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2013-08-09 08:26:17 AM  
9 votes:
I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?
2013-08-09 08:25:54 AM  
9 votes:
...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?
2013-08-09 09:00:35 AM  
5 votes:
Sean Hannity argues for a strong national defense yet never served.

Oh, and wake me up when this clown keeps his word and gets waterboarded for the troops he claims to care so deeply about.
2013-08-09 07:37:26 AM  
5 votes:
Fox News flips out over anything is pretty much neither news nor a shock to anyone.

/We flip out.  You decide.
2013-08-09 08:31:20 AM  
4 votes:

clkeagle: ...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?


This.
,
You put it much better than me. Hannity wants to destroy the public schools by removing their money. Matt Damon has taken no money from the public school system and left it for the other kids who need it
2013-08-09 09:35:23 AM  
3 votes:

Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?


Conservatives have a hard time distinguishing "nuance" from "hypocrisy", especially when liberals are involved.

"I'm sending my kids to private school, but I recognize that not everyone can afford that, and therefore support good public schools so that education is available to all children" is hard to fit on a bumper sticker.
2013-08-09 09:18:39 AM  
3 votes:

Debeo Summa Credo: Of course it does. If I'm being forced to chip in for pizza, I might as well grab a slice.


I see your taxes helped bankroll the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as well. May I ask how long you stayed there, you know, to grab a slice of what you paid for?
2013-08-09 08:57:45 AM  
3 votes:

clkeagle: ...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?


Voucher people piss me the fark off. They piss me off more than the idiots who go, "Well, I don't have any kids in school, why should I pay school taxes?" The latter group of idiots are just simply selfish, but no one takes them seriously. We can all agree that  everyone benefits from an educated populace, and  that is why we pay school taxes.

Voucher people have the same level of selfishness, but now they want to not only take money from the public school system, but pump it into the private school system, and they can dress it up with words like "competition", "choice", "freedom", and especially  "religious freedom". These idiots get taken seriously, and we have municipalities having serious debates over what is one of the worst ideas in education or municipal fiscal management  ever.
2013-08-09 08:53:04 AM  
3 votes:
Also, this exchange is baffling:

DAMON:  A teacher wants to teach. Why else would you take a (EXPLETIVE) salary and really long hours and do that job?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Aren't 10 percent bad though? Ten percent of teachers are bad.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where'd you get that number?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ten percent of people in any profession maybe should think of something else.


So public education has some percent of underperformers that you'd expect to occur naturally in any industry or profession.  Therefore public education is bad, broken and dysfunctional and must be defunded.

In other shocking news 15% of people who consume GMO crops have IQ 95 or lower, and that 40% of all sick days are taken on mondays and fridays.
2013-08-09 01:26:17 PM  
2 votes:
Liberals know what is best for everyone.

And they especially know that it doesn't apply to them.
2013-08-09 12:56:24 PM  
2 votes:

Mr. Eugenides: Karac: As for merit pay, here's a short list of things which contribute to how well a student does in class:
how good the teacher is
how good last years teacher was
how much the parents help out at home
how much the parents are able to help out at home, and how much time they spend working two jobs
whether the kid got a good nights sleep
whether the kid got a decent meal
how good their neighborhood is - how much local tax dollars are able to be spent on the school district

In short, there's a very large amount of factors - if not the majority of factors - which go into how well a child learns that are COMPLETELY out of the control of the teacher. And if it's out of their hands why should their pay be docked for it?

Merit pay addresses the top two elements on your list.  It give teachers a financial incentive to make sure the kids in their class do well.

The "it doesn't do everything so we shouldn't do it at all" argument isn't very helpful.


It's not that it doesn't do everything.  It's that it hardly does anything.
A much better option for improving public schools would be to end this outbreak of teacher bashing we've been on for a while.  If you want the quality of teachers to improve then you should:
- start promoting them as honorable and dignified professionals, instead of glorified day care workers out to mentally indoctrinate your children and bilk the taxpayers out of a humongous salary of 50K a year.
- start programs to actually help them out in classrooms.  Pair up experienced educators with new ones, or even with college students getting education degrees.  That'd decrease the workload on the senior teacher, and give the newbie actual hands-on training.

Basically, if you want better teachers, then stop promoting teaching as an evil occupation so the quality of your incoming pool goes up, and try actually helping the ones you've already got.
2013-08-09 10:23:41 AM  
2 votes:
So I see conservatives still don't know what hypocrisy means
2013-08-09 09:43:30 AM  
2 votes:
I don't buy the argument that unless he sends his kids to public school, he has no stake in the matter.
Is he a citizen of this country?
Then he has a stake in an educated population.
As Americans, we all benefit from a strong public school system. A well educated country is better than a poorly educated country.
2013-08-09 09:32:36 AM  
2 votes:

lisse24: It's his outspokenness in favor of public schools and then deciding to send his children to a private school because he "has no choice, really" that makes him a hypocrite.


lisse24: As a person who works in education


Jeezus, I hope you aren't teaching logic.
2013-08-09 09:29:52 AM  
2 votes:

Arkanaut: I hate to admit it, but I think Fox has a point -- if he's sending his kids to private school, Matt Damon doesn't have a stake in the quality of public schools anymore.  He's opting out, and any policies that he advocates for or against won't affect his kids.


...if you've never received food-stamps and medicaid, you cannot have an opinion on social welfare sepnding
...if you've never been to space, you cannot have an opinion on NASA's funding.
...If you've never been employed by an intelligence agency, you cannot have an opinion on government surveillance.


/derp
2013-08-09 09:27:00 AM  
2 votes:
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2013-08-09 09:09:58 AM  
2 votes:
Yeah, have to agree with libs on this one. Couldn't someone say "our public schools suck, therefore Im forced to send my kids to private school?" without being a hypocrite?

Almost every upper middle class or higher white liberal in manhattan sends their kids to private school.
2013-08-09 09:03:50 AM  
2 votes:

MattStafford: The argument that many libertarians would make is that it would be idiotic not to take advantage of a service that you are paying for.  Basically - I disagree with this whole process, but unfortunately I pay taxes to fund the school, so I can avail myself of its use if I want to.


Ah. the good ole' Rand-ian Social Security Manuever.
2013-08-09 08:44:56 AM  
2 votes:

Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools?


And while we're at it, why doesn't this make libertarians hypocrites if they go to a public school?  Doesn't this very simple line of thought go both ways?
2013-08-09 08:44:42 AM  
2 votes:

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?

I think it's the lack of a good education and graduation rates in many schools that concern people.
 Not the pursuit of a good education.
Matt Damon and others only reinforce the same policies and administration that have left millions trapped in a poverty,
These families are living the broken earth while he is the one actually living in Elysium.

Waiting for Superman addressed all this crap but was ignored and buried .http://youtu.be/ZKTfaro96dg

It's easier to just "derp" Romney "derp" republicans "derp" white guys. Rather than dig in and do the real work.
Matt Damon didn't change one damn thing with his little feel good speech.


The fundamental problem has been shown, over and over again by those who actually study it to be poverty, not the "quality" of the schools. You fix poverty, you fix education. Of course there are powerful groups in this country who have a vested interest in ignoring this and instead blaming the "schools" by which they usually mean teachers.
2013-08-09 08:33:55 AM  
2 votes:
If only they show the same level of scrutiny when a Conservative is found balls deep in a twink.
2013-08-10 01:15:38 PM  
1 vote:
Why the fark do people think they should get to pull their money out of the public school system to send their kids somewhere else?

The money you contribute to the public school system isn't to educate YOUR children. It's to maintain an educated populace.

I don't have kids, and I'm not very likely to have them in the future. I don't get (nor do I want) a "voucher" to put towards a motorcycle.

If you can't afford your contribution to public schools AND private school for your children, then you can't afford private school for your children. Just the same as if I can't afford my contribution to public schools and a motorcycle, then I can't afford a motorcycle.

Your contribution to public schools isn't a payment for services rendered personally to your family. It's a debt owed for the upkeep of society.
2013-08-09 06:19:23 PM  
1 vote:

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?

I think it's the lack of a good education and graduation rates in many schools that concern people.
 Not the pursuit of a good education.
Matt Damon and others only reinforce the same policies and administration that have left millions trapped in a poverty,
These families are living the broken earth while he is the one actually living in Elysium.

Waiting for Superman addressed all this crap but was ignored and buried .http://youtu.be/ZKTfaro96dg

It's easier to just "derp" Romney "derp" republicans "derp" white guys. Rather than dig in and do the real work.
Matt Damon didn't change one damn thing with his little feel good speech.


Waiting for Superman wasn't ignored, It was debunked. Matt Damon isn't taking resources from public schools (the way the voucher people or the privatisers do). That means that he is not living in Elysium, especially when he spends his time and resources to help make public school better, as opposed to those who are merely looting the system.

Oh, and charter schools, on average, perform either on the same level or worse than public schools.
2013-08-09 05:27:02 PM  
1 vote:

Truther: As other have pointed out, why doesnt he send his kids there and work to make those schools better? As he TELLS EVERYONE ELSE THAT'S WHAT THEY SHOULD DO.


He tells everyone not to enroll in private schools?  I'm sure you have a quote on this.
2013-08-09 04:09:47 PM  
1 vote:

austerity101: FIELDS: Matt Damon said he didn't want to send his children there because it wasn't progressive enough. What about Americans who think the public school system is too progressive? What if they want a school with Christian values. They can't send their kids there.

Um, people send their kids to conservative Christian schools all the damn time.


The issue is that these folks demand a handout to take that option. And that is the bugbear of "school choice" are a ton of people who want to opt out of public school systems, while still having said education paid for by the public. It is a position that IS baffling--almost as much as the folks who want to know why THEY should pay for public schools when they have no children themselves--ignoring of course that they might one day like to employ, be employed by, or even go to doctor or contractor who has an education...
2013-08-09 03:31:58 PM  
1 vote:

Wooly Bully: Truther: Stoopid Fox News.

I feel so bad for Matt Damon and his children.  The poor guy is being forced to send his kids to private school because of the right wing nut jobs that run the LA Public School system.

For shame, America.  For shame...

OK, you're trolling, but for anyone who's interested, here's a good article on the decline of California's public education system:

http://www.salon.com/2012/10/02/california_educations_painful_declin e/

It will come as no surprise to anyone with a functional cerebrum that this decline wasn't precipitated by a bunch of goddamned lefty teachers.


No trolling, being sarcastic.

Damon spoke out, quite loudly, about public schools and the need to support them (and against school choice).

Personally, I am happy he can afford to send his kids to the school he thinks will be best for his kids.  I think all parents should have some choices in choosing the school that they feel would give their children the best education.

I don't blame the "lefty teachers" - they have a really tough job.  I do blame those who say they know what's best for us, while not subscribing to the beliefs they push on us.
2013-08-09 02:13:20 PM  
1 vote:

ManRay: Karac: ManRay: Matt Damon opted out of the public school system because it sucks and he can.

I hope he starts advocating for everyone to have the same choice available.

Public schools are public because they're required to take all comers.  They can't reject anyone, and they're supported by public dollars.

Now, if you think everyone should have the same choice then you're limited to a few options:

1) As it is now: where if you have the money and your kid's well enough behaved, you can send him to a private school.
2) You drop public schools, and tell people to send their kids to private schools without supporting them - basically doing away with widespread education and literacy.
3) Require private schools to take all comers - which would basically turn them into public schools.

1) So if you don't have the money you are condemned to whatever school the government provides?
2) Who is advocating that? No one. "The money follows the student" is not "defund everything, everyone is on their own".
3) Public schools with (likely) different standards? OK.  Matt Damon wanted a more progressive education for his kids and the public school does not provide that so he choose something else because he has the means to.

Matt Damon is a big supporter of teachers and public schools because his mother was a teacher. He looked at the public school his children would go to and determined they were not a good fit. I respect that choice. I want the single mother in the 'hood to have the same options (even within the public school district) as MD does.


1) Yeah, that's about how it works.  If you don't have the money to afford an option, then you take what you can get for free.
2) "The money follows the student", *is* 'defund everything'.  Or it's just running a con on voters because you know that there's no way private schools could take all comers - meaning that 'choice' is still a pipe dream for anyone who can't already afford it.
3) Look at the 'standards' Louisiana has set up for private schools getting public monies.  Some of them don't even deserve the title 'school'.  And if your school is running off of taxpayer dollars, then yes - the government should be able to set certain minimum standards for the product it's buying.

School choice - just within public schools, is something I can get behind.  I doubt it would work too well - after all, if your kids school is shiatty, then it's a pretty good bet that all of the local schools are shiatty; and an almost certain bet that whichever one isn't shiatty is already at capacity.

But school choice as the local district sending a check to whichever private school you decide to send Johnny to?  That's just a scheme for people who can already afford to send their kid to a private school to get a tax cut.  I've NEVER seen a plan for that which would give any kind of reasonable number of students 'choice'.  At most it'll have a handful of kids to trot out as tokens, but the vast majority of it will be just another method to 'starve the beast' of government.
2013-08-09 01:17:05 PM  
1 vote:
Matt Damon opted out of the public school system because it sucks and he can.

I hope he starts advocating for everyone to have the same choice available.
2013-08-09 01:14:29 PM  
1 vote:

BMFPitt: And any place where such schools could find parents willing to send their kids there probably has the same thing going on in public schools right now. At least that would be cheaper for the taxpayers, leaving more money to fund actual good schools for the kids that have a chance.


Actually, no.  Public schools are not legally allowed to teach creationism.  Or to house children in cubicles, have them watch movies all day, and call that 'teaching'.  And how in the world could diverting money from a public school by using the percentage of the funding they'd spend on a student to a scholarship for that student to go to a private school possibly 'leave more money to fund' that public school.

BMFPitt: I don't share your opinion that teachers are interchangeable cogs who are incapable of producing measurable results or demonstrating varying levels of skill to observers. I also can't comprehend why you call the giving of higher raises to some to be docking the pay of others.


I call it docking the pay of others because some of the proposals for merit pay in my state have actually including docking teachers pay if they didn't meet some legislatively set standard.

BMFPitt: You think that punching him solves some of the factors? Well given the rest of your logic, I'm not surprised.


I'm not too concerned for how you view my logic, given your obvious inability to determine the person you're responding to.
2013-08-09 01:01:30 PM  
1 vote:

ltr77: BMFPitt:

Reforms such as what?

School choice, school competition, merit pay, parent triggers, etc.

None of which work.  Even NRO wrote an article the other day how school choice doesn't work.  Of course, they promised if only we spent MORE money on it it would.  If we want a system that works, we should emulate Finland the best system in the world.  However, the current crop of school reformers seem more keen on emulating Somalia.


True. I feel a prerequisite for this discussion is this book. It's by Diane Ratvitch who was an assistant secretary of education for H.W. Bush and Clinton. She was at that time an advocate of school choice, vouchers etc. However her research and experience lead to to write that book which explains why those movements are seriously damaging American schools.
2013-08-09 12:56:00 PM  
1 vote:
BMFPitt:

Reforms such as what?

School choice, school competition, merit pay, parent triggers, etc.


None of which work.  Even NRO wrote an article the other day how school choice doesn't work.  Of course, they promised if only we spent MORE money on it it would.  If we want a system that works, we should emulate Finland the best system in the world.  However, the current crop of school reformers seem more keen on emulating Somalia.
2013-08-09 12:36:51 PM  
1 vote:

Mr. Eugenides: Karac: As for merit pay, here's a short list of things which contribute to how well a student does in class:
how good the teacher is
how good last years teacher was
how much the parents help out at home
how much the parents are able to help out at home, and how much time they spend working two jobs
whether the kid got a good nights sleep
whether the kid got a decent meal
how good their neighborhood is - how much local tax dollars are able to be spent on the school district

In short, there's a very large amount of factors - if not the majority of factors - which go into how well a child learns that are COMPLETELY out of the control of the teacher. And if it's out of their hands why should their pay be docked for it?

Merit pay addresses the top two elements on your list.  It give teachers a financial incentive to make sure the kids in their class do well.

The "it doesn't do everything so we shouldn't do it at all" argument isn't very helpful.


That is why I feel justified in punching that little punk paperboy. The news that he delivers is very depressing. Sure, my approach doesn't solve all of the factors that contribute to the shiatty news, but few solutions are perfect.
2013-08-09 12:24:22 PM  
1 vote:

Confabulat: I'm a hypocrite about all sorts of things. Most every person I know is, in one way or another. Fine with me, I'm rarely consistent in my thoughts throughout the day, so what? I don't care. Calling me a hypocrite won't hurt my feelings because it's not an insult. It's who we are as human beings.


lol if you think there is any hypocrisy here
2013-08-09 12:13:06 PM  
1 vote:

BMFPitt: Karac: BMFPitt: Corvus: So he wants better public schools for other people even though he would not directly benefit from it.

STRING HIM UP!!

Maybe he likes the idea of them being better, but he actively works to prevent the types of reforms that would improve them.

Reforms such as what?

School choice, school competition, merit pay, parent triggers, etc.


In South Carolina at least school choice is a thinly - very thinly - veiled cover for saying "I want a tax break to send my kids to the private school I'm already sending them too."  In Louisiana, it's a thin cover for saying "We'd like to siphon tax dollars away from public schools to private religious schools that teach creationism by VHS players in cubicles".

As for merit pay, here's a short list of things which contribute to how well a student does in class:
how good the teacher is
how good last years teacher was
how much the parents help out at home
how much the parents are able to help out at home, and how much time they spend working two jobs
whether the kid got a good nights sleep
whether the kid got a decent meal
how good their neighborhood is - how much local tax dollars are able to be spent on the school district

In short, there's a very large amount of factors - if not the majority of factors - which go into how well a child learns that are COMPLETELY out of the control of the teacher.  And if it's out of their hands why should their pay be docked for it?
2013-08-09 12:01:01 PM  
1 vote:

BMFPitt: Corvus: So he wants better public schools for other people even though he would not directly benefit from it.

STRING HIM UP!!

Maybe he likes the idea of them being better, but he actively works to prevent the types of reforms that would improve them.


Reforms such as what?
2013-08-09 11:32:05 AM  
1 vote:

Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?


He also released a statement that, in essence, said that he and his wife just couldn't find a public school that offered the same educational values that they grew up with. Also, it's that reason why he's a public school advocate to begin with. So yeah, I don't see the hypocrisy in this decision at all.
2013-08-09 11:30:29 AM  
1 vote:
Only an ignorant anti-education conservative would think the statements:

"We need to improve public schools", and
"I'm sending my kids to a private school because the public ones aren't up to snuff"

are mutually incompatable.
2013-08-09 11:30:24 AM  
1 vote:
"Fox News flips out when [famous liberal] does [any action]"

Pretty much sums it up
2013-08-09 11:18:29 AM  
1 vote:

IrateShadow: the school is free to expel problem students.


A friend of my wife had a little boy that was a douchebag they sent him to private school in 1st grade and by the second week he was kicked out of school. The freedom to kick out problem kids is a huuuuge advantage that makes the two types of schools incomparable.
2013-08-09 11:14:09 AM  
1 vote:
lisse24He has purposefully aligned himself with a group that says, "Public schools are great! We don't need to change anything."

I know lots of people have beaten up on you already but I'd like to add to the dogpile by pointing out that a minor amount of research shows that the group Damon works with, Save Our Schools, has proposed a number of strategies to improve education.
2013-08-09 11:13:18 AM  
1 vote:
No, he won life's lottery and can afford things that the shrinking middle class and lower classes can't. Probably takes advantage of all kinds of tax loopholes in order to keep from paying his fair share too.

wow, DIA is jealous of the wealthy
2013-08-09 11:07:29 AM  
1 vote:

Dancin_In_Anson: clkeagle: ...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?

No, he won life's lottery and can afford things that the shrinking middle class and lower classes can't. Probably takes advantage of all kinds of tax loopholes in order to keep from paying his fair share too.


Are you saying that you just file a 1040EZ and take zero deductions so that, you know, you pay your fair share?
2013-08-09 11:06:01 AM  
1 vote:
Mind you, this is Hannity we're talking about; the same guy who puts his name on Freedom Concerts that give about 10% of their take to the families of the war vets that he supports so wholeheartedly, so we're not exactly talking about a man with a whole lot of integrity or moral certitude.

His job is to spin any event, any topic, any thing into illustrations of the polar nature of the process, which essentially comes down to Our Side, Their Side, and Their Side is always bad. and Our Side is always good. It's not terribly good journalism, but that is what passes for journalism today...
2013-08-09 10:52:46 AM  
1 vote:

LordJiro: You can never truly eradicate poverty


Of course you could. If you literally just GAVE every man, woman and child in the United States who are currently living in poverty a stipend of $1 above the poverty line it would cost about $130bn less than the defense budget alone.

And it wouldn't even cost that much because most of those people actually make some small amount of income and wouldn't need the full stipend to meet the criteria.

I understand your point but.... it's not really THAT monumental of a problem considering our incredible wealth, we just aren't willing to even try.
2013-08-09 10:46:15 AM  
1 vote:

Dancin_In_Anson: clkeagle: ...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?

No, he won life's lottery and can afford things that the shrinking middle class and lower classes can't. Probably takes advantage of all kinds of tax loopholes in order to keep from paying his fair share too.


So, I guess you agree that such loopholes should be closed?
2013-08-09 10:27:37 AM  
1 vote:

tenpoundsofcheese: theknuckler_33: FIELDS: He loves talking them up, but doesn't want to send his kids there.
You know, he said he didn't have a choice. He had to do it. Actually he did have a choice. The people who don't have a choice are the rest of Americans who don't have Matt Damon's bank account and can't afford to send their kids to a private school.
...
HANNITY: She's brining up a point you're ignoring. Why not give every American a choice?

You heard it here first, America. Sean Hannity advocating giving every American the money they need to send their kids to private schools.

No wonder you don't like hannity - you make up things about what he said.


How is he proposing every American have a choice when the reason they don't have a choice is because they can't afford it? That's a neat trick without giving them the money to be able to send their kids to private school so that they can make the choice.

Oh right, the idea is get RID of the funding for public schools and replace it with a voucher program that pays a tiny fraction of private school tuition, but covers most of the old public schools that now are even more under funded than before and let call that "school choice", amirite?

*jerking motion*
2013-08-09 10:25:07 AM  
1 vote:
It is abhorrent that he is advocating for a publicly available minimum standard of education. Absolutely terrible.
2013-08-09 10:08:49 AM  
1 vote:
The worst part of the exchange was the blatant lying by Hannity.  He said that the high school graduation rate in New York city is below 50%, when in fact the graduation rate was 65% .
2013-08-09 09:47:28 AM  
1 vote:
So are the Fox News folks gonna show him up by having their kids attend public schools?  Thought so.
2013-08-09 09:27:20 AM  
1 vote:

EyeballKid: Debeo Summa Credo: Of course it does. If I'm being forced to chip in for pizza, I might as well grab a slice.

I see your taxes helped bankroll the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as well. May I ask how long you stayed there, you know, to grab a slice of what you paid for?


We all grab a slice of Iraq when we drive to work.
2013-08-09 09:27:19 AM  
1 vote:

cenobyte40k: He is not telling people they must use public schools and then he doesn't. He is telling people that we should support better public education, which he does, but doesn't think it's good enough yet, so he sends his kids to private school.


And, in so doing, he is improving the public school system- he contributes taxes to the system but doesn't consume its resources (directly).
2013-08-09 09:25:44 AM  
1 vote:
Supporting the improvement of something that you don't use doesn't make you a hypocrite. Honestly that word isn't that complicated. He is not telling people they must use public schools and then he doesn't. He is telling people that we should support better public education, which he does, but doesn't think it's good enough yet, so he sends his kids to private school. Wanted public school to good and not thinking it's good yet is not hypocritical. This is just reaching idiotic hyperbowl hoping to undermine their 'enemies' position.
2013-08-09 09:03:17 AM  
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From the Hannity promo on the page:

Ann Coulter reacts.

Obviously Fox's answer to Jesus wept.  and one of the shortest but truest job descriptions of all Fox "news" talent and the summary of content of all their "news" shows.
2013-08-09 08:49:36 AM  
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Xcott: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools?

And while we're at it, why doesn't this make libertarians hypocrites if they go to a public school?  Doesn't this very simple line of thought go both ways?


It also doesn't make them hypocrites when they're on government assistance. Right, Ayn?
2013-08-09 08:36:51 AM  
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Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?


I think it's the lack of a good education and graduation rates in many schools that concern people.
 Not the pursuit of a good education.
Matt Damon and others only reinforce the same policies and administration that have left millions trapped in a poverty,
These families are living the broken earth while he is the one actually living in Elysium.

Waiting for Superman addressed all this crap but was ignored and buried .http://youtu.be/ZKTfaro96dg

It's easier to just "derp" Romney "derp" republicans "derp" white guys. Rather than dig in and do the real work.
Matt Damon didn't change one damn thing with his little feel good speech.
2013-08-09 08:29:48 AM  
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Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?


Yep. My take on what Damon was trying to say is he had a great public education but he has seen that decline a lot. That's why he put his kids in private school, so that they would get a good education while trying to find a school that wasn't stuck up so his kids can get an education and experience that he had as a kid.
2013-08-09 08:29:01 AM  
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clkeagle: ...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?


That's a bingo.
2013-08-09 08:24:34 AM  
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No clicks for dicks!

Would anyone who suffered through this be kind enough to summarize (beyond a simple "derp")?
2013-08-09 08:23:37 AM  
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I can only imagine their reaction when they find out what they eat, after supporting so much food aid to the third world.  Why aren't they eating highly concentrated cardboard nutrients?!  God damn hollywood hypocrites.
 
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