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(WBUR Boston)   RAND PAUL: "The Economist is attacking me because they hate Libertarians"   (onpoint.wbur.org ) divider line
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2013-08-07 01:08:09 PM  

RanDomino: HighOnCraic
But the wealthy businessmen in the South wanted to maintain segregation in order to keep the poor whites happy with their situation. Besides, how would boycotts put pressure on businessmen to integrate when the laws prevented blacks from being served in their business?

Without exports, their wealth would have started to dry up, and they may have gone squealing to their politician buddies to do whatever it took to fix things.


Still waiting to hear an explanation of how boycotting a business that doesn't serve blacks will make those businesses lose money.  I'm also curious how exports got brought into the conversation.  What exactly to hotels and restaurants export?

/I'll concede that a boycott might've worked with places like movie theaters, which allowed black customers as long as they sat in a separate section.
//Most businesses, not so much.
 
2013-08-07 04:28:48 PM  

HighOnCraic: But as I said, it was boycotts that changed that state segregation laws, because most businesses wouldn't serve blacks to begin with.  It worked with the buses, because blacks were allowed to ride them (with certain restrictions), so the bus companies were losing money. All the stores that refused to serve blacks in the first place wouldn't have been impacted by a boycott.

Why is it such a big deal to admit that in this particular case, Federal power was necessary?  Even William F. Buckley (the guy who wrote "Why the South Must Prevail"), admitted it.

"I once believed we could evolve our way up from Jim Crow," Mr. Buckley said in 2004. "I was wrong: federal intervention was necessary."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/weekinreview/23tanenhaus.html?_r=0


You know what's sad?

The modern GOP has gotten to the point where even some  literal flag waving confederates are turned off by the racism.

Meanwhile, Rand Paul and his father are even worse.


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2013-08-07 06:28:47 PM  
HighOnCraic
What exactly to hotels and restaurants export?

That's not the target. The target is the ruling class, not specific businesses.
 
2013-08-07 09:26:56 PM  

schrodinger: HighOnCraic: But as I said, it was boycotts that changed that state segregation laws, because most businesses wouldn't serve blacks to begin with.  It worked with the buses, because blacks were allowed to ride them (with certain restrictions), so the bus companies were losing money. All the stores that refused to serve blacks in the first place wouldn't have been impacted by a boycott.

Why is it such a big deal to admit that in this particular case, Federal power was necessary?  Even William F. Buckley (the guy who wrote "Why the South Must Prevail"), admitted it.

"I once believed we could evolve our way up from Jim Crow," Mr. Buckley said in 2004. "I was wrong: federal intervention was necessary."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/weekinreview/23tanenhaus.html?_r=0

You know what's sad?

The modern GOP has gotten to the point where even some  literal flag waving confederates are turned off by the racism.

Meanwhile, Rand Paul and his father are even worse.


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Uh, just to say, but I think that bottom sign says "Rednecks FOR Obama".  As in, they're advocating voting for him.
 
2013-08-08 12:58:37 AM  

RanDomino: HighOnCraic
What exactly to hotels and restaurants export?

That's not the target. The target is the ruling class, not specific businesses.


And how could you do that when certain specific businesses were immune from the threat of a boycott?  I mean, how much can you threaten a business that doesn't allow black customers by having black customers refuse to shop there?

Can you admit that at least in this particular scenario Federal intervention accomplished something that the free market never could have achieved?
 
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