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(CBS Chicago)   City of Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night   (chicago.cbslocal.com ) divider line
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2013-08-12 12:02:04 AM  
However, although the Safe Passage routes have been mapped out for parents and students; the police officers, and Safe Passage workers, and volunteers who will man those routes won't be staffing them until school begins on Aug. 26.

More people to kill!
 
2013-08-12 12:04:39 AM  
I like Chicago's new slogan: Not as much of a shiathole as Detroit
 
2013-08-12 02:34:15 AM  
There is just nothing good about this. Any of it.
 
2013-08-12 02:36:23 AM  
Hmm. . .I wonder if the gang bangers got a hold of this "Safe Passage" map and used it as a quick way to find targets to rob.
 
2013-08-12 02:37:12 AM  
If they only had a Community Organizer!
 
2013-08-12 02:40:16 AM  

Betep: If they only had a Community Organizer!


Nah, they just need strict gun control. And maybe somebody could bribe the local politicians to get the gangs to stop killing everybody...
 
2013-08-12 02:43:18 AM  

Piizzadude: There is just nothing good about this. Any of it.


FTHL :

Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

I'd say it not happening during school hours is good.
 
2013-08-12 02:43:34 AM  

Vitamin Pb: Betep: If they only had a Community Organizer!

Nah, they just need strict gun control. And maybe somebody could bribe the local politicians to get the gangs to stop killing everybody...


And drug laws
and muslim control
and gubment to give us  jerbs
and less gun control
and

You know what? Just anarchy. Lets go there. Let mother nature take its course. The strong survive.
 
2013-08-12 02:44:42 AM  

TomD9938: Piizzadude: There is just nothing good about this. Any of it.

FTHL :

Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

I'd say it not happening during school hours is good.


minor victory in a world of shiat.
 
2013-08-12 02:46:14 AM  
How's that half-hearted gun control working for ya?

Just curious, what sort of drugs are funding the gangs these days? It is stuff we'd be willing to talk about legalizing? Is it possible to undercut the funding for gangs? I mean, other than shipping more jobs overseas.
 
2013-08-12 02:49:22 AM  
Good thing school's out on Saturday nights.
 
2013-08-12 02:51:55 AM  
49 elementary school closings in one year... I don't keep up with Chicago but did they declare bankruptcy too or what?
 
2013-08-12 02:53:44 AM  
How would they go about reclaiming land overrun by organized crime or gangs anyways? What forces could they use? Just police?
 
2013-08-12 02:56:54 AM  
Make it night school only.  Negro kids are harder to hit in the dark.
 
2013-08-12 02:58:31 AM  

Piizzadude: TomD9938: Piizzadude: There is just nothing good about this. Any of it.

FTHL :

Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

I'd say it not happening during school hours is good.

minor victory in a world of shiat.



si0.twimg.com

"Life's a shiat sandwich without the bread."
 
2013-08-12 03:00:10 AM  
Oh, it's a safe passage, all right: For bullets.
 
2013-08-12 03:04:16 AM  
Safe passage routes?They do the same thing in Canada, in areas with high levels of elk on elk crime. www.focusonmexico.com
 
2013-08-12 03:04:55 AM  

Pichu0102: How would they go about reclaiming land overrun by organized crime or gangs anyways? What forces could they use? Just police?


Currently they are knocking down all abandoned properties near the school "Safe passages" and it's actually working. Crime on blocks drops once abandon buildings are removed.
 
2013-08-12 03:09:16 AM  
If you need a thing like this safe passage map, you have already lost your city; and to a greater extent the children who would have inherited it are now just killing each other.  Sad.
 
2013-08-12 03:10:19 AM  
Where the link to Rahm Emanuel talking about how great Rahm Emanuel is doing for Chicago.
 
2013-08-12 03:12:00 AM  

juniperwasting: If you need a thing like this safe passage map, you have already lost your city; and to a greater extent the children who would have inherited it are now just killing each other.  Sad.


You need safe passage? Join a gang kid. - The City of Chicago.
 
2013-08-12 03:12:47 AM  
Come now Chicago, get your shiat together.
 
2013-08-12 03:13:41 AM  

TomD9938: Piizzadude: TomD9938: Piizzadude: There is just nothing good about this. Any of it.

FTHL :

Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

I'd say it not happening during school hours is good.

minor victory in a world of shiat.


[si0.twimg.com image 160x160]

"Life's a shiat sandwich without the bread."


I am starting to think they got the movie worng
 
2013-08-12 03:15:57 AM  

juniperwasting: If you need a thing like this safe passage map, you have already lost your city;


static.comicvine.com

Read this in his voice
 
2013-08-12 03:22:22 AM  

Piizzadude: Vitamin Pb: Betep: If they only had a Community Organizer!

Nah, they just need strict gun control. And maybe somebody could bribe the local politicians to get the gangs to stop killing everybody...

And drug laws
and muslim control
and gubment to give us  jerbs
and less gun control
and

You know what? Just anarchy. Lets go there. Let mother nature take its course. The strong survive.


You forgot "Hope and Change".
Barry O'Bamma is that kinda guy.

Putin has more control in the Russo-Chicago community.
 
2013-08-12 03:36:43 AM  
This article could be repeated every 90 minutes on the Chicago news loop. So what.
 
2013-08-12 03:38:11 AM  
Wow...it's like the Underground Railroad for students.
 
2013-08-12 03:44:22 AM  

TomD9938: Piizzadude: There is just nothing good about this. Any of it.

FTHL :

Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

I'd say it not happening during school hours is good.


Yup, not too many kids going to school on a Sat night during summer break.
 
2013-08-12 03:51:06 AM  
I found the map, in case anybody's interested. (warning: huge pdf)
 
2013-08-12 03:51:31 AM  

ShawnDoc: Yup, not too many kids going to school on a Sat night during summer break.


I think the idea is that if murders are routinely happening on the "safe route" it might not be that safe, even a whole two weeks later when school gets back in session.  It's not like these maps are sending them past "murder club" that's only open 9 pm to 2 am, weekends only.
 
2013-08-12 03:59:32 AM  
What, Subby?

For Chicago, 2 people shot and 1  killed on a Saturday night  is considered "safe passage."
 
xcv
2013-08-12 04:06:00 AM  
World War 2 London organized sending their children to the countryside to keep them safe from air raids.

It's time America considers well funded public boarding schools for its youth. An idyllic countryside setting would be a great equalizer to break the cycle of poverty. All students could be getting the same education from adult role models that are uncommon back on the streets and Americans would see there's more to the world and culture beyond the limited boundaries of gang turf or surburban bubbles. Start with areas that qualify as war-zones like Chicago.
 
2013-08-12 04:14:16 AM  

xcv: World War 2 London organized sending their children to the countryside to keep them safe from air raids.

It's time America considers well funded public boarding schools for its youth. An idyllic countryside setting would be a great equalizer to break the cycle of poverty. All students could be getting the same education from adult role models that are uncommon back on the streets and Americans would see there's more to the world and culture beyond the limited boundaries of gang turf or surburban bubbles. Start with areas that qualify as war-zones like Chicago.


I'm really not sure on how similar it is but years ago for me it was the complete opposite. Our family lived out in the suburbs and our two choices for school were either a French or Catholic high school. If those weren't an option the kids would bus an hour and a half into a crap neighbourhood for public school.

If there were a way to filter out the garbage the kid would be taught I'd stick a kid in a catholic school over a public school at this point.

// not American
 
2013-08-12 04:15:19 AM  

xcv: World War 2 London organized sending their children to the countryside to keep them safe from air raids.

It's time America considers well funded public boarding schools for its youth. An idyllic countryside setting would be a great equalizer to break the cycle of poverty. All students could be getting the same education from adult role models that are uncommon back on the streets and Americans would see there's more to the world and culture beyond the limited boundaries of gang turf or surburban bubbles. Start with areas that qualify as war-zones like Chicago.


But that would screw up the education budgets.  Some schools would spend less since their bus costs would go way down and too many empire builders have their snouts in that trough.
 
2013-08-12 04:15:41 AM  
So we've given up?  It's just "safe passage" maps now?  Is that the best we can do?  Really?  If that's the case Detroit looks like an up and coming community in comparison.  I remember growing up in Chicago in the 80s in a northwest side (Austin and North Ave area) neighborhood and even though it was sketchy at night during the day my brother and I could walk to the Walgreens 2 blocks up with no real problem. I miss the Chicago of old.  Sketchy but not tragic (at least not for me).
 
2013-08-12 04:19:46 AM  

DenisBergkamp: If there were a way to filter out the garbage the kid would be taught I'd stick a kid in a catholic school over a public school at this point.


Find a good Jesuit or Russian Orthodox school and let them know you are happy to have your kids learn about religion in its role in history, law and social issues but you don't want the kids to learn religion.
 
2013-08-12 04:34:56 AM  
Looks like gun control is working just as well there as it is in Mexico.
 
2013-08-12 04:35:59 AM  

Betep: Piizzadude: Vitamin Pb: Betep: If they only had a Community Organizer!

Nah, they just need strict gun control. And maybe somebody could bribe the local politicians to get the gangs to stop killing everybody...

And drug laws
and muslim control
and gubment to give us  jerbs
and less gun control
and

You know what? Just anarchy. Lets go there. Let mother nature take its course. The strong survive.

You forgot "Hope and Change".
Barry O'Bamma is that kinda guy.

Putin has more control in the Russo-Chicago community.


You are in the wrong tab. This isnt the "fark with the black guy" tab
 
2013-08-12 05:02:47 AM  
City of Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

Wait.  They make kids go to school on Saturday Night now?   That's outrageous!
 
2013-08-12 05:22:38 AM  

Feel_the_velvet: City of Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

Wait.  They make kids go to school on Saturday Night now?   That's outrageous!


came here for this. i don't really see the relation.
 
2013-08-12 06:02:38 AM  
When are we going to admit that we lost the south side of Chicago to the thugs and just give up? Condemn all the buildings to force everyone to move everyone out, shut off the city services, and bulldoze everything.

If you are a parent and you are still living in this squalid hell-hole you are officially part of the problem, not part of the solution.
 
2013-08-12 06:30:35 AM  
We do realize the vic is 54.

And while the location of the crime is a coincidence, it looks like just another drug deal or robbery gone bad.
 
2013-08-12 06:35:59 AM  

wildcardjack: How's that half-hearted gun control working for ya?

Just curious, what sort of drugs are funding the gangs these days? It is stuff we'd be willing to talk about legalizing? Is it possible to undercut the funding for gangs? I mean, other than shipping more jobs overseas.


Not sure about undercutting funding, but this is a superb tool for cutting their "resources" in the interim:

thechirurgeonsapprentice.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-12 06:38:21 AM  

Macular Degenerate: When are we going to admit that we lost the south side of Chicago to the thugs and just give up? Condemn all the buildings to force everyone to move everyone out, shut off the city services, and bulldoze everything.

If you are a parent and you are still living in this squalid hell-hole you are officially part of the problem, not part of the solution.


Poverty, failing schools, inadequate career paths in the pipeline from failing schools, and the criminal justice system are responsible for this.

A poor parent, unable to afford relocation to a safer area of Chicago, is not.
 
2013-08-12 06:50:09 AM  

Hawnkee: wildcardjack: How's that half-hearted gun control working for ya?

Just curious, what sort of drugs are funding the gangs these days? It is stuff we'd be willing to talk about legalizing? Is it possible to undercut the funding for gangs? I mean, other than shipping more jobs overseas.

Not sure about undercutting funding, but this is a superb tool for cutting their "resources" in the interim:

[thechirurgeonsapprentice.files.wordpress.com image 576x768]


Is that why Dallas has no crime?

Oh, wait...
 
2013-08-12 06:52:08 AM  

xcv: World War 2 London organized sending their children to the countryside to keep them safe from air raids.

It's time America considers well funded public boarding schools for its youth. An idyllic countryside setting would be a great equalizer to break the cycle of poverty. All students could be getting the same education from adult role models that are uncommon back on the streets and Americans would see there's more to the world and culture beyond the limited boundaries of gang turf or surburban bubbles. Start with areas that qualify as war-zones like Chicago.


That's racist.

At least that's how it will be portrayed when the "community leaders" realize their money and power base are threatened.  There's no personal power to be gained from actually helping the poverty-stricken, only from talking about it.
 
2013-08-12 06:53:48 AM  
I just don't understand how this is good for business. You are supposed to shoot rival gangs in your territory, not potential customers.
 
2013-08-12 06:54:51 AM  
And yet OUR PRESIDENT DOES NOTHING!!! Well, I shouldn't say that, he's going on a multi-million dollar vacation at tax payer expense on Martha's Vineyard.
 
2013-08-12 07:06:53 AM  

Piizzadude: Betep: Piizzadude: Vitamin Pb: Betep: If they only had a Community Organizer!

Nah, they just need strict gun control. And maybe somebody could bribe the local politicians to get the gangs to stop killing everybody...

And drug laws
and muslim control
and gubment to give us  jerbs
and less gun control
and

You know what? Just anarchy. Lets go there. Let mother nature take its course. The strong survive.

You forgot "Hope and Change".
Barry O'Bamma is that kinda guy.

Putin has more control in the Russo-Chicago community.

You are in the wrong tab. This isnt the "fark with the black guy" tab


Dude - EVERY tab on Farkkk.com is a "fark with the black guy" tab. This is where all the scared little racists go to vent the shiat they don't have the balls to spew in real life, and who think they have too much class for 4chan.
Welcome, as they say, to Fark.
 
2013-08-12 07:14:58 AM  

Macular Degenerate: When are we going to admit that we lost the south side of Chicago to the thugs and just give up? Condemn all the buildings to force everyone to move everyone out, shut off the city services, and bulldoze everything.

If you are a parent and you are still living in this squalid hell-hole you are officially part of the problem, not part of the solution.


Well, we haven't lost the entire southside. The area around Midway, Beverly, Hyde Park, and Bridgeport/Chinatown are decent. The place we really need to bulldoze is on the west side... Austin.

Also they are closing schools because of a concerted effort to move people out of the crappy neighborhoods and into the burbs or down state. The schools are undercrowded on the south and west sides. I would guess that the whole northside thing is gonna start spreading to everywhere except Uptown. Its already happening... people a little older than me are staying in the city to raise their kids and my generation might do the same. There is little desire to go to the burbs and there is plenty of room in the city near public transit. Just gotta get rid of the gang bangers somehow.
 
2013-08-12 07:15:06 AM  

cyberspacedout: Good thing school's out on Saturday nights.


That's what I was going to say; however, it did happen on a Saturday night and there is NO place on the planet that's guaranteed to be absolutely safe.  Especially in Chicago.
 
2013-08-12 07:20:46 AM  

danielscissorhands: Safe passage routes?They do the same thing in Canada, in areas with high levels of elk on elk crime. [www.focusonmexico.com image 500x298]


Is that a bridge just for Elk?  If so, that's pretty cool.  For whatever reson the past two weeks I've had to dodge a LOT of deer - during broad daylight now less.  But if Canada recognized that as a hazardous area and took such action, that is very cool.
 
2013-08-12 07:30:51 AM  
videogamecritic.com
 
2013-08-12 07:35:21 AM  

TomD9938: Piizzadude: There is just nothing good about this. Any of it.

FTHL :

Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

I'd say it not happening during school hours is good.


Talk about redefining low expectations.
 
2013-08-12 07:37:18 AM  

TomD9938: Piizzadude: There is just nothing good about this. Any of it.

FTHL :

Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

I'd say it not happening during school hours is good.

/This
/fark off suburbanites.

 
2013-08-12 07:46:02 AM  
Lets just admit that if we're going to solve this we need to get really tough on crime. It's time we go police state on this. We call in the military and do a total crackdown on these dumbass gangbangers. And bring back public executions.
 
2013-08-12 07:57:03 AM  

Richard C Stanford: Lets just admit that if we're going to solve this we need to get really tough on crime. It's time we go police state on this. We call in the military and do a total crackdown on these dumbass gangbangers. And bring back public executions.


And what makes you think they will stop with the gangbangers, citizen?
 
2013-08-12 08:09:45 AM  
Law abiding citizens just need bigger guns.
www.viewfromthebleachers.net
 
2013-08-12 08:10:47 AM  
> When are we going to admit that we lost the south side of Chicago to the thugs and just give up?


Why don't we just tell the kids that if you go down there you better just beware of a man named Leroy Brown?
 
2013-08-12 08:33:19 AM  
If you know where they are good enough to have "safe routes" why not roll in with Natl. Guard units and clean this shiat up?
 
2013-08-12 08:50:51 AM  
I will not sacrifice Chicago. We've made too many compromises already; too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire neighborhoods and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And *I* will make them pay for what they've done.

- George Zimmerman.
 
2013-08-12 08:51:20 AM  
You cannot tell me that lines on a map aren't keeping kids safe, Rahm says it will!
 
2013-08-12 08:53:22 AM  

AngryDragon: xcv: World War 2 London organized sending their children to the countryside to keep them safe from air raids.

It's time America considers well funded public boarding schools for its youth. An idyllic countryside setting would be a great equalizer to break the cycle of poverty. All students could be getting the same education from adult role models that are uncommon back on the streets and Americans would see there's more to the world and culture beyond the limited boundaries of gang turf or surburban bubbles. Start with areas that qualify as war-zones like Chicago.

That's racist.

At least that's how it will be portrayed when the "community leaders" realize their money and power base are threatened.  There's no personal power to be gained from actually helping the poverty-stricken, only from talking about it.


Years ago when Arne Duncan was CEO of CPS, he actually proposed opening boarding schools within the city boundaries. It didn't get any further than a few conversations, but it was one of his best ideas, I think. It would have changed lives for some of those kids.
 
2013-08-12 08:57:34 AM  

wildcardjack: How's that half-hearted gun control working for ya?

Just curious, what sort of drugs are funding the gangs these days? It is stuff we'd be willing to talk about legalizing? Is it possible to undercut the funding for gangs? I mean, other than shipping more jobs overseas.


Half-hearted?  They can't keep drugs, phones, weapons and other contraband out of PRISONS!  How exactly will they completely get rid of them in Chicago, in Illinois, or in the entire US?  Oh, you mean gun control for LAW ABIDING citizens.
 
2013-08-12 09:07:45 AM  

cman: I like Chicago's new slogan: Not as much of a shiathole as Detroit


You live in Maine.
 
2013-08-12 09:08:10 AM  

wildcardjack: How's that half-hearted gun control working for ya?

Just curious, what sort of drugs are funding the gangs these days? It is stuff we'd be willing to talk about legalizing? Is it possible to undercut the funding for gangs? I mean, other than shipping more jobs overseas.


A lot of the funding is coming from ID theft and other more sophisticated crimes rather than simply drug dealing. Of course, that is also happening but it's just one string of revenue.
 
2013-08-12 09:08:46 AM  

Macular Degenerate: When are we going to admit that we lost the south side of Chicago to the thugs and just give up? Condemn all the buildings to force everyone to move everyone out, shut off the city services, and bulldoze everything.

If you are a parent and you are still living in this squalid hell-hole you are officially part of the problem, not part of the solution.


That's a terrible idea!

Those neighborhoods act as containment. If we shut them down, they might come here.
 
2013-08-12 09:09:16 AM  

some_beer_drinker: Feel_the_velvet: City of Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

Wait.  They make kids go to school on Saturday Night now?   That's outrageous!

came here for this. i don't really see the relation.


I think the real issue is that a city has to create a DMZ in hopes of preventing the killing of school children. If your society has devolved to the point where you can't even be sure your kids can survive a trip to school, you've lost civilization itself.
 
2013-08-12 09:12:36 AM  

juniperwasting: If you need a thing like this safe passage map, you have already lost your city; and to a greater extent the children who would have inherited it are now just killing each other.  Sad.


To be fair it's only small parts of the city that have never been areas that you'd find postcards for. Though if you're gonna be wandering around the nice areas I'd still recommend bringing pepper spray.
 
2013-08-12 09:13:17 AM  
I see this worked out as well as it did for the treasure ships on the Spanish Main.
 
2013-08-12 09:13:52 AM  

jso2897: Piizzadude: Betep: Piizzadude: Vitamin Pb: Betep: If they only had a Community Organizer!

Nah, they just need strict gun control. And maybe somebody could bribe the local politicians to get the gangs to stop killing everybody...

And drug laws
and muslim control
and gubment to give us  jerbs
and less gun control
and

You know what? Just anarchy. Lets go there. Let mother nature take its course. The strong survive.

You forgot "Hope and Change".
Barry O'Bamma is that kinda guy.

Putin has more control in the Russo-Chicago community.

You are in the wrong tab. This isnt the "fark with the black guy" tab

Dude - EVERY tab on Farkkk.com is a "fark with the black guy" tab. This is where all the scared little racists go to vent the shiat they don't have the balls to spew in real life, and who think they have too much class for 4chan.
Welcome, as they say, to Fark.


I never see Obama's race come up until the people who claim to be on his side drag it into the conversation as a shield against criticism. It's their version of wrapping themselves in the flag.
 
2013-08-12 09:20:09 AM  

naughtyrev: AngryDragon: xcv: World War 2 London organized sending their children to the countryside to keep them safe from air raids.

It's time America considers well funded public boarding schools for its youth. An idyllic countryside setting would be a great equalizer to break the cycle of poverty. All students could be getting the same education from adult role models that are uncommon back on the streets and Americans would see there's more to the world and culture beyond the limited boundaries of gang turf or surburban bubbles. Start with areas that qualify as war-zones like Chicago.

That's racist.

At least that's how it will be portrayed when the "community leaders" realize their money and power base are threatened.  There's no personal power to be gained from actually helping the poverty-stricken, only from talking about it.

Years ago when Arne Duncan was CEO of CPS, he actually proposed opening boarding schools within the city boundaries. It didn't get any further than a few conversations, but it was one of his best ideas, I think. It would have changed lives for some of those kids.


Getting kids out of blue state warzones would be the best thing for immediately solving the problem. They've got to be physically and spiritually removed from the destructive culture they're stuck in, and this is not about being in a black community. Its the urbanization that has become the most dangerous thing for them.

Simply putting kids into another institution, inside an already corrupt and violent institution, is just begging for a disaster. They need to be resettled outside the city.
 
2013-08-12 09:44:23 AM  

Feel_the_velvet: City of Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

Wait.  They make kids go to school on Saturday Night now?   That's outrageous!


Piizzadude: Betep: Piizzadude: Vitamin Pb: Betep: If they only had a Community Organizer!

Nah, they just need strict gun control. And maybe somebody could bribe the local politicians to get the gangs to stop killing everybody...

And drug laws
and muslim control
and gubment to give us  jerbs
and less gun control
and

You know what? Just anarchy. Lets go there. Let mother nature take its course. The strong survive.

You forgot "Hope and Change".
Barry O'Bamma is that kinda guy.

Putin has more control in the Russo-Chicago community.

You are in the wrong tab. This isnt the "fark with the black guy" tab


No, not at all. I don't vote based on Race or Party Lines.
Obama was a shiatty Community Activist and brought his poor judgement to the White House.

I used to go to Chicago for a manufacturing based business from 1985 - 2005.  I used to like the trip. The contact I have there says "it's really taken a dive".

My 4th year as an American Citizen Belorussian-American friend in Chicago says the love of Putin is strong. Her safe neighborhood is former KGB Russian Mafia. No shrines like MLK or Malcom X, but they respect Putin.
 
2013-08-12 09:55:38 AM  

jjorsett: jso2897: Dude - EVERY tab on Farkkk.com is a "fark with the black guy" tab. This is where all the scared little racists go to vent the shiat they don't have the balls to spew in real life, and who think they have too much class for 4chan.
Welcome, as they say, to Fark.

I never see Obama's race come up until the people who claim to be on his side drag it into the conversation as a shield against criticism. It's their version of wrapping themselves in the flag.


keepkansasjobs.com
 
2013-08-12 09:57:48 AM  

naughtyrev: AngryDragon: xcv: World War 2 London organized sending their children to the countryside to keep them safe from air raids.

It's time America considers well funded public boarding schools for its youth. An idyllic countryside setting would be a great equalizer to break the cycle of poverty. All students could be getting the same education from adult role models that are uncommon back on the streets and Americans would see there's more to the world and culture beyond the limited boundaries of gang turf or surburban bubbles. Start with areas that qualify as war-zones like Chicago.

That's racist.

At least that's how it will be portrayed when the "community leaders" realize their money and power base are threatened.  There's no personal power to be gained from actually helping the poverty-stricken, only from talking about it.

Years ago when Arne Duncan was CEO of CPS, he actually proposed opening boarding schools within the city boundaries. It didn't get any further than a few conversations, but it was one of his best ideas, I think. It would have changed lives for some of those kids.


My lottery winning fantasy is opening up a self-sustaining boarding school for high risk youth.

The kids would learn agriculture, cooking, cleaning, light maintenance work, therapy, and have the very best education. The goal would be either vocational certification or college for every one.

I wanted to buy an old five star hotel with a built-in swimming pool, grounds to garden, and posts for security officers to help reduce gang and bad family influences.

I want to call it the Academy for the Gifted.

Alas,I rarely play and will never win.
 
2013-08-12 09:59:29 AM  

cman: I like Chicago's new slogan: Not as much of a shiathole as Detroit


My "safe passage" route works wonderfully:  from one terminal of O'Hare airport to another terminal.  There's always a bit of tension over whether the inevitable delay will turn into an overnight stranding, but eventually I always manage to escape that Godforsaken city.
 
2013-08-12 10:08:44 AM  

Bontesla: My lottery winning fantasy is opening up a self-sustaining boarding school for high risk youth.

The kids would learn agriculture, cooking, cleaning, light maintenance work, therapy, and have the very best education. The goal would be either vocational certification or college for every one.

I wanted to buy an old five star hotel with a built-in swimming pool, grounds to garden, and posts for security officers to help reduce gang and bad family influences.

I want to call it the Academy for the Gifted.

Alas,I rarely play and will never win.


Don't worry, you have a far better chance of winning the lottery than pulling that off.
 
2013-08-12 10:23:09 AM  
Declare the gangs a terrorist threat, which they are.

Use federal funds and all the resources that become available with that classification to wipe them out. As in, maintaining our War on Terror and using military force.

Simplistic, but conceptually feasible.
 
2013-08-12 10:24:16 AM  
All of those white homegrown terrorists at it again.  If ya can't let a little kid farking walk to school, then society isn't going to help ya.  Eat a bullet and let us watch for your family all weeping in airbrushed t-shirts with your picture throwing gang signs and all done up to match their Crip blue ensemble while they plea to us working folk to pay for their funeral via facebook donation and telling us "he didn't deserve this". Dresden would be too good for these drainers of all things good.  Get the 5 good families out of there that raise yall kids while you run over your "add a line" contract to t mobile (how does one rack up over 2000 bux in charges?) until ya win the lottery and have to act like ya barely know the person on Judge Judy so you can get to visit yo peoples outta state and get out of actually paying for that phone too.  Sheesh.  Just pump the brakes at some point, ghetto.  Hopefully the winner of the East 25th Latin Kings Leadership Scholarship will come back to their barrio and fix things after college.
 
2013-08-12 10:24:24 AM  

danielscissorhands: What, Subby?

For Chicago, 2 people shot and 1  killed on a Saturday night  is considered "safe passage."


Those were just the ones who were on the Map Route. The rest will be reported separately.
 
2013-08-12 10:40:21 AM  

zeroman987: Also they are closing schools because of a concerted effort to move people out of the crappy neighborhoods and into the burbs or down state. The schools are undercrowded on the south and west sides. I would guess that the whole northside thing is gonna start spreading to everywhere except Uptown. Its already happening... people a little older than me are staying in the city to raise their kids and my generation might do the same. There is little desire to go to the burbs and there is plenty of room in the city near public transit.


There was a very good article that I can't find which showed exactly this. Chicago is losing population through people abandoning the poor regions in the south and west sides. Meanwhile the north side is becoming more diverse and more prosperous and that prosperity is spreading to nearby areas.

So basically it used to be if you were white you lived on the north side, if you were black you lived on the south/west side and if you were hispanic you lived in the west side places where blacks didn't live. What's slowly happening now is if your income is middle class or higher you live on the north side. If you're not quite middle class you live near the north side. Otherwise you're either too poor to move or you leave the city.
 
2013-08-12 10:55:58 AM  

jjorsett: some_beer_drinker: Feel_the_velvet: City of Chicago maps out "Safe Passage" routes to keep kids out of harm's way as they cross gang boundaries on their way to and from school. Fark: 2 people shot; 1 killed along one of those routes Saturday night

Wait.  They make kids go to school on Saturday Night now?   That's outrageous!

came here for this. i don't really see the relation.

I think the real issue is that a city has to create a DMZ in hopes of preventing the killing of school children. If your society has devolved to the point where you can't even be sure your kids can survive a trip to school, you've lost civilization itself.


Well we could, but liberals get their panties in a bunch about surveillance, racial profiling, and the war on black people.
 
Ant
2013-08-12 10:56:42 AM  

Pichu0102: How would they go about reclaiming land overrun by organized crime or gangs anyways? What forces could they use? Just police?


Get a bunch of hipsters to move in. Some of them will open trendy restaurants that serve the same ethnic food you used to get in the neighborhood for a quarter of the price. Pretty soon, there'll be overpriced dive-bars, expensive condos, and gastro-pubs, and all the people who used to live there will be forced out because rents will skyrocket. Ta-da!

Gentrification: It works.
 
2013-08-12 11:04:49 AM  

DenisBergkamp: Come now Chicago, get your shiat together.


Don't tell a WHOLE city how to do things... you can't prevent millions of people from doing something illegal.

Heck, this MORNING I woke up to the sound of helicopters hovering.

Looked out my balcony facing west and see TWO of them hovering over the West Side (west of Western & Chicago ave.).

Happy Monday Morning Chicago
 
2013-08-12 11:07:28 AM  

Bontesla: My lottery winning fantasy is opening up a self-sustaining boarding school for high risk youth.


Good luck. Girard College in Philly is shutting down their boarding school after 164 years.
 
2013-08-12 11:16:28 AM  

squibbits: Looks like gun control is working just as well there as it is in Mexico.


LOL, gun control. Anyone without a felony who $10 and a photo ID can get a FOID (firearm owners ID) card here by mail.

It's harder to get a voter ID card in Texas, but the right insists that this is "gun control" and it must be a huge failure because somehow it's not working.

Ignore the fact that many of the guns getting into the hands of Chicago's gang members are being brought here from Indiana, which is a whole 20 minute drive from the south side, where their gun laws are much less strict.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-02-17/news/ct-met-guns-gangs -2 0130217_1_levaine-tanksley-gun-laws-gun-trafficker

Clearly, this is all the fault of someone deciding that the people of Illinois should need a FOID card to legally own a weapon. If we weren't required to have a FOID card, none of there murders would happen.
 
2013-08-12 11:25:31 AM  

odinsposse: zeroman987: Also they are closing schools because of a concerted effort to move people out of the crappy neighborhoods and into the burbs or down state. The schools are undercrowded on the south and west sides. I would guess that the whole northside thing is gonna start spreading to everywhere except Uptown. Its already happening... people a little older than me are staying in the city to raise their kids and my generation might do the same. There is little desire to go to the burbs and there is plenty of room in the city near public transit.

There was a very good article that I can't find which showed exactly this. Chicago is losing population through people abandoning the poor regions in the south and west sides. Meanwhile the north side is becoming more diverse and more prosperous and that prosperity is spreading to nearby areas.

So basically it used to be if you were white you lived on the north side, if you were black you lived on the south/west side and if you were hispanic you lived in the west side places where blacks didn't live. What's slowly happening now is if your income is middle class or higher you live on the north side. If you're not quite middle class you live near the north side. Otherwise you're either too poor to move or you leave the city.


When I worked for the City, I had access to the ownership records via map. The city owned properties were marked on these maps. There were blocks where the city had foreclosed on more than half the lots. The people living there died, their heirs didn't keep up the property, it became a hazard, and the city tore down the structures and forclosed.

There was also a study that tracked the people in housing projects after they had closed down that found that while some moved to mixed income neighborhoods, many voluntarily went to poverty stricken neighborhoods with the theory essentially being it is easier to borrow milk or sugar from another low income person than your middle class neighbor; they felt they couldn't continue to receive the community support they were getting at the projects with a bunch of people making way more money than them.
 
2013-08-12 11:28:16 AM  

Disgruntled Goat: Declare the gangs a terrorist threat, which they are.

Use federal funds and all the resources that become available with that classification to wipe them out. As in, maintaining our War on Terror and using military force.

Simplistic, but conceptually feasible.


Congratulations, you just made appointing Laura Bush as a liaison to stopping gang violence among youths seem like a good idea.
 
2013-08-12 11:28:59 AM  

squirrelflavoredyogurt: squibbits: Looks like gun control is working just as well there as it is in Mexico.

LOL, gun control. Anyone without a felony who $10 and a photo ID can get a FOID (firearm owners ID) card here by mail.

It's harder to get a voter ID card in Texas, but the right insists that this is "gun control" and it must be a huge failure because somehow it's not working.

Ignore the fact that many of the guns getting into the hands of Chicago's gang members are being brought here from Indiana, which is a whole 20 minute drive from the south side, where their gun laws are much less strict.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-02-17/news/ct-met-guns-gangs -2 0130217_1_levaine-tanksley-gun-laws-gun-trafficker

Clearly, this is all the fault of someone deciding that the people of Illinois should need a FOID card to legally own a weapon. If we weren't required to have a FOID card, none of there murders would happen.


Explain to me how a FOID and a voter ID or a poll tax are conceptually similar or dissimilar in your mind.

Do you support both, one, or none? Why?
 
2013-08-12 11:38:41 AM  

Ant: Pichu0102: How would they go about reclaiming land overrun by organized crime or gangs anyways? What forces could they use? Just police?

Get a bunch of hipsters to move in. Some of them will open trendy restaurants that serve the same ethnic food you used to get in the neighborhood for a quarter of the price. Pretty soon, there'll be overpriced dive-bars, expensive condos, and gastro-pubs, and all the people who used to live there will be forced out because rents will skyrocket. Ta-da!

Gentrification: It works.


And then do you send wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes at the hipsters?
 
2013-08-12 11:41:57 AM  
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2013-08-12 11:48:43 AM  

berylman: 49 elementary school closings in one year... I don't keep up with Chicago but did they declare bankruptcy too or what?


After years of Fat King Daley kowtowing to the Teachers Unions, our new mayor, Emmanuel, has put on paper what everyone else has known. Enrollment has dropped by about 10-15% and we simply don't need all of them.

So while Chicago is (almost) bankrupt, this is actually a natural way to save money.
 
2013-08-12 12:18:53 PM  
squirrelflavoredyogurt:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-02-17/news/ct-met-guns-gangs -2 0130217_1_levaine-tanksley-gun-laws-gun-trafficker

Clearly, this is all the fault of someone deciding that the people of Illinois should need a FOID card to legally own a weapon. If we weren't required to have a FOID card, none of there murders would happen.


What the guy in the article was doing is illegal in all 50 states.  More gun laws would not have stopped him.
 
2013-08-12 12:19:16 PM  
Mostly surprised this hasn't been posted yet:

dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net

/Mostly.
 
2013-08-12 12:33:04 PM  

Joe Blowme: If you know where they are good enough to have "safe routes" why not roll in with Natl. Guard units and clean this shiat up?


The Posse Comitatus Act prevents that: you can't use the military for law-enforcement purposes.

xcv: World War 2 London organized sending their children to the countryside to keep them safe from air raids.

It's time America considers well funded public boarding schools for its youth. An idyllic countryside setting would be a great equalizer to break the cycle of poverty. All students could be getting the same education from adult role models that are uncommon back on the streets and Americans would see there's more to the world and culture beyond the limited boundaries of gang turf or surburban bubbles. Start with areas that qualify as war-zones like Chicago.


Finish the job of killing off the family, eh? I've got to say, I'm not so sure the cure wouldn't be worse than the disease.
 
2013-08-12 01:03:42 PM  
Betcha no more murders if Louis F call out the Fruit of Islam for his pal...
 
2013-08-12 01:24:14 PM  

Anschauer: Betcha no more murders if Louis F call out the Fruit of Islam for his pal...


themadjewess.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-08-12 02:01:02 PM  
Do kids go to school on a Saturday night? Then I think the city government has made it's point!
 
2013-08-12 02:05:22 PM  

xcv: World War 2 London organized sending their children to the countryside to keep them safe from air raids.

It's time America considers well funded public boarding schools for its youth. An idyllic countryside setting would be a great equalizer to break the cycle of poverty. All students could be getting the same education from adult role models that are uncommon back on the streets and Americans would see there's more to the world and culture beyond the limited boundaries of gang turf or surburban bubbles. Start with areas that qualify as war-zones like Chicago.


Good idea. That could never go wrong.

t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-08-12 02:29:26 PM  
Come out and playyyyyyyyyy!
 
2013-08-12 02:31:13 PM  

Mitch Mitchell: Make it night school only.  Negro kids are harder to hit in the dark.


But what about all those night fighters?
 
2013-08-12 02:32:40 PM  

pedobearapproved: ShawnDoc: Yup, not too many kids going to school on a Sat night during summer break.

I think the idea is that if murders are routinely happening on the "safe route" it might not be that safe, even a whole two weeks later when school gets back in session.  It's not like these maps are sending them past "murder club" that's only open 9 pm to 2 am, weekends only.


Yeah, but the reason the route is considered a "safe route" is that they'll have police and volunteers patrolling the street during the times kids are walking to/from school, thus making it safe.  What happens on a Sat night when there are no volunteers or special police patrols going on is really irrelevant.
 
2013-08-12 03:06:47 PM  

AngryDragon: squirrelflavoredyogurt:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-02-17/news/ct-met-guns-gangs -2 0130217_1_levaine-tanksley-gun-laws-gun-trafficker

Clearly, this is all the fault of someone deciding that the people of Illinois should need a FOID card to legally own a weapon. If we weren't required to have a FOID card, none of there murders would happen.

What the guy in the article was doing is illegal in all 50 states.  More gun laws would not have stopped him.


Hush, you. We're trying to tell conservatives what they think, so we can win the argument by tearing down the strawman we're building.
 
2013-08-12 03:13:54 PM  

EyeballKid: Disgruntled Goat: Declare the gangs a terrorist threat, which they are.

Use federal funds and all the resources that become available with that classification to wipe them out. As in, maintaining our War on Terror and using military force.

Simplistic, but conceptually feasible.

Congratulations, you just made appointing Laura Bush as a liaison to stopping gang violence among youths seem like a good idea.


Sorry. What I meant to say was, "continue things as they are and let poor families and business owners in these areas who have no choice in the matter become prey for the increasingly powerful gangs, allowing the whole problem spread as the gangs grow larger and bolder."

Oh, and maybe build some more basketball courts.
 
2013-08-12 03:36:15 PM  
"To escape the evil gangster's curse, you must first recite a Bible verse."
 
2013-08-12 03:50:38 PM  
It's been so long since I was in Chicago that I remember when Cabrini Green was safe unless you said Candyman three times.
 
2013-08-12 04:09:15 PM  

Tatterdemalian: AngryDragon: squirrelflavoredyogurt:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-02-17/news/ct-met-guns-gangs -2 0130217_1_levaine-tanksley-gun-laws-gun-trafficker

Clearly, this is all the fault of someone deciding that the people of Illinois should need a FOID card to legally own a weapon. If we weren't required to have a FOID card, none of there murders would happen.

What the guy in the article was doing is illegal in all 50 states.  More gun laws would not have stopped him.

Hush, you. We're trying to tell conservatives what they think, so we can win the argument by tearing down the strawman we're building.


My bad.  Carry on.
 
2013-08-12 04:49:11 PM  

over_and_done: cman: I like Chicago's new slogan: Not as much of a shiathole as Detroit

My "safe passage" route works wonderfully:  from one terminal of O'Hare airport to another terminal.  There's always a bit of tension over whether the inevitable delay will turn into an overnight stranding, but eventually I always manage to escape that Godforsaken city.


The people of Chicago thank you for keeping your lazy, uninformed ass out of their city. If you're scared of the route from O'Hare to downtown then you're probably better off never visiting a city of more than 100,000 people.
 
2013-08-12 05:58:18 PM  
51 more days til the puck drops, amiright Chicago?!?
 
2013-08-12 09:40:14 PM  

SlagginOff: over_and_done: cman: I like Chicago's new slogan: Not as much of a shiathole as Detroit

My "safe passage" route works wonderfully:  from one terminal of O'Hare airport to another terminal.  There's always a bit of tension over whether the inevitable delay will turn into an overnight stranding, but eventually I always manage to escape that Godforsaken city.

The people of Chicago thank you for keeping your lazy, uninformed ass out of their city. If you're scared of the route from O'Hare to downtown then you're probably better off never visiting a city of more than 100,000 people.


...and falling.

Happy to avoid a gang-run shiathole whose only claim to fame is that they don't suck as bad as Detroit.
 
2013-08-13 09:26:46 AM  

FormlessOne: SlagginOff: over_and_done: cman: I like Chicago's new slogan: Not as much of a shiathole as Detroit

My "safe passage" route works wonderfully:  from one terminal of O'Hare airport to another terminal.  There's always a bit of tension over whether the inevitable delay will turn into an overnight stranding, but eventually I always manage to escape that Godforsaken city.

The people of Chicago thank you for keeping your lazy, uninformed ass out of their city. If you're scared of the route from O'Hare to downtown then you're probably better off never visiting a city of more than 100,000 people.

...and falling.

Happy to avoid a gang-run shiathole whose only claim to fame is that they don't suck as bad as Detroit.


You should avoid visiting NYC because of Brownsville, San Francisco because of the Tenderloin, and LA because of Compton.

In fact, you're probably better off sticking to small farm towns, with maybe a few stops in some well to do suburbs.
 
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