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(The National Memo)   They may have ticked off young people, women, blacks, Latinos, gays, veterans, Asians, middle-class people, and poor people, but the GOP can count on the support of the elderly...wait, hang on a minute   (nationalmemo.com) divider line 60
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2013-08-08 11:48:23 AM
If you look at the (disgusting and likely an attempt at intimidation) list of NC protestors that have been arrested (list is put up by a group called NC Civitas, and includes name, party registration, town they live in, job, and age), the ages are... interesting.

I would have expected a lot of folks in the 20-40 age range. Instead there's a huge chunk in the 60-80-ish age range.
 
2013-08-08 11:51:38 AM
Does anyone have a better source of data?  I'm not seeing a whole lot there that precludes seniors from dropping out of the GOP and going "independent" with the Tea Party.
 
2013-08-08 11:52:25 AM
Because really only the boomers have enough ignorant ex-hippies to support the "fight the power" conservatism that is the ideological face of the republican party, and generations older than that don't want to get revenge on the government for Vietnam?


//Also not destroying medicare, social security, and basic protection of law.
 
2013-08-08 11:52:42 AM
old people rely on the government, the GOP wants to destroy the government...
 
2013-08-08 11:53:18 AM
So, the ones that aren't dying fast enough are finally running like hell.  That's cool.

I think, by 2016, the only people willing to support the GOP will be the attention-seeking trolls who think they win arguments simply because they piss people off.
 
2013-08-08 11:53:19 AM
We'll see who they actually vote for once the Fearmongering Machine starts rolling out for next year's elections.
 
2013-08-08 11:54:06 AM
Elderly people are the last group of people who saw that "real" America of their youth, and are realizing that the GOP version is nothing like it. They also have this annoying habit of loving their families and wanting to leave this place better for them.
 
2013-08-08 11:59:17 AM
Takers. Every last one of 'em!
 
2013-08-08 12:00:28 PM
Let's start a pool - what percentage of the national vote does the Republican running for President get?

I say 40%
 
2013-08-08 12:00:35 PM
Senior Citizens are still much more likely to be Republicans than Democrats.  Movement of them to the Dems is minimal to nonexistant, unfortuantly.
 
2013-08-08 12:01:22 PM
Obviously, the solution is for the GOP to move further right and cut corporate taxes.
 
2013-08-08 12:02:05 PM

IrateShadow: Does anyone have a better source of data?   I'm not seeing a whole lot there that precludes seniors from dropping out of the GOP and going "independent" with the Tea Party.


Really?

-89 percent of seniors want to protect Medicare benefits and premiums.
-87 percent of seniors want to raise pay for working women.
-79 percent of seniors think we need to expand scholarships for working adults.
-77 percent of seniors want to expand access to high-quality and affordable childcare for working parents.
-74 percent of seniors want to cut subsidies to big oil companies, agribusinesses, and multinational corporations in order to invest in education, infrastructure, and technology.
-66 percent of seniors want to expand state health insurance exchanges under Obamacare.

These don't really seem to be tea party characteristics.
 
2013-08-08 12:02:19 PM
Remember when Paul Ryan and the entire GOP House voted to end MEDICARE as we now enjoy it and then replace it with a voucher system? That was the LAST time my wife voted for a Republican. Which party is working to suppress voting? Which party is trying to defund public education? Which party is privatizing prisons and giving away millions of dollars of state property to private corporations? Which party is firing teachers and state healthcare workers? Which party claims to speak for gun-toting, race-hating, gay-bashing Jesus 2.0?  I know I'm not suppose to feel this way...but seriously, fark these guys with a rusty spoon.
 
2013-08-08 12:02:56 PM
My mamma voted for Obama! Twice! And she is 68 years old!

!!!
 
2013-08-08 12:03:03 PM

hobberwickey: Let's start a pool - what percentage of the national vote does the Republican running for President get?

I say 40%


Nope, American populace still stupid, media still pro-horse race.  45% or more certain.
 
2013-08-08 12:04:16 PM

IrateShadow: Does anyone have a better source of data?  I'm not seeing a whole lot there that precludes seniors from dropping out of the GOP and going "independent" with the Tea Party.


Most of the individual issues discussed (Medicare and Social Security in particular) would suggest otherwise, as the TP is leading the charge to defund/privatize them. They basically hate ALL government, except for the military.

Don't see a lot of these guys switching to democrat, though. But they might just stay home in November, and that would be damage enough.
 
2013-08-08 12:04:27 PM

theknuckler_33: Really?

-89 percent of seniors want to protect Medicare benefits and premiums.
-87 percent of seniors want to raise pay for working women.
-79 percent of seniors think we need to expand scholarships for working adults.
-77 percent of seniors want to expand access to high-quality and affordable childcare for working parents.
-74 percent of seniors want to cut subsidies to big oil companies, agribusinesses, and multinational corporations in order to invest in education, infrastructure, and technology.
-66 percent of seniors want to expand state health insurance exchanges under Obamacare.


These don't really seem to be tea party characteristics.


If we looked at it from the standpoint that people are willing to vote in their own self-interest, the GOP would only get about 10% of the vote maximum.  I'm sorry, but the US is full of low-information voters, and a lot of them are seniors.
 
2013-08-08 12:04:59 PM

Felgraf: If you look at the (disgusting and likely an attempt at intimidation) list of NC protestors that have been arrested (list is put up by a group called NC Civitas, and includes name, party registration, town they live in, job, and age), the ages are... interesting.

I would have expected a lot of folks in the 20-40 age range. Instead there's a huge chunk in the 60-80-ish age range.


Disgusting in what fashion?
 
2013-08-08 12:06:08 PM

hobberwickey: Let's start a pool - what percentage of the national vote does the Republican running for President get?

I say 40%


Realistically, way too low.  Heck, Romney got 47.2% and McCain got 45.7%.
 
2013-08-08 12:07:02 PM
Just a rough, Wild-@$$ed guess here, but I'd say that by trying to screw around with medical care, the GOTP has convinced a lot of seniors who might have ignored politics and happily voted Republican to actually start looking at issues, candidates, and voting records.  And they did NOT like what they saw.

/ (full disclosure here.  I just turned 59.  I don't think of myself as a 'Senior'.  Lifelong Republican, but for over two decades now, there has not been enough money on the planet to get me to vote for an (R).  Stay with the party because they occasionally send me surveys and questionnaires, and I never miss a chance to tear them a new @$$hole.  Clean up your own house before you complain about anyone else, you pieces of shiat.)
 
2013-08-08 12:08:54 PM

theknuckler_33: Takers. Every last one of 'em!


This is true! Senior citizens are a large part of Romney's 47%.


FTA: 66 percent of seniors want to expand state health insurance exchanges under Obamacare.

When 66% of senior citizens want to expand Obamacare you're in real trouble, GOP.
 
2013-08-08 12:09:49 PM

Mercutio74: theknuckler_33: Really?

-89 percent of seniors want to protect Medicare benefits and premiums.
-87 percent of seniors want to raise pay for working women.
-79 percent of seniors think we need to expand scholarships for working adults.
-77 percent of seniors want to expand access to high-quality and affordable childcare for working parents.
-74 percent of seniors want to cut subsidies to big oil companies, agribusinesses, and multinational corporations in order to invest in education, infrastructure, and technology.
-66 percent of seniors want to expand state health insurance exchanges under Obamacare.


These don't really seem to be tea party characteristics.

If we looked at it from the standpoint that people are willing to vote in their own self-interest, the GOP would only get about 10% of the vote maximum.  I'm sorry, but the US is full of low-information voters, and a lot of them are seniors.


Agreed, but that hardly supports the notion that TFA is just wishful liberal thinking covering up a move from Republican self-identification to Independent-but-really-tea-party. Even a SMALL move by seniors away from the GOP would be devastating considering how much of their constituency they constitute. The GOP electorate was motivated as hell in 2012 and still lost by 5 million votes. If seniors' opinions about the GOP even mildly cause people to stay at home or, worse, vote D... well fuhgeddaboudit!
 
2013-08-08 12:11:39 PM
Clarification: The last sentence of my previous post was a distillation of what I tell the GOTP whenever they ask me for my opinion.
 
2013-08-08 12:13:15 PM
Amazing, all these people are turning away from the GOP, yet they still win elections. It's almost like the GOP knows how to cater to the people that actually vote.
 
2013-08-08 12:13:16 PM
When great grandmas have to spend $140 for a passport to vote, since two-hour lines at the state DMV for an ID card are out the door and it's 100° you know GOP has old people on their hit list.
 
2013-08-08 12:14:13 PM

Wellon Dowd: My mamma voted for Obama! Twice! And she is 68 years old!

!!!


My Grandmother is 92. Doesn't vote anymore, sadly, but she told me she would have voted for Obama.

/love that old girl!
 
2013-08-08 12:16:17 PM

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Clarification: The last sentence of my previous post was a distillation of what I tell the GOTP whenever they ask me for my opinion.


GOTP?
 
2013-08-08 12:20:55 PM

Geotpf: hobberwickey: Let's start a pool - what percentage of the national vote does the Republican running for President get?

I say 40%

Realistically, way too low.  Heck, Romney got 47.2% and McCain got 45.7%.


ikanreed: hobberwickey: Let's start a pool - what percentage of the national vote does the Republican running for President get?

I say 40%

Nope, American populace still stupid, media still pro-horse race.  45% or more certain.


I'm predicting a Tea Party candidate that takes at least 5-8% of the Republican vote. You've got to factor in the derp.
 
2013-08-08 12:22:55 PM
Maybe the GOP's move to drop even the pretense of not being cynical, dishonest, self-serving, and basically EVIL was a not such a good idea after all.
 
2013-08-08 12:27:03 PM

The Gentleman Caller: They also have this annoying habit of loving their families and wanting to leave this place better for them.


The GOP really started to lose them with their Medicare plan, which basically said "We are going to screw over your children and grand-children, but you'll be OK, so vote for us!"
 
2013-08-08 12:30:03 PM

MrBallou: Maybe the GOP's move to drop even the pretense of not being cynical, dishonest, self-serving, and basically EVIL was a not such a good idea after all.


From the comments: Teto85 hjs3
• 35 minutes ago

That's the problem. They have no shame and they show no embarrassment because they believe they are not doing anything wrong.


This.
 
2013-08-08 12:30:14 PM
Get back to me after the next couple of election cycles. The GOP has these old idiots scared shiatless, and until more of these damn boomers die off, ain't nothing going to change.
 
2013-08-08 12:30:31 PM

Geotpf: hobberwickey: Let's start a pool - what percentage of the national vote does the Republican running for President get?

I say 40%

Realistically, way too low. Heck, Romney got 47.2% and McCain got 45.7%.


Lets say 10% of seniors are bigots and would never vote for a black guy.  Let's say half of the senior bigots would have voted Republican for ideological reasons.  That would put the Ronmey vote at 42.2% and McCain at 40.7%.
 
2013-08-08 12:33:15 PM

Felgraf: If you look at the (disgusting and likely an attempt at intimidation) list of NC protestors that have been arrested (list is put up by a group called NC Civitas, and includes name, party registration, town they live in, job, and age), the ages are... interesting.

I would have expected a lot of folks in the 20-40 age range. Instead there's a huge chunk in the 60-80-ish age range.


Why surprised? A lot of those were protesting in the 60's and have a good sense of knowing when something is wrong and it should be fought against.

20-somethings these days care more about Justin Bieber taking a dump in some woman's shoes.
 
2013-08-08 12:33:57 PM

hobberwickey: I'm predicting a Tea Party candidate that takes at least 5-8% of the Republican vote. You've got to factor in the derp.


There is no Tea Party candidate.  They vote Republican.
 
2013-08-08 12:34:58 PM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Clarification: The last sentence of my previous post was a distillation of what I tell the GOTP whenever they ask me for my opinion.

GOTP?


I'm guessing Grand Old Tea Party.
 
2013-08-08 12:39:40 PM
Hell, the GOP even lost the rednecks...

graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-08-08 12:40:16 PM

2wolves: Felgraf: If you look at the (disgusting and likely an attempt at intimidation) list of NC protestors that have been arrested (list is put up by a group called NC Civitas, and includes name, party registration, town they live in, job, and age), the ages are... interesting.

I would have expected a lot of folks in the 20-40 age range. Instead there's a huge chunk in the 60-80-ish age range.

Disgusting in what fashion?


Disgusting in that they are basically, as far as I can tell, trying to intimidate the protestors/help people figure out where they live and where they work. (They list arrested protestor's town, job, age, full name, and voter registration. And their photo.)

And it's run by an organization largely bankrolled by the current (GOP) treasurer of NC. It just really rubs me the wrong way. It feels a lot like a "Oh no we TOTALLY don't encourage harassment or intimidation of these people. Nope! Would TOTALLY be a shame if something like that happened. Would someone rid me of this meddlesome priest?"
 
2013-08-08 12:40:51 PM
The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Nicholas D. Wolfwood:Clarification: The last sentence of my previous post was a distillation of what I tell the GOTP whenever they ask me for my opinion.

GOTP?


As mentioned above, yes, it is a conflation of GOP and Tea Party, to acknowledge that those two groups are joined at the hip, as it were,.
 
2013-08-08 12:43:32 PM

Johnny Swank: Get back to me after the next couple of election cycles. The GOP has these old idiots scared shiatless, and until more of these damn boomers die off, ain't nothing going to change.


I'm one of those "old idiots" AND a Democrat. Your argument is invalid.
 
2013-08-08 12:56:21 PM
Just before the election in 2012 I had my hair cut by the owner of La Flamme Barbershop, the gloriously old fashioned barbershop in Harvard Square. An elderly Greek man, I asked him who he planned on voting for in the upcoming election. "Obama," he said. I asked why. His answer was that Romney kept badmouthing Greece and the Greeks. "If we don't do this, we will end up like Greece. If we don't do that, we will end up like Greece. This man does not like Greeks." I then asked if he had cut either man's hair. "Oh, yes, both of them." And how were the tips? "Obama tipped well. Romney, no tip."

So there you have it, a 3 million strong demographic out the window because Romney couldn't resist making fun of the sick man of Europe.  If you can only make yourself feel better by badmouthing other groups, be they Greeks, Hispanics, women, the elderly or the "47%," it will come back to bite you on the ass. That is an important lesson the repubs seem incapable of learning.
 
2013-08-08 12:56:50 PM

Felgraf: 2wolves: Felgraf: If you look at the (disgusting and likely an attempt at intimidation) list of NC protestors that have been arrested (list is put up by a group called NC Civitas, and includes name, party registration, town they live in, job, and age), the ages are... interesting.

I would have expected a lot of folks in the 20-40 age range. Instead there's a huge chunk in the 60-80-ish age range.

Disgusting in what fashion?

Disgusting in that they are basically, as far as I can tell, trying to intimidate the protestors/help people figure out where they live and where they work. (They list arrested protestor's town, job, age, full name, and voter registration. And their photo.)

And it's run by an organization largely bankrolled by the current (GOP) treasurer of NC. It just really rubs me the wrong way. It feels a lot like a "Oh no we TOTALLY don't encourage harassment or intimidation of these people. Nope! Would TOTALLY be a shame if something like that happened. Would someone rid me of this meddlesome priest?"


Ah, I misread your initial comment.  My apologies.
 
2013-08-08 12:59:01 PM

Felgraf: 2wolves: Felgraf: If you look at the (disgusting and likely an attempt at intimidation) list of NC protestors that have been arrested (list is put up by a group called NC Civitas, and includes name, party registration, town they live in, job, and age), the ages are... interesting.

I would have expected a lot of folks in the 20-40 age range. Instead there's a huge chunk in the 60-80-ish age range.

Disgusting in what fashion?

Disgusting in that they are basically, as far as I can tell, trying to intimidate the protestors/help people figure out where they live and where they work. (They list arrested protestor's town, job, age, full name, and voter registration. And their photo.)

And it's run by an organization largely bankrolled by the current (GOP) treasurer of NC. It just really rubs me the wrong way. It feels a lot like a "Oh no we TOTALLY don't encourage harassment or intimidation of these people. Nope! Would TOTALLY be a shame if something like that happened. Would someone rid me of this meddlesome priest?"


It's also just like the gun owner database that newspaper put out a few months ago. But I heard the NC thing backfired because conservatives were claiming these were outside agitators, but the records proved the vast majority were locals.
 
2013-08-08 12:59:37 PM
They forgot to mention the disabled population. GOP has it in for them too.
 
2013-08-08 01:01:09 PM

Geotpf: hobberwickey: Let's start a pool - what percentage of the national vote does the Republican running for President get?

I say 40%

Realistically, way too low.  Heck, Romney got 47.2% and McCain got 45.7%.


Romney ran an even worse campaign than McCain and did better?

What the fark?
 
2013-08-08 01:51:21 PM

NeverDrunk23: Geotpf: hobberwickey: Let's start a pool - what percentage of the national vote does the Republican running for President get?

I say 40%

Realistically, way too low.  Heck, Romney got 47.2% and McCain got 45.7%.

Romney ran an even worse campaign than McCain and did better?

What the fark?


www.bubblews.com
 
2013-08-08 02:01:57 PM

offmymeds: Johnny Swank: Get back to me after the next couple of election cycles. The GOP has these old idiots scared shiatless, and until more of these damn boomers die off, ain't nothing going to change.

I'm one of those "old idiots" AND a Democrat. Your argument is invalid.


Both my living grandparents (as of 2008) were Obama supporters - and this just a few short months after my grandfather thought he was a Muslim who hated Israel.

And now they're both dead. Thanks, Obama.
 
2013-08-08 02:22:29 PM

Wellon Dowd: My mamma voted for Obama! Twice! And she is 68 years old!



Typical Democrat, voting twice.

/joke
 
2013-08-08 03:06:50 PM

Dinki: The GOP really started to lose them with their Medicare plan, which basically said "We are going to screw over your children and grand-children, but you'll be OK, so vote for us!"


The movement to privatize Social Security wasn't particularly popular, either, IIRC. If anything good can be said to have come from the recession, it's that it put that shiattastic idea to rest.
 
2013-08-08 03:58:22 PM
They lost my 85-year-old fox news watching grandmother - and turned her away from the party for good.

See, once our wise governor Deal got elected on his conservative platform, he had to remind her that as a retired government worker, she was a leech and her pension should be raided because anyone who works for the government is a terrible person.

/ This isnt even funny anymore (for many years now)
 
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