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(Guardian)   500 "new" fairy tales discovered in Germany. Disney corporation stocks rocket on news of new mother lode of Public Domain property to exploit mercilessly   (theguardian.com ) divider line
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2013-08-08 11:51:02 AM  
Well when do we get to get our hands on them???!!! Did I miss that part?!
 
2013-08-08 11:57:51 AM  
Wolves in the Netherlands, fairy tales in Germany, ghost thieves in Sweden--the folklore weirdness trifecta is now complete and it isn't even Friday yet.
 
2013-08-08 12:00:23 PM  
Sounds cool, but I get excited when I learn of previously unreleased Hendrix songs and am disappointed every time.
 
2013-08-08 02:02:22 PM  
The Stinkiest Princess
The Tortoise and the Whore
The Boy who Picked his Pimples too much
The Little Pervert who Could
The Old Woman and the Very High-Fiber Breakfast
Goldilocks and the Three Twinks
Jack and the Really Sticky Booger
Rumpleforeskin
Snow White and the Seven Samurai
Prince Brown Eye and his Magical Lance
The Crack Whore's Apprentice
Hansel and Grendel
The Goblin who Never Changed his Underpants
 
2013-08-08 02:07:33 PM  
Great headline, that was exactly my first thought reading this news.

Still, pretty cool.
 
2013-08-08 02:08:46 PM  
Thumbs up, Subby.
 
2013-08-08 02:09:35 PM  
Exploit, and  then claim copyright on.  You missed one bit  Subby.
 
2013-08-08 02:09:51 PM  
German fairy tales tend to be pretty dark. Like Grimms'. I'd love to see Disney try.
 
2013-08-08 02:10:33 PM  
I've always wondered why Disney hasn't tried to adapt "East of the Sun and West of the Moon" or "The Twelve Dancing Princesses" for their media stable. Maybe the odd talking dead horse's head, red-hot iron shoes or people eaten by wolves has put them off. But who wouldn't want to see a evil stepsister with a nose and chin three ells long?
 
2013-08-08 02:11:15 PM  
Meh, Disney's having too easy of a time raping their past material and pimping teenieboppers to bother.
 
2013-08-08 02:11:25 PM  
i976.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-08 02:11:33 PM  
So, the creationists now have some new material for their......"science"?
 
2013-08-08 02:11:34 PM  
Er wait, yeah, they've already used some of Grimms' stories.

/i'll show myself out
 
2013-08-08 02:14:00 PM  
King Golden Hair.....Of F*ck Island?
 
2013-08-08 02:14:06 PM  
It's not like Disney were faithful to the originals.
 
2013-08-08 02:14:24 PM  
Considering a native German coworker used to tell me about how they looked for the body louse with the golden shoes, I can hardly wait to read these stories...
 
2013-08-08 02:14:28 PM  
Maybe now I will get to see a Disney princess in a Dirdl

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2013-08-08 02:16:25 PM  
The article is dated March 5, 2012. Updates?
 
2013-08-08 02:16:38 PM  
wasn't Star Wars and Marvel enough for those bastards?
 
2013-08-08 02:16:56 PM  

KimNorth: Well when do we get to get our hands on them???!!! Did I miss that part?!


It's here but only available in German right now.
 
2013-08-08 02:20:50 PM  
Fairy tales can't be locked away and become standards purely because they've been locked away. It takes centuries of nonverbal and verbal interpretations and misinterpretations for them to become lore.
 
2013-08-08 02:22:44 PM  

FloydA: The Stinkiest Princess
The Tortoise and the Whore
The Boy who Picked his Pimples too much
The Little Pervert who Could
The Old Woman and the Very High-Fiber Breakfast
Goldilocks and the Three Twinks
Jack and the Really Sticky Booger
Rumpleforeskin
Snow White and the Seven Samurai
Prince Brown Eye and his Magical Lance
The Crack Whore's Apprentice
Hansel and Grendel
The Goblin who Never Changed his Underpants


It's Germany.

The Prissiest Princess
The Banker and the Hare
The Boy Who Cried Jew
The Little Engine That Could Take The Jews to Auschwitz
The Old Woman Who Lived With A Jew
Goldilocks And The Three Jews
Jack And The Bitter Herbs
Rumpleforeskin (only one you got right)
Snow White And The Seven CPAs
The Prince and His Jewgold Possessions
The Rabbi's Executioner
Himmler and Goring
The Goblins Who Stole German Wealth
 
2013-08-08 02:23:45 PM  
 there is the tale of a maiden who escapes a witch by transforming herself into a pond. The witch then lies on her stomach and drinks all the water, swallowing the young girl, who uses a knife to cut her way out of the witch

How did the maiden get the knife?  Otherwise, I find the tale highly believable.
 
2013-08-08 02:24:37 PM  

odinsposse: KimNorth: Well when do we get to get our hands on them???!!! Did I miss that part?!

It's here but only available in German right now.


If you feel the need to read fairy tales, there are plenty available now.

The federal budget
Ryan Seacrest's list of possible girlfriends
The GOP party platform
Why women love men
Why men love women
Why cats love men and women...
 
2013-08-08 02:25:03 PM  
kmlockwood.com

Krampus is all up in this mofo.
 
2013-08-08 02:25:13 PM  
Wrong, subby.
 FTFA: the collection also includes local versions of the tales children all over the world have grown up with including Cinderella and Rumpelstiltskin

Also:

 For example, there is the tale of a maiden who escapes a witch by transforming herself into a pond. The witch then lies on her stomach and drinks all the water, swallowing the young girl, who uses a knife to cut her way out of the witch.


Yep. Disney's all over that one
 
2013-08-08 02:25:13 PM  
www.serenitystreetnews.com
 
2013-08-08 02:26:09 PM  
Sweet, now Grimm has plenty of more source material for Season 4-7!
 
2013-08-08 02:29:52 PM  
ecx.images-amazon.com
I blame Sergei.
 
2013-08-08 02:37:30 PM  
Disney corporation stocks rocket on news of new mother lode of Public Domain property to exploit mercilessly

You forgot to add "while taking the illustrations/name changes of all of it that they will do and copyrighting all of it to the point no one can use the original w/o getting a SLAPP suit."
 
2013-08-08 02:37:41 PM  
 
2013-08-08 02:38:21 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: German fairy tales tend to be pretty dark. Like Grimms'. I'd love to see Disney try.


Alice's adventure through the looking glass were pretty damn dark yet Disney took it and ran. Sleepy Hollow, The Black Cauldron, and a lot of their earlier stuff had a dark streak as well.
 
2013-08-08 02:38:33 PM  
i don't know about you guys, but i'm rooting for the turnip princess

/ if you know what i mean, and i think you do
 
2013-08-08 02:40:54 PM  

ReverendJynxed: J. Frank Parnell: German fairy tales tend to be pretty dark. Like Grimms'. I'd love to see Disney try.

Alice's adventure through the looking glass were pretty damn dark yet Disney took it and ran. Sleepy Hollow, The Black Cauldron, and a lot of their earlier stuff had a dark streak as well.


pretty much all fairie tales are dark.  then disney takes all the horror out of the tale and gives it a happy ending.
 
2013-08-08 02:41:12 PM  

A Leaf in Fall: Sweet, now Grimm has plenty of more source material for Season 4-7!


Welp, let's go all in:

Hey guys!  500 new episodes of Charmed!  Fat Piper gonna biatch at you!
 
2013-08-08 02:46:09 PM  
We're probably safe - I doubt old German fairy tales were formulaic and reeking of egalitarianism, environmentalism, and fail.
 
2013-08-08 02:46:23 PM  

pute kisses like a man: ReverendJynxed: J. Frank Parnell: German fairy tales tend to be pretty dark. Like Grimms'. I'd love to see Disney try.

Alice's adventure through the looking glass were pretty damn dark yet Disney took it and ran. Sleepy Hollow, The Black Cauldron, and a lot of their earlier stuff had a dark streak as well.

pretty much all fairie tales are dark.  then disney takes all the horror out of the tale and gives it a happy ending.


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I know, huh...
 
2013-08-08 02:46:26 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: German fairy tales tend to be pretty dark. Like Grimms'. I'd love to see Disney try.


Just like Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Frog Prince, Rapunzel, etc.

Disney just can't make versions of the Grimm Fairey Tales.
 
2013-08-08 02:47:46 PM  

pute kisses like a man: i don't know about you guys, but i'm rooting for the turnip princess

/ if you know what i mean, and i think you do


I see what you did there.
 
2013-08-08 02:49:27 PM  
i350.photobucket.com
LOVED that show as a kid
 
2013-08-08 02:50:13 PM  

FloydA: The Stinkiest Princess
The Tortoise and the Whore
The Boy who Picked his Pimples too much
The Little Pervert who Could
The Old Woman and the Very High-Fiber Breakfast
Goldilocks and the Three Twinks
Jack and the Really Sticky Booger
Rumpleforeskin
Snow White and the Seven Samurai
Prince Brown Eye and his Magical Lance
The Crack Whore's Apprentice
Hansel and Grendel
The Goblin who Never Changed his Underpants


This needs to be written now
 
2013-08-08 02:50:25 PM  

MemeSlave: We're probably safe - I doubt old German fairy tales were formulaic and reeking of egalitarianism, environmentalism, and fail.


The formula is entirely based on old German fairey tales. Which were cleaned up by Disney and others.
 
2013-08-08 02:50:52 PM  
 
2013-08-08 02:53:08 PM  

phillydrifter: [i976.photobucket.com image 204x302]


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"Except for that time during WW2 when he made the Israeli propaganda film, 'ashkeNazi supermen are our superiors'"
 
2013-08-08 03:06:37 PM  
Disney corporation stocks rocket on news of new list of 500 names they can paste on the same stupid sexist ultra-conservative board-developed set of three scripts they've been selling us for the past ten years, you mean.
 
2013-08-08 03:12:27 PM  
theorellior: I've always wondered why Disney hasn't tried to adapt "East of the Sun and West of the Moon" or "The Twelve Dancing Princesses" for their media stable. Maybe the odd talking dead horse's head, red-hot iron shoes or people eaten by wolves has put them off. But who wouldn't want to see a evil stepsister with a nose and chin three ells long?


Way back in the early-1980s, Don Bluth strongly considered East of the Sun and West of the Moon for his studio's second feature, as a follow-up to The Secret of NIMH. However, animation for the Dragon's Lair and Space Ace video games delayed the start of production on the film -- and by the time those were completed, Steven Spielberg had come calling with his own animated feature idea: An American Tail ... making Bluth's East of the Sun and West of the Moon one of those "lost" films that never happened. -_-
 
2013-08-08 03:15:30 PM  
500 new public domain stories that Disney will sue the shiat out of anyone who dares use them, because Disney owns all rights to all fairy tales.
 
2013-08-08 03:16:34 PM  
If it's not Wilhelm Busch or Heinrich Hoffmann, I'm not interested.
2.bp.blogspot.com
www.gutenberg.org
/ah, fond memories of a grisly german childhood
 
2013-08-08 03:17:37 PM  

FloydA: The Stinkiest Princess
The Tortoise and the Whore
The Boy who Picked his Pimples too much
The Little Pervert who Could
The Old Woman and the Very High-Fiber Breakfast
Goldilocks and the Three Twinks
Jack and the Really Sticky Booger
Rumpleforeskin
Snow White and the Seven Samurai
Prince Brown Eye and his Magical Lance
The Crack Whore's Apprentice
Hansel and Grendel
The Goblin who Never Changed his Underpants


Are these all porn parodies? Do they all already exist?

//afraid to google these
 
2013-08-08 03:19:48 PM  

Arkanaut: FloydA: The Stinkiest Princess
The Tortoise and the Whore
The Boy who Picked his Pimples too much
The Little Pervert who Could
The Old Woman and the Very High-Fiber Breakfast
Goldilocks and the Three Twinks
Jack and the Really Sticky Booger
Rumpleforeskin
Snow White and the Seven Samurai
Prince Brown Eye and his Magical Lance
The Crack Whore's Apprentice
Hansel and Grendel
The Goblin who Never Changed his Underpants

Are these all porn parodies? Do they all already exist?

//afraid to google these



My favorite was "The Princess who could Pee through 50 Mattresses."
 
2013-08-08 03:21:23 PM  

Elzar: [www.serenitystreetnews.com image 850x870]


what am I looking at?
 
2013-08-08 03:24:56 PM  
As someone who studies fairytale, folklore, and legends from the German and Nordic areas, I find this very exciting.
 
2013-08-08 03:26:08 PM  

unexplained bacon: Elzar: [www.serenitystreetnews.com image 850x870]

what am I looking at?


Irrefutable proof of Walt Disney being such an anti-Semite that he had Hitler's ear fished from the ashes of his bunker and surgically attached to his head. That way he could use some of Adolf's ability to hear what he could Nazi.
 
2013-08-08 03:26:44 PM  
Disney wants to exploit more public domain material so they stomp out this public domain curse once and for all.

(The lawyers actually claimed that no material should ever go without having an owner.)
 
2013-08-08 03:29:03 PM  

unexplained bacon: Elzar: [www.serenitystreetnews.com image 850x870]

what am I looking at?


Hitler and Walt Disney gave their left ears in a pact with the Lords of Chaos, in order to gain power over Melniboné.  DUH!  Isn't it obvious?
 
2013-08-08 03:41:18 PM  
I can't wait for the full translations to come out. Especially since they were written down exactly as heard. You can't ask for a more unique time capsule than that.
 
2013-08-08 03:51:25 PM  

MBooda: /ah, fond memories of a grisly german childhood


Hahahaha. My brother-in-law came up with a children's book that was kinda bleak and had simply awful doggerel for text. He asked me for a critique, and it came out that he'd been inspired by "Max und Moritz" and "The Katzenjammer Kids". When I was gently trying to break it to him that it wasn't going to be an instant hit on the eBook market, he mentioned that the main character died in the original version, so this version should be A-OK.
 
2013-08-08 04:01:53 PM  

netringer: Disney wants to exploit more public domain material so they stomp out this public domain curse once and for all.

(The lawyers actually claimed that no material should ever go without having an owner.)


The only miniscule tiniest bit of understanding I have for Disney when it comes to that kind of litigation is when they take a story that has almost zero popularity/marketability/profitability, then turn it into a multi-hundred million dollar enterprise where they themselves get ripped off by obvious spinoffs of Disney-styled work.
It just makes the lawyers job simple when they can point to specific ownership and license agreements.  Disney or not, that's just a lazy legal team wanting an easier job.
 
2013-08-08 04:08:41 PM  
*glasses on*

...what a Grimm find.
 
2013-08-08 04:20:22 PM  

Outlaw2097: *glasses on*

...what a Grimm find.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-08-08 04:52:00 PM  
What really POs me is how the great classics become "Disney" classics:

Disney's Alice in Wonderland
Disney's Cinderella
Disney's Bible

They don't even give the name of the real author. Children are probably growing up thinking Disney is the author of Winnie the Pooh and Through the Looking Glass. Children are cut off from the classics, nursary rhymes and centuries of child lore as it is, but with Disney slapping the Fuhrer's name on every work in the public domain, children might not even think of Googling the real books and tales and discovering worlds and universes that haven't been homogenized and appropriated by the machine.

Dammit. It is Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland. I'm sure he would take his name off of the project if he were alive, but then, I'm sure he wouldn't sell the copyright for all the gold in the combined vaults of Disney and Uncle Scrooge.

The workers in the Disney machine are brilliant and their work top rate, but Disney always manages to inject poison into the product. It's like thumbing through old South African tourist magazines in a dentist's office. Something is missing, something is wrong, but you can't quite put your finger on why the happy black and white children playing together in glorious Defecto-Color seem to be so plastic and unreal.

Disney's world is like a casino--there are no clocks.
 
2013-08-08 04:53:11 PM  
Apart from the singing and dancing clocks, of course.
 
2013-08-08 04:54:11 PM  

MBooda: If it's not Wilhelm Busch or Heinrich Hoffmann, I'm not interested.
[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x207]
[www.gutenberg.org image 600x400]
/ah, fond memories of a grisly german childhood


I've been reading both of those to my 4 year old daughter. She likes them but she doesn't care for the Grimms tales. I suspect it's because there aren't enough pictures.
My wife also has an unabridged English translation of Snow White. I've never seen the Disney version but I'm guessing they changed the ending.
 
2013-08-08 05:07:29 PM  

brantgoose: What really POs me is how the great classics become "Disney" classics:

Disney's Alice in Wonderland
Disney's Cinderella
Disney's Bible

They don't even give the name of the real author. Children are probably growing up thinking Disney is the author of Winnie the Pooh and Through the Looking Glass. Children are cut off from the classics, nursary rhymes and centuries of child lore as it is, but with Disney slapping the Fuhrer's name on every work in the public domain, children might not even think of Googling the real books and tales and discovering worlds and universes that haven't been homogenized and appropriated by the machine.

Dammit. It is Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland. I'm sure he would take his name off of the project if he were alive, but then, I'm sure he wouldn't sell the copyright for all the gold in the combined vaults of Disney and Uncle Scrooge.

The workers in the Disney machine are brilliant and their work top rate, but Disney always manages to inject poison into the product. It's like thumbing through old South African tourist magazines in a dentist's office. Something is missing, something is wrong, but you can't quite put your finger on why the happy black and white children playing together in glorious Defecto-Color seem to be so plastic and unreal.

Disney's world is like a casino--there are no clocks.


I think children who grow up unexposed to those classics would remain so with or without Disney. Disney has some right to title them as they do because they stray so far from the source material. The modify the stories so heavily and the lessons implied but the originals that the result is a Disney story with just some of the ideas of character and motif suggested by the classic's title.

Our daughter will read and be read the real materials as she gets up to those ages. She's only 2 now, but I will fully encourage her to read the real things to experience the depth of story from books. She already loves book-time and can handle some pretty long stuff for her age (40-50 page picture/narrative stuff like the Golden Books version of Princess and the Frog, just as an example). She can recite large portions of Horton Hears a Who.

What I am trying to get at is that the parents are the ones holding those children back, not Disney. Disney is making colorful, musical, engaging features that take children to magical places. Do they sanitize and dilute the grittiness? Yes. They aren't trying to be that storyteller, they leave that to others. They still can get scary, see the images I posted earlier of the demon from Fantasia and Mother Gothel's death scene from Tangled.

TL:DR, Your kids will read the books if YOU expose them. If not, at least they'll have SOME reference to classic stories. Don't fault Disney for having a brand and storytelling style.
 
2013-08-08 05:42:10 PM  

Leo Bloom's Freakout: TL:DR, Your kids will read the books if YOU expose them. If not, at least they'll have SOME reference to classic stories. Don't fault Disney for having a brand and storytelling style.


I'll give my kids what I got when I was around 7: the Red and Blue Fairy Books. And more colors as well.
 
2013-08-08 05:59:38 PM  

theorellior: Leo Bloom's Freakout: TL:DR, Your kids will read the books if YOU expose them. If not, at least they'll have SOME reference to classic stories. Don't fault Disney for having a brand and storytelling style.

I'll give my kids what I got when I was around 7: the Red and Blue Fairy Books. And more colors as well.


And that's perfect. I just don't have a problem with Disney doing what they do. I figure the more versions of a story they hear, the more they understand how humans transmit, adapt, and repurpose the same story over and over again. It gives a sense of history, critical thinking, and understanding language.
 
2013-08-08 06:28:37 PM  
Are any of them similar to the Krampus?
 
2013-08-08 06:29:22 PM  
And in next week's news, Disney gets copyright laws extended to one day before these stories were written.
 
2013-08-08 06:59:32 PM  
The original version of "Jack and the Beanstalk" mentions that the basement of the giant's castle was filled with women whom he'd imprisoned because "they wouldn't eat the flesh of their dead husbands."

Or Cinderella, which has the stepsisters slicing off parts of their feet in order to fit into the slipper, but the prince sees through their antics because of the squelching blood.
 
2013-08-08 07:07:16 PM  

Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: Maybe now I will get to see a Disney princess in a Dirdl

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I liked where this thread WAS going..
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...and we all lived happily ever after.
 
2013-08-09 12:36:06 AM  

theorellior: Leo Bloom's Freakout: TL:DR, Your kids will read the books if YOU expose them. If not, at least they'll have SOME reference to classic stories. Don't fault Disney for having a brand and storytelling style.

I'll give my kids what I got when I was around 7: the Red and Blue Fairy Books. And more colors as well.


I won't ever give my kids what I got when I was around 7.  They can go find their own disease-ridden hookers, damnit.
 
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