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(CBS DC)   NFL to curtail excessive celebrations. Cleveland Browns say it's the one rule they hope to have the chance to break   (washington.cbslocal.com ) divider line
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2013-08-10 09:42:39 AM  
 
2013-08-10 11:25:55 AM  
content6.flixster.com

Yeah! I made a touchdown.
 
2013-08-10 12:01:32 PM  
Is this a repeat from 2012, 2011, 2010.....
 
2013-08-10 12:04:26 PM  
l.victorystore.com
 
2013-08-10 12:04:52 PM  
FTFA: The NFL rulebook states that a team will be penalized a loss of 15 yards if a player commits these acts: "sack dances; home run swing; incredible hulk; spiking the ball; spinning the ball; throwing or shoving the ball; pointing; pointing the ball; verbal taunting; military salute; standing over an opponent (prolonged and with provocation); or dancing."

Wtf?

Over the past decade, I went from NFL Sunday ticket, to Sunday game day, then to just to my team, and last year just "meh" - and the insane push by Goddell to remove any semblance of defense, contact, and fun from the game has been a distinct factor. As I've gotten older my entertainment choices have broadened. You can't keep reducing yoru rproduct and think you're going to be able to sway me from alternatives that don't have such increasingly inane restrictions.
 
2013-08-10 12:07:32 PM  
No Fun League.

Googleize: "CFL, duck duck goose"
 
2013-08-10 12:10:50 PM  

Carousel Beast: FTFA: The NFL rulebook states that a team will be penalized a loss of 15 yards if a player commits these acts: "sack dances; home run swing; incredible hulk; spiking the ball; spinning the ball; throwing or shoving the ball; pointing; pointing the ball; verbal taunting; military salute; standing over an opponent (prolonged and with provocation); or dancing."

Wtf?


I think that the no spiking rule does not apply in the end zone. I might have misunderstood, but I think you can still spike for a touchdown, but not a first down (for example)
 
2013-08-10 12:17:42 PM  
Leaping into the audience is still okay though.
 
2013-08-10 12:19:45 PM  
I'd like to make fun of the Browns, but as a Raiders fan, I'm just hoping to win a couple of games....

/it's hard to be a Raiders fan
 
2013-08-10 12:47:58 PM  

Betep: No Fun League.

Googleize: "CFL, duck duck goose"


You mean this?

/One of my first greenlights on Fark
 
2013-08-10 12:54:00 PM  

muck4doo: Leaping into the audience is still okay though.


That's a TD celebration, which is still okay
 
2013-08-10 01:07:43 PM  

basemetal: I'd like to make fun of the Browns, but as a Raiders fan, I'm just hoping to win a couple of games....

/it's hard to be a Raiders fan


They'll be back. Hang in there.

/Not a Raider fan... but always liked them.
//Might be awhile, but the AFC West seems to be getting worse every year.
 
2013-08-10 02:19:35 PM  
Browns > your team
 
das
2013-08-10 02:41:56 PM  
As Tom Landry said 30 years ago about touchdown celebrations: Act like you've been in the end zone before.
 
2013-08-10 03:13:30 PM  

Carousel Beast: FTFA: The NFL rulebook states that a team will be penalized a loss of 15 yards if a player commits these acts: "sack dances; home run swing; incredible hulk; spiking the ball; spinning the ball; throwing or shoving the ball; pointing; pointing the ball; verbal taunting; military salute; standing over an opponent (prolonged and with provocation); or dancing."


Fast forward a few more years "...15 yard penalties will also occur for the following: looking your opponent in the eyes; running with the ball after catching it (makes the defense feel inferior for their bad tackling/blown coverage);  scoring touchdowns (makes other team feel bad and may cause them to lose); fans wearing team colors that make visiting teams feel unwelcome; fans who have signs consisting of the letter D and some fencing, since this is the improper way to spell 'defense'.  Also there will be no awarding of trophies after the superbowl and no one will be selected for MVP."

"Followup to the above, this is the last year football will be played, next year it will be replaced by sarcastaball.  Enjoy your balloon."
 
2013-08-10 03:15:47 PM  

das: As Tom Landry said 30 years ago about touchdown celebrations: Act like you've been in the end zone before.


What if it is your first time you ever score a touchdown?  You are some O-lineman who picked up a fumble and ran it into the endzone and it is literally your first time ever scoring a touchdown.
 
2013-08-10 03:42:46 PM  
Those players are merely employees, and there's no reason for them to be allowed to enjoy their work.
 
2013-08-10 04:28:48 PM  
On the one hand, the league is no fun.

On the other hand, celebrating a sack like you just discovered the cure for cancer is another.
 
2013-08-10 05:13:27 PM  

buckeyebrain: Betep: No Fun League.

Googleize: "CFL, duck duck goose"

You mean this?

/One of my first greenlights on Fark


Who knew at one time the Bombers could play football?
 
2013-08-10 05:17:53 PM  

Hyjamon: das: As Tom Landry said 30 years ago about touchdown celebrations: Act like you've been in the end zone before.

What if it is your first time you ever score a touchdown?  You are some O-lineman who picked up a fumble and ran it into the endzone and it is literally your first time ever scoring a touchdown.


I can understand something like that, where the player actually went above and beyond.  However more often than not it's the player that has put the least amount of effort into the drive that is doing it.

The only problem I have against celebrations are the first down celebrations...saw several last night....wow you actually did the minimum you were asked to do.  You caught the ball and dropped to the ground...whoopdie doo
 
2013-08-10 06:00:33 PM  

Frow: Hyjamon: das: As Tom Landry said 30 years ago about touchdown celebrations: Act like you've been in the end zone before.

What if it is your first time you ever score a touchdown?  You are some O-lineman who picked up a fumble and ran it into the endzone and it is literally your first time ever scoring a touchdown.

I can understand something like that, where the player actually went above and beyond.  However more often than not it's the player that has put the least amount of effort into the drive that is doing it.

The only problem I have against celebrations are the first down celebrations...saw several last night....wow you actually did the minimum you were asked to do.  You caught the ball and dropped to the ground...whoopdie doo


I agree with you there and add to it: sacks.  I can see celebrating a 1st down if it was hard fought or at a critical part of the game (got your team in range for a game winning FG) or a sack at a key defensive stance.  But to allow refs the flexibility to decide if a celebration was worthy or not on 1st down celebrations, sacks or hard tackles would add to much potential bias in the game and/or butthurt/complaints from fans.  Just have a flat, zero-tolerance on any celebration beyond high-fiving a teammate in the huddle for non-touchdown plays.
 
2013-08-10 06:16:49 PM  
So my idea of 10 guys setting themselves up like bowling pins and the guy who scored rolling the ball toward them and "getting a strike" probably wouldn't go over well, then.
 
2013-08-10 06:17:53 PM  

Hyjamon: das: As Tom Landry said 30 years ago about touchdown celebrations: Act like you've been in the end zone before.

What if it is your first time you ever score a touchdown?  You are some O-lineman who picked up a fumble and ran it into the endzone and it is literally your first time ever scoring a touchdown.


Yup, I always felt like this opinion was outdated and ridiculous. You play a game where you may never play another down beyond the one you're playing right now. You might as well celebrate on the rare occasion where you do score.

Hyjamon: I agree with you there and add to it: sacks.


Number of sacks in 2012: 1169
Number of offensive TDs in 2012: 1158

I dunno, seems like it's a pretty comparable achievement for a side of the ball and a group that sure isn't going to see the end zone too often in their careers.

BTW, most of these rules are not allowed in specific instances, not in general. Like spinning the ball is okay as long as you're not doing it AT your opponent. Basically it's the same damn rule it's always been with taunting, but they added some stuff for the hell of it to f*ck with some players that were getting too popular.
 
2013-08-10 06:19:37 PM  

Wadded Beef: So my idea of 10 guys setting themselves up like bowling pins and the guy who scored rolling the ball toward them and "getting a strike" probably wouldn't go over well, then.


Hate to say it, but unless you had the idea at least before 2006...
 
2013-08-10 06:27:48 PM  

IAmRight: Wadded Beef: So my idea of 10 guys setting themselves up like bowling pins and the guy who scored rolling the ball toward them and "getting a strike" probably wouldn't go over well, then.

Hate to say it, but unless you had the idea at least before 2006...


Well, rats.
 
2013-08-10 06:36:23 PM  
Best one I ever saw was in the AFL, the guy jumped over the boards with the football, the three linemen came up to the boards like it was a bar, and the player acted as though the ball was a bottle pouring shots. The linemen downed "shots" and the celebration was over.
 
2013-08-10 06:43:09 PM  
AmRight: Hyjamon: das:
 

Hyjamon: I agree with you there and add to it: sacks.

Number of sacks in 2012: 1169
Number of offensive TDs in 2012: 1158


Number of Field Goals in 2012: 852

By this account Kickers should be doing the macarana after every FG, yet they are some of the coolest cucumbers on the teams, even after hitting game winners.


BTW, most of these rules are not allowed in specific instances, not in general. Like spinning the ball is okay as long as you're not doing it AT your opponent. Basically it's the same damn rule it's always been with taunting, but they added some stuff for the hell of it to f*ck with some players that were getting too popular.
 
well, taunting in the NBA has been applied oddly at times. In the NBA taunting fouls/penalties have been called for one player looking at an opponent after a play.  I expect the same will happen in the NFL.
 
2013-08-10 06:55:11 PM  

Hyjamon: By this account Kickers should be doing the macarana after every FG, yet they are some of the coolest cucumbers on the teams, even after hitting game winners.


I wouldn't have a problem with them doing so. They do need to remember that ultimately a FG represents a failure of their own team's offense, so they probably shouldn't celebrate too much. Also, they get pretty crazy after game-winners most of the time. 

Hyjamon: well, taunting in the NBA has been applied oddly at times. In the NBA taunting fouls/penalties have been called for one player looking at an opponent after a play.  I expect the same will happen in the NFL.


The NFL has had the same taunting rules in place since I can remember. They added a few specific dances that affect a few players, but oh well. And this is from someone who thoroughly enjoys celebrations and thinks it's silly to take everything so seriously.
 
2013-08-10 07:04:22 PM  

Hyjamon: By this account Kickers should be doing the macarana after every FG, yet they are some of the coolest cucumbers on the teams, even after hitting game winners.


www.totalprosports.com
 
2013-08-10 07:29:37 PM  

das: As Tom Landry said 30 years ago about touchdown celebrations: Act like you've been in the end zone before.


Tom Landry wanted his team run like a machine. It shouldn't be surprising that he couldn't stand the thought of his cogs having any sort of emotion whatsoever.
 
2013-08-10 07:39:16 PM  

robsul82: Hyjamon: By this account Kickers should be doing the macarana after every FG, yet they are some of the coolest cucumbers on the teams, even after hitting game winners.

[www.totalprosports.com image 275x206]


totally had that in my mind as I typed it. well played.

Would have also accepted Gus Frerotte (even though not a kicker)
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but my memory wants to say there was another kicker who head butted a wall (Dallas?) or Bill Gramatica's brother also had a stupid injury, but my google fu can't seem to confirm
 
2013-08-10 08:35:32 PM  
I hope the Browns break the rule an average of four times a game.

I hope the defense can handle the way field position will be tilted with the 15 yard penalties but - top 5 in scoring would be a lot nicer than bottom 10.

Unfortunately Browns luck might mirror '53 Eagles (#1 in O and D and missed the playoffs)
 
2013-08-11 08:15:19 AM  
Goodell was on ESPN the other day and said these will only be penalized if they're specifically directed at a player. It's basically just the taunting rule. Nothing to see here.
 
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