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2013-08-09 07:57:34 AM  
Spend 10 million to determine if 1 million was wasted
 
2013-08-09 08:02:09 AM  
TOPEKA, KS-Planned Parenthood announced Tuesday the grand opening of its long-planned $8 billion Abortionplex, a sprawling abortion facility that will allow the organization to terminate unborn lives with an efficiency never before thought possible.

It could be true better create some headlines investigate

 
2013-08-09 08:04:56 AM  
When they wrap this one up they should look into how much all those hurricanes the gay people caused cost us.  Because jobs and Jebus.
 
2013-08-09 08:05:11 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Spend 10 million to determine if 1 million was wasted


Spend 10 million to turn up the obvious answer that 1 million was wasted/poorly spent.
 
2013-08-09 08:06:54 AM  
And when the GAO completely exonerates Planned Parenthood from all impropriety the report will be flushed down the GOP memory hole.
 
2013-08-09 08:07:37 AM  
Worst toy evar! Except the piano.

24.media.tumblr.com

The piano would be a perfect union of exercise and practice.
 
2013-08-09 08:10:29 AM  
LADY PARTS!!!11
 
2013-08-09 08:14:27 AM  

Doctor Funkenstein: When they wrap this one up they should look into how much all those hurricanes the gay people caused cost us.  Because jobs and Jebus.


When they wrap this one up....they should look into how much all these dumb-arse investigations Congress makes them do costs.
 
2013-08-09 08:16:49 AM  
Cracking down on women's health/Planned Parenthood has been proven winner for Republicans/Catholic Church/Right Wing Non-Profits time and time again, and made them the hugely popular institutions with women that they are today.   What could go wrong?
 
2013-08-09 08:20:05 AM  
Yet the Christian-based "family planning" clinics in Virginia, who teach that condoms always fail, are still receiving taxpayer funding.
 
2013-08-09 08:21:30 AM  

InmanRoshi: Cracking down on women's health/Planned Parenthood has been proven winner for Republicans/Catholic Church/Right Wing Non-Profits time and time again, and made them the hugely popular institutions with women that they are today.   What could go wrong?


The lack of access to BC and safe abortions will lead to a rise in population in poverty stricken areas, allowing the GOP to find more people to blame for the status of the nation. It's really a win-win for them!
 
2013-08-09 08:25:43 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: And when the GAO completely exonerates Planned Parenthood from all impropriety the report will be flushed down the GOP memory hole.


This.  With all the scrutiny Planned Parenthood gets, I find it hard to believe they'd cook the books.  Plus, aren't they audited by regulating agencies all the time, like all other medical establishments?
 
2013-08-09 08:29:36 AM  
Doesn't this allow them to suspend funding because of their nonsense "Well they're being investigated!" crap that they pulled on ACORN?  I certainly hope not.
 
2013-08-09 08:39:48 AM  

INeedAName: InmanRoshi: Cracking down on women's health/Planned Parenthood has been proven winner for Republicans/Catholic Church/Right Wing Non-Profits time and time again, and made them the hugely popular institutions with women that they are today.   What could go wrong?

The lack of access to BC and safe abortions will lead to a rise in population in poverty stricken areas, allowing the GOP to find more people to blame for the status of the nation. It's really a win-win for them!


Potentially increasing their voter base too.... Maybe they're just playing a the long game....


Xythero: TofuTheAlmighty: And when the GAO completely exonerates Planned Parenthood from all impropriety the report will be flushed down the GOP memory hole.


And upon exoneration, the GOP base will also dismiss the GAO report as another example of government dishonesty and corruption...
 
2013-08-09 08:50:57 AM  
Can we get investigation and accountability into how the Federal Government and it's christian con-artists spend MY faith-based dollars?


/I know, I know
//why do I hate christians, right?
 
2013-08-09 08:52:35 AM  
I can't decipher the headline.
 
2013-08-09 08:56:37 AM  

SisterMaryElephant: Can we get investigation and accountability into how the Federal Government and it's christian con-artists spend MY faith-based dollars?


/I know, I know
//why do I hate christians, right?


Read "Tempting Faith" it looks like those faith-based dollars were never really spent under Bush, it was all lip-service to get the fundie vote.
 
2013-08-09 09:02:48 AM  
I was at the gym last night and Fox News was on one of the screens, and they were teasing a segment about this, and they actually used the phrase, "The mainstream media isn't reporting this".

I haven't watched Fox for awhile so I thought the whole "Lamestream MSM Media" thing was something we just used to mock them for stuff they've said in the past. But they're still beating that horse. I almost chocked holding my laughter in.
 
2013-08-09 09:17:36 AM  
I was hoping for a list of things about Nick Offerman that I was unaware of.
 
2013-08-09 09:39:26 AM  

clkeagle: Yet the Christian-based "family planning" clinics in Virginia, who teach that condoms always fail, are still receiving taxpayer funding.


They're called "family planning" because if you go to one, plan on having a new family.
 
2013-08-09 09:40:03 AM  
Focusing on jobs

 1.bp.blogspot.com

Like a 'laser'.
 
2013-08-09 09:43:43 AM  
Well, since they've decided to not actually do anything productive (since that might improve the country, and they don't want THAT), it's not like the teabaggers have anything better to do than go on witch hunts.
 
2013-08-09 09:43:47 AM  

clkeagle: Yet the Christian-based "family planning" clinics in Virginia, who teach that condoms always fail, are still receiving taxpayer funding.


THIS

/Next, let's go after all "clinics" spreading false information and practicing medicine without medical professionals on staff
 
2013-08-09 09:44:02 AM  

clkeagle: Yet the Christian-based "family planning" clinics in Virginia, who teach that condoms always fail, are still receiving taxpayer funding.


I'll never, ever forget sitting in middle school health class being taught by those farktards that condoms have a 20% failure rate per use. I really wish I had just kicked that lady in her twat.
 
2013-08-09 09:55:47 AM  
and from 2001 to 2005, 50 CPCs received $30 million in funding from the U.S. federal government.

fark you, you farking pieces of shiat
 
2013-08-09 09:57:54 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: I'll never, ever forget sitting in middle school health class being taught by those farktards that condoms have a 20% failure rate per use. I really wish I had just kicked that lady in her twat.


...and I'll never complain about my middle-school again.  Our health class described and compared every available method of contraception at the time. It was pretty darn realistic too... abstinence was described the only 100% effective method; the pill was described as the most effective method of contraception but warned that it didn't stop STDs; condoms were taught as being just under the pill for effectiveness and that they were best for stopping STDs; and so on down the progression, through withdrawl being just about the worst choice you could make (and why). And that class was mandatory for all students in both 7th and 8th grade.

I do wonder what Omaha Public Schools are teaching these days, though. The state seemed to be a bit more purple when I was growing up there.
 
2013-08-09 10:05:46 AM  
Casey does not seem to be related to Jim Mattox of Texas in any way that I can find.
 
2013-08-09 10:07:32 AM  

Alphax: I can't decipher the headline.


I don't get it either. I think it needs some hyphens. Otherwise it reads like freedom is limiting something.
 
2013-08-09 11:01:15 AM  

Cheron: TOPEKA, KS-Planned Parenthood announced Tuesday the grand opening of its long-planned $8 billion Abortionplex, a sprawling abortion facility that will allow the organization to terminate unborn lives with an efficiency never before thought possible.
It could be true better create some headlines investigate


It's Abortionriffic!
 
2013-08-09 11:04:57 AM  
As someone who recently got a "hey you might want to go get tested call" and paid a perfectly affordable price for said test/treatment I can attest to the fact that Planned Parenthood's money seems perfectly well spent. And can I just add, thank God for Planned Parenthood.
 
2013-08-09 11:07:41 AM  
By providing women the contraception they need to avoid pregnancies they don't want, publicly funded contraceptive services yielded savings of $10.5 billion, or $5.68 for every $1 spent. Link
 
2013-08-09 11:10:34 AM  
Planned Parenthood gets less than half of their budget from government contracts (Fox News claims 45%, FactCheck says about a third). Of that money over 80% is Medicaid funds used strictly for traditional medical care (pap smears, mammograms, etc), and only the last fifth is for Title X (Family Planning). Planned Parenthood spends less than 3% of their budget on abortions.

So yes: even if you grant Fox's claim you're still looking at the possibility that some portion of 9% of their revenue went to cover 3% of their spending in violation of the Hyde Amendment. Does anyone seriously believe that is the case?

Also, do conservatives not know that 80% of federal spending on Planned Parenthood doesn't have anything to do with preventing pregnancy, or does the fact that abortions are provided by a portion of Planned Parenthood clinics enough to taint them beyond any good they do helping to prevent cancer or treat other diseases?
 
2013-08-09 11:10:48 AM  

hobberwickey: As someone who recently got a "hey you might want to go get tested call" and paid a perfectly affordable price for said test/treatment I can attest to the fact that Planned Parenthood's money seems perfectly well spent. And can I just add, thank God for Planned Parenthood.


You seem positively happy.
 
2013-08-09 11:12:39 AM  
Congress has to do something to distract attention away from the fact that they're doing nothing
 
2013-08-09 11:15:34 AM  

thorimm: hobberwickey: As someone who recently got a "hey you might want to go get tested call" and paid a perfectly affordable price for said test/treatment I can attest to the fact that Planned Parenthood's money seems perfectly well spent. And can I just add, thank God for Planned Parenthood.

You seem positively happy.


Knowing is always better than worrying. Combine that with the "I've seen everything, and this ain't shiat" attitude the people at planned parenthood have and yeah, I'm in a pretty good mood.
 
2013-08-09 11:44:10 AM  
... How the Fark does this shiat rate a 'Hero' tag?
 
2013-08-09 11:56:43 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Spend 10 million to determine if 1 million was wasted


Actually if they aren't handcuffed in their analysis, the ROI is almost certainly positive.
 
2013-08-09 12:02:03 PM  
A periodic audit of all NGO's that receive tax payer dollars is always a good thing... I don't care what services they provide.
 
2013-08-09 12:05:19 PM  

dwrash: A periodic audit of all NGO's that receive tax payer dollars is always a good thing... I don't care what services they provide.


If that were the actual reasoning behind the investigation, no one should have a problem with it. Since we all know that isn't the reason, you can go pound sand.
 
2013-08-09 12:09:23 PM  

Grungehamster: Also, do conservatives not know that 80% of federal spending on Planned Parenthood doesn't have anything to do with preventing pregnancy, or does the fact that abortions are provided by a portion of Planned Parenthood clinics enough to taint them beyond any good they do helping to prevent cancer or treat other diseases?


^This.

All life is NOT precious.
 
2013-08-09 12:16:06 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: ... How the Fark does this shiat rate a 'Hero' tag?


Very first thing I thought to myself when I saw a "Hero" tag next to "Fox News" Is WTF is this shiat?!?

Fox news has zero credibility IMO

If a different Organization reported on this I would probably see some merit in investigating overspending, but since its Fox I have to automatically assume it's some kind of Right wing agenda.

In this case they are obviously targeting Womens Rights trying to shut down operations by making Planned parenthood look corrupt

Just the mention of corruption and planned parrenthood in the same sentence is enough for Foxs to report it
 
2013-08-09 12:16:43 PM  

SisterMaryElephant: Grungehamster: Also, do conservatives not know that 80% of federal spending on Planned Parenthood doesn't have anything to do with preventing pregnancy, or does the fact that abortions are provided by a portion of Planned Parenthood clinics enough to taint them beyond any good they do helping to prevent cancer or treat other diseases?

^This.

All life is NOT precious.


Yep, just the lives that attract votes and campaign contributions.
 
2013-08-09 12:23:16 PM  
Can we get the GAO to look at Congressional farmers and their tax benefits next?
 
2013-08-09 12:41:42 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Spend 10 million to determine if 1 million was wasted


So as long as an agency wastes less money than it costs to investigate it's OK?
 
2013-08-09 12:55:27 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: ... How the Fark does this shiat rate a 'Hero' tag?


I assumed it was intended ironically, but maybe I'm too much of an optimist.
 
2013-08-09 12:56:15 PM  
So, when will the accompanying investigation as to why Congress is forcing the Pentagon to buy equipment it doesn't need or want launch?

Don't worry. I won't hold my breath.
 
2013-08-09 12:57:25 PM  

Grungehamster: Also, do conservatives not know that 80% of federal spending on Planned Parenthood doesn't have anything to do with preventing pregnancy, or does the fact that abortions are provided by a portion of Planned Parenthood clinics enough to taint them beyond any good they do helping to prevent cancer or treat other diseases?


They don't care.  They would (and are in some states) cheerfully shut down every woman's health clinic in the country if it meant that one abortion clinic was shut down.
 
2013-08-09 01:02:35 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: And when the GAO completely exonerates Planned Parenthood from all impropriety the report will be flushed down the GOP memory hole.


And when it finds impropriety, the excuse-makers will be saying "It was only $X of waste, fraud, and abuse, what's the big deal? We flush a thousand times that amount down the military/oil subsidies/yachts for Wall Street bankers every year."
 
2013-08-09 01:04:17 PM  

Xythero: TofuTheAlmighty: And when the GAO completely exonerates Planned Parenthood from all impropriety the report will be flushed down the GOP memory hole.

This.  With all the scrutiny Planned Parenthood gets, I find it hard to believe they'd cook the books.  Plus, aren't they audited by regulating agencies all the time, like all other medical establishments?


Did you ever see the amount of fraud attributed to Medicare?
 
2013-08-09 01:10:24 PM  

jjorsett: Did you ever see the amount of fraud attributed to Medicare?


There's a lot less thanks to enforcement provisions in Obamacare. We recovered $4.1B in 2011, a record.
 
2013-08-09 01:29:22 PM  

jjorsett: And when it finds impropriety, the excuse-makers will be saying "It was only $X of waste, fraud, and abuse, what's the big deal? We flush a thousand times that amount down the military/oil subsidies/yachts for Wall Street bankers every year."


And the funny thing is, it's still a valid excuse. Why go for small potatoes when you can get the big ones? More money goes to more people who don't need it, and in the case of the military, don't WANT it. Let's not give this any more legitimacy than what it is, another end-run around Roe v. Wade.
 
2013-08-09 02:08:27 PM  

Grungehamster: Planned Parenthood gets less than half of their budget from government contracts (Fox News claims 45%, FactCheck says about a third). Of that money over 80% is Medicaid funds used strictly for traditional medical care (pap smears, mammograms, etc), and only the last fifth is for Title X (Family Planning). Planned Parenthood spends less than 3% of their budget on abortions.

So yes: even if you grant Fox's claim you're still looking at the possibility that some portion of 9% of their revenue went to cover 3% of their spending in violation of the Hyde Amendment. Does anyone seriously believe that is the case?

Also, do conservatives not know that 80% of federal spending on Planned Parenthood doesn't have anything to do with preventing pregnancy, or does the fact that abortions are provided by a portion of Planned Parenthood clinics enough to taint them beyond any good they do helping to prevent cancer or treat other diseases?


The argument I've seen from most conservatives is that because dollars are fungible, any federal money spent on Planned Parenthood frees up money for them to spend on abortion.  By that logic, I should not get a mortgage interest deduction because I might use that saved money for hookers and blow.
 
2013-08-09 02:13:10 PM  

feanorn: Lost Thought 00: Spend 10 million to determine if 1 million was wasted

So as long as an agency wastes less money than it costs to investigate it's OK?


You read good.
 
2013-08-09 02:16:17 PM  

jjorsett: TofuTheAlmighty: And when the GAO completely exonerates Planned Parenthood from all impropriety the report will be flushed down the GOP memory hole.

And when it finds impropriety, the excuse-makers will be saying "It was only $X of waste, fraud, and abuse, what's the big deal? We flush a thousand times that amount down the military/oil subsidies/yachts for Wall Street bankers every year."


The government should be run like a business. Except when it's not. Then it should waste money.
 
2013-08-09 02:36:56 PM  

jjorsett: TofuTheAlmighty: And when the GAO completely exonerates Planned Parenthood from all impropriety the report will be flushed down the GOP memory hole.

And when it finds impropriety, the excuse-makers will be saying "It was only $X of waste, fraud, and abuse, what's the big deal? We flush a thousand times that amount down the military/oil subsidies/yachts for Wall Street bankers every year."


No process is absolutely pristine; everything is tainted by waste, fraud, and abuse.  It's a question of how big of a problem it is compared to other similar processes and whether the cost of inspection and resolution exceeds the cost of the abuse.
 
2013-08-09 02:42:06 PM  

Stile4aly: The argument I've seen from most conservatives is that because dollars are fungible, any federal money spent on Planned Parenthood frees up money for them to spend on abortion.  By that logic, I should not get a mortgage interest deduction because I might use that saved money for hookers and blow.


They are also OK with churches receiving government money for soup kitchens.  Of course that money frees up other funds to be used for sectarian purposes.
 
2013-08-09 02:44:29 PM  

Stile4aly: The argument I've seen from most conservatives is that because dollars are fungible, any federal money spent on Planned Parenthood frees up money for them to spend on abortion. By that logic, I should not get a mortgage interest deduction because I might use that saved money for hookers and blow.


I sympathize with that argument on some level. It drives me nuts that states get away with claiming their lottery revenues fund education but when they suddenly see an increase in (inflation-adjusted) lottery revenue it doesn't lead to an increase in real education spending usually but rather a cutting of the general fund budget committed to education. The problem is that this cuts both ways: should Catholic hospitals be ineligible for Medicaid funds on a church/state division basis? The "keep them separate on paper" compromise prevents the perfect from being the enemy of the good.

I think another problem is that requires an implicit assumption that abortion is a goal of PP: that they WANT to perform more abortions than they already do and are scamming the government to accomplish that.
 
2013-08-09 03:22:22 PM  
Yeah, about that...

I have a G/F in Dallas, we are old folks and reponsible about sex. No sluttiness involved, she has two college-age sons whom she's justifyable proud of and no plans to have more. We love each other and have lots of sex whenever we can, which is (I should think) a human right. She goes to Planned Parenthood for birth control because her health plan sucks.

We had a scare recently... She went through weeks of morning sickness, and her period was weeks late. Basically she miscarried 12 weeks in.

But that got me thinking... We're both in our late 40's, and both have either jobs or hobbies that would damage the heck out of our chromosmes. There is no way in hell that it would be right by any child we could produce.

Planned Parenthood serves a purpose. There's a huge "OMG! ABORTION!" factor, but dammit, PP *IS* thinking about the children, you numbnuts! And there is a reason abortion is a legitmate procedure.
 
2013-08-09 03:53:43 PM  

maxheck: I have a G/F in Dallas, we are old folks and reponsible about sex. No sluttiness involved, she has two college-age sons whom she's justifyable proud of and no plans to have more. We love each other and have lots of sex whenever we can, which is (I should think) a human right. She goes to Planned Parenthood for birth control because her health plan sucks.


Old people having sex?  *shudders*
 
2013-08-09 04:00:24 PM  
Satanic_Hamster:

maxheck: I have a G/F in Dallas, we are old folks and reponsible about sex. No sluttiness involved, she has two college-age sons whom she's justifyable proud of and no plans to have more. We love each other and have lots of sex whenever we can, which is (I should think) a human right. She goes to Planned Parenthood for birth control because her health plan sucks.

Old people having sex? *shudders*


Yah, sorry. Just know that eventually you'll be that person. IF YOU'RE LUCKY! :P
 
2013-08-09 06:07:53 PM  
And when the results come back showing that Planned Parenthood doesn't spend a dime of government fund on abortion and showing that they are the biggest and most cost-effective provider of health services in the country, I am certain Fox News will report the results with breathless integrity.
 
2013-08-09 06:52:58 PM  

DeaH: And when the results come back showing that Planned Parenthood doesn't spend a dime of government fund on abortion and showing that they are the biggest and most cost-effective provider of health services in the country, I am certain Fox News will report the results with breathless integrity.


Look a few threads up. They're already claiming that, because PP is being investigated, it's OBVIOUSLY corrupt. Despite them being the ones that called for the investigation in the first place.

They're witch-hunt tactics that would make the Inquisition proud.
 
2013-08-09 07:27:44 PM  

LordJiro: DeaH: And when the results come back showing that Planned Parenthood doesn't spend a dime of government fund on abortion and showing that they are the biggest and most cost-effective provider of health services in the country, I am certain Fox News will report the results with breathless integrity.

Look a few threads up. They're already claiming that, because PP is being investigated, it's OBVIOUSLY corrupt. Despite them being the ones that called for the investigation in the first place.

They're witch-hunt tactics that would make the Inquisition proud.


They did not think their witch hunting out very well. The GAO is an independent body. Sure, Republican pretty much forced them to investigate, but Republicans will not be controlling the investigation, itself. Planned Parenthood is meticulous. Anyone with half a brain should already know what the GAO will find. And report. In a very public report that anyone can access. All the congressional Republicans have done is set up a situation where the will be evidence to support their opposition, evidence supported by the independent investigation arm of the United States government, evidence that will carry all the more weight because their propaganda arm is touting the investigation so heavily.

The lack of brain behind this makes me wonder how any one of the fifty who called for this investigation can maintain even basic autonomic functions.
 
2013-08-09 07:44:20 PM  

DeaH: They did not think their witch hunting out very well. The GAO is an independent body. Sure, Republican pretty much forced them to investigate, but Republicans will not be controlling the investigation, itself. Planned Parenthood is meticulous. Anyone with half a brain should already know what the GAO will find. And report. In a very public report that anyone can access. All the congressional Republicans have done is set up a situation where the will be evidence to support their opposition, evidence supported by the independent investigation arm of the United States government, evidence that will carry all the more weight because their propaganda arm is touting the investigation so heavily.

The lack of brain behind this makes me wonder how any one of the fifty who called for this investigation can maintain even basic autonomic functions.


They don't care.  They'll never report on the findings on Fox News, just the fact that they were investigated.  And they'll drop hints that since it's the GOVERNMENT Accounting Office, that means it's controlled by OBAMA.
 
2013-08-09 11:49:53 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: They don't care. They'll never report on the findings on Fox News, just the fact that they were investigated. And they'll drop hints that since it's the GOVERNMENT Accounting Office, that means it's controlled by OBAMA.


Aaaayuuuuup.
 
2013-08-10 03:11:41 AM  

DeaH: And when the results come back showing that Planned Parenthood doesn't spend a dime of government fund on abortion and showing that they are the biggest and most cost-effective provider of health services in the country, I am certain Fox News will report the results with breathless integrity.


Someone will find a paperclip that was bought with tax payer dollars that was used on an abortion patient's paperwork and the outrage will be epic.
 
2013-08-10 12:16:22 PM  

Graffito: DeaH: And when the results come back showing that Planned Parenthood doesn't spend a dime of government fund on abortion and showing that they are the biggest and most cost-effective provider of health services in the country, I am certain Fox News will report the results with breathless integrity.

Someone will find a paperclip that was bought with tax payer dollars that was used on an abortion patient's paperwork and the outrage will be epic.


If the Republicans were conducting the investigation, there'd be all kinds of trumped-up charges. The GAO is different. This was not a well-thought-out plan.
 
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