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(KHOU Houston)   I'm just glad that I'm an American in a country where (I can tase co-workers and record it and post the videos online) the justice system works (for people that are married to a Texas state representative...)   (khou.com) divider line 53
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2013-08-09 02:09:13 PM
When I first read this story a few days ago it was on a questionable news site and thought it must be satire. It is Texas and even if the guy lacked the ability to get a real firearm and dropped the second person that attempted to taze him causing him to fear for his life and wellbeing, there is always beanbag guns that could cause a laugh for all when he hit whoever tazed him in the groin or head a few times.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-08-09 02:25:42 PM
I know it's Texas, but that would be assault in most states.
 
2013-08-09 02:44:53 PM
Second video clip... looks like a police officer walks by and just watches.
 
2013-08-09 04:41:30 PM
That will be settled and they will hope that OSHA does not get a hold of it.
 
2013-08-09 04:55:16 PM
I'm just glad that I'm a Canadian in a country where (I can smack co-workers with seal blubber and record it and post the videos online) the justice system works (for people that are married to gay lumberjacks...)
 
2013-08-09 05:13:56 PM

vpb: I know it's Texas, but that would be assault in most states.


Assault with a deadly weapon, honestly. Tasers fall under the same category as pulling a knife on someone for legal purposes.

/LESS THAN LETHAL, not non-lethal.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-08-09 06:08:01 PM

hardinparamedic: vpb: I know it's Texas, but that would be assault in most states.

Assault with a deadly weapon, honestly. Tasers fall under the same category as pulling a knife on someone for legal purposes.


I could see how they would be.  I knew a guy who killed someone in a fist fight.  Not really intentional, but if you hit someone in the throat just right then I guess it's enough.
 
2013-08-09 06:09:00 PM
Used car dealers never get an honest shake in Texas.
 
2013-08-09 06:09:44 PM
images.wikia.com

What?
 
2013-08-09 06:10:26 PM
Don't taze me Joe, don't taze me!
 
2013-08-09 06:11:51 PM
He should have posted videos of him hit the tase happy guy with a baseball bat
 
2013-08-09 06:13:49 PM
Zzzzzzaaaap, zzzzzzaaaap.

i1.ytimg.com

Seriously, how do you not body-slam the farker doing this?
 
2013-08-09 06:14:17 PM
stoopid socialist libtards jealous of wholesome conservative job creators...
 
2013-08-09 06:14:55 PM
Nine months?  It took you way to long to address the issue.
Stun gun?  It's an attack, react accordingly, defend then file charges.
 
2013-08-09 06:15:34 PM
Bullies suck and they deserve whatever they get. On the other hand he's a car salesman so fark him.
 
2013-08-09 06:17:08 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: Zzzzzzaaaap, zzzzzzaaaap.



Seriously, how do you not body-slam the farker doing this?


That's my thought as well, knock me down, let the taze guy walk away then grab him to throw him through their front window.
 
2013-08-09 06:17:28 PM

gopher321: I'm just glad that I'm a Canadian in a country where (I can smack co-workers with seal blubber and record it and post the videos online) the justice system works (for people that are married to gay lumberjacks...)


I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like links to the co-worker, seal blubber smacking vids

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-08-09 06:20:32 PM
I think after the first time somebody would have had their head caved in with a crowbar.
 
2013-08-09 06:20:46 PM
Lord knows I've played some pranks and stuff on coworkers, but thats pretty farked up.
 
2013-08-09 06:20:54 PM
"Are you sure he just didn't like it?" - Dubai police
 
2013-08-09 06:21:55 PM

basemetal: That will be settled and they will hope that OSHA does not get a hold of it.


What? Oh my god your serious, this is in Texas dude.  OSHA doesnt show its head around here if it wants to live.  Texas has the highest workplace accidents on construction sites in the farking nation and its only getting worse.

from the article: Harless is married to State Rep. Patricia Harless, who co-owns the dealership and is also named in the lawsuit.

This guy needs to get in his car and drive north, keep driving until he is out of the state and then go to either the east or west coast while still driving north.  If he starts now, he might be able to avoid prison, or death.  He is sooo farked if he stays here.  His family too.  Not a joke, reality.
 
2013-08-09 06:22:25 PM
What are the odds that the owner thinks this is all harmless fun, and that the four-eyed little nancyboy should just man up and stop whining about being shocked repeatedly?

farking sociopath.
 
2013-08-09 06:22:53 PM
also, I would like to add that Mr Harless appears to be a douche of epic proportions... wouldn't mind if he and his 'state representative' wife end up like the Amy's Baking Company douches...
 
2013-08-09 06:23:14 PM
I just came home from work today because a co-worker got in my face screaming and yelling at me and threatening to do physical violence. I don't care how bad you need the money you leave.

I am not in a position where I can lose my job, but in my case my boss is backing me up. If he hadn't I would have pressed charges for unsafe work environment.

The car dealer needs to be taken to court.
The guy getting tasered needs to get a spine.

Work is not your identity no matter how much the corps try and shove it down your throat. You should never have to accept abuse in the work place, verbal or physical.
 
2013-08-09 06:24:07 PM
I would hope I'd have the composure, under similar circumstances, to sue the crap out of everyone involved rather than doing something more drastic in the heat of the moment.  If I were on the jury, just based on the video, I'd give him every cent he asked for.  I hope he gets enough to retire out of this.
 
2013-08-09 06:28:55 PM
Jones said his boss, Sam Harless, provided the stun gun and also held the camera many times. The videos were posted on YouTube, but have been taken off.

Good to see that teens aren't the only ones who can post self-incriminating videos online.
 
2013-08-09 06:30:29 PM

JasonOfOrillia: Jones said his boss, Sam Harless, provided the stun gun and also held the camera many times. The videos were posted on YouTube, but have been taken off.

Good to see that teens aren't the only ones who can post self-incriminating videos online.


I hope he made copies.
 
2013-08-09 06:34:01 PM
and apparently Mr Harless had his eyes on a senate seat earlier this year (his wife's maiden name was Fincher... apparently daughter of Fred... namesake of the auto dealership).


Sam Harless surprised supporters  - and even his wife - when he announced Thursday he was withdrawing from the race for Senate District 7 only a couple weeks after saying he would run.

Harless said he canceled his campaign to spare his family and supporters from wasting time on a seven-month primary battle he argues party leadership have sealed prematurely.
 http://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2013/07/harless-withdraws-from- sen ate-race-blames-party-leaders/

"It's not the first time they've endorsed someone in the primary, but its the first time within 24 hours," said Harless, who is general manager of Fred Fincher Motors and the husband of Rep. Patricia Harless. "When you do that, you're discouraging new blood from coming in," he said.  Then he went back to recording the tasing of one of his employees so he could post it on youtube.
 
2013-08-09 06:47:55 PM
Video proof of systematic torturing. Harris County juries love to hand out money to a sympathetic individual.
 
2013-08-09 06:49:58 PM
I'm not going to post any links or email addresses or anything but you know the dealership and the Representative have web sites and they have pages where one might leave a comment if they had anything to say to either of them.
 
2013-08-09 06:56:35 PM
During training, cops are tapered so that they understand the pain the inflict. Why didn't Harless go through that?
 
2013-08-09 06:58:25 PM
C-4 doorbell.
 
2013-08-09 07:04:36 PM
What about all the videos online showing Brad Jones (the frivolous lawsuit filer) tasing his co-workers.

It appears that this car dealership maintaine a juvenile work environment where this was part of the horseplay. When there is plenty of evidence that he did also this to others then he has a weak case for compensation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0P-1B8hUA0&feature=plcp&nomobile=1
 
2013-08-09 07:09:35 PM
I could see trying to be a good sport about that after the first time. After the second, though, I'd buy a proper tazer (the ones that actually shoot darts on wires) and I'd walk into my boss's office and taze the bastard. I'd keep the current running for a while saying "You're right; this is pretty funny. Hey everyone, come in here and check this out! No rush; take your time."
 
2013-08-09 07:19:32 PM
This is Texas -- why didn't the guy just shoot the people tasering him?
 
2013-08-09 07:22:54 PM
Just looking at the defendants I can tell they're a-holes and guilty.

/10+ jury duty summons', never been picked
 
2013-08-09 07:30:20 PM

gblive: What about all the videos online showing Brad Jones (the frivolous lawsuit filer) tasing his co-workers.

It appears that this car dealership maintaine a juvenile work environment where this was part of the horseplay. When there is plenty of evidence that he did also this to others then he has a weak case for compensation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0P-1B8hUA0&feature=plcp&nomobile=1


Because those bullied never do what they are told to keep their jobs or faces intact. He might have done it simply to be one of the guys. Kinda like gay boy scouts, they know they are being bullied but have to take the abuse if they want to maintain something important to them.

Even if the guy filing the lawsuit did engage in this behaviour at work, once he asked it to stop, it should have stopped. No means no.
 
2013-08-09 07:44:35 PM

gblive: What about all the videos online showing Brad Jones (the frivolous lawsuit filer) tasing his co-workers.

It appears that this car dealership maintaine a juvenile work environment where this was part of the horseplay. When there is plenty of evidence that he did also this to others then he has a weak case for compensation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0P-1B8hUA0&feature=plcp&nomobile=1


Yeah...that is exactly what I was thinking...'dude was likely an active participant in the horse play'. there is no mention as to why he doesnt work there anymore, likely dismissed for some other action, sues for said horse play.

Plaintiff will still win (even though he willfully engaged in the activity) as he will argue, "I felt like I had to engage in such activities". Will not recieve big bucks though, as his willfully participation will certainly dimish his "pain and suffering".

Solid reporting if there are videos (i didnt click the link) of him doing the exact thing he is complaining about..."so mr. Plaintiff...you are filling a lawsuit because of being tazed at work, but how do you explain the videos where you are doing the exact same things to others?"
 
2013-08-09 07:44:39 PM

thiefofdreams: I just came home from work today because a co-worker got in my face screaming and yelling at me and threatening to do physical violence.


What instigated this? Reheating fish in the microwave? Seriously curious.
 
2013-08-09 07:52:06 PM
What dicks. Had I been the one getting tasered, I might have "accidentally" resorted to some of those tricks I've always wanted to try in the George Hayduke books....
 
2013-08-09 07:54:20 PM

thiefofdreams: gblive: What about all the videos online showing Brad Jones (the frivolous lawsuit filer) tasing his co-workers.

It appears that this car dealership maintaine a juvenile work environment where this was part of the horseplay. When there is plenty of evidence that he did also this to others then he has a weak case for compensation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0P-1B8hUA0&feature=plcp&nomobile=1

Because those bullied never do what they are told to keep their jobs or faces intact. He might have done it simply to be one of the guys. Kinda like gay boy scouts, they know they are being bullied but have to take the abuse if they want to maintain something important to them.

Even if the guy filing the lawsuit did engage in this behaviour at work, once he asked it to stop, it should have stopped. No means no.


Sure "no means no", but participating in said actions can also be construed as consent.

What proof other that his "I didn't like it" do we have that he actively tried to stop it from happening? Article doesn't mention him ever telling them to stop, contacting HR, or calling the cops for that matter.

It is All fun and games until someone is let go, then it becomes a hostile work environment. Not saying those are the facts...but this soft ball article with direct quotes from the plaintiff about looking behind shower curtains...not one comment about "I asked them to stop and my requests were denied"....just saying.
 
2013-08-09 07:56:37 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: thiefofdreams: I just came home from work today because a co-worker got in my face screaming and yelling at me and threatening to do physical violence.

What instigated this? Reheating fish in the microwave? Seriously curious.


Honestly, I don't know. We were talking about lunch. I joked that we should order food. The co-worker said there was no way the boss was going to buy lunch. I said, well I have talked him into it in the past, don't be so negative.

I walked away to my part of our shop, he kept going, I turned my back and said something like "lets just stop biatching about it." He threw down what he had in his hands, stormed across the shop and got in my face. He was almost nose to nose yelling at me that if I didn't like I should leave. I left work. I won't be screamed or yelled at especially by someone that is not my boss and I won't lower myself to his level of wannabe-bullying. The aggressive manner he came at me with is still in my head and I am still trying to figure out how something like this happens.

We say shiat way worse than, "lets stop biatching about it." on a daily. We are always joking around as we work in a high stress shop. Maybe he just finally had a breakdown. I don't honestly know.
 
2013-08-09 07:59:02 PM
To be clear, I am not for hostile work environments, I am just against people willing participating in inappropriate activities and then crying about said inappropriate activities after the fact.
 
2013-08-09 08:00:48 PM

WhyKnot: thiefofdreams: gblive: What about all the videos online showing Brad Jones (the frivolous lawsuit filer) tasing his co-workers.

It appears that this car dealership maintaine a juvenile work environment where this was part of the horseplay. When there is plenty of evidence that he did also this to others then he has a weak case for compensation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0P-1B8hUA0&feature=plcp&nomobile=1

Because those bullied never do what they are told to keep their jobs or faces intact. He might have done it simply to be one of the guys. Kinda like gay boy scouts, they know they are being bullied but have to take the abuse if they want to maintain something important to them.

Even if the guy filing the lawsuit did engage in this behaviour at work, once he asked it to stop, it should have stopped. No means no.

Sure "no means no", but participating in said actions can also be construed as consent.

What proof other that his "I didn't like it" do we have that he actively tried to stop it from happening? Article doesn't mention him ever telling them to stop, contacting HR, or calling the cops for that matter.

It is All fun and games until someone is let go, then it becomes a hostile work environment. Not saying those are the facts...but this soft ball article with direct quotes from the plaintiff about looking behind shower curtains...not one comment about "I asked them to stop and my requests were denied"....just saying.


I agree there is more to this story than what was written in the story.

That is why I said both need to get their shiat together. I just find it funny how some on here are defending a boss that brought a device to work to cause pain to workers and that is okay. The boss even encouraged and directed people to tase one another.

Suing for being tased even once at work should not be met with, "Why are you suing?!?!" It should be met with, "What the hell was your boss doing letting people taser each other at work." If nothing else this is promoting an unsafe work environment.
 
2013-08-09 08:05:50 PM

thiefofdreams: WhyKnot: thiefofdreams: gblive: What about all the videos online showing Brad Jones (the frivolous lawsuit filer) tasing his co-workers.

It appears that this car dealership maintaine a juvenile work environment where this was part of the horseplay. When there is plenty of evidence that he did also this to others then he has a weak case for compensation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0P-1B8hUA0&feature=plcp&nomobile=1

Because those bullied never do what they are told to keep their jobs or faces intact. He might have done it simply to be one of the guys. Kinda like gay boy scouts, they know they are being bullied but have to take the abuse if they want to maintain something important to them.

Even if the guy filing the lawsuit did engage in this behaviour at work, once he asked it to stop, it should have stopped. No means no.

Sure "no means no", but participating in said actions can also be construed as consent.

What proof other that his "I didn't like it" do we have that he actively tried to stop it from happening? Article doesn't mention him ever telling them to stop, contacting HR, or calling the cops for that matter.

It is All fun and games until someone is let go, then it becomes a hostile work environment. Not saying those are the facts...but this soft ball article with direct quotes from the plaintiff about looking behind shower curtains...not one comment about "I asked them to stop and my requests were denied"....just saying.

I agree there is more to this story than what was written in the story.

That is why I said both need to get their shiat together. I just find it funny how some on here are defending a boss that brought a device to work to cause pain to workers and that is okay. The boss even encouraged and directed people to tase one another.

Suing for being tased even once at work should not be met with, "Why are you suing?!?!" It should be met with, "What the hell was your boss doing letting people taser each other at work." If nothing else this is promoting an unsafe work environment.


Oh I totally agree...that is why even if Mr. Plaintiff was an active participant is said shinanigans he will still win...the courts will still look to management and go "dafuq?!!?" That being said, if the can prove he was an activity participant his damages will be greatly reduced (which they should be).
 
2013-08-09 08:10:28 PM

WhyKnot: Oh I totally agree...that is why even if Mr. Plaintiff was an active participant is said shinanigans he will still win...the courts will still look to management and go "dafuq?!!?" That being said, if the can prove he was an activity participant his damages will be greatly reduced (which they should be).


Exactly. If they can prove he took part in it he will get far less money, and honestly I agree with that as well. I do however think that there should be an investigation into the car dealership and it's management.
 
2013-08-09 08:12:44 PM

thiefofdreams: WhyKnot: Oh I totally agree...that is why even if Mr. Plaintiff was an active participant is said shinanigans he will still win...the courts will still look to management and go "dafuq?!!?" That being said, if the can prove he was an activity participant his damages will be greatly reduced (which they should be).

Exactly. If they can prove he took part in it he will get far less money, and honestly I agree with that as well. I do however think that there should be an investigation into the car dealership and it's management.


*Internet high five*
 
2013-08-09 08:21:14 PM

thiefofdreams: thisisyourbrainonFark: thiefofdreams: I just came home from work today because a co-worker got in my face screaming and yelling at me and threatening to do physical violence.

What instigated this? Reheating fish in the microwave? Seriously curious.

Honestly, I don't know. We were talking about lunch. I joked that we should order food. The co-worker said there was no way the boss was going to buy lunch. I said, well I have talked him into it in the past, don't be so negative.

I walked away to my part of our shop, he kept going, I turned my back and said something like "lets just stop biatching about it." He threw down what he had in his hands, stormed across the shop and got in my face. He was almost nose to nose yelling at me that if I didn't like I should leave. I left work. I won't be screamed or yelled at especially by someone that is not my boss and I won't lower myself to his level of wannabe-bullying. The aggressive manner he came at me with is still in my head and I am still trying to figure out how something like this happens.

We say shiat way worse than, "lets stop biatching about it." on a daily. We are always joking around as we work in a high stress shop. Maybe he just finally had a breakdown. I don't honestly know.


My guess is that he didn't hear the "lets" and assumed you were 'telling him to stop biatching'...thus effectively calling him a biatch.
 
2013-08-09 10:10:30 PM

thiefofdreams: I just came home from work today because a co-worker got in my face screaming and yelling at me and threatening to do physical violence. I don't care how bad you need the money you leave.

I am not in a position where I can lose my job, but in my case my boss is backing me up. If he hadn't I would have pressed charges for unsafe work environment.

The car dealer needs to be taken to court.
The guy getting tasered needs to get a spine.

Work is not your identity no matter how much the corps try and shove it down your throat. You should never have to accept abuse in the work place, verbal or physical.


THIS ( to every point you have made here)

I guess I'm lucky never to have worked in that sort of environment. ( the one sociopathic d-bag at my job that "might" try something is outnumbered 40 to 1, and he's smart enough to know it....the parking garage beatdown would be epic.)
 
2013-08-09 10:27:26 PM

WhyKnot: To be clear, I am not for hostile work environments, I am just against people willing participating in inappropriate activities and then crying about said inappropriate activities after the fact.


Agreed. But if you're the "new hire," some places expect you to put up with a certain amount of hazing. Otherwise, you're a whiner and a little b*tch. Which doesn't not by any stretch of the imagination make jackass behavior appropriate.

What's going on in this story is assault -- instigated and condoned by the dealership's owner. I hope Tasered Guy owns the dealership when it's all said and done.
 
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