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(Burnt Orange Report)   Southern states can make their own voting laws, after all, racism is dead. "If you give the legal right to vote to 10 Hispanics in my district, seven to eight of them are going to vote Democrat." Wait, that came out wrong   (burntorangereport.com) divider line 142
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2013-08-07 07:12:20 AM
Smitty, you're racist for saying that.
 
2013-08-07 07:39:01 AM
POST RACIAL AMERICA
 
2013-08-07 07:58:17 AM
Not racist when Democrats say it though.
 
2013-08-07 08:16:55 AM

serial_crusher: Not racist when Democrats say it though.


Which democrats said that?
 
2013-08-07 08:17:11 AM
In a better world there would be some kind of Act enshrined into law to ensure Voting Rights. Maybe it could pay special attention to places with a history of taking them away, or something.

Just a thought...
 
2013-08-07 08:17:29 AM

serial_crusher: Not racist when Democrats say it though.


Are Democrats saying it as a reason to pass legislation, or are they merely pointing out that the Republican party is seemingly going out of its way to piss off any demographic that isn't composed entirely of elderly white Christian males?
 
2013-08-07 08:18:17 AM
In May, Texas tea party leader Ken Emanuelson said this at a Dallas County Republican Party event: "I'm going to be real honest with you. The Republican Party doesn't want black people to vote if they are going to vote 9-to-1 for Democrats."

I don't understand why this concerns him.

1.  The Tea Party is only concerned about the budget.
2.  The Tea Party is a non-partisan, grassroots movement.
3.  The Tea Party really, really disliked George W. Bush too when he was in office.  The called him George W. Spendbush.  It was all over the news.
 
2013-08-07 08:19:07 AM
I'm having trouble mustering outrage over this.  He's 100% right.  Does anyone doubt that new Hispanic voters would make Republicans pay for backing the wrong horse on immigration?
 
2013-08-07 08:20:43 AM
If they're illegal, they shouldn't be allowed to vote no matter what ethnicity.
 
2013-08-07 08:23:12 AM
Also, your blog sucks.  I support immigration reform, but fail to see how forbidding non-citizens from voting constitutes an injustice.
 
2013-08-07 08:25:15 AM
Sounds like this guy is admitting that, in his district, they're restricting the right of American citizens of Hispanic ethnicity from voting, and he's afraid to change that.  Someone really needs to all the Justice dept. and check it out.
 
2013-08-07 08:25:58 AM
Oh, let's be fair, it's not just in the South. Try driving while brown in Arizona or Colorado some time. That is an adventure in itself...

My CSB: in both Arizona and Colorado I was the designated driver for my crew for events, because despite the fact that I was driving a 1988 New Yorker, I was less likely to be stopped as the driver than any of my crew who were black and brown. I was still stopped a few times, and in those instances, it wasn't for my driving, but because the officers in question wanted to know if I required assistance, or I was being held against my will. White man in a chef's coat, driving a car full of folks also in chefs coats, and the first thought was apparently: he must be in some sort of trouble, we'd best get right on that...

The best stop, was a partnered pair in Arizona, heading into Goodyear. The driver was white, and his partner black, and when we got stopped, I was dropping off one my co-workers, because carpooling made sense, and Pruitt's wife needed their car during the day. The white cop was concerned that I was driving into a primarily black and brown neighborhood, and that I was about to be robbed, while his partner face palmed during the entire incident, and part of that was the cop facepalming lived only a few blocks away from where we got stopped, and knew Pruitt and his wife.

Working in the food service industry, there is still a LOT of racism, and you get to see it up close and personal. Not just with how your co-workers are treated outside, but how owners and managers treat folks even within the restaurants and facilities. When we rolled into a facility with our crew, which was fairly diverse, the first step was indicating that yes, the black guy and the brown girl would be heading the crews, and the two white guys would NOT be in charge of the whole shebang, and watching the managers at these facilities taken aback that we were the crew that the Regional chef put his faith into, and that we were the crew that was there to bail their asses out of the fire they'd found themselves in. We essentially would roll into a facility, we'd take charge of operations and events, hit the ground running, and would run the crews that were in those facilities as extensions of our own, and the pushback from suddenly finding themselves under what amounted to meddling by the regional offices was understandable. They got over it when they realized that we were actually good at what we did, and that we communicated and knew the events, had a plan, and pitched in asses to elbows down to running the dishes, hauling the equipment, and running the hottest and ugliest positions right along side the crew we were put in charge of. The crews at the facilities recognized that they were understaffed and woefully unprepared for the Hell about to rain down on them, and after a bit, their managers realized that the regional chef was telling them that they had screwed up badly if he had to bring in crew from another facility to get them through events on a regular basis, and that the crew was mostly brown and black, and nominally in charge of events that they didn't really understand stuck in their craw a bit, but when the regional chef is in their face, and telling them, "Let these people do their jobs" it smoothed things over a bit, especially when they realized that we got things done a damn sight faster, with less hiccups, and actually hauled their butts out of fires that they hadn't even considered coming, they sort of thawed a bit. Race was an issue at some of these places, and seeing a black man or Mexican woman running things made the management nervous, but the crews often responded better, because not only did we roll in and tucked in to do the jobs beside them, but that it wasn't just some lame white guy with a tie and clipboard doing so, made them feel better too. Being one of two white guys on the crew, but visibly not just friendly, but on equal terms with the crew that was pitching in, that got the crews motivated. It didn't stop management from often coming immediately to myself or the other white guy with issues, but after a few snaps that they needed to talk to the guy actually in charge of that section, and not the guy in charge of this section, they got used to the idea that the black guy and the brown woman were running their own portion of the show.
 
2013-08-07 08:26:07 AM
Democrats are the same. They actively try to supress the vote of old white people. I'm sure they will back or oppose legislation depending on if supresses the old or male white vote because both sides are the same.
 
2013-08-07 08:27:03 AM
Texas Republican Voting Rights Guide

fc06.deviantart.net

    ^___ Usurping Illegal Leeches & Criminals ___^   ^__ Proud American Citizens __^
 
2013-08-07 08:27:10 AM
It doesn't matter what you do - in time, politics will follow the demographics. This is a stalling tactic, and it will be futile in the long run.
 
2013-08-07 08:27:59 AM
Look, it's totally not a racist thing, at all.  It's just a simple fact that the Hispanics vote Democrat.

We're working on that. We don't like that they're illegals, but at least they came to America to work, unlike the minorities we have here already.  *cough cough*

But we can't spend tax dollars to give them health care when they fall off a roof, or when the senoritas pop out a litter of spiclets.  And who gets to pay for bilingual schools when they get a little older?  Real Americans, that's who.

We can't give them amnesty, because that would be against the Bible. Citizenship is a privilege, not a right.  Unless you're born here.

So anyway, we're working on minority outreach. But the change really needs to come from the Hispanic community. They need to be like Taco Bell. You know there's Taco Bells in Kansas, Oklahoma, and Utah, right?  Because they toned it down.  They're not in-your-face Mexican.  So they're exotic enough to be appealing to the suburban soccer mom, but not so much that they're scary.

So maybe there's hope for the GOP, if the Hispanics can find it within themselves to be more like Taco Bell. Or Ricky Martin. Or Ricky Ricardo.
 
2013-08-07 08:28:24 AM

Aristocles: If they're illegal, they shouldn't be allowed to vote no matter what ethnicity.


Who was your previous failed troll alt?  I feel like I've heard all these retreads before.
 
2013-08-07 08:28:52 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Which democrats said that?


All of them. Every Democrat who ever was... prior to the 1940s.

Then the Republicans came up with the "Southern Strategy" to get the racist, fundamentalist a**holes that dominated the southern US to vote for them, using racism as a wedge issue to secure the racist/bigot vote for generations to come. They succeeded to a degree few people could have imagined; like a parasitic wasp larvae, the racist demographic has been eating them from the inside out ever since... and now the young brood is eating its way out of the host's dying carcass.

Good riddance, too.
=Smidge=
 
2013-08-07 08:29:22 AM
The fact that people believe that the right to vote is some form of spigot they can turn on and off with their political desires is by far the most disturbing part of that
 
2013-08-07 08:29:46 AM

GoldSpider: Also, your blog sucks.  I support immigration reform, but fail to see how forbidding non-citizens from voting constitutes an injustice.


That's not what he said.  He said we shouldn't allow Hispanics to become citizens because they will vote Democratic.
 
2013-08-07 08:31:48 AM
Republicans speaking in a dehumanizing way about people they don't like? Say it ain't so!

If you don't vote Republican, you are a mindless animal and they will do everything they can to ensure you cannot vote.
 
2013-08-07 08:32:27 AM

hubiestubert: Oh, let's be fair, it's not just in the South. Try driving while brown in Arizona or Colorado some time. That is an adventure in itself...

My CSB: in both Arizona and Colorado I was the designated driver for my crew for events, because despite the fact that I was driving a 1988 New Yorker, I was less likely to be stopped as the driver than any of my crew who were black and brown. I was still stopped a few times, and in those instances, it wasn't for my driving, but because the officers in question wanted to know if I required assistance, or I was being held against my will. White man in a chef's coat, driving a car full of folks also in chefs coats, and the first thought was apparently: he must be in some sort of trouble, we'd best get right on that...

The best stop, was a partnered pair in Arizona, heading into Goodyear. The driver was white, and his partner black, and when we got stopped, I was dropping off one my co-workers, because carpooling made sense, and Pruitt's wife needed their car during the day. The white cop was concerned that I was driving into a primarily black and brown neighborhood, and that I was about to be robbed, while his partner face palmed during the entire incident, and part of that was the cop facepalming lived only a few blocks away from where we got stopped, and knew Pruitt and his wife.

Working in the food service industry, there is still a LOT of racism, and you get to see it up close and personal. Not just with how your co-workers are treated outside, but how owners and managers treat folks even within the restaurants and facilities. When we rolled into a facility with our crew, which was fairly diverse, the first step was indicating that yes, the black guy and the brown girl would be heading the crews, and the two white guys would NOT be in charge of the whole shebang, and watching the managers at these facilities taken aback that we were the crew that the Regional chef put his faith into, and that we were the crew that was there to bail their asses out of the fire they'd found themselves in. We essentially would roll into a facility, we'd take charge of operations and events, hit the ground running, and would run the crews that were in those facilities as extensions of our own, and the pushback from suddenly finding themselves under what amounted to meddling by the regional offices was understandable. They got over it when they realized that we were actually good at what we did, and that we communicated and knew the events, had a plan, and pitched in asses to elbows down to running the dishes, hauling the equipment, and running the hottest and ugliest positions right along side the crew we were put in charge of. The crews at the facilities recognized that they were understaffed and woefully unprepared for the Hell about to rain down on them, and after a bit, their managers realized that the regional chef was telling them that they had screwed up badly if he had to bring in crew from another facility to get them through events on a regular basis, and that the crew was mostly brown and black, and nominally in charge of events that they didn't really understand stuck in their craw a bit, but when the regional chef is in their face, and telling them, "Let these people do their jobs" it smoothed things over a bit, especially when they realized that we got things done a damn sight faster, with less hiccups, and actually hauled their butts out of fires that they hadn't even considered coming, they sort of thawed a bit. Race was an issue at some of these places, and seeing a black man or Mexican woman running things made the management nervous, but the crews often responded better, because not only did we roll in and tucked in to do the jobs beside them, but that it wasn't just some lame white guy with a tie and clipboard doing so, made them feel better too. Being one of two white guys on the crew, but visibly not just friendly, but on equal terms with the crew that was pitching in, that got the crews motivated. It didn't stop management from often coming immediately to myself or the other white guy with issues, but after a few snaps that they needed to talk to the guy actually in charge of that section, and not the guy in charge of this section, they got used to the idea that the black guy and the brown woman were running their own portion of the show.


Wall of text crits for over 9000.
 
2013-08-07 08:32:47 AM

chimp_ninja: Aristocles: If they're illegal, they shouldn't be allowed to vote no matter what ethnicity.

Who was your previous failed troll alt?  I feel like I've heard all these retreads before.


I have one alt, but the name is too topical to use on a regular basis and it is by no means "failed." It's "Creepy Ass-Cracka."
 
2013-08-07 08:32:57 AM
You can deny math and science but as the GOP is seeing, you can't shake reality.  They are demographically as dead as T-Rex six months after the comet hit.  In the Hindu religion Shiva is both the destroyer and creator god.  The modern GOP is drinking from Shiva's poison bowl and we are witnessing their death pangs.

I hope I am around to see what is created from the corpse.  That would be exciting to see.  I have faith that the younger generations will be far far better than the boomers and gen x'ers (of which I am a member).
 
2013-08-07 08:35:42 AM
Ring ring, hello Ken Emanuelson here.

This is the Justice Dept would you mind coming down to our office.
 
2013-08-07 08:40:42 AM
Hey, what do you know.  Politicians being honest.  Basically they are saying "We are restricting them to vote because we're afraid that they won't vote the way WE want them to!"

...sounds honest to me.....  :-)
 
2013-08-07 08:40:52 AM

Shakin_Haitian: That's not what he said.


That's what blogger-who-sucks said:

By Burgess' own explanation, we know the comment was not a quip but a reflection of "[w]hat's going on here": the prospect of justice for undocumented immigrants scares Texas Republicans who already see Texas turning blue.

Tomatoes, tomahtos, I guess.  That's a fairly loaded phrase; suggesting (to me at least) that the denial of voting rights to undocumented immigrants was itself an injustice.
 
2013-08-07 08:41:35 AM

monoski: Ring ring, hello Ken Emanuelson here.

This is the Justice Dept would you mind coming down to our office.


I don't see why the DOJ would get involved before immigration reform is passed.
 
2013-08-07 08:41:53 AM

Prophet of Loss: Texas Republican Voting Rights Guide

[fc06.deviantart.net image 542x332]

    ^___ Usurping Illegal Leeches & Criminals ___^   ^__ Proud American Citizens __^


Wait a minute.... I match the second one.

Good thing I don't live in Texas, I guess.
 
2013-08-07 08:43:27 AM

Rapmaster2000: In May, Texas tea party leader Ken Emanuelson said this at a Dallas County Republican Party event: "I'm going to be real honest with you. The Republican Party doesn't want black people to vote if they are going to vote 9-to-1 for Democrats."

I don't understand why this concerns him.

1.  The Tea Party is only concerned about the budget.
2.  The Tea Party is a non-partisan, grassroots movement.
3.  The Tea Party really, really disliked George W. Bush too when he was in office.  The called him George W. Spendbush.  It was all over the news.


The Tea Party did not exist when george w. bush was in office.
 
2013-08-07 08:43:41 AM

monoski: Ring ring, hello Ken Emanuelson here.

This is the Justice Dept would you mind coming down to our office.


Technically nothing here is illegal, thanks to the recent Supreme Court rulings. States are free to discriminate against people's voting rights all they want, as long as that discrimination is racially based. America!
 
2013-08-07 08:45:11 AM

foo monkey: Wall of text crits for over 9000.


Bonus points for being marginally related to the topic at hand.
 
2013-08-07 08:45:19 AM

GoldSpider: I'm having trouble


GoldSpider: I don't see


We know.
 
2013-08-07 08:47:48 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: GoldSpider: I'm having trouble

GoldSpider: I don't see

We know.


So where's the outrage?  He's right, and it's not racist to point out a simple fact.
 
2013-08-07 08:48:58 AM
They will appear the same as segregationists do now in the history books.   Future generations will look back in shame that we allowed people like this to hold office.
 
2013-08-07 08:49:34 AM
justjoan.joanginsberg.com

The problem is the Republicans think they just need a new instrument
 
2013-08-07 08:50:42 AM
The Republicans are being candid about their reasons for opposing amnesty. I wish the Democrats would be candid about their reasons for supporting it: more votes for them. Thanks for your vote. Now go enjoy the crumbs from your master's table.
 
2013-08-07 08:51:44 AM
My favorite:

www.bannedinhollywood.com
 
2013-08-07 08:52:16 AM

Lost Thought 00: The fact that people believe that the right to vote is some form of spigot they can turn on and off with their political desires is by far the most disturbing part of that


That's the worst thing to come out of the last few years.  The GOP has become willing to turn anything and everything into a political football and a vehicle for obstruction.  They see voter suppression is a valid tactic to win elections, and they see the refusal to pay the nation's debts as a valid tactic to cut spending.  They have a lack of respect for the most basic tenets of democracy and the most basic obligations of the government that is staggering.
 
2013-08-07 08:54:15 AM

HotWingConspiracy: serial_crusher: Not racist when Democrats say it though.

Which democrats said that?


Oh they say it all the time just the liberal media doesn't want you to know about it.  Besides BENGHAZI
 
2013-08-07 08:54:16 AM

Aldon: Democrats are the same. They actively try to supress the vote of old white people. I'm sure they will back or oppose legislation depending on if supresses the old or male white vote because both sides are the same.



They do? Any evidence?

/hoping you're being sarcastic
 
2013-08-07 08:57:14 AM

Parthenogenetic: Look, it's totally not a racist thing, at all.  It's just a simple fact that the Hispanics vote Democrat.


ironically, hispanics lean conservative.
 
2013-08-07 08:57:58 AM

GoldSpider: I'm having trouble mustering outrage over this.  He's 100% right.  Does anyone doubt that new Hispanic voters would make Republicans pay for backing the wrong horse on immigration?


Are you really so partisan/bigoted/utterly lying about caring about American democracy that you'd think a potential voter's potential political leaning is a valid reason to deny or discourage them from voting?

Dancing around this question won't get them to answer it.
 
2013-08-07 09:00:31 AM

Crotchrocket Slim: Are you really so partisan/bigoted/utterly lying about caring about American democracy that you'd think a potential voter's potential political leaning is a valid reason to deny or discourage them from voting?


Absolutely not, and the fact that you inferred that from any of my posts here suggests you have very limited reading comprehension skills, or simply read from them what you wanted for the sake of maintaining righteous outrage.
 
2013-08-07 09:01:22 AM

Lost Thought 00: The fact that people believe that the right to vote is some form of spigot they can turn on and off with their political desires is by far the most disturbing part of that


If you read the full context around the quote, he was talking about immigration reform.  Sure, he chose his words poorly when he said Hispanics instead of illegals, but he was literally talking about giving the right to vote (among other rights) to people who don't currently have it.
 
2013-08-07 09:01:32 AM

GoldSpider: or simply read from them what you wanted for the sake of maintaining righteous outrage.


it's the fact you seem to think it's no big deal that a Republican thinks Hispanics shouldn't get to vote just because they'll vote for a Democrat.
 
2013-08-07 09:02:13 AM

GoldSpider: monoski: Ring ring, hello Ken Emanuelson here.

This is the Justice Dept would you mind coming down to our office.

I don't see why the DOJ would get involved before immigration reform is passed.


Suppressing voting rights (ps. Ken said blacks not immigrants) DOJ is looking to make an example of someone.
 
2013-08-07 09:02:34 AM

oryx: The Republicans are being candid about their reasons for opposing amnesty. I wish the Democrats would be candid about their reasons for supporting it: more votes for them. Thanks for your vote. Now go enjoy the crumbs from your master's table.


Nice! Everyone must be putting party before country because BSASSVR.

Are Mcain and Rubio the only honest people in congress or are they RINOs secretly working for the Democrats?
 
2013-08-07 09:08:21 AM

Crotchrocket Slim: GoldSpider: I'm having trouble mustering outrage over this.  He's 100% right.  Does anyone doubt that new Hispanic voters would make Republicans pay for backing the wrong horse on immigration?

Are you really so partisan/bigoted/utterly lying about caring about American democracy that you'd think a potential voter's potential political leaning is a valid reason to deny or discourage them from voting?

Dancing around this question won't get them to answer it.


BTW this is directed at anyone agreeing with the TX GOP, not sure if GoldSpider here is merely observing that TX Republican don't mind giving the finger to American values if it suits them to.
 
2013-08-07 09:10:22 AM

GoldSpider: Crotchrocket Slim: Are you really so partisan/bigoted/utterly lying about caring about American democracy that you'd think a potential voter's potential political leaning is a valid reason to deny or discourage them from voting?

Absolutely not, and the fact that you inferred that from any of my posts here suggests you have very limited reading comprehension skills, or simply read from them what you wanted for the sake of maintaining righteous outrage.


Sorry, Farking while waiting at a bus stop is not suggested (I hadn't read the rest of the thread, not sure you RTA, fail on us all but I'll accept mine).
 
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