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(Guardian)   The US is deeply concerned that other countries won't do exactly what they're told, when they're told to do it   (theguardian.com) divider line 57
    More: Followup, United States, Humberto Quintero, drug lords, state crime, drug cartels, DEA  
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2013-08-12 10:01:45 AM  
He uses harsher language than that when Congress won't do what he wants.
 
2013-08-12 10:01:58 AM  
Our relationship with Mexico was greatly diminished after Obama took it upon himself to release guns into their country's drug lord, killing hundreds of Mexican citizens.
 
2013-08-12 10:02:51 AM  
I was promised hope and change.
 
2013-08-12 10:03:04 AM  
Good, you act an ass, bully everyone and then cry when they finally realize that you aren't the all powerful Oz.
 
2013-08-12 10:03:38 AM  
Seriously?

Obama - U got Drones. Why you need diplomacy?
 
2013-08-12 10:03:58 AM  
Thanks, Obama!
 
2013-08-12 10:06:51 AM  
Obama doesn't speak for the U.S. Subby.

Remember when GWB was elected and all the libs said "Not my President"?

Well BHO is your President, so own it.
 
2013-08-12 10:08:05 AM  
You know, this guy was the subject of a huge international manhunt.  And from what I gathered, some folks in Mexico are pretty pissed off about this turn of events as well.

The Mexican attorney general, Jesús Murillo Karam, said that he was "worried" about the court's decision, adding that his office is analysing whether there are any charges pending against Caro Quintero.


Not saying this headline isn't accurate at all (coughsnowdencough), but in this case, um, some outrage is justified.  And probably necessary.
 
2013-08-12 10:09:43 AM  
Is that a drone I hear warming up in the AZ desert?
 
2013-08-12 10:12:06 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I was promised hope and change.


bluenovaman: Good, you act an ass, bully everyone and then cry when they finally realize that you aren't the all powerful Oz.


rubi_con_man: Seriously?

Obama - U got Drones. Why you need diplomacy?


Weatherkiss: Thanks, Obama!


Aristocles: Obama doesn't speak for the U.S. Subby.

Remember when GWB was elected and all the libs said "Not my President"?

Well BHO is your President, so own it.


Jesus f--king CHRIST.

Someone murdered a US government employee, was tried and convicted, and was let go on a technicality.(granted, after serving 28 years).

You guys REALLY want to pull this right now?

Whether you think it's justified or not, or that this is further evidence that Mexico's justice/police system is corrupt or not, one of the functions of the State Department as far as I'm aware is to make sure those who injure/kill American civilians abroad are brought to justice as much as they can flex their muscle to do so in that country's legal system.
 
2013-08-12 10:13:16 AM  

rubi_con_man: Seriously?

Obama - U got Drones. Why you need diplomacy?


This.  If Obama can legally drone strike a  U.S. citizen, why is Quintero not a grease spot in the sand somewhere.
 
2013-08-12 10:13:23 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: AverageAmericanGuy: I was promised hope and change.

bluenovaman: Good, you act an ass, bully everyone and then cry when they finally realize that you aren't the all powerful Oz.

rubi_con_man: Seriously?

Obama - U got Drones. Why you need diplomacy?

Weatherkiss: Thanks, Obama!

Aristocles: Obama doesn't speak for the U.S. Subby.

Remember when GWB was elected and all the libs said "Not my President"?

Well BHO is your President, so own it.

Jesus f--king CHRIST.

Someone murdered a US government employee, was tried and convicted, and was let go on a technicality.(granted, after serving 28 years).

You guys REALLY want to pull this right now?

Whether you think it's justified or not, or that this is further evidence that Mexico's justice/police system is corrupt or not, one of the functions of the State Department as far as I'm aware is to make sure those who injure/kill American civilians abroad are brought to justice as much as they can flex their muscle to do so in that country's legal system.


It's been terribly effective so far!
 
2013-08-12 10:13:46 AM  

Nemo's Brother: Our relationship with Mexico was greatly diminished ...



If you'd be so kind, a citation, please? Thanks.


...after Obama took it upon himself to release guns into their country's drug lord, killing hundreds of Mexican citizens.


I'd heard it was an operation gone wrong on Obama's watch. Now you're telling me that Obama himself was pulling the strings and it was his intent to disburse weapons to crime lords? Do you have a citation for that, as well?
 
2013-08-12 10:16:09 AM  

phaseolus: Nemo's Brother: Our relationship with Mexico was greatly diminished ...


If you'd be so kind, a citation, please? Thanks.


...after Obama took it upon himself to release guns into their country's drug lord, killing hundreds of Mexican citizens.


I'd heard it was an operation gone wrong on Obama's watch. Now you're telling me that Obama himself was pulling the strings and it was his intent to disburse weapons to crime lords? Do you have a citation for that, as well?


Yes, but not by himself. Eric Holder was involved and those two maroons forgot to track the weapons that had been funneled to the murderous Mexican drug cartels.
 
2013-08-12 10:16:25 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: It's been terribly effective so far!


What does that even mean?

We might not like legal systems abroad and the results they deliver.  And as a country, it's in our diplomatic interest to say so, loudly, when it involves the well being of our citizens (or human rights abuses, or whatever).
 
2013-08-12 10:19:52 AM  

Aristocles: Obama doesn't speak for the U.S. Subby.

Remember when GWB was elected and all the libs said "Not my President"?

Well BHO is your President, so own it.


I seem to remember it far more often In the last 6 years, that the 8 before it.  In fact, so does Google.

784,000,000 vs. 147,000,000
 
2013-08-12 10:22:59 AM  
Sounds similar to when WHITE FARKERS with their imposing views on how things should be run by the Middle Easterners or Russians or Europeans or Conservatives... etc. etc. etc.

Sure sounds like a WHITE PERSON problem... being angry when those  'savages' don't do as they are told by big white brother.

(Go ahead white farker admins... pull THIS ONE down too for trolling -or whatever you come up with... truth hurts your white pride too)

/So silence anyone who's not like you.
//White, cynical, but incapable of speaking truth
///Only snide dog whistle language is allowed by white master
 
2013-08-12 10:26:04 AM  

Flab: Aristocles: Obama doesn't speak for the U.S. Subby.

Remember when GWB was elected and all the libs said "Not my President"?

Well BHO is your President, so own it.

I seem to remember it far more often In the last 6 years, that the 8 before it.  In fact, so does Google.

784,000,000 vs. 147,000,000


That's only because there are far more d-bags with blogs now than there were when Bush was first elected. When Bush was elected, I remember seeing "Not my President" on my University professors' office doors, it wasn't an online thing.
 
2013-08-12 10:27:47 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: AverageAmericanGuy: It's been terribly effective so far!

What does that even mean?

We might not like legal systems abroad and the results they deliver.  And as a country, it's in our diplomatic interest to say so, loudly, when it involves the well being of our citizens (or human rights abuses, or whatever).


It means that Obama's foreign policy has done nothing to raise our stature around the world. If anything, our country is more hated and more despised than ever. What we say carries little weight now, and all we can do is lash out with military power, pushing us further into isolation.
 
2013-08-12 10:28:56 AM  
This thread is exceeding my wildest expectations.

I want to personally thank each and every one of you for making my day.

/subby
 
2013-08-12 10:35:57 AM  

Flab: Aristocles: Obama doesn't speak for the U.S. Subby.

Remember when GWB was elected and all the libs said "Not my President"?

Well BHO is your President, so own it.

I seem to remember it far more often In the last 6 years, that the 8 before it.  In fact, so does Google.

784,000,000 vs. 147,000,000


Apologies for pulling a "lest we forget", but Lest We Forget after 9/11 GWB had an overwhelming amount of bipartisan support domestically and international support period.  Even though he was put into office by SCOTUS.

And it was Dubya who said he had a "mandate" / carte blanche in 2004, essentially implying that he didn't need or want to represent those who didn't vote for him.

In any case, as someone who didn't vote for GWB twice and who did vote for Obama twice, I supported a few things Dubya did (few and far between although he seemed to finally get out of f--king Cheney's thumb near the end of things) and I definitely oppose a lot of things Obama has and is doing, and I've been vocal about both.

You know, because the goddamn world isn't black and white.
 
2013-08-12 10:37:30 AM  

NostroZ: Sounds similar to when WHITE FARKERS with their imposing views on how things should be run by the Middle Easterners or Russians or Europeans or Conservatives... etc. etc. etc.

Sure sounds like a WHITE PERSON problem... being angry when those  'savages' don't do as they are told by big white brother.

(Go ahead white farker admins... pull THIS ONE down too for trolling -or whatever you come up with... truth hurts your white pride too)

/So silence anyone who's not like you.
//White, cynical, but incapable of speaking truth
///Only snide dog whistle language is allowed by white master


24.media.tumblr.com

Goddamn it, I know nobody ever RTFA, but FFS, try.
 
2013-08-12 10:41:21 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: NostroZ: Sounds similar to when WHITE FARKERS with their imposing views on how things should be run by the Middle Easterners or Russians or Europeans or Conservatives... etc. etc. etc.

Sure sounds like a WHITE PERSON problem... being angry when those  'savages' don't do as they are told by big white brother.

(Go ahead white farker admins... pull THIS ONE down too for trolling -or whatever you come up with... truth hurts your white pride too)

/So silence anyone who's not like you.
//White, cynical, but incapable of speaking truth
///Only snide dog whistle language is allowed by white master

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x375]

Goddamn it, I know nobody ever RTFA, but FFS, try.


The article is about the WHITE house being 'concerned' over how MEXICO deals with their criminals or drug lords.

Tell me more how this is not WHITE POWER being concerned over how 'those colored' down south run their country.

Is the connection THAT tenuous to you?  Are you white?
 
2013-08-12 10:44:19 AM  
What I found to be the most disturbing part, was that officials in the American government actually think they should be allowed to try him here in the U.S. The crime was committed in Mexico, all of it. How would we feel if the situation were reversed? It's that sort of arrogance, subverting the sovereignty of other nations as if it were our birthright, that makes other countries hate us.
 
2013-08-12 10:45:06 AM  
That's funny. I remember most 'liberals' saying that they were behind the president even if they did not agree with his policies. The "not my president" shiat came after we invaded Iraq and even then it was a political and ideological minority. There was never a drive to undermine the legitimacy of the office like there has been under Obama. Criticism of Bush were based on things he actually did while criticisms of Obama are often(not always) based on fiction.

On the other hand as soon as Obama even hinted at running the right went full retard and today we have tea party folks in elected office who can't help themselves from being overtly racist and obstructionist, even to positions they held in the past, or last week.
 
2013-08-12 10:46:43 AM  

NostroZ: StreetlightInTheGhetto: NostroZ: Sounds similar to when WHITE FARKERS with their imposing views on how things should be run by the Middle Easterners or Russians or Europeans or Conservatives... etc. etc. etc.

Sure sounds like a WHITE PERSON problem... being angry when those  'savages' don't do as they are told by big white brother.

(Go ahead white farker admins... pull THIS ONE down too for trolling -or whatever you come up with... truth hurts your white pride too)

/So silence anyone who's not like you.
//White, cynical, but incapable of speaking truth
///Only snide dog whistle language is allowed by white master

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x375]

Goddamn it, I know nobody ever RTFA, but FFS, try.

The article is about the WHITE house being 'concerned' over how MEXICO deals with their criminals or drug lords.

Tell me more how this is not WHITE POWER being concerned over how 'those colored' down south run their country.

Is the connection THAT tenuous to you?  Are you white?


Really not sure if you're trolling or serious, but I think it's more an American Exceptionalism thing than it is a racial thing. America likes to throw its weight around, it's about power and money, but as far as I can tell, it's not about race.
 
2013-08-12 10:50:17 AM  

phaseolus: Nemo's Brother: Our relationship with Mexico was greatly diminished ...


If you'd be so kind, a citation, please? Thanks.


...after Obama took it upon himself to release guns into their country's drug lord, killing hundreds of Mexican citizens.


I'd heard it was an operation gone wrong on Obama's watch. Now you're telling me that Obama himself was pulling the strings and it was his intent to disburse weapons to crime lords? Do you have a citation for that, as well?


Ass, O.P.'s, Sh*t I Made Up This Morning. International Journal of Anal Research Studies. Makingsh*tup University Press, 2013.
 
2013-08-12 10:50:36 AM  

crab66: That's funny. I remember most 'liberals' saying that they were behind the president even if they did not agree with his policies. The "not my president" shiat came after we invaded Iraq and even then it was a political and ideological minority. There was never a drive to undermine the legitimacy of the office like there has been under Obama. Criticism of Bush were based on things he actually did while criticisms of Obama are often(not always) based on fiction.

On the other hand as soon as Obama even hinted at running the right went full retard and today we have tea party folks in elected office who can't help themselves from being overtly racist and obstructionist, even to positions they held in the past, or last week.


Glad you got that off your chest but what the fark does that have to do with Mexico releasing that guy?
 
2013-08-12 10:51:50 AM  

Nemo's Brother: Our relationship with Mexico was greatly diminished after Obama took it upon himself to release guns into their country's drug lord, killing hundreds of Mexican citizens.


Remember, boys and girls:

* Everyone ought to be allowed to buy as many guns as they want, no restrictions, no exceptions, no kidding.
* B. Hussein Osama did something wrong with Fast and Furious.
 
2013-08-12 10:53:46 AM  

LectertheChef: Really not sure if you're trolling or serious, but I think it's more an American Exceptionalism thing than it is a racial thing. America likes to throw its weight around, it's about power and money, but as far as I can tell, it's not about race.


Okay.  Show me a Latino American who 'throws their weight around in politics'.

Or Black.

Or Female.

Or Immigrant American.

Maybe you need to take a closer look at WHAT KIND of AMERICANS 'throw their weight around' in this country.
 
2013-08-12 10:54:37 AM  

LectertheChef: NostroZ: StreetlightInTheGhetto: NostroZ: Sounds similar to when WHITE FARKERS with their imposing views on how things should be run by the Middle Easterners or Russians or Europeans or Conservatives... etc. etc. etc.

Sure sounds like a WHITE PERSON problem... being angry when those  'savages' don't do as they are told by big white brother.

(Go ahead white farker admins... pull THIS ONE down too for trolling -or whatever you come up with... truth hurts your white pride too)

/So silence anyone who's not like you.
//White, cynical, but incapable of speaking truth
///Only snide dog whistle language is allowed by white master

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x375]

Goddamn it, I know nobody ever RTFA, but FFS, try.

The article is about the WHITE house being 'concerned' over how MEXICO deals with their criminals or drug lords.

Tell me more how this is not WHITE POWER being concerned over how 'those colored' down south run their country.

Is the connection THAT tenuous to you?  Are you white?

Really not sure if you're trolling or serious, but I think it's more an American Exceptionalism thing than it is a racial thing. America likes to throw its weight around, it's about power and money, but as far as I can tell, it's not about race.


It's certainly about power and money, but race is often a tool to those ends.

/still not sure what that rant is about in this case, though
 
2013-08-12 11:15:55 AM  

Aristocles: I remember seeing "Not my President" on my University professors' office doors, it wasn't an online thing.


So "all the libs" = "My university professors".

Gotcha.
 
2013-08-12 11:16:43 AM  
So, no different than any other time in American history.
 
2013-08-12 11:18:58 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: AverageAmericanGuy: I was promised hope and change.

bluenovaman: Good, you act an ass, bully everyone and then cry when they finally realize that you aren't the all powerful Oz.

rubi_con_man: Seriously?

Obama - U got Drones. Why you need diplomacy?

Weatherkiss: Thanks, Obama!

Aristocles: Obama doesn't speak for the U.S. Subby.

Remember when GWB was elected and all the libs said "Not my President"?

Well BHO is your President, so own it.

Jesus f--king CHRIST.

Someone murdered a US government employee, was tried and convicted, and was let go on a technicality.(granted, after serving 28 years).

You guys REALLY want to pull this right now?

Whether you think it's justified or not, or that this is further evidence that Mexico's justice/police system is corrupt or not, one of the functions of the State Department as far as I'm aware is to make sure those who injure/kill American civilians abroad are brought to justice as much as they can flex their muscle to do so in that country's legal system.


Eric Holder killed far more many people.
 
2013-08-12 11:22:42 AM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Nemo's Brother: Our relationship with Mexico was greatly diminished after Obama took it upon himself to release guns into their country's drug lord, killing hundreds of Mexican citizens.

Remember, boys and girls:

* Everyone ought to be allowed to buy as many guns as they want, no restrictions, no exceptions, no kidding.
* B. Hussein Osama did something wrong with Fast and Furious.


So you and Obama believe the 2nd Amendment should only apply to foreigners?
 
2013-08-12 11:24:19 AM  

TwoBeersOneCan: It's certainly about power and money, but race is often a tool to those ends.

/still not sure what that rant is about in this case, though


It's about  WHITE MALE PRIVILEGE to tell the 'OTHERS' how to behave... in this case, Mexico.

Let me illustrate my point... below is the picture of all 100 members of the US Congress... find me the WOMAN or BLACK who uses their privilage to tell others how to behave similarly to a white congressman... like lets say Lindsay Graham, or Harry Reid, or Mitch McConnell
www.newyoungworld.com

It seems that the WHITE MEN are the one's who tell everyone what to do... the MINORITY of Women / Blacks in our MOST POWERFUL government institution follows... not leads with 'throwing their weight around' and telling other SOVEREIGN countries how to behave.

(Notice only white men went to Egypt to wag their finger at their government & people... terrible diplomacy)
 
2013-08-12 11:26:52 AM  

Flab: Aristocles: I remember seeing "Not my President" on my University professors' office doors, it wasn't an online thing.

So "all the libs" = "My university professors".

Gotcha.


No, some of my profs = some of the libs. Because, at the time, there wasn't such surplusage of libblogs, my recollection of the "Not my President" declarations was irl.
 
2013-08-12 11:43:46 AM  

Nemo's Brother: StreetlightInTheGhetto: AverageAmericanGuy: I was promised hope and change.

bluenovaman: Good, you act an ass, bully everyone and then cry when they finally realize that you aren't the all powerful Oz.

rubi_con_man: Seriously?

Obama - U got Drones. Why you need diplomacy?

Weatherkiss: Thanks, Obama!

Aristocles: Obama doesn't speak for the U.S. Subby.

Remember when GWB was elected and all the libs said "Not my President"?

Well BHO is your President, so own it.

Jesus f--king CHRIST.

Someone murdered a US government employee, was tried and convicted, and was let go on a technicality.(granted, after serving 28 years).

You guys REALLY want to pull this right now?

Whether you think it's justified or not, or that this is further evidence that Mexico's justice/police system is corrupt or not, one of the functions of the State Department as far as I'm aware is to make sure those who injure/kill American civilians abroad are brought to justice as much as they can flex their muscle to do so in that country's legal system.

Eric Holder killed far more many people.


But they were brown, and thus only worth a couple hundred bucks according the the HSBC settlement
 
2013-08-12 11:44:15 AM  

Nemo's Brother: Eric Holder killed far more many people.



Oh, you're back.

Now, about those citations I was wondering about ...
 
2013-08-12 12:26:07 PM  
Wow, this thread headed off to Loonieland in a quick and amusing fashion.
 
2013-08-12 12:52:56 PM  

El_Swino: Wow, this thread headed off to Loonieland in a quick and amusing fashion.


I just figured the white farkers who normally throw their weight around with opinions that are as important as the preference between Pepsi and Coke have finally found something better to talk about.

Possibly realized that letting people do things in their own country is how FREEDOM and LIBERTY is supposed to work (vs. the lip service we get).
 
2013-08-12 12:56:52 PM  
shiat, even Canada is going to allow 'Murican police officers to patrol Canada and shoot them dirty ice backs for daring to state that U.S. police have no power over them.

/Paid for by the Stephen Harper republican party.
//Do as the sweatervest says or be deported to 'Murica to face charges for beating up a U.S. cop in Canada.
 
2013-08-12 01:04:29 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Lee Jackson Beauregard: Nemo's Brother: Our relationship with Mexico was greatly diminished after Obama took it upon himself to release guns into their country's drug lord, killing hundreds of Mexican citizens.

Remember, boys and girls:

* Everyone ought to be allowed to buy as many guns as they want, no restrictions, no exceptions, no kidding.
* B. Hussein Osama did something wrong with Fast and Furious.

So you and Obama believe the 2nd Amendment should only apply to foreigners?


i35.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-12 01:25:00 PM  

NostroZ: Sounds similar to when WHITE FARKERS with their imposing views on how things should be run by the Middle Easterners or Russians or Europeans or Conservatives... etc. etc. etc.

Sure sounds like a WHITE PERSON problem... being angry when those  'savages' don't do as they are told by big white brother.

(Go ahead white farker admins... pull THIS ONE down too for trolling -or whatever you come up with... truth hurts your white pride too)

/So silence anyone who's not like you.
//White, cynical, but incapable of speaking truth
///Only snide dog whistle language is allowed by white master


Much as I utterly hate the US 'morality police' mentality, I'm pretty sure most people want the ME to stop with human rights abuses. Yes, other people are entirely allowed to criticize nations for that.
 
2013-08-12 01:35:41 PM  

PsiChick: ///Only snide dog whistle language is allowed by white master

Much as I utterly hate the US 'morality police' mentality, I'm pretty sure most people want the ME to stop with human rights abuses. Yes, other people are entirely allowed to criticize nations for that.


You are confusing your American right to a freedom of speech with the diplomatically ridiculous idea of winger-wagging at people of other cultures for 'oppressing their minorities', not acting as we see fair, or doing things that do not benefit American (& western European) economic interests.

Morality police is a very flimsy term for a country that tortures prisoners, spies on everyone, and starts a 'pre-emptive' war with a country that acted with ZERO hostility to it (Iraq).


Tell me more about America's position as a MORAL Police please... here's a picture to remind you:
kladd.nu
 
2013-08-12 01:50:18 PM  

NostroZ: PsiChick: ///Only snide dog whistle language is allowed by white master

Much as I utterly hate the US 'morality police' mentality, I'm pretty sure most people want the ME to stop with human rights abuses. Yes, other people are entirely allowed to criticize nations for that.

You are confusing your American right to a freedom of speech with the diplomatically ridiculous idea of winger-wagging at people of other cultures for 'oppressing their minorities', not acting as we see fair, or doing things that do not benefit American (& western European) economic interests.

Morality police is a very flimsy term for a country that tortures prisoners, spies on everyone, and starts a 'pre-emptive' war with a country that acted with ZERO hostility to it (Iraq).


Tell me more about America's position as a MORAL Police please... here's a picture to remind you:
[kladd.nu image 300x300]


I JUST FARKING SAID I DO NOT THINK AMERICA SHOULD BE A MORAL POLICE, NOR SHOULD ANY NATION, YOU DOLT! I'm saying that other nations, ANY other nations, have EVERY right to say things like 'publicly whipping rape victims is wrong'. Godfarkingdamn, could you  read my posts before replying?
 
2013-08-12 01:59:37 PM  

PsiChick: I JUST FARKING SAID I DO NOT THINK AMERICA SHOULD BE A MORAL POLICE, NOR SHOULD ANY NATION, YOU DOLT! I'm saying that other nations, ANY other nations, have EVERY right to say things like 'publicly whipping rape victims is wrong'. Godfarkingdamn, could you  read my posts before replying?


My bad if I misread your ambiguous statement: "Yes, other people are entirely allowed to criticize nations for that"

Because I heard it as... America can criticize whoever it wants and do whatever it wants as long as we have a 'coalition' of 'willing' other 'nations'.

A coalition of the willing, if you would have... to cover our unilateral decisions.
 
2013-08-12 02:18:12 PM  

NostroZ: Sounds similar to when WHITE FARKERS with their imposing views on how things should be run by the Middle Easterners or Russians or Europeans or Conservatives... etc. etc. etc.

Sure sounds like a WHITE PERSON problem... being angry when those  'savages' don't do as they are told by big white brother.

(Go ahead white farker admins... pull THIS ONE down too for trolling -or whatever you come up with... truth hurts your white pride too)

/So silence anyone who's not like you.
//White, cynical, but incapable of speaking truth
///Only snide dog whistle language is allowed by white master


God, I know, right? farking white people! This white DISEASE seems to spread to our elected officials too! Whatever color they may be!
 
2013-08-12 02:22:26 PM  

NostroZ: El_Swino: Wow, this thread headed off to Loonieland in a quick and amusing fashion.

I just figured the white farkers who normally throw their weight around with opinions that are as important as the preference between Pepsi and Coke have finally found something better to talk about.

Possibly realized that letting people do things in their own country is how FREEDOM and LIBERTY is supposed to work (vs. the lip service we get).


Shine on, you crazy diamond.
 
2013-08-12 03:14:59 PM  

NostroZ: PsiChick: I JUST FARKING SAID I DO NOT THINK AMERICA SHOULD BE A MORAL POLICE, NOR SHOULD ANY NATION, YOU DOLT! I'm saying that other nations, ANY other nations, have EVERY right to say things like 'publicly whipping rape victims is wrong'. Godfarkingdamn, could you  read my posts before replying?

My bad if I misread your ambiguous statement: "Yes, other people are entirely allowed to criticize nations for that"

Because I heard it as... America can criticize whoever it wants and do whatever it wants as long as we have a 'coalition' of 'willing' other 'nations'.

A coalition of the willing, if you would have... to cover our unilateral decisions.


Walk me through your logic. Exactly how did you misread 'that', which under the rules of proper grammar was referring to human rights abuses, into 'America can do whatever it wants as long as we get other people to agree'? Please, explain. Your concepts of grammar may well be mind-boggling.
 
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