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(Talking Points Memo)   Mitch McConnell's campaign manager: My boss sucks, but "I'm holding my nose for two years", so I can help Rand Paul in 2016   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 77
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2013-08-08 02:10:42 PM  
The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed
 
2013-08-08 02:15:49 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed


I recall that Al Gore (or was it Kerry?) got 90% of DC's vote to Bush's 9%. I want to see 0% of DC vote for Rand - you can't come to the cradle of American government and lie and distort recent history to students at probably the top HBC in the nation (as well as being a damn fine institution and a hub of culture for DC's youth) and expect them to love you for it.

As much of an uphill climb as the GOP has in DC, Rand looked at it and said "You know what we need to scale this hill? Bricks in our packs and cement shoes. Oh, and toss the water, it's only weighing us down."
 
2013-08-08 02:21:38 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed

I recall that Al Gore (or was it Kerry?) got 90% of DC's vote to Bush's 9%. I want to see 0% of DC vote for Rand - you can't come to the cradle of American government and lie and distort recent history to students at probably the top HBC in the nation (as well as being a damn fine institution and a hub of culture for DC's youth) and expect them to love you for it.

As much of an uphill climb as the GOP has in DC, Rand looked at it and said "You know what we need to scale this hill? Bricks in our packs and cement shoes. Oh, and toss the water, it's only weighing us down."


In 2000, Gore carried DC with 85%.  Bush got 8.95, his lowest performance in DC.
 
2013-08-08 02:33:30 PM  
I like it that the Tea Party (officially, GOP) guy has jumped on it, while the Democrat is just sitting and watching.  The GOP is just determined to implode, isn't it?
 
2013-08-08 02:36:24 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed


If the GOP puts Rand Paul on the ticket in '16 Hillary could name Casey Anthony as her running mate and make this her campaign theme song and still run away with the election.
 
2013-08-08 02:42:46 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed


Sorry, minor correction needed:  Alf Landon actually holds the record for the least number of EC votes received, as he received ONE EC vote in the 1936 election.
 
2013-08-08 02:52:49 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Dr Dreidel: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed

I recall that Al Gore (or was it Kerry?) got 90% of DC's vote to Bush's 9%. I want to see 0% of DC vote for Rand - you can't come to the cradle of American government and lie and distort recent history to students at probably the top HBC in the nation (as well as being a damn fine institution and a hub of culture for DC's youth) and expect them to love you for it.

As much of an uphill climb as the GOP has in DC, Rand looked at it and said "You know what we need to scale this hill? Bricks in our packs and cement shoes. Oh, and toss the water, it's only weighing us down."

In 2000, Gore carried DC with 85%.  Bush got 8.95, his lowest performance in DC.


Isn't that somewhat strategy on most GOP's part.  You are not going to win a district, so say whatever the hell you want to that audience, especially if your base eats it up in other districts.  Lose nothing in DC, possibly gain in another state/district. Akin to Romney's 47% attitude.
 
2013-08-08 02:53:48 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed

Sorry, minor correction needed:  Alf Landon actually holds the record for the least number of EC votes received, as he received ONE EC vote in the 1936 election.


No.  He carried Maine and Vermont, for a total of 8.  It's still a record, though, since Mondale carried DC and Minnesota for a total of 13.
 
2013-08-08 02:56:58 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed

Sorry, minor correction needed:  Alf Landon actually holds the record for the least number of EC votes received, as he received ONE EC vote in the 1936 election.

No.  He carried Maine and Vermont, for a total of 8.  It's still a record, though, since Mondale carried DC and Minnesota for a total of 13.


If you want to count Perot as a major candidate (he was about as major as any independent has been in modern times) he carried just under 20% of the popular vote, but received 0 electoral college votes.
 
2013-08-08 03:08:04 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed

Sorry, minor correction needed:  Alf Landon actually holds the record for the least number of EC votes received, as he received ONE EC vote in the 1936 election.

No.  He carried Maine and Vermont, for a total of 8.  It's still a record, though, since Mondale carried DC and Minnesota for a total of 13.

If you want to count Perot as a major candidate (he was about as major as any independent has been in modern times) he carried just under 20% of the popular vote, but received 0 electoral college votes.


As James Carville said (roughly), "The single most expensive act of masturbation in the history of politics."

/Can't find the exact quote, nor the clip, sorry
 
2013-08-08 03:09:49 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed

Sorry, minor correction needed:  Alf Landon actually holds the record for the least number of EC votes received, as he received ONE EC vote in the 1936 election.

No.  He carried Maine and Vermont, for a total of 8.  It's still a record, though, since Mondale carried DC and Minnesota for a total of 13.


Ack, good catch.  I read the wring row on the spreadsheet that I was looking at.  :(
 
2013-08-08 03:14:20 PM  
I take it back.  John Quincy Adams has the record (after Perot, but I don't count him as a serious candidate):  1.

Even though all electors were pledged to Monroe, 1 threw his vote to Adams.  (Tradition holds that he did it so that Washington would be the only unanimously elected President.  In fact, he was simply voting against what he saw as a bad President.)

But presidential elections were different then, so Landon holds the dubious honor of having posted the worst showing since the rule change.
 
2013-08-08 03:42:21 PM  
"Between you an me, I'm sorta holding my nose for two years," Benton said in the recording, "'cause what we're doing here is gonna be a big benefit to Rand in '16."

The call was recorded by Fusaro on January 9.

McConnell endorsed Paul's GOP primary opponent, Trey Grayson, in 2010. Paul, however, made it clear that he's backing McConnell in his re-election effort next year.

Benton pushed back forcefully, issuing a statement to denounce the recording and reiterate his commitment to McConnell's campaign.

"It is truly sick that someone would record a private phone conversation I had out of kindness and use it to try to hurt me," he said in the statement. "I believe in Senator McConnell and am 100 percent committed to his re-election. Being selected to lead his campaign is one of the great honors of my life and I look forward to victory in November of 2014."


He is sick that someone recorded his conversation, not that he said it. I wonder if Mitch stood him up. Rand wouldn't do that. Rand is so kind. And soft. And manly with a chiseled jaw line. Did you see him filibuster the *entire* Senate. Oh he was so worked up and pas.. proud of him.
 
2013-08-08 04:02:17 PM  
This tiff is just getting started.  The GOP civil war everyone has been waiting for will arrive by the end of the year.
 
2013-08-08 04:04:57 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: In 2000, Gore carried DC with 85%.  Bush got 8.95, his lowest performance in DC.


Obama got 92.5% in 2008.
 
2013-08-08 05:38:57 PM  
Which part is funnier? Admitting she hates McConnell or that she thinks Rand Paul actually has a chance?
 
2013-08-08 05:39:27 PM  
So he aspires to being an even bigger loser

/brilliant
 
2013-08-08 05:46:13 PM  
I needed some laughs today. Thank you, subby. This is brilliant stuff.
 
2013-08-08 05:47:52 PM  
"It is truly sick that someone would record a private phone conversation I had out of kindness and use it to try to hurt me," he said in the statement. "I believe in Senator McConnell and am 100 percent committed to his re-election. Being selected to lead his campaign is one of the great honors of my life and I look forward to victory in November of 2014."

Ha ha ha. Which one do we believe - a statement released to the press, or a candid moment caught on tape?
 
2013-08-08 05:50:07 PM  
Watch out people I know many younger voters (low information ones) who wrongly think Rand Paul is some sort of civil libertarian. And when I explained to them he is actually against things like Gay Marriage or believes we should use drones domestically for policing their heads explode and tell me I am wrong.

Many people believe Rand Paul stands for what they wish he stood for instead of actually what he does. And that would be dangerous in an election.
 
2013-08-08 05:50:49 PM  
well, that's one way to go through life.
 
2013-08-08 05:51:15 PM  
Chris Matthews said Rand Paul will be the GOP nominee in 2016, followed by "Count on it. I do this for a living".

Only part of the show I saw, but DAMN if he didn't make me do a spit take. Thanks for the laugh, Mr. Hardball...
 
2013-08-08 05:51:48 PM  
Biding his time, waiting for a better opportunity. Patience! Must have patience.

Reminds me of Louie Anderson in Coming to America.

schoolisnotforme.com

See, now, I'm washing lettuce. Pretty soon, I'll be making the fries. And thats when the big bucks start rolling in.
 
2013-08-08 05:57:12 PM  
Isn't holding your nose just a basic strategy in KY politics?
 
2013-08-08 05:58:03 PM  
Please for FFS run Rand Paul GOP. His positions and comments will undo him nicely. Any half-ass moderator should easily make this guy drool pablum simply by getting him to pin down his views.
 
2013-08-08 06:00:58 PM  

Dahnkster: Please for FFS run Rand Paul GOP. His positions and comments will undo him nicely. Any half-ass moderator should easily make this guy drool pablum simply by getting him to pin down his views.


There are plenty in the GOP who actually believe they just need a MORE "conservative" candidate to win. Never mind that their own primary voters rejected that idea. If they can just get someone further to the right, they'll win!!!

Hope some far righty gets the nod, so I can point and laugh at the carnage...
 
2013-08-08 06:05:13 PM  

Dahnkster: Please for FFS run Rand Paul GOP. His positions and comments will undo him nicely. Any half-ass moderator should easily make this guy drool pablum simply by getting him to pin down his views.


Remember the Maddow interview with Paul after he won the senate? 20 minutes of him saying I would have voted against the Civil Rights Act, but I would not really voted against it because that would be look like a racist asshat. And I am not totally not racist, but seriously making a private business open to the general public serve everyone is government tyranny.
 
2013-08-08 06:05:15 PM  
If Hilary Clinton had a grapefruit size brain tumor sticking out of her forehead and honey boo boo was her VP candidate, I would vote for the tumor over rand Paul.
 
2013-08-08 06:06:16 PM  
You know a party is dying from the inside when the campaign manager of the Republican Minority Leader in the Senate doesn't even have the professionalism to keep his mouth shut and do his job the right way.
 
2013-08-08 06:06:21 PM  

mediablitz: Hope some far righty gets the nod, so I can point and laugh at the carnage...


I do too. some crazy wack job like Santorum who goes down in flames that then gives a wake up call to these idiots.
 
2013-08-08 06:11:47 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Alf Landon actually holds the record for the least number of EC votes received


i.imgur.com

R.I.P.   I CAN"T BELIEVE THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE ALREADY

 
2013-08-08 06:12:11 PM  
"It is truly sick that someone would record a private phone conversation I had out of kindness and use it to try to hurt me," he said.

My favorite part of the whole thing is the way the little weasel squirms when he's under a hot light.
 
2013-08-08 06:12:40 PM  
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn. McConnell basically has to fire him or look weak on top it.
 
2013-08-08 06:16:11 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn. McConnell basically has to fire him or look weak on top it.


Hmmm.

What are the odds makers in Vegas saying?  I got five bucks on "looking weak."
 
2013-08-08 06:18:41 PM  
I can't wait for the redux by all the RON PAUL! nutters who spent the entire Repub primary cycle insisting their guy was a front-runner with a legitemate shot.  Who can forget such golden moments as "The media is suppressing his poll numbers!" and "The GOP is afraid because they know RON PAUL will take the nomination" and "RON PAUL would have won Iowa if it wasn't for (insert bogus rationalization)!" "The majority of Americans support RON PAUL for President!"

Some great adn hilarious examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey3Hk3RlR0A
http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2011/05/10-reasons-ron-paul-can-win- i n-2012.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/234986/independent-ron-paul-wins-2012-presid e ntial-election
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robin-koerner/how-ron-paul-can-win-on-a _ b_1098770.html

I fully expect that we'll see a nearly verbatim repeat of all those same talking points, right up to the moment where their guy takes 2.5% of the popular vote and fades into anonymous ignominy.

Remember, the more a group has to tell you they represent the majority viewpoint, the less likely that is to be the case.
 
2013-08-08 06:22:11 PM  
Hey, if we (the country) get really lucky, Paul will not run for re-election to the Senate in '16, throwing all-in for the GOP nomination.

And second best, he will lose the nomination, and thereby be forced to fight a last-minute battle for re-election to the Senate.

This could be extremely lulz-worthy.
 
2013-08-08 06:30:19 PM  
"How dare someone hold something I said against me!!"
 
2013-08-08 06:33:20 PM  

Highroller48: would have won Iowa


Err...would "not" have won...
 
2013-08-08 06:33:34 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The only thing that Rand Paul 2016 might do is finally beat Mondale's record for the lowest number of EC votes in a Presidential election.


/please, proceed


I don't think that's ever going to happen.  He's could take a painting of Reagan painted by the guy Hannity paid $300k to, put in on the ground, place a cross in the center, and take a steaming dump on it, and he'd still win UT, MS, WY, and KS at the very least.

So no record, but yeah...he'd lose in hilarious fashion.
 
2013-08-08 06:40:52 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: The GOP is just determined to implode, isn't it?


I fear that might be their plan after all. The GOP disintegrates (and naturally blames it on the Democrats) and the Tea Party swoops in the fill the void.

Damn, I knew I should have applied for permanent residence status in Australia a few years ago. Dual citizenship might come in handy.
 
2013-08-08 06:51:20 PM  
I somehow read the headline as Mitch Conner

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2013-08-08 06:52:42 PM  

Corvus: mediablitz: Hope some far righty gets the nod, so I can point and laugh at the carnage...

I do too. some crazy wack job like Santorum who goes down in flames that then gives a wake up call to these idiots.


It really is the only way. Although with the gerrymandered districts, it will take several more years to get the crazy out of the House of Reps. No sooner than 2018, if I recall correctly.
 
2013-08-08 06:56:13 PM  
Really?  THIS far into the comments and I'm the only one who brings AQUA BUDDHA to the table?
 
2013-08-08 07:00:27 PM  
This is the political equivalent of badmouthing a boss on Facebook.  "It was meant to be private!"

I blame Griggs v. Duke for banning job application IQ tests.
 
2013-08-08 07:11:14 PM  

Corvus: Watch out people I know many younger voters (low information ones) who wrongly think Rand Paul is some sort of civil libertarian. And when I explained to them he is actually against things like Gay Marriage or believes we should use drones domestically for policing their heads explode and tell me I am wrong.

Many people believe Rand Paul stands for what they wish he stood for instead of actually what he does. And that would be dangerous in an election.


This is so true.  In their defense they probably received a newsletter or e-mail from Rand Paul (or an "over zealous staffer" of Rand Paul), telling them exactly when they want to hear with a donation solicitation.  That is how his dad does it; and as the old saying goes, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree".
 
2013-08-08 07:12:02 PM  

Somacandra: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Alf Landon actually holds the record for the least number of EC votes received

[i.imgur.com image 425x632]

R.I.P.   I CAN"T BELIEVE THIS HASN'T BEEN DONE ALREADY


Alf is the Paula Deen of 80s puppets.

/look it up
 
2013-08-08 07:24:11 PM  
So Rand Paul is the great white hope for the GOP in 2016? I can't imagine who he would pick as his VP though he might have to throw a bone to the fundamentalists with someone like Santorum or Huckabee (which would make the general election fail even more spectacular).
 
2013-08-08 07:36:33 PM  

Corvus: Many people believe Rand Paul stands for what they wish he stood for instead of actually what he does. And that would be dangerous in an election.


I don't I think Rand Paul is smart enough to hide his unpopular positions if he found himself in the spotlight the nominee has to stand, mainly because he doesn't understand why his unpopular positions are unpopular. Eventually he will be asked a tough question and he'll answer it truthfully.
 
2013-08-08 07:39:46 PM  

Befuddled: So Rand Paul is the great white hope for the GOP in 2016? I can't imagine who he would pick as his VP though he might have to throw a bone to the fundamentalists with someone like Santorum or Huckabee (which would make the general election fail even more spectacular).


Santorum will be the nominee. He was the runner up last time. That is how the GOP does things. And they aren't ones to break with tradition...
 
2013-08-08 07:40:36 PM  

Captain Dan: This is the political equivalent of badmouthing a boss on Facebook.  "It was meant to be private!"

I blame Griggs v. Duke for banning job application IQ tests.


Meh. It's not like IQ tests mean anything. It's just noise.

That said, I'm in agreement on the analogy. He certainly thought it was said in confidence and used that secrecy to expose his honest feelings. He's screwed. And I think Mitch is in more trouble now than he was yesterday.
 
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