serial_crusher: Not racist when Democrats say it though.
Aristocles: If they're illegal, they shouldn't be allowed to vote no matter what ethnicity.
HotWingConspiracy: Which democrats said that?
GoldSpider: Also, your blog sucks. I support immigration reform, but fail to see how forbidding non-citizens from voting constitutes an injustice.
hubiestubert: Oh, let's be fair, it's not just in the South. Try driving while brown in Arizona or Colorado some time. That is an adventure in itself...My CSB: in both Arizona and Colorado I was the designated driver for my crew for events, because despite the fact that I was driving a 1988 New Yorker, I was less likely to be stopped as the driver than any of my crew who were black and brown. I was still stopped a few times, and in those instances, it wasn't for my driving, but because the officers in question wanted to know if I required assistance, or I was being held against my will. White man in a chef's coat, driving a car full of folks also in chefs coats, and the first thought was apparently: he must be in some sort of trouble, we'd best get right on that...The best stop, was a partnered pair in Arizona, heading into Goodyear. The driver was white, and his partner black, and when we got stopped, I was dropping off one my co-workers, because carpooling made sense, and Pruitt's wife needed their car during the day. The white cop was concerned that I was driving into a primarily black and brown neighborhood, and that I was about to be robbed, while his partner face palmed during the entire incident, and part of that was the cop facepalming lived only a few blocks away from where we got stopped, and knew Pruitt and his wife.Working in the food service industry, there is still a LOT of racism, and you get to see it up close and personal. Not just with how your co-workers are treated outside, but how owners and managers treat folks even within the restaurants and facilities. When we rolled into a facility with our crew, which was fairly diverse, the first step was indicating that yes, the black guy and the brown girl would be heading the crews, and the two white guys would NOT be in charge of the whole shebang, and watching the managers at these facilities taken aback that we were the crew that the Regional chef put his faith into, and that we were the crew that was there to bail their asses out of the fire they'd found themselves in. We essentially would roll into a facility, we'd take charge of operations and events, hit the ground running, and would run the crews that were in those facilities as extensions of our own, and the pushback from suddenly finding themselves under what amounted to meddling by the regional offices was understandable. They got over it when they realized that we were actually good at what we did, and that we communicated and knew the events, had a plan, and pitched in asses to elbows down to running the dishes, hauling the equipment, and running the hottest and ugliest positions right along side the crew we were put in charge of. The crews at the facilities recognized that they were understaffed and woefully unprepared for the Hell about to rain down on them, and after a bit, their managers realized that the regional chef was telling them that they had screwed up badly if he had to bring in crew from another facility to get them through events on a regular basis, and that the crew was mostly brown and black, and nominally in charge of events that they didn't really understand stuck in their craw a bit, but when the regional chef is in their face, and telling them, "Let these people do their jobs" it smoothed things over a bit, especially when they realized that we got things done a damn sight faster, with less hiccups, and actually hauled their butts out of fires that they hadn't even considered coming, they sort of thawed a bit. Race was an issue at some of these places, and seeing a black man or Mexican woman running things made the management nervous, but the crews often responded better, because not only did we roll in and tucked in to do the jobs beside them, but that it wasn't just some lame white guy with a tie and clipboard doing so, made them feel better too. Being one of two white guys on the crew, but visibly not just friendly, but on equal terms with the crew that was pitching in, that got the crews motivated. It didn't stop management from often coming immediately to myself or the other white guy with issues, but after a few snaps that they needed to talk to the guy actually in charge of that section, and not the guy in charge of this section, they got used to the idea that the black guy and the brown woman were running their own portion of the show.
chimp_ninja: Aristocles: If they're illegal, they shouldn't be allowed to vote no matter what ethnicity.Who was your previous failed troll alt? I feel like I've heard all these retreads before.
Shakin_Haitian: That's not what he said.
monoski: Ring ring, hello Ken Emanuelson here.This is the Justice Dept would you mind coming down to our office.
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Rapmaster2000: In May, Texas tea party leader Ken Emanuelson said this at a Dallas County Republican Party event: "I'm going to be real honest with you. The Republican Party doesn't want black people to vote if they are going to vote 9-to-1 for Democrats."I don't understand why this concerns him.1. The Tea Party is only concerned about the budget.2. The Tea Party is a non-partisan, grassroots movement.3. The Tea Party really, really disliked George W. Bush too when he was in office. The called him George W. Spendbush. It was all over the news.
foo monkey: Wall of text crits for over 9000.
GoldSpider: I'm having trouble
GoldSpider: I don't see
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Lost Thought 00: The fact that people believe that the right to vote is some form of spigot they can turn on and off with their political desires is by far the most disturbing part of that
HotWingConspiracy: serial_crusher: Not racist when Democrats say it though.Which democrats said that?
Aldon: Democrats are the same. They actively try to supress the vote of old white people. I'm sure they will back or oppose legislation depending on if supresses the old or male white vote because both sides are the same.
Parthenogenetic: Look, it's totally not a racist thing, at all. It's just a simple fact that the Hispanics vote Democrat.
GoldSpider: I'm having trouble mustering outrage over this. He's 100% right. Does anyone doubt that new Hispanic voters would make Republicans pay for backing the wrong horse on immigration?
Crotchrocket Slim: Are you really so partisan/bigoted/utterly lying about caring about American democracy that you'd think a potential voter's potential political leaning is a valid reason to deny or discourage them from voting?
GoldSpider: or simply read from them what you wanted for the sake of maintaining righteous outrage.
GoldSpider: monoski: Ring ring, hello Ken Emanuelson here.This is the Justice Dept would you mind coming down to our office.I don't see why the DOJ would get involved before immigration reform is passed.
oryx: The Republicans are being candid about their reasons for opposing amnesty. I wish the Democrats would be candid about their reasons for supporting it: more votes for them. Thanks for your vote. Now go enjoy the crumbs from your master's table.
Crotchrocket Slim: GoldSpider: I'm having trouble mustering outrage over this. He's 100% right. Does anyone doubt that new Hispanic voters would make Republicans pay for backing the wrong horse on immigration?Are you really so partisan/bigoted/utterly lying about caring about American democracy that you'd think a potential voter's potential political leaning is a valid reason to deny or discourage them from voting?Dancing around this question won't get them to answer it.
GoldSpider: Crotchrocket Slim: Are you really so partisan/bigoted/utterly lying about caring about American democracy that you'd think a potential voter's potential political leaning is a valid reason to deny or discourage them from voting?Absolutely not, and the fact that you inferred that from any of my posts here suggests you have very limited reading comprehension skills, or simply read from them what you wanted for the sake of maintaining righteous outrage.
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