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(Pro Football Talk)   Atlanta Falcons fans didn't hear about the new NFL bag rule, resulting in "hundreds" of purses being held at the security station. Considering they just recently started figuring out what time the games actually start, baby steps   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 60
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2013-08-11 01:54:07 AM
"This policy is not going away.  It's an NFL initiative that we're going to enforce the entire season."

The NFL has done more to alienate fans during Roger Goodell's reign than any major sports commissioner that I can think of.  The NFL is still the preeminent sports league in America, but that has been due to the prior work of Rozelle and Tagliabue.  Goodhell has done nothing thus far but sabotage their legacies.
 
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2013-08-11 03:56:47 AM

IntertubeUser: "This policy is not going away.  It's an NFL initiative that we're going to enforce the entire season."

The NFL has done more to alienate fans during Roger Goodell's reign than any major sports commissioner that I can think of.  The NFL is still the preeminent sports league in America, but that has been due to the prior work of Rozelle and Tagliabue.  Goodhell has done nothing thus far but sabotage their legacies.


Watching a game at home is becoming a better experience than going to the game.
 
2013-08-11 07:32:41 AM

IntertubeUser: "This policy is not going away.  It's an NFL initiative that we're going to enforce the entire season."

The NFL has done more to alienate fans during Roger Goodell's reign than any major sports commissioner that I can think of.  The NFL is still the preeminent sports league in America, but that has been due to the prior work of Rozelle and Tagliabue.  Goodhell has done nothing thus far but sabotage their legacies.


I'll still watch the games because you can never take football away from me. But attendance? Yeah, no. I have some free tix to a preseason game and I'll go just to say hello to my stadium, but that's it. I'd rather sit here with a beer that didn't cost $8, watch on a decent plasma screen, and be able to piss without missing an entire quarter. The beer and piss problems aren't Goodell's fault, of course, but I'm b*tching randomly.

Yeah, you have to endure some pretty stupid truck and beer commercials when watching at home or in a bar, but it beats all of the BS (and cost) of seeing it live these days.

/will try to smuggle a pint of bourbon into the game, but at this rate I'll probably be TSA'd.
 
2013-08-11 08:16:23 AM

MBK: IntertubeUser: "This policy is not going away.  It's an NFL initiative that we're going to enforce the entire season."

The NFL has done more to alienate fans during Roger Goodell's reign than any major sports commissioner that I can think of.  The NFL is still the preeminent sports league in America, but that has been due to the prior work of Rozelle and Tagliabue.  Goodhell has done nothing thus far but sabotage their legacies.

Watching a game at home is becoming a better experience than going to the game.


I still prefer being at the Superdome for Saints games.
 
2013-08-11 08:51:44 AM

MBK: IntertubeUser: "This policy is not going away.  It's an NFL initiative that we're going to enforce the entire season."

The NFL has done more to alienate fans during Roger Goodell's reign than any major sports commissioner that I can think of.  The NFL is still the preeminent sports league in America, but that has been due to the prior work of Rozelle and Tagliabue.  Goodhell has done nothing thus far but sabotage their legacies.

Watching a game at home is becoming a better experience than going to the game.


Agreed.  I can stay home with my Wide Screen HD TV, comfy couches, clean bathroom and food that cost me a fraction of the concession stand.  I don't have to pay $50 to park my car.  I don't have to worry about drunk idiots spilling beer on me or starting fights or anyone trying to taze me because they are rooting for the other team.
 
2013-08-11 09:06:23 AM
Let's see ... considering the closest stadium to me will charge anywhere from $5-$50 for parking alone (the range varies due to the day of the week, how anticipated a game it is, the weather, how much the kids manning the parking garage ticket booth want to pocket) in addition to the hassles present once I'm actually in the stadium (brawls, bathroom lines, overpriced food and drink), I'd much rather drive 10 minutes to the local sports pub and spend $10 on good food and enjoy their big screen TV with surround sound.

/Oh, I forgot to mention the billion tollboothes between my house and the nearest stadium.
//Fark Taxachusetts.
 
2013-08-11 09:25:01 AM

IntertubeUser: The NFL has done more to alienate fans during Roger Goodell's reign than any major sports commissioner that I can think of.


I dunno, hockey fans don't seem to like Gary Bettman very much.
 
2013-08-11 09:31:08 AM
Don't link to or go to Pro Football Talk. They banned me for asking reporters why they immediately accepted the NFL's contention that reports of a list of players who were clients or potential clients of Sam Hurd's drug ring were false. Hurd pled guilty in April, so that's that.
 
2013-08-11 09:36:51 AM

Nabb1: still prefer being at the Superdome for Saints games.


Dude, it's beyond frustrating these days. The Dome is nicer post-K but far more irritating, and this just makes it worse. To be honest, if offered free season tickets I would give them to a kid who needs to see his Saints in person and grow up being as hopelessly addicted as the rest of us.

/season tix holder from Ditka through Haz and the first part of Payton
 
2013-08-11 09:37:31 AM
This is all a test.  Emperor Goodell is seeing just how much crap he can pull,  The bad part is,  there seems to be no limit on what football fans will take,
 
2013-08-11 09:48:12 AM
You can't bring purses into NFL games now because TERRORISM or some crap like that, yet here's Turkish soccer fans protesting a ban on FLARES!
 
2013-08-11 09:57:21 AM

Brostorm: This is all a test.  Emperor Goodell is seeing just how much crap he can pull,  The bad part is,  there seems to be no limit on what football fans will take,


Well, it's similar to waiting to see how much a society will take before they break and revolt. NFL fans will watch until the game becomes Sarcastiball and we're all wearing bras and tossing a balloon.

/any football fan who hasn't seen "sarcastiball" should do so now

Link
 
2013-08-11 10:03:08 AM
graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-08-11 10:03:50 AM
BTW, it's South Park and shouldn't be more than 20 minutes Yes, Goodell is in there.
 
2013-08-11 10:15:50 AM
Let me see of i have this right. The NFL is using the Boston marathon bombings a justification for the new policy. So they are worried about some smuggling a pressure cooker bomb into the stadium in a purse even though they have been asking women to open them up so they can take a look and have been using metal detectors for a very very long time?

I call BS! This is nothing more than an attempt to keep people from smuggling in a pint of liquor.
 
2013-08-11 10:25:31 AM
I like the NASCAR rules concerning bags. You can bring in everything including beer, food, etc provided you can fit it in a 2x2 cooler. I actually was concerned that they would ban the coolers after boston but they didn't.
 
2013-08-11 10:27:10 AM

MBK: Watching a game at home is becoming a better experience than going to the game.


I used to have season tickets for four people at FedEx Field. You have to leave at 10am to get there and you only got home 6-7pm through VERY stressful post-game traffic. The ticket cost alone ran $2400. I think we did two seasons before deciding that we're way better-off buying a top-of-the-line 60" plasma and watching the games at home, turning an 8-9 hour slog into 3 hours of game and 5-6 hours of doing something else with your life.
 
2013-08-11 10:29:43 AM

Brostorm: This is all a test.  Emperor Goodell is seeing just how much crap he can pull,  The bad part is,  there seems to be no limit on what football fans will take,


It's not just football, it's everywhere. 

"Here, empty your bag and use a crappy plastic bag for your stuff. What? You've sucked it up at marathons. Safety first!"  People do it. (I just won't go to any event that won't allow me to take my normal bag with me.)
"Now you need to have your nail polish remover purchases monitored via your state-issued ID. What? You've sucked it up for the Ny-Quil and/or ZZZ-Quil, so suck it up again." People do it. (In that case, I just won't buy at CVS anymore.)

It's the country and everyone is seeing how much people will take. And it looks like there is no end to what people will take.  I am far less concerned about "security" at an event than I am about my privacy.  If I was to go to a football game, why the hell couldn't I have my purse? Why should i have to put my wallet and whatever else (what women DOESN'T want her tampons in a clear plastic bag at a football game?  And please note that most women's clothing doesn't have much in the way of pockets, if it has pockets at all)  fark it.  I'll just stay home. And that is increasingly my decision because it's too much of a pain in the ass to go anywhere. 

I'm pretty sure the last Wrestlemania was the last big event of that sort I'll ever go to.
 
2013-08-11 10:31:53 AM
First Stage: 'Either I turn over the purse I shopped all over town for or I don't even get to take with me to show off.  Fark that! I'm not going!'

Second Stage: 'You're going to the game that so insulted and mistreated me? Fark that! You're not going, either!'

Third Stage: 'You went to the game, anyway?  Fark that, because you aint farking THIS again any time soon!'

Fourth Stage: 'Roger Goodhell was burned at the stake by angry and extremely frustrated NFL fans.  Fark him!'
 
2013-08-11 10:35:03 AM

sammyk: Let me see of i have this right. The NFL is using the Boston marathon bombings a justification for the new policy. So they are worried about some smuggling a pressure cooker bomb into the stadium in a purse even though they have been asking women to open them up so they can take a look and have been using metal detectors for a very very long time?

I call BS! This is nothing more than an attempt to keep people from smuggling in a pint of liquor.


Let's say the average stadium holds 50,000 drinkers. Let's assume that maybe 20% of them carry bags large enough to hide a pint. Of those, half do. That translates to 5,000 $7 Coors Lights which works out to... around $350,000 a year per stadium.

I think your idea certainly crossed their minds during the decision-making process.
 
2013-08-11 10:44:30 AM

dickfreckle: Nabb1: still prefer being at the Superdome for Saints games.

Dude, it's beyond frustrating these days. The Dome is nicer post-K but far more irritating, and this just makes it worse. To be honest, if offered free season tickets I would give them to a kid who needs to see his Saints in person and grow up being as hopelessly addicted as the rest of us.

/season tix holder from Ditka through Haz and the first part of Payton


I have season tickets. I just allot my time accordingly.
 
2013-08-11 10:47:23 AM
IntertubeUser:
The NFL has done more to alienate fans during Roger Goodell's reign than any major sports commissioner that I can think of.

www.rivercitysportsblog.com

Challenge accepted.
 
2013-08-11 10:53:28 AM

vygramul: sammyk: Let me see of i have this right. The NFL is using the Boston marathon bombings a justification for the new policy. So they are worried about some smuggling a pressure cooker bomb into the stadium in a purse even though they have been asking women to open them up so they can take a look and have been using metal detectors for a very very long time?

I call BS! This is nothing more than an attempt to keep people from smuggling in a pint of liquor.

Let's say the average stadium holds 50,000 drinkers. Let's assume that maybe 20% of them carry bags large enough to hide a pint. Of those, half do. That translates to 5,000 $7 Coors Lights which works out to... around $350,000 a year per stadium.

I think your idea certainly crossed their minds during the decision-making process.


LOL you think a $7 Colorado Rinsewater = a pint of liqour!  Also, you didn't include the sale of all the mixer soft drinks those purse-toters gonna want.
 
2013-08-11 11:10:55 AM

Nabb1: dickfreckle: Nabb1: still prefer being at the Superdome for Saints games.

Dude, it's beyond frustrating these days. The Dome is nicer post-K but far more irritating, and this just makes it worse. To be honest, if offered free season tickets I would give them to a kid who needs to see his Saints in person and grow up being as hopelessly addicted as the rest of us.

/season tix holder from Ditka through Haz and the first part of Payton

I have season tickets. I just allot my time accordingly.


Been to quite a few stadiums and even though real saints fans are pretty nice I would rather watch them on my 65" TV.
 
2013-08-11 11:20:14 AM

angrymacface: IntertubeUser: The NFL has done more to alienate fans during Roger Goodell's reign than any major sports commissioner that I can think of.

I dunno, hockey fans don't seem to like Gary Bettman very much.


Bettman you can boo.

Goodell will find a rule out his ass to punish the team and the fans if he whims.
 
2013-08-11 11:23:10 AM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: vygramul: sammyk: Let me see of i have this right. The NFL is using the Boston marathon bombings a justification for the new policy. So they are worried about some smuggling a pressure cooker bomb into the stadium in a purse even though they have been asking women to open them up so they can take a look and have been using metal detectors for a very very long time?

I call BS! This is nothing more than an attempt to keep people from smuggling in a pint of liquor.

Let's say the average stadium holds 50,000 drinkers. Let's assume that maybe 20% of them carry bags large enough to hide a pint. Of those, half do. That translates to 5,000 $7 Coors Lights which works out to... around $350,000 a year per stadium.

I think your idea certainly crossed their minds during the decision-making process.

LOL you think a $7 Colorado Rinsewater = a pint of liqour!  Also, you didn't include the sale of all the mixer soft drinks those purse-toters gonna want.


I didn't want to overestimate how much money this means to the NFL, I was trying to find a floor and see if it's ENOUGH for them to care about. A high estimate is probably easily an order of magnitude more.
 
2013-08-11 11:24:30 AM

Igor Jakovsky: I like the NASCAR rules concerning bags. You can bring in everything including beer, food, etc provided you can fit it in a 2x2 cooler. I actually was concerned that they would ban the coolers after boston but they didn't.


Holy crap.

NASCAR is cooler than the NFL.
 
2013-08-11 11:25:44 AM
They search bags to go into movie theaters. They've been searching them to get into stadiums for years. Now they've decided fark it just don't bring your bags to the game.

And this is an outrage? Personally I'm glad I don't have to wait anymore for them to search through 100s of purses while I'm waiting to get into the game. Sorry you can't smuggle your liquor into the game anymore, I'll see if I can find a tiny violin that the jackasses sitting behind me won't be quite as drunk as they would have been if they snuck liquor in. A real shame.

Anyway, the stadium experience in the NFL frankly sucks now. If not bringing your purse is in is what stops you from coming, instead of the about 500 real reasons why it sucks, then whatever. Maybe they'll improve the experience if less idiots come to games trying to smuggle liquor.
 
2013-08-11 11:34:54 AM
As if we needed yet another reason to not go to the games.

BFD
 
2013-08-11 11:43:23 AM
If your experience is better watching the game at home, you probably have a crappy team with crappy fans.
 
2013-08-11 11:46:49 AM
"This policy is not going away."

But I am.  Between drunken asshole fans who thinks it's their god-given right to be obnoxious jerks 'I bought my tickets, I can say whatever I want', concession stand extortion, parking fees that costs more than a BJ on 5th ave, and 1 1/2 hout of gridlock getting home, even if someone gave me a free ticket, I wouldn't attend.

I'd rather go to a PBA tour game

/Earl Anthony, where have you gone?
 
2013-08-11 11:47:03 AM

js34603: They search bags to go into movie theaters. They've been searching them to get into stadiums for years. Now they've decided fark it just don't bring your bags to the game.

And this is an outrage? Personally I'm glad I don't have to wait anymore for them to search through 100s of purses while I'm waiting to get into the game. Sorry you can't smuggle your liquor into the game anymore, I'll see if I can find a tiny violin that the jackasses sitting behind me won't be quite as drunk as they would have been if they snuck liquor in. A real shame.

Anyway, the stadium experience in the NFL frankly sucks now. If not bringing your purse is in is what stops you from coming, instead of the about 500 real reasons why it sucks, then whatever. Maybe they'll improve the experience if less idiots come to games trying to smuggle liquor.


It gives people a chance to take shots at Roger Goddell, as if he's done things half as detrimental to his sport as Bud Selig, David Stern, or Gary Bettman.
 
2013-08-11 12:02:39 PM
Don't forget about the "stool rule" which they are rolling out in 2014 wherein you must produce a stool sample, to be screened by FSA agents at the gate, to demonstrate that you have not consumed peanuts in a 24 hour period, so as to not subject allergic children to third-hand peanut exposure.
 
2013-08-11 12:03:17 PM

Yes please: If your experience is better watching the game at home, you probably have a crappy team with crappy fans.


Or you host Philadelphia on the schedule and have a lot of friends who come over anyway.
 
2013-08-11 12:04:52 PM
Damn theres a lot of purse carriers in this thread!
 
2013-08-11 12:05:48 PM

mikaloyd: Damn theres a lot of purse carriers in this thread!


the rule also applies to seat cushions, bags and other stuff.
 
2013-08-11 12:16:06 PM

WhyteRaven74: mikaloyd: Damn theres a lot of purse carriers in this thread!

the rule also applies to seat cushions, bags and other stuff.


I bet you could make a killing selling gel cushions that fit in a one gallon baggie
 
2013-08-11 12:23:23 PM

vygramul: sammyk: Let me see of i have this right. The NFL is using the Boston marathon bombings a justification for the new policy. So they are worried about some smuggling a pressure cooker bomb into the stadium in a purse even though they have been asking women to open them up so they can take a look and have been using metal detectors for a very very long time?

I call BS! This is nothing more than an attempt to keep people from smuggling in a pint of liquor.

Let's say the average stadium holds 50,000 drinkers. Let's assume that maybe 20% of them carry bags large enough to hide a pint. Of those, half do. That translates to 5,000 $7 Coors Lights which works out to... around $350,000 a year per stadium.

I think your idea certainly crossed their minds during the decision-making process.


No stupid bag ban will stop me from sneaking my booze in. I'll just kiester it. Can't ban ass.

If they won't let women bring their purses in, where are they going to keep their tampons? This new policy has the potential to become a bloody embarrassment for the NFL.
 
2013-08-11 12:46:18 PM

ongbok: If they won't let women bring their purses in, where are they going to keep their tampons? This new policy has the potential to become a bloody embarrassment for the NFL.


You must've missed the part where they gave them their shiat in a plastic bag.
 
2013-08-11 01:55:27 PM

mikaloyd: Damn theres a lot of purse carriers in this thread!


Don't dis the purse-bottle.

I've attended Texas vs. Rice games.  The only reason I survived was the bottle in my wife's purse...though the MOB always was pretty cool.
 
2013-08-11 02:21:10 PM
There is always the booby flask.

We went to the Chik-Fil-A bowl a couple of years in a row.  I was punched, had beer spilled on me and while it wasn't miserable it wasn't as fun as I thought it would be.
 
2013-08-11 03:06:47 PM
So how long before the NFL opens its own TV channel and goes full Pay per view. 50$ a game or more just like you were buying crappy seats at the stadium. plus service charges and handling fees and some random TSA agent will come to your home to frisk you pregame just to make sure your house is safe and that you get the full NFL experience.
 
2013-08-11 03:38:49 PM

poisonedpawn78: So how long before the NFL opens its own TV channel and goes full Pay per view.


Not going to happen.  That means a fraction of the viewing audience of the networks.  Currently, CBS, Fox, NBC, and ABC/ESPN collectively pay just under $5 billion annually to show NFL games.  PPV is never going to be able to come close to that.

The highest gate a PPV has ever gotten was the 2007 De La Hoya-Mayweather fight - with a whopping 2.4 million buys for....$130 million.

PPV is chump change compared to the NFL.
 
2013-08-11 04:31:53 PM
Meanwhile, wooo someone I know scored a preseason TD!
 
2013-08-11 04:33:01 PM

UNC_Samurai: poisonedpawn78: So how long before the NFL opens its own TV channel and goes full Pay per view.

Not going to happen.  That means a fraction of the viewing audience of the networks.  Currently, CBS, Fox, NBC, and ABC/ESPN collectively pay just under $5 billion annually to show NFL games.  PPV is never going to be able to come close to that.

The highest gate a PPV has ever gotten was the 2007 De La Hoya-Mayweather fight - with a whopping 2.4 million buys for....$130 million.

PPV is chump change compared to the NFL.


Yeah, the NFL has been smart in (other than NFL network and ESPN) keeping the vast majority of games over the air, as well.  It makes sense though, since it probably helps the legacy networks retain an audience for other shows that they can advertise during the games.
 
2013-08-11 04:37:17 PM

IAmRight: Meanwhile, wooo someone I know scored a preseason TD!


Jeff Tuel?
 
2013-08-11 04:56:48 PM

davidphogan: IAmRight: Meanwhile, wooo someone I know scored a preseason TD!

Jeff Tuel?


Nope, Brandon Kaufman.
 
2013-08-11 05:00:22 PM

angrymacface: IntertubeUser: The NFL has done more to alienate fans during Roger Goodell's reign than any major sports commissioner that I can think of.

I dunno, hockey fans don't seem to like Gary Bettman Bergman very much.


FTFY.
 
2013-08-11 05:00:54 PM

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: vygramul: sammyk: Let me see of i have this right. The NFL is using the Boston marathon bombings a justification for the new policy. So they are worried about some smuggling a pressure cooker bomb into the stadium in a purse even though they have been asking women to open them up so they can take a look and have been using metal detectors for a very very long time?

I call BS! This is nothing more than an attempt to keep people from smuggling in a pint of liquor.

Let's say the average stadium holds 50,000 drinkers. Let's assume that maybe 20% of them carry bags large enough to hide a pint. Of those, half do. That translates to 5,000 $7 Coors Lights which works out to... around $350,000 a year per stadium.

I think your idea certainly crossed their minds during the decision-making process.

LOL you think a $7 Colorado Rinsewater = a pint of liqour!  Also, you didn't include the sale of all the mixer soft drinks those purse-toters gonna want.


Dealing with 50,000 slightly less drunk morons has got to be pretty appealing too.  Our first couple years of season tickets were in the cheapest of seats.  You'd be surprised how many people can't take the long walk to the top of the stadium in a drunken stupor and just pass out and piss themselves on the concourse.  And that shiats before the game even starts and it only gets crazier from there.  I fully support drinking just think it's sad that anyone over 20 hasn't figured out what their booze stages/limits are.  Don't pay over $100 for a cheapseats ticket and get kicked before the game even starts.
 
2013-08-11 05:32:29 PM

Yes please: If your experience is better watching the game at home, you probably have a crappy team with crappy fans.


Sorry, but no. Outrageous parking fees coupled with too many people that can't drink without going into total rage-mode doesn't sound appealing to me.

A friend of mine went to a Patriot-Dolphins game at Gillette Stadium a few years back. He's a Phins fan, and the tickets were bought by his wife. Being the first time he ever got to see his team, he decided to wear his Marino jersey. During the game, people were calling his wife a slut, biatch, skank, etc. They were also throwing snowballs at the two of them (to the point that he had cuts on his neck and ears). On the way out, a guy was harassing him in the parking lot enough to the point where he thought he was going to get assaulted.

So, what exactly is the appeal of seeing the game live when stuff like that is what you're subjected to?
 
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