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(The Atlantic)   The rise and fall of Katherine Hepburn's fake accent   (theatlantic.com ) divider line
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2013-08-09 05:02:30 PM  
The original Lindsay Lohan that one. Notorious man-stealing skank back in her time.
 
2013-08-09 05:11:27 PM  
Wasn't the Transatlantic accent invented anyway? Who cares if she didn't always use it.
 
2013-08-09 05:17:16 PM  
Bergman?
 
2013-08-09 05:17:38 PM  
classiq.me

"Oh, we're going to talk about me, are we? Goody."

/love her
/pretty sure Grant's accent wasn't authentic either
 
2013-08-09 05:20:08 PM  

Bslim: The original Lindsay Lohan that one. Notorious man-stealing skank back in her time.


I never found her attractive.  I bet she f*cked liked a mink though, why else put up with her?
 
2013-08-09 05:28:12 PM  
Bullshiat.  Next you'll be telling me Keanu Reeves' English accent in Dracula was fake, too. Not buyin it.
 
2013-08-09 05:28:34 PM  
FTA: Silent movie star Gloria Swanson once notoriously quipped: "We didn't need dialogue. We had faces."

Well, not exactly. That was Norma Desmond, played by Gloria Swanson. I don't think Gloria Swanson herself swooned around saying things like that.
 
2013-08-09 05:30:05 PM  

gnosis301: Bullshiat.  Next you'll be telling me Keanu Reeves' English accent in Dracula was fake, too. Not buyin it.


This is different though. The article is talking about an accent that never existed in the natural world. Oh wait. Nevermind, you are correct.
 
2013-08-09 05:31:23 PM  

someonelse: [classiq.me image 585x445]

"Oh, we're going to talk about me, are we? Goody."

/love her
/pretty sure Grant's accent wasn't authentic either


Great movie. Now I want to watch "Bringing Up Baby" as well.
 
2013-08-09 05:42:14 PM  

Psycoholic_Slag: Bslim: The original Lindsay Lohan that one. Notorious man-stealing skank back in her time.

I never found her attractive.  I bet she f*cked liked a mink though, why else put up with her?


Mink?
 
2013-08-09 05:42:53 PM  
Jennifer Jason Leigh does a spot-on version of that 30s-40s movie accent in the Hudsucker Proxy and Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle.
 
2013-08-09 05:43:51 PM  
Katherine Hepburn and her family is what some politicians picture when they rail against "East Coast Elites".

My favorite scene in the Aviator is when Howard Hughes eats dinner with them and calls them out on their bs.
 
2013-08-09 06:08:15 PM  

someonelse: /pretty sure Grant's accent wasn't authentic either


"Nobody talks like that!"
prettycleverfilms.com
 
2013-08-09 06:31:23 PM  
I prefer full-bodied, voluptuous women, but damned if there isn't something so sexy about young Katherine Hepburn, skinny and flat-chested as she was.
 
2013-08-09 06:35:33 PM  

czetie: someonelse: /pretty sure Grant's accent wasn't authentic either

"Nobody talks like that!"


Good one.

While we're at it, Monroe's breathless baby voice does not exist in nature either.
 
2013-08-09 06:42:40 PM  

Sgt Oddball: someonelse: [classiq.me image 585x445]

"Oh, we're going to talk about me, are we? Goody."

/love her
/pretty sure Grant's accent wasn't authentic either

Great movie. Now I want to watch "Bringing Up Baby" as well.


Bringing up Baby still might be the best dialogue in any film in terms of the combo of both writing, pacing and delivery. Hawks direction and the way the dialog spilled into itself was perfect.
 
2013-08-09 06:56:47 PM  

Rocket To Russia: I prefer full-bodied, voluptuous women, but damned if there isn't something so sexy about young Katherine Hepburn, skinny and flat-chested as she was.


Are you thinking of Audrey?  I think you're thinking of Audrey.

But Katherine Hepburn's accent was hardly any more contrived than Arianna Huffington's.  Which is to say, completely.
 
2013-08-09 07:05:46 PM  
Kate's accent was about as original as Julie Andrews and Dick Van Dyke.

/BTW Mary Poppins is a witch

//C Deville told me at Disney
 
2013-08-09 07:08:11 PM  

Bslim: The original Lindsay Lohan that one. Notorious man-stealing skank back in her time.


1/10
 
2013-08-09 07:08:31 PM  

someonelse: FTA: Silent movie star Gloria Swanson once notoriously quipped: "We didn't need dialogue. We had faces."

Well, not exactly. That was Norma Desmond, played by Gloria Swanson. I don't think Gloria Swanson herself swooned around saying things like that.


Here's a non-close-up shot.

www.corbisimages.com

Cecil B. DeMille is the one standing to the right of the guy looking back at the camera. The doctor is trying to bring DeMille's dead grand-son back to life. The first son of Anthony Quinn, the boy had wandered over to play with a collection of model sailboats in W.C. Fields' pond. The kid leaned over too far to reach a boat, fell in and drowned. It pretty much killed W.C. Fields, too.
 
2013-08-09 07:25:00 PM  
I always thought it was funny that Hollywood started off the sound era with a faux-British accent, only to later do a 180 and make the California accent mainstream around the world.
 
2013-08-09 07:26:30 PM  
media.comicbookmovie.com
Pish Tosh.
 
2013-08-09 07:27:23 PM  

Yes please: Rocket To Russia: I prefer full-bodied, voluptuous women, but damned if there isn't something so sexy about young Katherine Hepburn, skinny and flat-chested as she was.

Are you thinking of Audrey?  I think you're thinking of Audrey.

But Katherine Hepburn's accent was hardly any more contrived than Arianna Huffington's.  Which is to say, completely.


Nope. Katherine. Audrey acted like an adult baby. Katherine is the original strong-willed, smart woman who didn't take any guff.
 
2013-08-09 07:42:55 PM  
KATHARINE

KATHARINE

KATHARINE



Not one post in this thread, nay even the headline, spelled her name correctly. Even the laudatory ones.
 
2013-08-09 08:04:26 PM  

Bslim: The original Lindsay Lohan that one. Notorious man-stealing skank back in her time.


She didn't show up to the funeral out of respect for the wife.  She had class, dammit

also you shut your whore mouth!!!
 
2013-08-09 08:38:37 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: someonelse: FTA: Silent movie star Gloria Swanson once notoriously quipped: "We didn't need dialogue. We had faces."

Well, not exactly. That was Norma Desmond, played by Gloria Swanson. I don't think Gloria Swanson herself swooned around saying things like that.

Here's a non-close-up shot.

Cecil B. DeMille is the one standing to the right of the guy looking back at the camera. The doctor is trying to bring DeMille's dead grand-son back to life. The first son of Anthony Quinn, the boy had wandered over to play with a collection of model sailboats in W.C. Fields' pond. The kid leaned over too far to reach a boat, fell in and drowned. It pretty much killed W.C. Fields, too.


Mind if I ask where you got that pic? I love old Hollywood scandals way more than any straight man should.

I'm also somewhat surprised nobody burned the negatives, willingly or not.
 
2013-08-09 09:30:45 PM  

White_Scarf_Syndrome: Bslim: The original Lindsay Lohan that one. Notorious man-stealing skank back in her time.

She didn't show up to the funeral out of respect for the wife.  She had class, dammit

also you shut your whore mouth!!!


Also the 'wife' hadn't really been a wife for over 20 years, Tracy just hadn't divorced her because she was a devout Catholic who was also heavily involved in Catholic charities and the church. Katherine Hepburn was really his partner, and they lived together up until his death.

/
 
2013-08-09 09:31:40 PM  
The author fails in the first paragraph. Whatever Ingrid Bergman's accent is in Casablanca, it's not mid-Atlantic. She's Swedish, and the character she's playing is Norwegian.
 
2013-08-09 09:40:30 PM  
someonelse:
/pretty sure Grant's accent wasn't authentic either

You know how I know you didn't read TFA?
 
2013-08-09 09:45:06 PM  
i44.tinypic.com 

"I'd bet my Pulitizer on it"
 
2013-08-09 09:49:24 PM  

dalbuc: Sgt Oddball: someonelse: [classiq.me image 585x445]

"Oh, we're going to talk about me, are we? Goody."

/love her
/pretty sure Grant's accent wasn't authentic either

Great movie. Now I want to watch "Bringing Up Baby" as well.

Bringing up Baby still might be the best dialogue in any film in terms of the combo of both writing, pacing and delivery. Hawks direction and the way the dialog spilled into itself was perfect.


Here's a pip!
 
2013-08-09 09:52:15 PM  

Sgt Oddball: dalbuc: Sgt Oddball: someonelse: [classiq.me image 585x445]

"Oh, we're going to talk about me, are we? Goody."

/love her
/pretty sure Grant's accent wasn't authentic either

Great movie. Now I want to watch "Bringing Up Baby" as well.

Bringing up Baby still might be the best dialogue in any film in terms of the combo of both writing, pacing and delivery. Hawks direction and the way the dialog spilled into itself was perfect.

Here's a pip!


Philadelphia Story was also pretty damned good. :)
 
2013-08-09 10:34:41 PM  
hookedonhouses.net.

My favorite Hepburn pic.
 
2013-08-09 10:40:45 PM  

puckrock2000: someonelse:
/pretty sure Grant's accent wasn't authentic either

You know how I know you didn't read TFA?


I posted before reading it.
 
2013-08-09 11:06:44 PM  
I always wondered where George Plimpton learned to speak like that.
 
2013-08-10 01:11:16 AM  
Jonathan Harris was probably the last practitioner of the Mid Atlantic accent. He used it from day one to the end of his life. His natural speaking voice was a thick Bronx accent. Imagine Doctor Smith sounding like that.
 
2013-08-10 01:12:41 AM  
Does this mean I can now punch Captain Janeway in the face and not feel bad about it?
 
2013-08-10 01:31:21 AM  

Delawheredad: Jonathan Harris was probably the last practitioner of the Mid Atlantic accent. He used it from day one to the end of his life. His natural speaking voice was a thick Bronx accent. Imagine Doctor Smith sounding like that.


Oh, that's rich. Did he ever appear using his original accent? I'd love to hear that.
 
2013-08-10 01:44:50 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Delawheredad: Jonathan Harris was probably the last practitioner of the Mid Atlantic accent. He used it from day one to the end of his life. His natural speaking voice was a thick Bronx accent. Imagine Doctor Smith sounding like that.

Oh, that's rich. Did he ever appear using his original accent? I'd love to hear that.


Didn't he do an evil twin sort of bit with that kind of accent on Lost in Space?
 
2013-08-10 01:53:31 AM  

MrLint: Does this mean I can now punch Captain Janeway in the face and not feel bad about it?


This was always permitted.  And encouraged.
 
2013-08-10 04:29:10 AM  

bingethinker: The author fails in the first paragraph. Whatever Ingrid Bergman's accent is in Casablanca, it's not mid-Atlantic. She's Swedish, and the character she's playing is Norwegian.


Came here to say pretty much that.
 
2013-08-10 05:25:23 AM  

gadian: MrLint: Does this mean I can now punch Captain Janeway in the face and not feel bad about it?

This was always permitted.  And encouraged.


Janeway, maybe. But I'd be damn careful what you do to her character on "Orange Is the New Black."

i.imgur.com

She's fan-farking-tastic in this role.
 
2013-08-10 06:30:47 AM  
Lion in Winter. That is all.
 
2013-08-10 08:59:23 AM  
Who cares? He was a prolific actor before the operation and one of the most beautiful actresses after.
 
2013-08-10 09:12:37 AM  

someonelse: FTA: Silent movie star Gloria Swanson once notoriously quipped: "We didn't need dialogue. We had faces."

Well, not exactly. That was Norma Desmond, played by Gloria Swanson. I don't think Gloria Swanson herself swooned around saying things like that.


Good call.
 
2013-08-10 10:48:44 AM  

catzies: KATHARINE

KATHARINE

KATHARINE


Not one post in this thread, nay even the headline, spelled her name correctly. Even the laudatory ones.


Are you proud of yourself now? Good, here's a cookie.
 
2013-08-10 11:38:57 AM  

bass555: Lion in Winter. That is all.


"I'd hang you from the nipples, but you'd shock the children."
 
2013-08-10 01:28:11 PM  

unfarkingbelievable: catzies: KATHARINE

KATHARINE

KATHARINE


Not one post in this thread, nay even the headline, spelled her name correctly. Even the laudatory ones.

Are you proud of yourself now? Good, here's a cookie.


Thanks! I love cookies.

And yes indeed, "Lion In Winter. That is all."

Best "Dark Christmas" movie ever.

"How dear of you to let me out of jail."
"It's only for the holidays."
 
2013-08-10 03:18:57 PM  

MFAWG: TheShavingofOccam123: someonelse: FTA: Silent movie star Gloria Swanson once notoriously quipped: "We didn't need dialogue. We had faces."

Well, not exactly. That was Norma Desmond, played by Gloria Swanson. I don't think Gloria Swanson herself swooned around saying things like that.

Here's a non-close-up shot.

Cecil B. DeMille is the one standing to the right of the guy looking back at the camera. The doctor is trying to bring DeMille's dead grand-son back to life. The first son of Anthony Quinn, the boy had wandered over to play with a collection of model sailboats in W.C. Fields' pond. The kid leaned over too far to reach a boat, fell in and drowned. It pretty much killed W.C. Fields, too.

Mind if I ask where you got that pic? I love old Hollywood scandals way more than any straight man should.

I'm also somewhat surprised nobody burned the negatives, willingly or not.


It's owned by Corbis but here's a link to the original LA times article...plus some other juicy tidbits from that day's paper...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedailymirror/2011/03/jimmie-fidler -i n-hollywood-march-16-1941.html
 
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