


I, too, would like some details about how they actually found him.  I doubt it was a one-time thing, though - I'm sure after the first time or two someone realized, hey, some asshole is pumping out static on the GPS band and it only happens for a few minutes a day so it's likely someone on the move.  Not sure what step 2 would be, though.  Get some guys with directional antennae and follow the signal?

/Radio is not my forte
//Really interested in learning more about it
///Spend too much time on Fark to get anywhere
 
2013-08-12 10:31:55 AM

durbnpoisn: Snarfangel: So Bojczak was fined $31,875 on Friday. And, yes, he was also fired for his misdirection.

Putting a GPS jammer in a company vehicle? Yeah, that sounds like grounds for automatic firing. If you don't want your employer to track you, drive your own truck.


Well, even then, you still have to be accountable for your wherabouts.  If for no other reason that you will presumably be charging by the mile for the usage of your vehicle.
Still, this seems like an excessive fine.  It's not like this guy did anything intentional to disrupt the airport.

I must say, though...  It's impressive that that jammer has such a range that it extended as far as the control tower.  We're talking hundreds of yards from the TP.  And what I REALLY want to know is, if he was jamming everything, how the hell did they figure out that it was HIM doing it.  He must have been driving at 75mph, and was probably only in the vicinity for a minute or so.

//Lando:  How can they be jaming us if they don't know that...  That we're coming?  Break off the attack!  All craft pull up!!


If you radiate, they can find you.  And if you radiate constantly, really all they have to do to figure out who it is that is causing the temporary outages is to put a receiver keyed up to a video camera that records who is going by.  Have it store images from the very peak of the interference.

Then, all you have to do is look for the one vehicle that shows up in most or all of the images.

Either that, or just use basic radio direction finding techniques like those used by military intelligence, the FCC, and ham radio operators.  It's easy enough to do that I had some 8, 9 and 10 year old kids finding a hidden transmitter with a simple hand-held antenna from half a mile away.
 
2013-08-12 10:33:53 AM

PunkTiger: What disturbs me most is that an airport utilizing this new Smartpath system can be easily jammed by a sub-100 dollar GPS jammer. What kind of havoc can that cause at any Smartpath airport if it was used specifically for jamming those signals?




They should ban it. That way no one will do it.

Profit!
 
2013-08-12 10:38:05 AM

The Slush: dittybopper: The better solution, if you don't want to be tracked all the time,

is tocover the GPS antenna with something metal, like aluminum foil or a wire mesh be a trustworthy employee who doesn't spend all day at strip clubs while on the clock.

Even if you are a trustworthy employee who doesn't spend all day at strip clubs while on the clock, you may not really want to be tracked.  Especially if you get dinged for things like going a bit over the speed limit in order to make a scheduled delivery on time, or because you don't want your boss to know you've got an overactive bladder and need to take frequent piss breaks, or because you simply have an aversion to being micromanaged, which is why you became a driver in the first place, so you don't have a boss looking over your shoulder the whole time.
 
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