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(NBC News)   Deniers: Eh, what harm can "climate change" cause anyway? Well, how about reducing a 700+ pound polar bear to a shriveled, furry rug   (worldnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 245
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2013-08-07 01:46:44 PM  
Sorry, but starving to death on a 200+ mile trek for food, and being found no thicker than a cheap Wal-Mart rug is NOT part of the natural life cycle.

media2.s-nbcnews.com
 
2013-08-07 01:52:05 PM  
If the sharks would quit eating all the seals so they can be on TV, we wouldn't have this problem.
 
2013-08-07 02:13:57 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Sorry, but starving to death on a 200+ mile trek for food, and being found no thicker than a cheap Wal-Mart rug is NOT part of the natural life cycle.


if your false god darwin was right shouldn't polar bears be evolving wings as to avoid such peril?
 
2013-08-07 02:42:14 PM  
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2013-08-07 02:43:42 PM  

doublesecretprobation: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Sorry, but starving to death on a 200+ mile trek for food, and being found no thicker than a cheap Wal-Mart rug is NOT part of the natural life cycle.

if your false god darwin was right shouldn't polar bears be evolving wings as to avoid such peril?


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2013-08-07 02:53:04 PM  
Again, I don't ever question global warming, but this is like pointing to a warm day in December and claiming "This is proof of global warming!"

Weather =/= climate, and one polar bar that starved to death =/= global warming.
 
2013-08-07 02:53:19 PM  
Can I have the rug?
 
2013-08-07 03:08:45 PM  
Small price to pay, really.  Honestly, who wants to hunt them in all that cold?  I'm totally OK with altering the entire planet's atmosphere for that.
 
2013-08-07 03:14:00 PM  
That would look good in front of my fireplace and I don't have to risk getting killed hunting it?  Win-Win.
 
2013-08-07 03:15:58 PM  
www.independentaustralia.net
 
2013-08-07 03:16:29 PM  
If poor people have refrigerators then why can't polar bears get air conditioners?

//it is late in the day and my mind is fading
 
2013-08-07 03:17:04 PM  

doublesecretprobation: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Sorry, but starving to death on a 200+ mile trek for food, and being found no thicker than a cheap Wal-Mart rug is NOT part of the natural life cycle.

if your false god darwin was right shouldn't polar bears be evolving wings as to avoid such peril?


I lol'ed would lol again
 
2013-08-07 03:17:06 PM  
www.duramaxforum.com
 
2013-08-07 03:17:16 PM  
That is pretty sad to look at.
 
2013-08-07 03:17:42 PM  
We're all truly well and farked aren't we?
 
2013-08-07 03:18:40 PM  
As per the usual timeline, we'll give this one 10 days to percolate through the social media before posting the article showing that it had nothing to do with global warming.  That way we can get it ingrained as a troof in the minds of the masses without the need for it being true.
 
2013-08-07 03:18:42 PM  
So... the fact we stopped hunting polar bears but kept hunting their seal foodsource had nothing to do with starvation?

Sealers authorized to kill 408,200 seals, despite a lack of markets
 
2013-08-07 03:19:06 PM  

doublesecretprobation: Grand_Moff_Joseph: Sorry, but starving to death on a 200+ mile trek for food, and being found no thicker than a cheap Wal-Mart rug is NOT part of the natural life cycle.

if your false god darwin was right shouldn't polar bears be evolving wings as to avoid such peril?


Absolutely.  Just like if Herbert Spencer was right, the polar bear died because he was too stupid to start farming.
 
2013-08-07 03:20:05 PM  

Wolfspider: [www.duramaxforum.com image 640x407]


Oh damn. Well done.
 
2013-08-07 03:21:20 PM  
No animal ever starved until global warming. Got it.
 
2013-08-07 03:21:42 PM  

Rincewind53: Again, I don't ever question global warming, but this is like pointing to a warm day in December and claiming "This is proof of global warming!"

Weather =/= climate, and one polar bar that starved to death =/= global warming.


Right, although it sounds like Svalbard has more problems:
"Most of the fjords and inter-island channels in Svalbard did not freeze normally last winter and so many potential areas known to that bear for hunting seals in spring do not appear to have been as productive as in a normal winter," said Stirling, of conservation group Polar Bears International. "As a result the bear likely went looking for food in another area but appears to have been unsuccessful."

So there's probably some more rugs that haven't been discovered yet.
 
2013-08-07 03:22:05 PM  

Rincewind53: Again, I don't ever question global warming, but this is like pointing to a warm day in December and claiming "This is proof of global warming!"

Weather =/= climate, and one polar bar that starved to death =/= global warming.



Climate change = less polar ice
Less polar ice = less hunting grounds for polar bears
Less hunting grounds for polart bears = some polar bears starving to death
so...
Climate change  = some polar bears starving to death
 
2013-08-07 03:22:08 PM  
I immediately started thinking how nice a polar bear rug would probably feel and wondering if one would look good in my house.

I am a bad, bad person.
 
2013-08-07 03:22:15 PM  
Ugh, the opening photo in TFA is just sad. But if that bear had made better life choices, been bootstrappier, and gone to the ER for his healthcare he'd probably be living in a nice gated community somewhere.
 
2013-08-07 03:22:28 PM  

MadSkillz: We're all truly well and farked aren't we?


Just wait until deniers find out that you can't just move agriculture north because the glaciers took all that good soil and dumped it down here.
 
2013-08-07 03:22:40 PM  
 
2013-08-07 03:22:44 PM  
No more immortal polar bears, then?
 
2013-08-07 03:23:00 PM  
so the SUV model bear can't adapt to the new seal market prices. hmm. well.
 
2013-08-07 03:23:14 PM  

monoski: If poor people have refrigerators then why can't polar bears get air conditioners?

//it is late in the day and my mind is fading


If you're trying to mimic teabagger thinking, it really helps.
 
2013-08-07 03:24:12 PM  

domenad: No animal ever starved until global warming. Got it.


Every once in a while, someone goes the extra mile.  They create a strawman argument so incredibly ridiculous that it is brilliant in its absurdity.  You have created such an argument.

10/10
 
2013-08-07 03:24:34 PM  
I suddenly feel less sad for the polar bear I see at SeaWorld that does nothing but sleep all day.
 
2013-08-07 03:25:37 PM  
Maybe it died of old age. They do that you know, they get old and die. Global warming has no say in that, natural selection will cull the weakest.
 
2013-08-07 03:28:31 PM  
I prefer to think that he sacrificed himself for the good of the planet, fighting off a terrible alien scourge.

Since we're making up stories about dead animals we find now, and everything.
 
2013-08-07 03:29:24 PM  
Polar bears see humans as food. Fewer polar bears = safer people.
Many people are young children.
Safer people = safer children.

Global Warming, if it saves the life of just one child it's worth it.
 
2013-08-07 03:30:13 PM  

Carn: domenad: No animal ever starved until global warming. Got it.

Every once in a while, someone goes the extra mile.  They create a strawman argument so incredibly ridiculous that it is brilliant in its absurdity.  You have created such an argument.

10/10



I'd say it was a valid response to the degree of speculation and dubious leaps of logic involved in attributing the death of the bear to global warming.
 
2013-08-07 03:30:42 PM  
Why exactly are polar bears necessary anyway, other than to sell Coca-cola?

Are polar bears protecting us from some other dangerous animal?
 
2013-08-07 03:31:09 PM  

CrazyCracka420: [www.independentaustralia.net image 500x334]


Thank you for this...sums up what I've been trying to tell some of my friends.
 
2013-08-07 03:31:14 PM  
Global warming isn't a myth, but all that aside...yeah this is hardly damning evidence in and of itself. If that was the 50th polar bear they found and they only find 1-2 dead a year...that might be considered more damning, but even then you'd have to determine cause of death first. 'It's skin and bones' doesn't mean that it died because it starved due to global warming. It might have had an injury that wasn't obvious on the corpse that caused it to starve.

And ALL that being said, if the issue is lack of ice to hunt from, could we set up floating platforms to help out? In all seriousness, would that help them or even be reasonably possible?
 
2013-08-07 03:31:45 PM  
i.imgur.com

/1 ticket please.
 
2013-08-07 03:32:16 PM  
Stormborn?
 
2013-08-07 03:33:12 PM  
I heard that bear was a member of the city council and actually went out Michael Hutchence-style.  When his wife found him, she blamed global warming to protect his reputation.
 
2013-08-07 03:34:04 PM  
Maybe he's pining for the fjords.
 
2013-08-07 03:34:42 PM  
And it was 22 degree wind chill on top of Mount Washington two nights ago.
Coulda used a bear skin rug up there.
 
2013-08-07 03:34:44 PM  
 
2013-08-07 03:35:37 PM  
Maybe the polar bear should stop being stupid. If it keeps sleeping all through winter when it's as icy as it can want and decides to be awake during summer when ice obviously melts then it and its entire species deserves to die, or at least that's what liberal Darwinists will tell you.
 
2013-08-07 03:35:54 PM  

Lady Indica: And ALL that being said, if the issue is lack of ice to hunt from, could we set up floating platforms to help out? In all seriousness, would that help them or even be reasonably possible?


I think the trouble is that their hunting technique involves sitting over the holes in the ice that seals use to surface for air. Any platform we could build probably wouldn't be big enough to force the seals to come up under holes in it.
 
2013-08-07 03:36:09 PM  
Soon to join the ranks of the Mastodon, Saber-toothed Tiger, and Woolly Mammoth as a mythical wonder of the past.

"Daddy, tell me about the polar bears again"
 
2013-08-07 03:36:14 PM  
Anecdote is not data.

Also, no bear has ever died on the blasted heath of the tundra before and only a DENIER would believe such a thing.
 
2013-08-07 03:36:20 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Sorry, but starving to death on a 200+ mile trek for food, and being found no thicker than a cheap Wal-Mart rug is NOT part of the natural life cycle.

[media2.s-nbcnews.com image 380x254]


Really? Just how is a 16 year old polar bear supposed to die?
 
2013-08-07 03:36:42 PM  

42_42_42: I immediately started thinking how nice a polar bear rug would probably feel and wondering if one would look good in my house.

I am a bad, bad person.


Stayed at a cabin once where there was a taxidermified polar bear mounted standing up (farking thing was huge). The hair was thick, but pretty coarse. Probably wouldn't be that comfortable...
 
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