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2013-08-07 10:11:38 AM
Not as good as the Delhomme rating.

WHAR JAKE
 
2013-08-07 10:14:10 AM
And Tony Romo is rightly #1 in this ranking.
 
2013-08-07 10:17:37 AM
This whole thing reeks of trying to hard.

Which QBs generate the most nonsense? Here's a bunch of nonsense I made up to decide! Please click it!
 
2013-08-07 10:35:06 AM
Rodgers is overpaid? (Closes window)
 
2013-08-07 10:37:28 AM
Mine makes better sense...

Is the value greater or less than Buttfumble

Getting tired of statistics for the sake of having statistics to analyze because when a team loses to a team that they should not have they pull out the "any given Sunday" card.
 
2013-08-07 10:38:09 AM

js34603: This whole thing reeks of trying to hard.

Which QBs generate the most nonsense? Here's a bunch of nonsense I made up to decide! Please click it!


Yes a primary FO writer is clearly full of nonsense.
 
2013-08-07 10:40:48 AM
Mike Tanier is great. All of you who enjoy football and don't read his articles are doing yourself a disservice.
 
2013-08-07 10:48:13 AM
I believe it.  I think it was Tanier who first unveiled that quarterbacks who run the kneel-down play have an unusually high percentage of wins in the game where the kneel down is executed.  This prompted NFL's top critical thinkers to wonder why more teams are not running this play.
 
2013-08-07 10:48:22 AM
Hey, the last three Falcons QBs are in the Top 6. Pretty impressive for a team no one gives a sh*t about. Schaub could've cracked the Top 5 had he just been a little more successful.
 
2013-08-07 10:49:18 AM

Serious Black: And Tony Romo is rightly #1 in this ranking.


Technically Tim Tebow is, but he didn't feel like calculating it.

thecpt: Rodgers is overpaid? (Closes window)


Flacco, Rodgers, Ryan and Brees are all overpaid according to the scale if I'm reading it properly.  I believe Romo also got the overpaid nod.
 
2013-08-07 10:56:03 AM
How about wins?
 
2013-08-07 11:01:03 AM
QBR is the only quarterback rating that matters. I want to know exactly what's my favorite QBs "clutch index".
 
2013-08-07 11:10:37 AM

degenerate-afro: Serious Black: And Tony Romo is rightly #1 in this ranking.

Technically Tim Tebow is, but he didn't feel like calculating it.

thecpt: Rodgers is overpaid? (Closes window)

Flacco, Rodgers, Ryan and Brees are all overpaid according to the scale if I'm reading it properly.  I believe Romo also got the overpaid nod.


I consider only two of those as over paid. And frankly one of them might actually live up to their contract.
 
2013-08-07 11:15:58 AM

thecpt: Flacco, Rodgers, Ryan and Brees are all overpaid according to the scale if I'm reading it properly.  I believe Romo also got the overpaid nod.

I consider only two of those as over paid. And frankly one of them might actually live up to their contract.


Ryan and Romo?  I guess you believe Ryan will live up to his contract then?
 
2013-08-07 11:18:27 AM

degenerate-afro: thecpt: Flacco, Rodgers, Ryan and Brees are all overpaid according to the scale if I'm reading it properly.  I believe Romo also got the overpaid nod.

I consider only two of those as over paid. And frankly one of them might actually live up to their contract.

Ryan and Romo?  I guess you believe Ryan will live up to his contract then?


Ryan and Flacco, and I'm leaning Flacco. I sympathize with romo given he had a situation similar to Rodgers last year: detrimental line, injured receivers, inconsistent backfield.
 
2013-08-07 11:26:14 AM
Sanchez is ranked too dammed low.  Rex Ryan is begging Jest fans to not boo him, like his mom telling bullies to quit picking on him.  That kind of stuff buries the needle.

Cabo-Carrie-Simpson-Snapbobble Romo certainly deserves #1, if Favre and Tebow are excluded for reasons stated.

Since he's already turned pro, Johnny Football Autograph should be on the clock, despite being years away from being eligible to sign with an NFL contract.
 
2013-08-07 11:38:04 AM

redmid17: js34603: This whole thing reeks of trying to hard.

Which QBs generate the most nonsense? Here's a bunch of nonsense I made up to decide! Please click it!

Yes a primary FO writer is clearly full of nonsense.


No you're right there are some really complex metrics going on here. Please tell me more about the "Extracurriculars" and "Appearence" categories. Those are surely objective measurements from which we can generate important conclusions.

Nope, no nonsense here at all. This guy is a primary writer for FO!
 
2013-08-07 11:51:34 AM
Flacco did not 'rupture the Raven's salary cap'.

His cap number this year is $1.2m LESS than last year.

He will have to renegotiate/restructure in three years because he would THEN rupture the cap. But that's how most QB deals work at this stage of a player's career. Roethlisberger has restructured what, 4 times?
 
2013-08-07 11:56:48 AM
Too convoluted to be a useful guide, and I still don't put too much weight on Super Bowl wins = a great QB. Because there's no way you could ever convince me that Trent Dilfer is a better quarterback than Dan Marino or Jim Kelly. Hell, though he lost all four, Jim Kelly led his team to four straight Super Bowl appearances. For awhile, it looked like John Elway was going to retire without ever having won a Super Bowl.
 
2013-08-07 12:04:03 PM

thecpt: degenerate-afro: thecpt: Flacco, Rodgers, Ryan and Brees are all overpaid according to the scale if I'm reading it properly.  I believe Romo also got the overpaid nod.

I consider only two of those as over paid. And frankly one of them might actually live up to their contract.

Ryan and Romo?  I guess you believe Ryan will live up to his contract then?

Ryan and Flacco, and I'm leaning Flacco. I sympathize with romo given he had a situation similar to Rodgers last year: detrimental line, injured receivers, inconsistent backfield.


That's why these guys are overpaid, because of the salary cap, every extra dollar you give to the QB means less money available for WR's, Linemen, Defense, RB's.

The salary cap for this year is 123 million. Rogers' contract takes up 17% of that, Eli takes up 13%. Does that extra six million allow the Giants to build a better team?
 
2013-08-07 12:07:48 PM
TWTW is the only stat I care about.  Tell me when you can quantify THAT!
 
2013-08-07 12:15:36 PM

Serious Black: And Tony Romo is rightly #1 in this ranking.


The whole thing looked like it was design just to make Romo #1 at SOMETHING.
 
2013-08-07 12:16:20 PM

skinink: Too convoluted to be a useful guide, and I still don't put too much weight on Super Bowl wins = a great QB. Because there's no way you could ever convince me that Trent Dilfer is a better quarterback than Dan Marino or Jim Kelly. Hell, though he lost all four, Jim Kelly led his team to four straight Super Bowl appearances. For awhile, it looked like John Elway was going to retire without ever having won a Super Bowl.


...you know it's not a serious metric, right?
 
2013-08-07 12:21:47 PM
Roger's contract takes up just under 10% of the cap this year. ($12m)

Flacco is under 6%. ($6.8m)

Eli is just under 17%. ($20.85m)

Mind you that's cap numbers not actual income.
 
2013-08-07 12:23:50 PM

Deneb81: Flacco did not 'rupture the Raven's salary cap'.

His cap number this year is $1.2m LESS than last year.

He will have to renegotiate/restructure in three years because he would THEN rupture the cap. But that's how most QB deals work at this stage of a player's career. Roethlisberger has restructured what, 4 times?


B-b-b-but Anquan Boldin had to leave for SF!

We'll miss his hands, but supposedly Reed/Doss/LaQuan Williams are ready to move up the depth chart (which will be important if Jacoby Jones regresses toward his production mean). Besides which, that looked like a much better idea before Pitta's hip went all septuagenarian.

// Flacco's numbers aren't stellar, but I'll take a good run/pass mix with solid D over a pass-happy high-tempo defense-by-offense squad
// of course, the loss of two pillars of the D won't be small (until Ed Reed returns as secondary coach in 2015)
 
2013-08-07 12:36:30 PM

timswar: Serious Black: And Tony Romo is rightly #1 in this ranking.

The whole thing looked like it was design just to make Romo #1 at SOMETHING.


I didn't realize that the guard the Cowboys signed was the 'butt' in the buttfumble.  Thankfully, he changed his mind and retired rather than risk getting involved with Romoshenanigans.
 
2013-08-07 12:45:20 PM

Dr Dreidel: // of course, the loss of two pillars of the D won't be small (until Ed Reed returns as secondary coach in 2015)


I more expect Reed to coach High School / College in the south.  I doubt he'll want to return back north*

/Yes, I know Maryland is the south
 
2013-08-07 12:54:37 PM

degenerate-afro: /Yes, I know Maryland is the south


Please don't associate us with that portion of the country. I prefer "Mid-Atlantic."
 
2013-08-07 01:09:10 PM

skinink: Because there's no way you could ever convince me that Trent Dilfer is a better quarterback than Dan Marino or Jim Kelly.


Really going out on a limb there, aren't you?  Why, I bet you're a proponent of that newfangled theory that the earth revolves around the sun.
 
2013-08-07 01:43:47 PM
I do agree that there is a huge cloud of nonsense surrounding Tony Romo. He doesn't seek the spotlight or give tons of interviews or make a lot of appearances. People just can't quit talking about him. He hasn't had a "high profile romance" in 4 years, but people just can't seem to let his previous dalliances go. They literally cannot move on. It's stalker-like, really, and that is coming from ME.

Also. I take GREAT exception to not including felony convictions into this metric. Michael Vick goes to farking PRISON & he somehow has less nonsense about him than someone who dated Carrie Underwood or hurt his ankle in a playoff game? Really? REALLY?
 
2013-08-07 01:45:56 PM

Komplex: thecpt: degenerate-afro: thecpt: Flacco, Rodgers, Ryan and Brees are all overpaid according to the scale if I'm reading it properly.  I believe Romo also got the overpaid nod.

I consider only two of those as over paid. And frankly one of them might actually live up to their contract.

Ryan and Romo?  I guess you believe Ryan will live up to his contract then?

Ryan and Flacco, and I'm leaning Flacco. I sympathize with romo given he had a situation similar to Rodgers last year: detrimental line, injured receivers, inconsistent backfield.

That's why these guys are overpaid, because of the salary cap, every extra dollar you give to the QB means less money available for WR's, Linemen, Defense, RB's.

The salary cap for this year is 123 million. Rogers' contract takes up 17% of that, Eli takes up 13%. Does that extra six million allow the Giants to build a better team?


So use the right numbers. Also packers couldn't buy a good line or rbs and they tried. They still have great receivers and invest in a defense that just hasn't panned out. Given that Rodgers is the best at the rarest position that is the biggest priority I think his market price was accommodated
 
2013-08-07 01:49:57 PM
Di Atribe:Also. I take GREAT exception to not including felony convictions into this metric. Michael Vick goes to farking PRISON & he somehow has less nonsense about him than someone who dated Carrie Underwood or hurt his ankle in a playoff game? Really? REALLY?

While a valid complaint, I don't think the writer of TFA would disagree (and that's arguably his point). Stupid silly bullshiat lasts longer in the public mind than real, serious issues.
 
2013-08-07 02:16:46 PM

Neeek: While a valid complaint, I don't think the writer of TFA would disagree (and that's arguably his point). Stupid silly bullshiat lasts longer in the public mind than real, serious issues.


The buttfumble will easily last as long as Leon Lett's two blunders.  Some people have already forgotten about Marvin Harrison's night club escapades.  That being said, the amount of media attention is much greater now, so I doubt certain things will be as easily forgotten.  Hernandez for example.
 
2013-08-07 02:30:16 PM

Neeek: Di Atribe:Also. I take GREAT exception to not including felony convictions into this metric. Michael Vick goes to farking PRISON & he somehow has less nonsense about him than someone who dated Carrie Underwood or hurt his ankle in a playoff game? Really? REALLY?

While a valid complaint, I don't think the writer of TFA would disagree (and that's arguably his point). Stupid silly bullshiat lasts longer in the public mind than real, serious issues.


Truer words, my friend.
 
2013-08-07 02:39:18 PM

Neeek: Stupid silly bullshiat lasts longer in the public mind than real, serious issues.


Mainly because it's fun to joke about silly bullsh*t; not so much fun to joke about real, serious issues.
 
2013-08-07 03:23:51 PM

timswar: Serious Black: And Tony Romo is rightly #1 in this ranking.

The whole thing looked like it was design just to make Romo #1 at SOMETHING.


Pretty much this.
 
2013-08-07 04:45:46 PM
I find this list to be 100% accurate

Romo you so nonsense LOL
 
2013-08-07 04:48:18 PM

Di Atribe: Also. I take GREAT exception to not including felony convictions into this metric. Michael Vick goes to farking PRISON & he somehow has less nonsense about him than someone who dated Carrie Underwood or hurt his ankle in a playoff game? Really? REALLY?


Never change Di.
 
2013-08-07 04:50:25 PM

mikaloyd: Di Atribe: Also. I take GREAT exception to not including felony convictions into this metric. Michael Vick goes to farking PRISON & he somehow has less nonsense about him than someone who dated Carrie Underwood or hurt his ankle in a playoff game? Really? REALLY?

Never change Di.


I don't think I ever threatened to.
 
2013-08-07 05:06:11 PM

js34603: This whole thing reeks of trying to hard.

Which QBs generate the most nonsense? Here's a bunch of nonsense I made up to decide! Please click it!


My guess is the iamwrong douche knows this guy to gear towards hating on Matt Ryan, he's that much of a petty biatch.
 
2013-08-07 05:19:44 PM
Phil Mickelson Goldilocks Zone.

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"Haha, I like that!"
 
2013-08-07 06:46:47 PM
So the Dolphins are going to the Super Bowl?
 
2013-08-07 09:32:51 PM

timswar: Serious Black: And Tony Romo is rightly #1 in this ranking.

The whole thing looked like it was design just to make Romo #1 at SOMETHING.


As I understand the situation the entire NFL fanbase outside of Dallas is one giant conspiracy against Tony Romo.
 
2013-08-08 03:55:29 AM
This article was pretty damn good, actually.
 
2013-08-08 02:45:00 PM

mikaloyd: timswar: Serious Black: And Tony Romo is rightly #1 in this ranking.

The whole thing looked like it was design just to make Romo #1 at SOMETHING.

As I understand the situation the entire NFL fanbase outside of Dallas is one giant conspiracy against Tony Romo.


The fan base in Dallas is much harder on Romo than outside it, unless they're Redskins fans or something.
 
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