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(Time)   In news that anyone with an IQ higher than Jenny McCarthy's should love to hear, researchers announce that a new vaccine appears to offer total protection from malaria, which kills about 600,000 people annually   (healthland.time.com) divider line 109
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2013-08-10 12:41:56 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: More profitable to treat the disease than its cause, right?
Big Pharma: Always. Always turn a profit at the expense of public health.


WTF?  Treatments for malaria after you catch it already exist, but cost money.  This vaccine is a preventative.  What's your problem?

And big pharama is seldom excited about vaccines.  They aren't as profitable as, say, viagra.
 
2013-08-10 12:45:07 PM
And through the law of unintended consequences, this will probably mean the end of a number of animal species...

Fun fact: most of the wildlife preserves in Asia exist mainly because they're malarial pestholes. For example, for centuries the the only people who lived in the Chitwan region of Nepal / India was a small tribe that evidently had a natural resistance to malaria. It's now one of the last refuges for Bengal tigers, Asian Rhinos and sloth bears. Cheap and effective treatment of malaria has opened up places like that and put pressure on them already. Eliminate malaria and you can kiss them goodbye.

Not that I'm saying the vaccine is a bad thing... I'm just sad about something I suspect will happen because of it.
 
2013-08-10 12:45:43 PM

Nemo's Brother: Bill Maher is as dumb as Jenny McCarthy in this regard. He is also an executive of PETA which makes him borderline retarded.


Oh lord, another one escaped from the Politics tab.  Sorry guys, I've been trying to hold them back, but sometimes they slip through.

/yes, Maher is a farking twit a lot of the time
//now go finish your cookie
 
2013-08-10 12:59:48 PM

Raharu: There will still be assholes who are against it for a variety of really stupid reasons
ranging from racism, to conspiracy theories about global domination and autism.


YES, BUT RATHER THAN IGNORE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO ENDANGER EVERYBODY ELSE, LET'S KEEP FIGHTING AGAINST THEM, YEAH?


/I can make my messages look really serious too!!!
 
2013-08-10 01:01:07 PM
Great.  600, 000 more people a year with autism.
 
2013-08-10 01:05:27 PM
600,000 poor people
 
2013-08-10 01:05:30 PM

rubi_con_man: Awesome. I look forward to competing with another billion people a year for work.


You have a job that a billion other people can do?  Have you ever thought of developing a skill, or are you just emotionally attached to that fry daddy?
 
2013-08-10 01:05:37 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Raharu: There will still be assholes who are against it for a variety of really stupid reasons
ranging from racism, to conspiracy theories about global domination and autism.

YES, BUT RATHER THAN IGNORE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO ENDANGER EVERYBODY ELSE, LET'S KEEP FIGHTING AGAINST THEM, YEAH?


I think we should go out and get every vaccine someone has ever dreamed up multiple times. That'll show them.
 
2013-08-10 01:06:52 PM

J. Frank Parnell: The My Little Pony Killer: Raharu: There will still be assholes who are against it for a variety of really stupid reasons
ranging from racism, to conspiracy theories about global domination and autism.

YES, BUT RATHER THAN IGNORE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO ENDANGER EVERYBODY ELSE, LET'S KEEP FIGHTING AGAINST THEM, YEAH?

I think we should go out and get every vaccine someone has ever dreamed up multiple times. That'll show them.


Not sure if anti-vaxxer or just stupid.
 
2013-08-10 01:08:44 PM
Yes, 600,000 people in countries that can't afford to feed them for the most part.  Good job.
 
2013-08-10 01:09:42 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Yes, so you can't treat it as one by using a vaccine.
Keeping people from getting an illness without eradicating the cause is a huge profit opportunity.


If big pharma really cared about  PEOPLE and not PROFIT they would develop a cure for stagnant  water, amirite?
 
2013-08-10 01:10:27 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: J. Frank Parnell: The My Little Pony Killer: Raharu: There will still be assholes who are against it for a variety of really stupid reasons
ranging from racism, to conspiracy theories about global domination and autism.

YES, BUT RATHER THAN IGNORE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO ENDANGER EVERYBODY ELSE, LET'S KEEP FIGHTING AGAINST THEM, YEAH?

I think we should go out and get every vaccine someone has ever dreamed up multiple times. That'll show them.

Not sure if anti-vaxxer or just stupid.


He's both.
 
2013-08-10 01:10:31 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: J. Frank Parnell: The My Little Pony Killer: Raharu: There will still be assholes who are against it for a variety of really stupid reasons
ranging from racism, to conspiracy theories about global domination and autism.

YES, BUT RATHER THAN IGNORE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO ENDANGER EVERYBODY ELSE, LET'S KEEP FIGHTING AGAINST THEM, YEAH?

I think we should go out and get every vaccine someone has ever dreamed up multiple times. That'll show them.

Not sure if anti-vaxxer or just stupid.


Looking at his profile, he's also a UFO conspiracy nut, so probably both.
 
2013-08-10 01:10:32 PM

born_yesterday: Great.  600, 000  600,136 more people a year with autism.



Sorry.
 
2013-08-10 01:10:33 PM
Re; wiping out mosquitoes.
Have humans ever made one species of insects extinct? Ever?
 
2013-08-10 01:21:48 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Not sure if anti-vaxxer or just stupid.


Saying there's vaccines you wouldn't take? And i'm the anti-vaxxer?

Problem i'm trying to illustrate is that people who say everything someone calls a vaccine should be taken without question are every bit as stupid as those saying you should take none.

I am neither of those people, but who are you?
 
2013-08-10 01:32:19 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Saying there's vaccines you wouldn't take?


When did I ever say this? You spewed absolute craziness about people taking the same vaccine multiple times. I'm not even going to address the rest of your lunacy.
 
2013-08-10 01:53:34 PM
Folks, the main problem with malaria is not the killing part. It's the fever 'n' ague part. Sure, we save people from dying, overpopulation, yadda yadda yadda. The main impact malaria has is that completely lays people out for weeks at a time. If you're a kid, you don't go to school. If you're an adult, you really can't work, even hoeing the family vegetable garden. A malaria vaccine would free up millions of lost man-hours that could be more productively spent making the tropical nation in question a better place.
 
2013-08-10 01:57:57 PM
Great, now we're going to have 600,000 more liters clogging up these threads.
 
2013-08-10 02:08:11 PM

Raharu: There will still be assholes who are against it for a variety of really stupid reasons
ranging from racism, to conspiracy theories about global domination and autism.


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Louder sonnny. I can'ts here's ya....
 
2013-08-10 02:09:04 PM

Raharu: There will still be assholes who are against it for a variety of really stupid reasons
ranging from racism, to conspiracy theories about global domination and autism.


And assholes who will be 100% blindly support of it, without taking into account anything else.
 
2013-08-10 02:11:11 PM

theorellior: Folks, the main problem with malaria is not the killing part. It's the fever 'n' ague part. Sure, we save people from dying, overpopulation, yadda yadda yadda. The main impact malaria has is that completely lays people out for weeks at a time. If you're a kid, you don't go to school. If you're an adult, you really can't work, even hoeing the family vegetable garden. A malaria vaccine would free up millions of lost man-hours that could be more productively spent making the tropical nation in question a better place.


And lower labour costs in those areas means cheaper bananas and rice at Walmart !!
 
2013-08-10 02:15:57 PM

T.rex: Raharu: There will still be assholes who are against it for a variety of really stupid reasons
ranging from racism, to conspiracy theories about global domination and autism.

And assholes who will be 100% blindly support of it, without taking into account anything else.



And many of us know a good deal about it, and have followed the story since it first started. Did you know that originally for this vaccine to work, due to its unique nature, required over 1000 treated and irradiated Mosquitos bites over a period of time. It's now at the stage that it can be administered via an IV over a few treatments.
 
2013-08-10 02:16:09 PM
Offer to research a vaccine for autism if Jenny McCarthy shuts the hell up about it.
 
2013-08-10 02:31:13 PM

thisispete: There's a Vsauce video that credits malaria with half of the fatalities across human history. We've been fighting those little bastard parasites since before we came out of the trees. And losing.


History of medicine and history of imperialism books and courses do too. Malaria is our most important and necessary natural selector. One of the biggest fears that we have is, what will happen if our most important natrual selector is removed? What would that do to our species? To our environments?
 
2013-08-10 02:40:18 PM
I was in Choco Colombia (It's a region on the Pacific coast of Colombia, lots of jungle) in the 90's for a week.  The school there had a venn diagram where each of the 3 circles was a different strain of malaria.

7 kids in the class were infected with all 3 strains.  Only 2 kids were outside of the venn diagram out of 30+ kids.
 
2013-08-10 02:44:35 PM
Fark shills keep the anti JM headlines coming regular intervals,
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2013-08-10 02:50:44 PM
Bennie Crabtree:

thisispete: There's a Vsauce video that credits malaria with half of the fatalities across human history. We've been fighting those little bastard parasites since before we came out of the trees. And losing.

History of medicine and history of imperialism books and courses do too. Malaria is our most important and necessary natural selector. One of the biggest fears that we have is, what will happen if our most important natrual selector is removed? What would that do to our species? To our environments?


Except it hasn't been a significant selector since around the end of WWII... Between DDT, sanitation awareness and cheap treatments it only kills ~600k per year. So... Several human generations so far.
 
2013-08-10 02:52:54 PM
EliminateNinniesAndTwits:

Fark shills keep the anti JM headlines coming regular intervals,
earning their pay


Devolution's finest product, ladies and gentlemen... Let's give him a big round of applause.
 
2013-08-10 03:04:31 PM

Nemo's Brother: Bill Maher is as dumb as Jenny McCarthy in this regard. He is also an executive of PETA which makes him borderline retarded.


He also is a germ theory denialist. When my atheist friends quote him on Facebook, it makes me laugh pretty hard
 
2013-08-10 03:24:26 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Aquapope: HotIgneous Intruder: More profitable to treat the disease than its cause, right?
Big Pharma: Always. Always turn a profit at the expense of public health.

A vaccination is treating the cause of a disease.  You knew that, right?

Vectors, how do they work?
Mosquitoes carry the malaria virus. Mosquitoes are the vector.
Letting the vector live is like telling people to stop washing their hands because we can treat their inevitable resultant sickness with a shot.
Which will cost money, I'd bet.
Step 3: PROFIT.


I can hand you a fly swatter and you can start killing all the mosquitoes. If you start now, you may be able to kill off enough to make a difference in a couple of hundred years.
 
2013-08-10 03:25:07 PM

Aquapope: rubi_con_man: Awesome. I look forward to competing with another billion people a year for work.

What kind of work do you do where 600,000 equals 1,000,000,000?


a world where a black person is worth 3/5's of a white person, so you multiply by the reciprocal to get the conversion:

600,000 * (5/3) = 1,000,000
 
2013-08-10 03:38:38 PM

Hyjamon: Aquapope: rubi_con_man: Awesome. I look forward to competing with another billion people a year for work.

What kind of work do you do where 600,000 equals 1,000,000,000?

a world where a black person is worth 3/5's of a white person, so you multiply by the reciprocal to get the conversion:

600,000 * (5/3) = 1,000,000


So he's a time-traveler?
 
2013-08-10 03:47:09 PM

give me doughnuts: Hyjamon: Aquapope: rubi_con_man: Awesome. I look forward to competing with another billion people a year for work.

What kind of work do you do where 600,000 equals 1,000,000,000?

a world where a black person is worth 3/5's of a white person, so you multiply by the reciprocal to get the conversion:

600,000 * (5/3) = 1,000,000

So he's a time-traveler?


I imagine Obama isn't using his time-machine while on vacation, so this guy must have been able to borrow it.
 
2013-08-10 04:02:04 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Aquapope: HotIgneous Intruder: More profitable to treat the disease than its cause, right?
Big Pharma: Always. Always turn a profit at the expense of public health.

A vaccination is treating the cause of a disease.  You knew that, right?

Vectors, how do they work?
Mosquitoes carry the malaria virus. Mosquitoes are the vector.
Letting the vector live is like telling people to stop washing their hands because we can treat their inevitable resultant sickness with a shot.
Which will cost money, I'd bet.
Step 3: PROFIT.


You know that part of the life cycle of malaria is within an infected human host, right?  So vaccinating people would be taking care of the vector.

Kind of like smallpox, which seems to not exist anymore.
 
2013-08-10 04:22:31 PM
At first I was like:

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But then I read the Fark comments and I was all:

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/Yes, sometimes I speak in memes
//No, I'm not proud.
 
2013-08-10 04:30:30 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: When did I ever say this? You spewed absolute craziness about people taking the same vaccine multiple times. I'm not even going to address the rest of your lunacy.


Thought you meant it would be stupid to take so many. Should have known i was reading too deeply into shallow waters. You just wanted to call me names, and boy, i don't think i've been this hurt since elementary school. You probably hear this alot, but you've got a really cutting wit.

Taking the same vaccines multiple times would be a good way to show just how harmless they are. Think of it as a way you can help those stupid people who dare to question vaccines. Although we already get 49 doses of 14 vaccines by age 6, and 69 doses of 16 vaccines by 18, so you'd be hard pressed to top that.

I look forward to a future where people fight for a newborn to get 10 thousand vaccines without even knowing what the vaccines are for and how they might be different from any other vaccine, because to them all vaccines are the same and none can be questioned. As if driven by some mysterious supernatural power, every vaccine ever has been equally perfect, with not even a slight deviation. In vaccines we have perhaps finally found the fabled Prima Materia Alchemists hunted for centuries. The incorruptible matter. Those of low breeding cannot possibly understand.

We must enforce science as a matter of faith, and viciously insult anyone who questions or doubts things. Questioning and doubting has always been anathema to science. Now go, noble crusaders. Smite those who would dare to question a single vaccine. In the name of god, er, science.
 
2013-08-10 04:34:55 PM
As a person who will fill two malarone prescriptions this year for travel to the subcontinent and SE Asia, I welcome the news.
 
2013-08-10 04:45:30 PM

legion_of_doo: I hear malaria vaccines caused human slavery in Africa.


My mom says there's a lot of black people in Africa.
 
2013-08-10 05:00:42 PM

Ego edo infantia cattus: /Yes, sometimes I speak in memes


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Ego edo infantia cattus, with LOLCATS and cheezburgers
 
2013-08-10 05:14:05 PM

simplicimus: Re; wiping out mosquitoes.
Have humans ever made one species of insects extinct? Ever?


Actually, yes, we have...unfortunately, they also tend to be either a) attractive and charismatic insects like butterflies that end up extinct (largely due to habitat loss) or b) insects that were parasites on other animals we drove into extinction. :P

Probably one of the most dramatic examples of an insect we literally drove to extinction via habitat destruction was the North American Locust (the only true locust in North America--or more properly, the only grasshopper species in North America that had a locust life-stage).  In thirty years, the species went from huge swarms that would literally make the Biblical swarms seem puny in comparison (as in "the swarms were probably the largest collections of animals in sheer numbers that have existed in any era"--at least one documented swarm in the early 1870s was speculated to have had 12.5 trillion, with a farking T, members and was larger than the size of California) to completely and utterly extinct by 1902 (when the last known specimen was collected in southern Canada); the reason we no longer have swarms of these critters so large as to terrify gods is...well...we pretty much plowed and irrigated the Great Plains under for a shiatload of wheat and corn, which tended to destroy their egg cases that they'd lay in the ground (they were heavily adapted for living in the Great Plains complete with its usual drought cycles--and thrived best in areas with less than 25 inches of rain yearly; the plowing and especially the irrigation permafarked their entire reproductive cycle).

So yes, insect extinctions happen.  Usually they tend to be quite ACCIDENTAL ones, but they do happen.

(And, note, this is just concerning the insect species we know about and have formally classified...and pretty much every serious entomologist and biologist will gleefully point out that the insect species we know about (much less those that have been formally classified to the point they have actual scientific names) are dwarfed in number by unclassified, unknown-at-present-to-science species.  And it's not just in tropical rainforests that there are a number of unclassified insects--they're actually finding new species of insects every year in the likes of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, which is only the most visited park in North America by humans.  One of the legit concerns of scientists is that we are actually losing thousands of insect species before they can even be documented or classified scientifically; insects (and arthropods in general) are not exactly sexy re "FINDING NEW SPECIES" in comparison to finding a new species of monkey or bird, and have gotten very little study (again, outside of charismatic species like butterflies) versus charismatic chordates.)

Now, in regards to deliberate extinctions of insects...we haven't done that YET, but we HAVE had success extirpating insects from entire continents before.  (The New World screwworm was extirpated from North America as well as a massive accidental introduction in Africa via the famous "screwfly solution"--sterile insect introduction that can be summed up as "Raise screwworms, find the male pupae and nuke them so that they aren't dead but to the point that their swimmers are about as viable as Rick Santorum's future porn career, and release these en masse in areas with screwworm infestations and watch the problem go away in a generation or two".  And the "screwfly solution" tends to work pretty quick--the program started in 1959, screwworms were eradicated from the US by 1966; the program started in Mexico in 1972 and screwworms were extinct in the wild in Mexico by 1991; the African accidental introduction was done in 1989, caused an epidemic of screwworm infestation by 1991, and was extirpated within months of an industrial-scale implementation of the "screwfly solution" thanks to the Nuked Screwworm Plant in Mexico that provides the nuked pupae for screwworm eradication efforts.)  We've actually used the "screwfly solution" with other insects accidentally introduced, as well--particularly Medfly infestations in California.

And they do have trials ongoing of the "screwfly solution" in Anopheles mosquitos (one of the major malaria vectors) as well as tsetse flies (why yes, most of the successes we've had with "screwfly solution" eradication ARE with flies--and fortunately, mosquitos ARE a type of fly).
 
2013-08-10 05:36:10 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Aquapope: HotIgneous Intruder: More profitable to treat the disease than its cause, right?
Big Pharma: Always. Always turn a profit at the expense of public health.

A vaccination is treating the cause of a disease.  You knew that, right?

Vectors, how do they work?
Mosquitoes carry the malaria virus. Mosquitoes are the vector.
Letting the vector live is like telling people to stop washing their hands because we can treat their inevitable resultant sickness with a shot.
Which will cost money, I'd bet.
Step 3: PROFIT.


What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Welcome to the ignore list, tard.
 
2013-08-10 05:48:06 PM
Great Porn Dragon: Very interesting response. Thanks.
Here in Texas (and other states, I imagine), we spray every summer to curtail mosquito borne West Nile Virus. While I yearn for the extinction of all mosquitos, I wonder what the effect on other species would be. Bats and Dragonflies come to mind, but there may be others.
 
2013-08-10 06:22:37 PM
So this means more Africans will live long enough to die from starvation? Not trying to be mean, but that place is unsustainably overpopulated.
 
2013-08-10 07:45:29 PM

simplicimus: Great Porn Dragon: Very interesting response. Thanks.
Here in Texas (and other states, I imagine), we spray every summer to curtail mosquito borne West Nile Virus. While I yearn for the extinction of all mosquitos, I wonder what the effect on other species would be. Bats and Dragonflies come to mind, but there may be others.


Honestly, that would be my worry with mosquito eradication efforts (as in "screwfly solution" Highly Effective Methods) too--there's such a diversity of wildlife that relies on mosquitos (not just dragonflies and bats, but a fair number of species of fish feed off mosquito maggots in the water) that one would have to be VERY careful to ensure a particular disease vector is restricted to just ONE species of mosquito AND hope that species isn't a keystone species. (There is rather less of an issue with this re screwworms.)

Interestingly, one of the issues they're running into (re the tsetse fly sterilisation) is that there are multiple species of tsetse fly that are vectors for African sleeping sickness, and they pretty much have to do batches for each species--and apparently the different species do tend to be a little problematic to tell apart...we'll see how that goes.  (Again, though, they don't quite have as many things feeding on them as, say, mosquitos do.)

I'd argue going the "malaria vax" route is good for us in two ways, in that it keeps us from getting sick when bitten AND it might just help keep from being bitten as often.  (One of the things that's been discovered re bloodborne illnesses transmitted by insect vectors is that the infections DO make the insects bite more often--either through direct effects or by blocking the intestinal tracts of insects.  Plague, infamously, blocks up the gastrointestinal tracts of human fleas causing them to bite more (and to regurgitate in wounds), Malaria does something similar AND infects salivary glands in mosquitos to boot.)

(And speaking of mosquito-borne illnesses...apparently there's some active work being done on a West Nile Virus vaccine.  Probably has not been the highest priority in past thanks to only a percentage of people who contract it actually getting WNV encephalitis, but now that there's an enzootic in the US with significant bleedover to humans...its close relative Japanese Encephalitis Virus does have a vaccine (and it's actually recommended for a lot of the same areas in Southeast Asia where malaria is resistant to ALL THE DRUGS), they're probably just wanting to make sure it's very safe before using it in humans because of stupid Jenny McCarthy "BABBY GOT AUTISM FROM THE JAB AND MY GERFICT GENES COULDN'T HAVE HAD A DAMN THING TO DO WITH IT" sorts.)

/and yes, before we note--vaccines don't cause autism; evidence points to scrambled eggs and swimmers (or more properly, the genes in eggs and swimmers that have to deal with cellular differentiation) that causes it in most cases, and a few cases where it's caused by--surprise, surprise!--mom contracting a vaccine preventable illness during the first or second trimester of pregnancy
//seeing as we're running out of farking drugs to treat malaria, a vaccine WOULD be nice
 
2013-08-10 09:05:43 PM

EliminateNinniesAndTwits: Fark shills keep the anti JM headlines coming regular intervals,
earning their pay


Please say you are trolling
 
2013-08-10 09:14:13 PM

Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: Great Porn Dragon: Very interesting response. Thanks.
Here in Texas (and other states, I imagine), we spray every summer to curtail mosquito borne West Nile Virus. While I yearn for the extinction of all mosquitos, I wonder what the effect on other species would be. Bats and Dragonflies come to mind, but there may be others.

Honestly, that would be my worry with mosquito eradication efforts (as in "screwfly solution" Highly Effective Methods) too--there's such a diversity of wildlife that relies on mosquitos (not just dragonflies and bats, but a fair number of species of fish feed off mosquito maggots in the water) that one would have to be VERY careful to ensure a particular disease vector is restricted to just ONE species of mosquito AND hope that species isn't a keystone species. (There is rather less of an issue with this re screwworms.)


On a different species, I have noticed that the fire ant population here around Houston has been drastically reduced. I don't know of any specific scientific effort involved, but there's been a marked change in the last 5 or 6 years. May be a result of the WNV spraying or something else.
 
2013-08-10 10:40:20 PM

simplicimus: Great Porn Dragon: simplicimus: Great Porn Dragon: Very interesting response. Thanks.
Here in Texas (and other states, I imagine), we spray every summer to curtail mosquito borne West Nile Virus. While I yearn for the extinction of all mosquitos, I wonder what the effect on other species would be. Bats and Dragonflies come to mind, but there may be others.

Honestly, that would be my worry with mosquito eradication efforts (as in "screwfly solution" Highly Effective Methods) too--there's such a diversity of wildlife that relies on mosquitos (not just dragonflies and bats, but a fair number of species of fish feed off mosquito maggots in the water) that one would have to be VERY careful to ensure a particular disease vector is restricted to just ONE species of mosquito AND hope that species isn't a keystone species. (There is rather less of an issue with this re screwworms.)

On a different species, I have noticed that the fire ant population here around Houston has been drastically reduced. I don't know of any specific scientific effort involved, but there's been a marked change in the last 5 or 6 years. May be a result of the WNV spraying or something else.


Actually, there HAS been a reduction in fire ant populations in Texas specifically (this is good)...unfortunately, it's specifically because another invasive ant has come in (this is bad)--the tawny crazy ant, native to Argentina and Brazil, which also tends to be rather incredibly invasive in homes and ALSO tends to kill off the native ants...oh, and is also unattracted to the usual avermectin-containing ant baits, trends STRONGLY to multiqueen colonies, and is resistant to pretty much all the usual insecticides used against ants (this is almost "we'd rather have the multiqueen fire ant colonies" bad, seeing as crazy ants have a BAD tendency to get into things people like such as electronics).  And yes, Houston is actually the area where introduced tawny crazy ants were first discovered--not shocking at all that the fire ant populations have crashed, as the crazy ants pretty much have taken over in Houston as the Major Ant Pest Issue.

(In fact, the tawny crazy ant was formerly known colloquially as the Rasberry crazy ant--after the particular exterminator who found homes infested with them in Houston back in 2002.  Most documentation in Texas still has them listed as the Rasberry crazy ant, so most of the info via county extensions and the like would still list that name and not the actual "official" name of tawny crazy ant.  And yes, this is one of those examples of "new species we're finding even in places where people live"--it gained the official name of "tawny crazy ant" when it was found to be a new species of ant...discovered out of the things setting up ant colonies in electrical boxes (yes, really) and killing off the fire ant population.)

And they reason they're called "crazy ants" is that they tend to move around erratically (imagine drunk ants and you get an idea)...otherwise, they're pretty much piss-ants from hell.
 
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2013-08-10 10:45:17 PM
Why is this good news? There's too many farkin' people.
 
2013-08-10 11:14:08 PM

Great Porn Dragon: And they reason they're called "crazy ants" is that they tend to move around erratically (imagine drunk ants and you get an idea)...otherwise, they're pretty much piss-ants from hell.


Are they as aggressive and painful as fire ants, or just an annoyance?
 
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