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2013-08-06 04:04:03 PM
Also an appropriate place for,

. . .that's "rectum", Johnny.
-wreckedum? It killed the hell out of him!
 
2013-08-06 04:05:11 PM

kortex: We need to employ him to blow up all the pitts around here.  All dogs actually, since all they do is drain resources of the country.  Ask yourself, do you own a dog for your pleasure or to save a domesticated animal from death?


Why not both?
 
2013-08-06 04:10:23 PM

Ivo Shandor: justtray: Ivo Shandor: Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Thinking your dog is possessed by the devil should cause some sort of mandatory psychiatric examination by the state.

Won't happen. The DSM specifically excludes religious beliefs from the definition of a delusion.

I'm sure someone will hit on this, but thinking your dog is possessed by the devil isn't a religious belief.

Believing in the Devil is a religious belief. Thinking the dog is possessed by him is psychosis.

OK, so...
Pigs possessed by demons - religion
Dog possessed by the devil - psychosis

Seems legit.


You're allowed to believe what you want, but your understanding of the DSM is factually flawed.

There's a significant difference between - "I believe that demons can possess animals," and "I believe my dog is possessed by a demon so I need to kill it."

Schizophrenics commonly invoke religious dogma and are still accurately diagnosed despite it.

For example, a very normal behavior of a lab may be to roll around in the grass on it's back. A crazy person might look at this as a sign a demon has possessed it..... and.... why am I even continually this ridiculous conversation?
 
2013-08-06 04:16:04 PM

Arkanaut: SlothB77: maybe it is just me, but dying seems like suffering to me.

Not if it's a quick death.  It's why it's okay to shoot somebody on a battlefield but it's not okay to torture them once they're captured.


I'm pretty sure a gut shot would be considered suffering.
 
2013-08-06 04:26:04 PM
Hmm..so by that twisted logic, if i blew you up, you people who decided this, that wouldn't be "cruel"? Because you die quick? Murdering a dog is cruel, no matter how you do it. So by this logic, its not cruel to kill, just if something suffers.

/wow...the mind boggles.
 
2013-08-06 04:27:15 PM

Okieboy: I blew chunks once


/the clown? Wow..i didn't know you rolled that way. Not that i'm judging, just saying.
 
2013-08-06 04:31:59 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Hmm..so by that twisted logic, if i blew you up, you people who decided this, that wouldn't be "cruel"? Because you die quick? Murdering a dog is cruel, no matter how you do it. So by this logic, its not cruel to kill, just if something suffers.

/wow...the mind boggles.


Well, it's not really quite that mind-boggling. Cruelty is defined as causing pain or suffering, to be cruel is to disregard or even intentionally and sadistically inflict the pain and suffering that you're causing.

Blowing a person up is murder. Cruelty is not an essential part of the definition of murder. The murder statute does not cover dogs.
 
2013-08-06 04:35:29 PM
http://youtu.be/HaWtWAvUb-4

Unavailable for comment
 
2013-08-06 04:36:33 PM

SlothB77: maybe it is just me, but dying seems like suffering to me.


You have proof of that?
 
2013-08-06 04:37:10 PM
Attention people of the US:
This man is severely mentally ill.  He's not going to be able to obtain help on his own.  He has access to explosives.  He's is one of potentially hundreds of thousands in the US who are in a similar situation (expect for maybe the explosives thing).  Your move.

/seriously our best answer is to imprison these people?
 
2013-08-06 04:38:01 PM
He needs to be given a one way trip to Somalia.
 
2013-08-06 04:38:32 PM

durbnpoisn: The death may have been instantanious, sure.  But the horror and fear that dog was going through as it was getting explosives strapped to it's body, would certainly qualify as cruelty.


Did scientists discover a way to read dog's thoughts that I hadn't heard of?
 
2013-08-06 04:41:07 PM
freewill:

Blowing a person up is murder. Cruelty is not an essential part of the definition of murder. The murder statute does not cover dogs.

And hopefully never does.
 
2013-08-06 04:41:37 PM

angry bunny: Attention people of the US:
This man is severely mentally ill.  He's not going to be able to obtain help on his own.  He has access to explosives.  He's is one of potentially hundreds of thousands in the US who are in a similar situation (expect for maybe the explosives thing).  Your move.

/seriously our best answer is to imprison these people?


Our best bet is to give him access to less stable explosives.
 
2013-08-06 04:42:20 PM

blatz514: Leo Bloom's Freakout: Says so much about how different the world is now. I just cannot imagine any location getting the go-ahead to strap dynamite to a whale carcass and let spectators stand and park close enough to have whale bits raining down on them. It was glorious as an artifact of its time. I don't approve of what they did, but I appreciate having seen it. Humans are weird.

The asshat in the article however, needs to test one of those surgically implanted anus grenades AQ is working on.

Actually, IIRC, it blew up due the gases that were in the dead whale.


I don't know why I know so much about exploding whales... however, the one on the beach is from 1970 when a beached whale was exploded to dispose of the carcass: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_whale.

The one that blew up due to gasses was more of a spontaneous explosion in Taiwan (referenced further down article) while being transported through the city streets.

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2013-08-06 04:42:23 PM

angry bunny: Attention people of the US:
This man is severely mentally ill.  He's not going to be able to obtain help on his own.  He has access to explosives.  He's is one of potentially hundreds of thousands in the US who are in a similar situation (expect for maybe the explosives thing).  Your move.

/seriously our best answer is to imprison these people?


No, our best answer is to mock him and inundate the thread about him with sarcasm from the comfort of our homes.
 
2013-08-06 04:45:31 PM
Doggy woggies are awesome. Don't explode them, please.
 
2013-08-06 04:46:46 PM

George Babbitt: Did scientists discover a way to read dog's thoughts that I hadn't heard of?


Yes they did.
 
2013-08-06 04:47:50 PM

MrHappyRotter: angry bunny: Attention people of the US:
This man is severely mentally ill.  He's not going to be able to obtain help on his own.  He has access to explosives.  He's is one of potentially hundreds of thousands in the US who are in a similar situation (expect for maybe the explosives thing).  Your move.

/seriously our best answer is to imprison these people?

No, our best answer is to mock him and inundate the thread about him with sarcasm from the comfort of our homes.

farm4.staticflickr.com

Don't judge me!!!!

/Hot
 
2013-08-06 04:48:53 PM

Ivo Shandor: George Babbitt: Did scientists discover a way to read dog's thoughts that I hadn't heard of?

Yes they did.


Dead link. Florida. BS.

/disqualified
 
2013-08-06 04:50:07 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Hmm..so by that twisted logic, if i blew you up, you people who decided this, that wouldn't be "cruel"? Because you die quick?


Well, assuming you blew me up *quickly*, and didn't just blow my lower half partially off or something so that I died via slow-bleedout.

What I think the lot of you defining *any* murder as 'cruel' are failing to see is that they're two different standards.  Just because you didn't kill me in a cruel fashion doesn't mean that you didn't still commit murder.

Cruelty:Torture - does not have to be fatal
Murder:Illegal deliberate killing(actual definitions vary).

You can murder without being cruel, and be cruel without murdering.

Killing your own dog happens to be legal, and indeed is sometimes the most humane thing to do.  Being cruel to said dog IS illegal.

So killing a dog quick so it doesn't suffer is good - Opiate overdose, gunshot to the head, 'sufficient' explosives, etc...  Killing it slowly via something like drowning, beating it to death, vivisection, and such is illegal.
 
2013-08-06 04:58:39 PM

JesseL: angry bunny: Attention people of the US:
This man is severely mentally ill.  He's not going to be able to obtain help on his own.  He has access to explosives.  He's is one of potentially hundreds of thousands in the US who are in a similar situation (expect for maybe the explosives thing).  Your move.

/seriously our best answer is to imprison these people?

Our best bet is to give him access to less stable explosives.


Dammit I should not have laughed as hard as I did...
 
2013-08-06 05:00:08 PM

inner ted: blatz514: Sin_City_Superhero: blatz514: Dog parts were found strewn across the 45-year-old's yard.

That's usually what happens when you blow up an animal.

Well...if the animal being blown up is a dog. It'd be kinda weird to blow up a cow, and your front yard gets dog parts strewn about.

This is true.  How about an exploding whale?

[media4.s-nbcnews.com image 474x342]

[media.kval.com image 405x304]


yes, how bout exploding whales


Came for this reference.

It's rainin' blubber, hallelujah!!!
 
2013-08-06 05:01:30 PM
Blowing up your devil-possessed dog as part of your preparations for the coming nuclear holocaust is many things, but not animal cruelty

As god is my witness, I didn't see the word "up" in this the first time.
 
2013-08-06 05:04:15 PM
Read half the comments.

No Cujo reference?
 
2013-08-06 05:04:18 PM
">Okieboy: I blew chunks once

 Thingster:Was chunks the dog or the cat? Congrats!  You win for getting the old joke right.

/but you don't understand!  chunks was my dog!!!!
//that'sthejoke.jpg
 
2013-08-06 05:13:57 PM
He was also in the process of preparing for a nuclear "rapture" and had removed all the metal objects from his home because they were inhabited by "the souls of demons."

I do admire his strength of character.  How many of you would just say 'fark it god, this makes living really hard' if god told you to move all metal objects from your home.

And what kind of metal objects, magnetic, non-magnetic.  What about porcelain knives.  I want to get inside this guys head.
 
2013-08-06 05:16:49 PM
All he wanted was a Devil Dog. Just one Devil Dog. And maybe a Pepsi to go with it.
 
2013-08-06 05:18:42 PM

Enemabag Jones: He was also in the process of preparing for a nuclear "rapture" and had removed all the metal objects from his home because they were inhabited by "the souls of demons."

I do admire his strength of character.  How many of you would just say 'fark it god, this makes living really hard' if god told you to move all metal objects from your home.

And what kind of metal objects, magnetic, non-magnetic.  What about porcelain knives.  I want to get inside this guys head.


I think he means all Iron Maiden, Pre-Black Album Metallica, Sepultura, etc. albums. That includes pewter castings of Eddie the Head, concert T-shirts with the sleeves ripped off, and air brushed leather jackets.
 
2013-08-06 05:18:44 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Hmm..so by that twisted logic, if i blew you up, you people who decided this, that wouldn't be "cruel"? Because you die quick? Murdering a dog is cruel, no matter how you do it. So by this logic, its not cruel to kill, just if something suffers.

/wow...the mind boggles.


What if my dog is suffering and I kill it?
 
2013-08-06 05:20:02 PM

Hector Remarkable: All he wanted was a Devil Dog. Just one Devil Dog. And maybe a Pepsi to go with it.


He went to YOUR schools, He went to YOUR churches. He went to YOUR institutionalized learning facilities!
 
2013-08-06 05:30:06 PM
Molavian
Bit'O'Gristle: Hmm..so by that twisted logic, if i blew you up, you people who decided this, that wouldn't be "cruel"? Because you die quick? Murdering a dog is cruel, no matter how you do it. So by this logic, its not cruel to kill, just if something suffers.
/wow...the mind boggles.
What if my dog is suffering and I kill it?


Have a family member that takes cares of animals. She takes in a dog that is not doing well. She lets it pass away outside. Neighbor sees it, contacts SPCA and she is put on a shiat list by busybodies on a personal mission who don't understand the situation.

Luckily no law enforcement was involved.
 
2013-08-06 05:36:52 PM
fark you you farking retarded piece of farking christian shiat. fark your whole religion and the stupid shiat it makes people do. fark it all.
 
2013-08-06 05:39:17 PM

SlothB77: maybe it is just me, but dying seems like suffering to me.


If all death equates to animal cruelty, then any vet who euthanizes an animal, or any slaughterhouse that kills cattle/pigs/sheep/etc. would be guilty.  That would make it an absurd standard to use.

...and it doesn't even make rational sense, as not all means of death are capable of causing pain (i.e., it happens too fast to register -- like a bullet through the brain or being literally blown up -- or it happens under sedation/anesthesia).
 
2013-08-06 05:40:15 PM
Make sure you stand far enough away...

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/nutty people will do nutty things.
 
2013-08-06 05:46:08 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Hmm..so by that twisted logic, if i blew you up, you people who decided this, that wouldn't be "cruel"? Because you die quick? Murdering a dog is cruel, no matter how you do it. So by this logic, its not cruel to kill, just if something suffers.

/wow...the mind boggles.


Murder (i.e., killing humans) is illegal for other reasons besides simply causing physical pain.  Humans have a much more sophisticated sense of "self" and understanding of mortality, so while the actual act might not cause physical pain (if it was done quickly enough), there are other considerations that don't apply to animals.  For instance, the psychological lead-up to death could be cruel in itself, and indeed mock-executions are a fairly common form of torture.

If you take a sick or injured dog out behind the shed with a rifle, he/she has absolutely no idea what that implies, and would happily continue eating a steak out of his bowl until suddenly he wasn't eating that steak anymore.
 
2013-08-06 05:54:06 PM

Thingster: Okieboy: I blew chunks once

Was chunks the dog or the cat?


Okieboy.  Call me.

/AKA Chunks
 
2013-08-06 06:02:40 PM

jshine: Bit'O'Gristle: Hmm..so by that twisted logic, if i blew you up, you people who decided this, that wouldn't be "cruel"? Because you die quick? Murdering a dog is cruel, no matter how you do it. So by this logic, its not cruel to kill, just if something suffers.

/wow...the mind boggles.

Murder (i.e., killing humans) is illegal for other reasons besides simply causing physical pain.  Humans have a much more sophisticated sense of "self" and understanding of mortality, so while the actual act might not cause physical pain (if it was done quickly enough), there are other considerations that don't apply to animals.  For instance, the psychological lead-up to death could be cruel in itself, and indeed mock-executions are a fairly common form of torture.

If you take a sick or injured dog out behind the shed with a rifle, he/she has absolutely no idea what that implies, and would happily continue eating a steak out of his bowl until suddenly he wasn't eating that steak anymore.


On the cruel, torturous aspect, killing another person where you come up behind them and shoot them through the brain or neck causing instant death with no preemptory knowledge, or same scenario in their sleep, would not be cruel. It would be murder, probably first-degree depending on the additional circumstances, but not cruel. There was no suffering, psychological or otherwise leading up to the act. The act was swift and complete.

With animals, as has been noted, they do not sense context, impending danger, etc. in the same way people do. If they have never seen someone killed with explosives or a gun, they are unlikely to fear those things. So they may resent being put in a silly costume, but they would not recognize the ugly sweater as a death-vest. It's not cruel in the strictest legal sense, but it suggests the person doing it is depraved and cruel and messed up in a truly fundamental way.

To put it another way, the person doing it may get the jollies of someone who enjoys torturing things and being cruel, but since the recipient didn't actually experience fear, pain, panic, then it's not literally cruel. That person is just projecting onto the victim. Otherwise, sexual predators who claim their victims "enjoyed" it could use that as a defense. It's about what the victim actually experiences, not what the perpetrator thinks they felt.
 
2013-08-06 06:14:50 PM

Leo Bloom's Freakout: So they may resent being put in a silly costume, but they would not recognize the ugly sweater as a death-vest.


I'd say 'smelly' or 'restrictive' sweater instead.  They don't really appreciate 'beauty' or 'ugly'.  But they do trigger on scent much more readily.

My brother had a dog(small shorthair) that understood that people paid more attention to him when he was wearing his little coat - ergo he loved having it put on.  Probably because:
1.  People are paying attention to him during the dressing
2.  Dressing is indicator of going for a *walk* (they also triggered on leashes)
3.  Wearing the coat leads to more attention & treats (he loved attention)

Ergo, you pulled that sweater out he'd be jumping around right next to you and twirling in circles.  Getting him calmed down enough to actually put it on took a bit more effort.
 
2013-08-06 06:17:05 PM

RoyHobbs22: Someone should blow that asshole up.


What about the rest of him?
 
2013-08-06 06:22:10 PM
 I don't see what all the fuss is about. The man made it clear the dog was possessed by demons put there by his Ex-girlfriend. He lays it all out pretty clearly, besides look at him he looks like a man who knows when a dog is possessed by demons. I'll be honest it all looks on the level to me. Let the poor man go because he has serious work to get back to preparin for the Nuclear rapture.

 On the up side he'll always be remembered as the guy who blew up his dog preparing for the End Times.
 
2013-08-06 06:24:02 PM

FrancoFile: Whole lotta crazy going on there.

/and how would someone with an 'extensive criminal record' be able get a license for running a fireworks stand?


When I did it one summer it was contract work and required no licensing I was aware of.  This was Texas and 15(ish) years ago though.

I believe any licensing was held by the company rep who only came on site a handful of times to drop off more goods.
 
2013-08-06 06:29:14 PM

HypnozombieX: On the up side he'll always be remembered as the guy who blew up his dog preparing for the End Times.


It's better than the guy who attempted to 'fish' with dynamite and had his retriever jump in to collect the thrown 'toy', then panic from his human panicking and heading(still carrying the lit dynamite) to hide underneath his truck...
 
2013-08-06 06:30:45 PM

Firethorn: HypnozombieX: On the up side he'll always be remembered as the guy who blew up his dog preparing for the End Times.

It's better than the guy who attempted to 'fish' with dynamite and had his retriever jump in to collect the thrown 'toy', then panic from his human panicking and heading(still carrying the lit dynamite) to hide underneath his truck...


BOUDREAUX!
 
2013-08-06 06:39:45 PM
It would be amusing if someone mailed the guy a box of Hostess Devil Dogs. Preferably on the anniversary of his dog's death.
 
2013-08-06 07:13:58 PM

Bit'O'Gristle: Hmm..so by that twisted logic, if i blew you up, you people who decided this, that wouldn't be "cruel"? Because you die quick? Murdering a dog is cruel, no matter how you do it. So by this logic, its not cruel to kill, just if something suffers.

/wow...the mind boggles.


The problem with your logic is that if it was written in law that killing an animal is cruel and thus illegal then you are casting a really, really wide net:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal

IANAL but the way I read the law it is animal cruelty in the first degree to put a fly in a jar and leave it to die.
 
2013-08-06 07:15:24 PM
This guy will be a crowd favorite in prison.
They'll fix him right up.
 
2013-08-06 07:15:40 PM

fat boy: Worst remake of Ol Yeller ever.


// Bangs head repeatedly on table
 
2013-08-06 07:19:47 PM
Hang this guy.
 
2013-08-06 07:42:18 PM

Amos Quito: inner ted: blatz514: Sin_City_Superhero: blatz514: Dog parts were found strewn across the 45-year-old's yard.

That's usually what happens when you blow up an animal.

Well...if the animal being blown up is a dog. It'd be kinda weird to blow up a cow, and your front yard gets dog parts strewn about.

This is true.  How about an exploding whale?

[media4.s-nbcnews.com image 474x342]

[media.kval.com image 405x304]

yes, how bout exploding whales


Came for this reference.

It's rainin' blubber, hallelujah!!!


me too. not enough blubber rain
 
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