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2013-08-09 07:37:26 AM  
Fox News flips out over anything is pretty much neither news nor a shock to anyone.

/We flip out.  You decide.
 
2013-08-09 08:23:37 AM  
I can only imagine their reaction when they find out what they eat, after supporting so much food aid to the third world.  Why aren't they eating highly concentrated cardboard nutrients?!  God damn hollywood hypocrites.
 
2013-08-09 08:23:43 AM  
And he is neither black nor gay nor female. What liberal values can he really believe?
 
2013-08-09 08:24:13 AM  
If Matt Damon doesn't go to jail for this, or at least has to sit in a hot cop car with the windows up for eight hours, then it pretty much shows this country is turning into a police state.
 
2013-08-09 08:24:34 AM  
No clicks for dicks!

Would anyone who suffered through this be kind enough to summarize (beyond a simple "derp")?
 
2013-08-09 08:25:06 AM  
MAAAAAAAAAAAATT DAAAAMOOOON
 
2013-08-09 08:25:29 AM  
Let me guess the school in question does not teach the kids that jeebus rode dinosaurs.
 
2013-08-09 08:25:54 AM  
...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?
 
2013-08-09 08:26:17 AM  
I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?
 
2013-08-09 08:26:21 AM  
Looks like Fox News trolls right-wing Facebook pages for memes they can turn into stories.  This "expose" has been around for a couple of weeks.
 
2013-08-09 08:29:01 AM  

clkeagle: ...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?


That's a bingo.
 
2013-08-09 08:29:39 AM  
"This is a rush transcript from "Hannity,"


aaaaaaand I stopped reading right there.
 
2013-08-09 08:29:48 AM  

Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?


Yep. My take on what Damon was trying to say is he had a great public education but he has seen that decline a lot. That's why he put his kids in private school, so that they would get a good education while trying to find a school that wasn't stuck up so his kids can get an education and experience that he had as a kid.
 
2013-08-09 08:30:45 AM  

clkeagle: ...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?


If you think there should be some sort of minimum standard of living for people, you are a hypocrite if you do not live at that exact same level.
 
2013-08-09 08:31:20 AM  

clkeagle: ...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?


This.
,
You put it much better than me. Hannity wants to destroy the public schools by removing their money. Matt Damon has taken no money from the public school system and left it for the other kids who need it
 
2013-08-09 08:31:27 AM  
But, it's still cool to home-school your kids to keep them safe from those people and to re-establish the strong academic tradition of 2+2 = Jeebus, which the heathen public schools are scared to teach, right?
 
2013-08-09 08:31:34 AM  
Whoops - quoted the wrong post, meant to quote:

Ivandrago: Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?

 
2013-08-09 08:32:20 AM  

Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?


According to Sean Hannity, you're a hypocrite.  And your feet smell.  And you probably eat your boogers, too.
 
2013-08-09 08:32:39 AM  
on the plus side, that article reminded me of the awesome smackdown Damon delivered on that other reporter a few years ago about working hard.
 
2013-08-09 08:33:55 AM  
If only they show the same level of scrutiny when a Conservative is found balls deep in a twink.
 
2013-08-09 08:34:40 AM  

ActionJoe: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?

Yep. My take on what Damon was trying to say is he had a great public education but he has seen that decline a lot. That's why he put his kids in private school, so that they would get a good education while trying to find a school that wasn't stuck up so his kids can get an education and experience that he had as a kid.


I had a great elementary education at public school and a terrible middle school education at a public school. The public high school I was zoned for was horrid as well and my parents decided I'd be better served by a private, single-sex catholic school. I wouldn't trade my crappy public middle school experience for anything. It may have been bad, but it was fun as hell at the time. 
I have a feeling if Damon had decided to send his kid to private school for religious reasons (Christian, of course) Hannity would have been hard pressed to complain about that.
 
2013-08-09 08:36:24 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: If only they show the same level of scrutiny when a Conservative is found balls deep in a twink.


That's just an honest mistake... Jeebus will forgive them.
 
2013-08-09 08:36:51 AM  

Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?


I think it's the lack of a good education and graduation rates in many schools that concern people.
 Not the pursuit of a good education.
Matt Damon and others only reinforce the same policies and administration that have left millions trapped in a poverty,
These families are living the broken earth while he is the one actually living in Elysium.

Waiting for Superman addressed all this crap but was ignored and buried .http://youtu.be/ZKTfaro96dg

It's easier to just "derp" Romney "derp" republicans "derp" white guys. Rather than dig in and do the real work.
Matt Damon didn't change one damn thing with his little feel good speech.
 
2013-08-09 08:37:12 AM  

Dog Welder: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?

According to Sean Hannity, you're a hypocrite.  And your feet smell.  And you probably eat your boogers, too.


Does he? We don't know. We're only asking questions.

We reached out to Ivandrago to allow him to defend himself on these allegations of smelly feet and booger eating, but we have yet to hear back from him.

*smarmy look into the camera as I pick up my blackberry which has magically and conveniently appeared on my desk within camera shot*

Ivandrago, my phone's right here. It's not ringing.

*last faux resigned look into the camera with a taste of "I told you so"*

*segwey into some crap about my radio show and up next: Greta Van Sustren*
 
2013-08-09 08:41:18 AM  
 
2013-08-09 08:44:42 AM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?

I think it's the lack of a good education and graduation rates in many schools that concern people.
 Not the pursuit of a good education.
Matt Damon and others only reinforce the same policies and administration that have left millions trapped in a poverty,
These families are living the broken earth while he is the one actually living in Elysium.

Waiting for Superman addressed all this crap but was ignored and buried .http://youtu.be/ZKTfaro96dg

It's easier to just "derp" Romney "derp" republicans "derp" white guys. Rather than dig in and do the real work.
Matt Damon didn't change one damn thing with his little feel good speech.


The fundamental problem has been shown, over and over again by those who actually study it to be poverty, not the "quality" of the schools. You fix poverty, you fix education. Of course there are powerful groups in this country who have a vested interest in ignoring this and instead blaming the "schools" by which they usually mean teachers.
 
2013-08-09 08:44:56 AM  

Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools?


And while we're at it, why doesn't this make libertarians hypocrites if they go to a public school?  Doesn't this very simple line of thought go both ways?
 
2013-08-09 08:49:36 AM  

Xcott: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools?

And while we're at it, why doesn't this make libertarians hypocrites if they go to a public school?  Doesn't this very simple line of thought go both ways?


It also doesn't make them hypocrites when they're on government assistance. Right, Ayn?
 
2013-08-09 08:50:08 AM  

Xcott: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools?

And while we're at it, why doesn't this make libertarians hypocrites if they go to a public school?  Doesn't this very simple line of thought go both ways?


I never thought about that one.

New demographic to mock: libertarians who continued to take out federal student loans and attend public universities after forming their so-called political ideology.
 
2013-08-09 08:53:04 AM  
Also, this exchange is baffling:

DAMON:  A teacher wants to teach. Why else would you take a (EXPLETIVE) salary and really long hours and do that job?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Aren't 10 percent bad though? Ten percent of teachers are bad.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where'd you get that number?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ten percent of people in any profession maybe should think of something else.


So public education has some percent of underperformers that you'd expect to occur naturally in any industry or profession.  Therefore public education is bad, broken and dysfunctional and must be defunded.

In other shocking news 15% of people who consume GMO crops have IQ 95 or lower, and that 40% of all sick days are taken on mondays and fridays.
 
2013-08-09 08:53:42 AM  

eiger: The fundamental problem has been shown, over and over again by those who actually study it to be poverty, not the "quality" of the schools. You fix poverty, you fix education. Of course there are powerful groups in this country who have a vested interest in ignoring this and instead blaming the "schools" by which they usually mean teachers.


Exactly, and education is one of the means through which poverty becomes generational.  Tying the funding of schools to property taxes ensures that rich communities get rich schools and poor communities get underfunded schools.
 
2013-08-09 08:54:16 AM  

Xcott: And while we're at it, why doesn't this make libertarians hypocrites if they go to a public school?  Doesn't this very simple line of thought go both ways?


The argument that many libertarians would make is that it would be idiotic not to take advantage of a service that you are paying for.  Basically - I disagree with this whole process, but unfortunately I pay taxes to fund the school, so I can avail myself of its use if I want to.
 
2013-08-09 08:57:45 AM  

clkeagle: ...I assume the outrage is that Matt Damon isn't demanding a taxpayer-funded voucher to cover their private tuition?


Voucher people piss me the fark off. They piss me off more than the idiots who go, "Well, I don't have any kids in school, why should I pay school taxes?" The latter group of idiots are just simply selfish, but no one takes them seriously. We can all agree that  everyone benefits from an educated populace, and  that is why we pay school taxes.

Voucher people have the same level of selfishness, but now they want to not only take money from the public school system, but pump it into the private school system, and they can dress it up with words like "competition", "choice", "freedom", and especially  "religious freedom". These idiots get taken seriously, and we have municipalities having serious debates over what is one of the worst ideas in education or municipal fiscal management  ever.
 
2013-08-09 09:00:25 AM  

ActionJoe: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?

Yep. My take on what Damon was trying to say is he had a great public education but he has seen that decline a lot. That's why he put his kids in private school, so that they would get a good education while trying to find a school that wasn't stuck up so his kids can get an education and experience that he had as a kid.


What a monster, amiright?
 
2013-08-09 09:00:35 AM  
Sean Hannity argues for a strong national defense yet never served.

Oh, and wake me up when this clown keeps his word and gets waterboarded for the troops he claims to care so deeply about.
 
2013-08-09 09:00:51 AM  
I'm a public school teacher and do not foresee that my child will attend public school after 3rd grade. Even that's looking sketchy as we're in NC, where the Republican legislature has just gutted public schools to fund vouchers for charter and homeschools (read: "Jesus Camps").
 
2013-08-09 09:03:17 AM  
From the Hannity promo on the page:

Ann Coulter reacts.

Obviously Fox's answer to Jesus wept.  and one of the shortest but truest job descriptions of all Fox "news" talent and the summary of content of all their "news" shows.
 
2013-08-09 09:03:50 AM  

MattStafford: The argument that many libertarians would make is that it would be idiotic not to take advantage of a service that you are paying for.  Basically - I disagree with this whole process, but unfortunately I pay taxes to fund the school, so I can avail myself of its use if I want to.


Ah. the good ole' Rand-ian Social Security Manuever.
 
2013-08-09 09:03:54 AM  

The Drawing Board: Oh, and wake me up when this clown keeps his word and gets waterboarded for the troops he claims to care so deeply about.


Are you kidding?! He's probably busy raiding the leftover funds from his charity for the troops while Megyn Kelly starts moving her things into his dressing room.
 
2013-08-09 09:06:41 AM  

the opposite of charity is justice: Ah. the good ole' Rand-ian Social Security Manuever.


I mean, it makes sense, doesn't it?  If I am forced to buy something against my will, I might as well use it.
 
2013-08-09 09:07:57 AM  

Xcott: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools?

And while we're at it, why doesn't this make libertarians hypocrites if they go to a public school?  Doesn't this very simple line of thought go both ways?



Yes, hypocrites all around.

For example, I attended a private school for part of my education (K-10) and I teach at a private school, therefore I cannot support quality education in public schools.  This is why I do not support quality education in public schools.

In addition, I am libertarian.  I was not a hypocrite for attending public school (11-12) because I hadn't learned about libertarianism yet.  But I used to work at a public school, and I am a hypocrite for doing that.  I was a libertarian government employee.  Hypocrite.

I hope this clarifies things.
 
2013-08-09 09:09:58 AM  
Yeah, have to agree with libs on this one. Couldn't someone say "our public schools suck, therefore Im forced to send my kids to private school?" without being a hypocrite?

Almost every upper middle class or higher white liberal in manhattan sends their kids to private school.
 
2013-08-09 09:12:11 AM  

MattStafford: the opposite of charity is justice: Ah. the good ole' Rand-ian Social Security Manuever.

I mean, it makes sense, doesn't it?  If I am forced to buy something against my will, I might as well use it.


Of course it does. If I'm being forced to chip in for pizza, I might as well grab a slice.
 
2013-08-09 09:18:39 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Of course it does. If I'm being forced to chip in for pizza, I might as well grab a slice.


I see your taxes helped bankroll the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as well. May I ask how long you stayed there, you know, to grab a slice of what you paid for?
 
2013-08-09 09:21:18 AM  

ActionJoe: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools? I'm an advocate of strong public schools, but I went to a private high school. Does that make me a hypocrite? Why does wanting everyone to get a good education regardless of wealth make me a hypocrite?

Yep. My take on what Damon was trying to say is he had a great public education but he has seen that decline a lot. That's why he put his kids in private school, so that they would get a good education while trying to find a school that wasn't stuck up so his kids can get an education and experience that he had as a kid.


I hate to admit it, but I think Fox has a point -- if he's sending his kids to private school, Matt Damon doesn't have a stake in the quality of public schools anymore.  He's opting out, and any policies that he advocates for or against won't affect his kids.  And frankly, even if you're concerned about the quality of education in public schools, there should be lots of after-school / weekend / summer programs that he can send his kids to, which can achieve a lot of the educational results that he's looking for.

To play the cynic though -- the reason you send your kids to private school isn't for education, it's to make connections with kids of other rich and powerful families.  That's something that would be virtually impossible to get from a public school.

That said the ultimate problem is, like eiger said, with poverty -- parents can't devote time to their kids if they're working two, three jobs each just to get by.
 
2013-08-09 09:21:27 AM  

Wulfman: Xcott: Ivandrago: I find this confusing. You can't be an advocate of public schools if you send your kids to private schools?

And while we're at it, why doesn't this make libertarians hypocrites if they go to a public school?  Doesn't this very simple line of thought go both ways?


Yes, hypocrites all around.

For example, I attended a private school for part of my education (K-10) and I teach at a private school, therefore I cannot support quality education in public schools.  This is why I do not support quality education in public schools.

In addition, I am libertarian.  I was not a hypocrite for attending public school (11-12) because I hadn't learned about libertarianism yet.  But I used to work at a public school, and I am a hypocrite for doing that.  I was a libertarian government employee.  Hypocrite.

I hope this clarifies things.


I'm a liberal Iraq war veteran who was against the war from the jump (I kept that to myself and my close family of course because back then speaking out against decisions your CinC was making would get you in trouble and not a pat on the back from your supervisor like many would today). I now work for an investment firm yet I'm in favor of tighter regulations on the financial industry and I'm sickened by the cartoon-ish top heavy corporate pay structure that has developed over the last 30+ years.

Basically, I'm farked.

/Was really dumfounded by the amount of right wing propaganda that was blown up our asses when I was still in
 
2013-08-09 09:24:01 AM  
I didn't know he even had kids.
 
2013-08-09 09:24:36 AM  

The Drawing Board: Sean Hannity argues for a strong national defense yet never served.


some say he's also virulently anti-gay despite being a well-known homosexual.

/some say
 
2013-08-09 09:25:44 AM  
Supporting the improvement of something that you don't use doesn't make you a hypocrite. Honestly that word isn't that complicated. He is not telling people they must use public schools and then he doesn't. He is telling people that we should support better public education, which he does, but doesn't think it's good enough yet, so he sends his kids to private school. Wanted public school to good and not thinking it's good yet is not hypocritical. This is just reaching idiotic hyperbowl hoping to undermine their 'enemies' position.
 
2013-08-09 09:27:00 AM  
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