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(Extreme Tech)   Statistics show that talking on a hand-held cell phone while driving does not lead to more accidents. Texting drivers are still assholes though   ( divider line
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1992 clicks; posted to Main » on 10 Aug 2013 at 4:38 PM (4 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2013-08-10 04:01:12 PM  
4 votes:
And that graphic was carefully controlled to eliminate other things that could skew the results like safety improvements?

Listen, anybody that has seen a person talk and drive at the same time knows it decreases performance. Anybody who thinks they can text and watch the road is going to have an accident.
2013-08-10 04:47:21 PM  
3 votes:
Bull farking shiat. I like playing guess of they're drunk, 90, or on the phone. Generally, they're on the phone.
2013-08-10 07:18:06 PM  
1 vote:

Jarhead_h: And cell phones are perfectly safe to use on an airplane, too. You think of any of the government types or their apologizers will admit it or change it if admitted?  The state cannot be wrong, ever - first commandment of government worship.

They are already starting to look at changing those laws. Sorry if erring on the side of public safety inconvenienced you for the whole 10 minutes it takes for a freaking plane to take off.

Cripes... we got a bunch of Jack Bauers and international diplomats trying to prevent WWIII up in here. I had no idea the average Farker was so important.
2013-08-10 06:12:23 PM  
1 vote:

MrHelpful: Well some of us tried to use that same line of reasoning with stoners who keep insisting that stoned drivers are the safest people in the universe even though anyone who's ever seen someone stoned knows they suck at driving. It didn't convince them at all. Guess it all depends on what agenda you're advocating for, eh?

Only the true idiots use that argument. The rest of us know it's a concern and want it to be treated the same as any other DUI. Testing is the problem but I'm sure there must be a way to use a combo of erratic driving leads to road side test leads to check the pupils to maybe some kind of optical scanner and a facial swab to detect THC on the skin then a car search and then downtown for any other testing.

Get a hands free or wait to you are parked. You really are not that important.
2013-08-10 05:58:14 PM  
1 vote:
I claim bullshiat. My own personal experience of watching idiots on cellphones cause traffic mayhem by not paying attention to their surroundings while on the phone.
IE doing 45 in the left center farking lane of a 5 lane highway while screaming at someone on the farking phone. I've seen idiots on cell phones run red lights because their too busy to bother looking. I've seen them take 20 seconds plus to notice there was a green light.

The reason they make this claim is that no one is going to admit to being on the phone after being in an accident.
2013-08-10 05:56:51 PM  
1 vote:
It doesn't really matter WHAT you are doing. If it is somthing OTHER than paying "FULL" attention to the road and the business of navigating a 2000LB+ missile around people and objects then you are a Douche.
There are people who can chew gum and walk and there are those who can't...
Long before cell phones people were losing control because they were tuning the radio...
2013-08-10 05:55:40 PM  
1 vote:
It's easy to spot people who are texting or facebook-ing while they drive. They leave an inordinate amount of space in front of their car and frequently tap their brakes for no reason.

If you're doing this, and a guy on a sport bike blows around your car and scares the shiat out of you, that was me, and yes, I scared you on purpose.
2013-08-10 05:23:58 PM  
1 vote:
"Statistics show that talking on a hand-held cell phone while driving does not lead to more accidents" ... than talking on a hands-free device, which is just as dangerous.

2013-08-10 05:07:05 PM  
1 vote:
Seriously, just get off the phone!

If I take a call, or check text messages I pull over and make the car safe. Technically I'm still in the wrong because the law here is that you need the ignition off *and* I believe the key removed. (Not 100% sure about the latter).

I've been in situations where someone is about to pull out onto a road and they're talking on their mobile phone - so I've stood in front of their car indicating for them to get off it before I move so they can too. Sooner or later, they do.
2013-08-10 04:59:14 PM  
1 vote:
FTA:  They identified drivers as those whose calls were regularly handed off from cell tower to cell tower. At the time, most carriers offered free calling after 9 pm. Bhargava and Pathania found motorists increased their calling by 7% at 9pm. They pulled up data on eight million car crashes in those four years as well as all fatal crashes. Their finding: no statistical link. Crashes didn't go up when calling went up.

That is a very dubious conclusion to make from that. Looking at only a very narrow window of time, especially one where there might not be that many people out driving, doesn't seem particularly valid. Also, cellphones weren't nearly as ubiquitous back in 2005 as they are today; there are a lot more younger people with cellphones now than there were back then. Also the study had no way to know who in the car was using a cell phone. In short, bad study is bad.
2013-08-10 04:53:52 PM  
1 vote:
Lemme guess... these statistics came from the Whiny Self Entitled Assholes Who Make Sh*t Up So They Can Get Their Own Way No Matter How Petty the Issue Despite the Costs to Society Institute.

I love the work they've done for the GOP. Guess they're branching out to the more general selfish dillhole population.
2013-08-10 04:50:49 PM  
1 vote:

HotGore: Maybe we are just shiatty drivers

shiatty drivers + taking "acceptable risks."
2013-08-10 04:49:12 PM  
1 vote:
FTFA: There's a damning graphic in their study that compares cellphone ownership over 20 years vs. car crashes. Ownership is steadily up, crashes and fatal crashes are steadily down.

Did their study also prove that correlation does in fact equal causation? Otherwise this study seems like nothing other than a fun way to troll the media and statisticians
2013-08-10 04:48:27 PM  
1 vote:
my dad was killed in an auto accident after some some chick blew through a stop sign and hit him.

she was talking on her phone and "didn't see the stop sign," according to the police report.

so, you know, fark those statistics.
2013-08-10 04:43:04 PM  
1 vote:
"The mobile user data would include passengers as well as drivers. "

Well, good, because supposedly the ludicrous DUI/DWI laws were written using data from crashes where anyone was drinking, driver or not. All's fair, motherfarkers.
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