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(BBC)   England have the urn - can they win the series outright? It's your Ashes fourth test, first day thread   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 57
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2013-08-09 07:52:33 AM  
So, after all the whining about tape and cheating the system, the first wicket Australia get is ... a caught behind confirmed with Hot-Spot. Wonder what the odds were on that?
 
2013-08-09 07:56:11 AM  
I'm going to be offline for most of today, and all of days 2 and 3.  Hope it's a good game and England come out on top.
 
2013-08-09 08:02:16 AM  
Lunch.  England 57/1.  Better start than the previous matches, I think.  Lots of dot balls but safer, smarter play from the England batsmen.
 
2013-08-09 08:36:58 AM  
They have the urn?  Are they trying to provoke The Undertaker?  Are they nuts?
 
2013-08-09 08:38:37 AM  
I like coming into the cricket threads because I am not convinced you people are not just making up these words to fark with the non cricket world. If you are, maximum trolling achieved, you guys win.
 
2013-08-09 08:42:10 AM  
England has clearly had the best of that first session. They haven't scored that much, but at 1 wicket down they're on top.

Clarke seemed almost reluctant to use Siddle for some reason I can't quite fathom.

I also really like the way that these cricket threads are never greenlit before the lunch break, a third of the way through the day's play. It's much like the way that the Fark mods routinely ignore the first period of an ice hockey match, and the first three innings of baseball games. Really heightens the suspense...
 
2013-08-09 08:49:07 AM  

js34603: I like coming into the cricket threads because I am not convinced you people are not just making up these words to fark with the non cricket world. If you are, maximum trolling achieved, you guys win.


Honestly, it's not Mornington Crescent.

But what do you expect when you combine a lot of English slang and archaic terms (including regionalisms), then throw in some terminology from India, and stir it up with an Australian chazzwozzer word or two?

/it's as if baseball announcers used the Spanish word for knuckleball and the Japanese term for shortstop
 
2013-08-09 09:00:34 AM  

js34603: I like coming into the cricket threads because I am not convinced you people are not just making up these words to fark with the non cricket world. If you are, maximum trolling achieved, you guys win.


I feel the same way when I watch US sports, and I see the tight-end taking a seventh inning stretch during a power play at the low post.

Trott and Cook are really getting embedded now.
 
2013-08-09 09:03:13 AM  

Trapper439: I also really like the way that these cricket threads are never greenlit before the lunch break,


If the start time for the day, preferably denoted in US Eastern Standard Time, were added on to the end of the headline it should get the thread greened on time for the start. Also if someone with TF is around to see it's in the que, can contact an admin to get it on the sports tab ASAP if play has started.
 
2013-08-09 09:10:29 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Trapper439: I also really like the way that these cricket threads are never greenlit before the lunch break,

If the start time for the day, preferably denoted in US Eastern Standard Time, were added on to the end of the headline it should get the thread greened on time for the start. Also if someone with TF is around to see it's in the que, can contact an admin to get it on the sports tab ASAP if play has started.


I honestly thought that you were the person submitting these links. TIL.

I'll be surprised if England have lost 4 by the end of the day.
 
2013-08-09 09:15:59 AM  
50 partnership for Trott and Cook.
 
2013-08-09 09:17:10 AM  

Trapper439: I honestly thought that you were the person submitting these links. TIL.


No, not me. I had TF through the first three matches, but each day by the time I thought to submit a thread, it had already been done. That or I was asleep.

And I wouldn't be surprised if England lost only 2 by the end of the day. In which case, unless Australia completely falls apart, match likely ends in a draw.
 
2013-08-09 09:19:35 AM  
Strange to this noob that they start a 5 day event on Friday, but glad that I will get to finally see the last two days at work next week.
 
2013-08-09 09:21:13 AM  
and though I know there's no real chance of it, I'd love to see England just go on a tear and put up some ridiculous score that would leave Australia staring down a follow on from the get go. Then again the way Australia has been playing 360 could be enough to get them to face the chance of a follow on.
 
2013-08-09 09:22:36 AM  

johnny queso: Strange to this noob that they start a 5 day event on Friday, but glad that I will get to finally see the last two days at work next week.


It may not last 5 days
Scheduling of the teams
Scheduling of the facility
What the hell, we're English, we can be eccentric if we want to.
 
2013-08-09 09:27:03 AM  
Who has to sing the "I'm Sorry" song?
 
2013-08-09 09:28:51 AM  
Wow - Trott is really opening up.  49 runs off 59 balls
 
2013-08-09 09:30:42 AM  

js34603: I like coming into the cricket threads because I am not convinced you people are not just making up these words to fark with the non cricket world. If you are, maximum trolling achieved, you guys win.


I was over in the UK about the time of the 2005 Ashes and my British colleagues gave me a detailed explanation of the game, enough to enjoy it.

Since then, I've forgotten every single thing except they have 1 pointers, 4 pointers, and 6 pointers
 
2013-08-09 09:32:07 AM  
Damn, Trott out at 49.

And on that note, I'm out of the thread.  No broadband where I'm headed for the weekend.  See you all Monday.
 
2013-08-09 09:33:35 AM  

johnny queso: Strange to this noob that they start a 5 day event on Friday, but glad that I will get to finally see the last two days at work next week.


Part of it is just scheduling, and also the first day of a test is going to be the easiest day to sell out, so having it on a Friday does make sense that way. Also keep in mind cricket was originally a game of well to do school boys and young men in centuries past, before the modern idea of a weekend was really around and well like they had to worry about work or anything come Monday.
 
2013-08-09 09:38:22 AM  
So much for that partnership, interestingly enough the record for most runs in a test partnership was for a third wicket partnership, 624 runs, yep a triple century AND a double century. And the next highest record is for a second wicket partnership, also by Sri Lanka, also involving a triple century and a double century. Yeah Sri Lanka has played test cricket like it was an ODI.
 
2013-08-09 09:40:37 AM  
Pietersen really doesn't seem to think much of Lyon's bowling. It's going to make him look foolish in a minute.
 
2013-08-09 09:43:34 AM  
Oh and Sunday the women's Ashes begins, though they're contesting it using all three of the top forms of cricket, Twenty20, ODI and test. Part of it is that England and Australia are the only nations that have women's teams that get to play tests.
 
2013-08-09 09:49:05 AM  

WhyteRaven74: So much for that partnership, interestingly enough the record for most runs in a test partnership was for a third wicket partnership, 624 runs, yep a triple century AND a double century. And the next highest record is for a second wicket partnership, also by Sri Lanka, also involving a triple century and a double century. Yeah Sri Lanka has played test cricket like it was an ODI.


Some of the pitches in the sub-continent are absolute roads, though.

And not bitumen roads, either. They're like that bit where the road suddenly turns to smooth grey concrete and the wheels of your car no longer make noise.

Your grandmother could make runs on pitches that flat.
 
2013-08-09 10:01:13 AM  

Trapper439: Some of the pitches in the sub-continent are absolute roads, though.


True and the records for highest scoring partnerships are both from cricket grounds in Colombo in Sri Lanka.
 
2013-08-09 10:08:21 AM  
Ponting or either of the Waugh brothers would have gotten a run out there.

And now we see a graphic showing that Alec Stewart is the second highest run scorer in English history (behind Gooch). I never would have suspected that.
 
2013-08-09 10:11:53 AM  
Trapper439:
Some of the pitches in the sub-continent are absolute roads, though.

And not bitumen roads, either. They're like that bit where the road suddenly turns to smooth grey concrete and the wheels of your car no longer make noise.

Your grandmother could make runs on pitches that flat.


For real. e.g. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/233797.html

/Not Sri Lanka
//But still
 
2013-08-09 10:12:53 AM  

Trapper439: Ponting or either of the Waugh brothers would have gotten a run out there.

And now we see a graphic showing that Alec Stewart is the second highest run scorer in English history (behind Gooch). I never would have suspected that.


Looking at Cricinfo's scorecard, what I'm amazed at how Cook and Pietersen have virtually identical records. Almost the same number of tests, pretty much identical averages and Pietersen only has about 15 more career runs. Just shows how hugely different styles can be equally effective.
 
2013-08-09 10:18:36 AM  

chakas: For real. e.g. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/233797.html


Funny enough of the five biggest margins of victory based on runs 3 have been in Australia, 1 in England and 1 in Bangladesh.
 
2013-08-09 10:20:46 AM  
And for all the runs scored on Sri Lankan and Indian grounds, the greatest wicket taker in test history is Sri Lankan.
 
2013-08-09 10:29:21 AM  
does cook ever not bat?  i've now watched a total of about 6 days of cricket and he has been batting for every  one of those days except one and that was because australia was in.
 
2013-08-09 10:31:18 AM  

WhyteRaven74: And for all the runs scored on Sri Lankan and Indian grounds, the greatest wicket taker in test history is Sri Lankan.


Murali was a great. You'll see a lot of Warne v Muralitharan debates on the internet.

I prefer to classify one as the greatest wrist spinner ever, and the other as the greatest finger spinner ever.

And both of their greatest moments were raising a whole shiatload of millions of charity money for Sri Lanka in the wake of the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami.

And Cook is gone!!! Bird gets his first Ashes wicket!
 
2013-08-09 10:32:04 AM  
aaaand there he goes.  sorry cook.
 
2013-08-09 10:33:12 AM  
Well...this innings has gone downhill fast. I was settling in for an uneventful rest of the day
 
2013-08-09 10:45:20 AM  
Sly mini-collapse with both established batsmen getting out within a few overs. Couple more wickets as the new batsmen try to get settled again after tea and the Aussies will be well on top. Having said that, Bell could also do what he has been doing all series and wrestle the advantage back for the English. Will be a very interesting first half hour of the 3rd session.
 
2013-08-09 10:54:57 AM  

Trapper439: And both of their greatest moments were raising a whole shiatload of millions of charity money for Sri Lanka in the wake of the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami.


Yep. And as for Muralitharan, he had that perfect story book ending to his test career, getting his 800th wicket on the very last ball he ever bowled in a test match.
 
2013-08-09 11:05:47 AM  

chakas: Sly mini-collapse with both established batsmen getting out within a few overs. Couple more wickets as the new batsmen try to get settled again after tea and the Aussies will be well on top. Having said that, Bell could also do what he has been doing all series and wrestle the advantage back for the English. Will be a very interesting first half hour of the 3rd session.


May have been wrong about the Bell thing...
 
2013-08-09 11:31:43 AM  
I haven't paid the slightest bit of attention but as per usual I will be supporting Anyone But England.
 
2013-08-09 11:39:13 AM  
This Bairstow-Prior partnership is starting to worry me. They're both due for a score.

Mind you, earlier in the thread I stated that I'd be surprised if England had lost four wickets by the close of play. So I should be happy, right?

Pity being a cricket fan doesn't work that way...
 
2013-08-09 12:15:50 PM  

chakas: May have been wrong about the Bell thing...


I want to make a bell end joke, but sadly I'm Canadian and reasonably ignorant about cricket, so there's no way I'd be able to pull it off.
 
2013-08-09 12:26:37 PM  
Big wicket with Prior gone after a partnership of 34 runs off a long 19.2 overs. Neither team able to get momentum for any long period of time today, but things slowly going Australia's way.
 
2013-08-09 12:27:13 PM  
Clarke makes a good review for once.

I thought that was going over at first sight. After watching the review I thought it was possibly going down leg. But it ended up being a great review. About bloody time.
 
2013-08-09 12:32:07 PM  

Trapper439: Clarke makes a good review for once.

I thought that was going over at first sight. After watching the review I thought it was possibly going down leg. But it ended up being a great review. About bloody time.


Yeah 2 out of 2 on the reviews so far, we'll see how long that keeps up... probably not long.
 
2013-08-09 12:34:28 PM  
Also, only 5 runs off the last 10 overs. England taking this rebuilding mindset very seriously.
 
2013-08-09 12:40:01 PM  
Bairstow reviews now. Doesn't even consult Bresnan. There's no way he hit that ball. Umpire's call, so if it's not missing then it's out.

L to the O to the L. Hawkeye says it hit the bail by the smallest of margins, so it's out.

We Aussies have had to eat several millimetre decisions like that already in this series, so sorry but I can't help but crow about that a little.
 
2013-08-09 12:42:34 PM  
It's amazing to me how Australia have turned this series around.  It's a shame the third test was rained to a draw.
 
2013-08-09 12:46:38 PM  

PowerSlacker: It's amazing to me how Australia have turned this series around.  It's a shame the third test was rained to a draw.


Yeah, 1st Test was surprisingly (at the time) close too. But you probably should struggle to win a series when you play like you did in the 2nd Test. Still, wait a few months and we have a whole new series to decide the Ashes again. And if we win them at home we hold them longer.
 
2013-08-09 12:52:15 PM  

Trapper439: Bairstow reviews now. Doesn't even consult Bresnan. There's no way he hit that ball. Umpire's call, so if it's not missing then it's out.

L to the O to the L. Hawkeye says it hit the bail by the smallest of margins, so it's out.

We Aussies have had to eat several millimetre decisions like that already in this series, so sorry but I can't help but crow about that a little.


I understand completely why Bairstow reviewed that. He was a long way down the pitch, to a spinner on a turning track. The umpire had to be guessing with that one and unfortunately for Bairstow, his guess was right by the closest of margins. Before DRS, those sort of decisions never got given due to benefit of the doubt.

fark, now Broad's gone. This has been a pretty shambolic batting performance from England today
 
2013-08-09 12:53:09 PM  

Trapper439: WhyteRaven74: And for all the runs scored on Sri Lankan and Indian grounds, the greatest wicket taker in test history is Sri Lankan.

Murali was a great. You'll see a lot of Warne v Muralitharan debates on the internet.

I prefer to classify one as the greatest wrist spinner ever, and the other as the greatest finger spinner ever.

And both of their greatest moments were raising a whole shiatload of millions of charity money for Sri Lanka in the wake of the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami.

And Cook is gone!!! Bird gets his first Ashes wicket!


He seems like a great guy in every interview you see. But he threw it more than a baseball pitcher. The fact the ICC CHANGED the rules to allow him to bowl 'legally' tells you the influence the subcontinent had/has on cricket. If you can't play a sport within the rules, play another sport.
/rant off
//go the Aussies
///feel robbed after the 3rd Test
////yeah we've been outplayed this series though
Slashies.
 
2013-08-09 12:58:49 PM  
Australia not looking to take the new ball yet? Big chance to bowl them out inside a day for around 200, but also a big chance to get Lyon a 5 wicket haul. How long do you give Lyon before trying to blast the tail out with the new ball?
 
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