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2013-08-06 12:13:20 PM
If they hated libertarians, then why would they be attacking you, Senator Paul?
 
2013-08-06 12:37:26 PM
How are being anti-abortion and anti-marriage equality libertarian positions?
 
2013-08-06 12:42:10 PM
This interview was astonishing. Paul carries the torch of right wing victimhood to new and heretofore uncharted territories.

I had no idea he was so thin skinned. If he is really planning to run for president, he had better come up with some answers about the crazy racist lunatic he worked with until about two weeks ago.

Clutching his pearls in outrage at the suggestion he should have to acknowledge his association with a white supremacist isn't going to fly in the big leagues.
 
2013-08-06 12:48:32 PM

Aarontology: If they hated libertarians, then why would they be attacking you, Senator Paul?


This

/Fascist, maybe
 
2013-08-06 12:55:45 PM
Oooh, look at ME! I read The Economist!

What do you read? Time? Newsweek? Those are for people who can't handle a real news magazine like the one I read. That's because you're not as smart or sophisticated as me.

On weekends, I like to sit out on my porch in my wicker chair with my bifocals and my subscription copy of The Economist. Then, when I go to a professor's wine-and-cheese party later that night, I can casually mention all the fancy stuff I read about NASA and Venezuela and Gen. Pervez Musharraf in my fancy magazine and impress everybody.

Question: Do you think I'm smarter than everyone else because I read The Economist, or do I read The Economist because I'm smarter than everyone else? Now, there's a conundrum! I should mail that one in to The Economist and see what they think!

I say, old chap, here comes Lord Smartingford of Braintonshire! Shall we dine upon a nice cup of tea, then? We can discuss the economy, and the global situ-AYYY-tion, and ever so many other matters! I am so very versed in such matters, reading as do I The Economist, just as soon as the postman delivers it by the estate, don't you know. I find that only the right cracking coverage of The E-CON-omist keeps me jolly-well informed and all that, wouldn't you agree? Mmm, yes, I did think you would!
 
2013-08-06 01:03:17 PM
He misspelled "dumbasses"
 
2013-08-06 01:03:54 PM

vernonFL: Oooh, look at ME! I read The Economist!

What do you read? Time? Newsweek? Those are for people who can't handle a real news magazine like the one I read. That's because you're not as smart or sophisticated as me.

On weekends, I like to sit out on my porch in my wicker chair with my bifocals and my subscription copy of The Economist. Then, when I go to a professor's wine-and-cheese party later that night, I can casually mention all the fancy stuff I read about NASA and Venezuela and Gen. Pervez Musharraf in my fancy magazine and impress everybody.

Question: Do you think I'm smarter than everyone else because I read The Economist, or do I read The Economist because I'm smarter than everyone else? Now, there's a conundrum! I should mail that one in to The Economist and see what they think!

I say, old chap, here comes Lord Smartingford of Braintonshire! Shall we dine upon a nice cup of tea, then? We can discuss the economy, and the global situ-AYYY-tion, and ever so many other matters! I am so very versed in such matters, reading as do I The Economist, just as soon as the postman delivers it by the estate, don't you know. I find that only the right cracking coverage of The E-CON-omist keeps me jolly-well informed and all that, wouldn't you agree? Mmm, yes, I did think you would!


Thems some east coast liberal unamerican elitist words you got there, boy.
 
2013-08-06 01:04:36 PM
I was listening to On Point this morning, the interview got good when he starting flipping out over the "stop caring about what a staffer and biographer wrote, damnit!" moment.

good times
 
2013-08-06 01:04:54 PM
They're not attacking you because you're libertarian Senator.  They're attacking you because you're a hypocritical POS.
 
2013-08-06 01:05:00 PM
He also learned how to build his car from Popular Mechanics.
 
2013-08-06 01:05:11 PM

vernonFL: Oooh, look at ME! I read The Economist!

What do you read? Time? Newsweek? Those are for people who can't handle a real news magazine like the one I read. That's because you're not as smart or sophisticated as me.

On weekends, I like to sit out on my porch in my wicker chair with my bifocals and my subscription copy of The Economist. Then, when I go to a professor's wine-and-cheese party later that night, I can casually mention all the fancy stuff I read about NASA and Venezuela and Gen. Pervez Musharraf in my fancy magazine and impress everybody.

Question: Do you think I'm smarter than everyone else because I read The Economist, or do I read The Economist because I'm smarter than everyone else? Now, there's a conundrum! I should mail that one in to The Economist and see what they think!

I say, old chap, here comes Lord Smartingford of Braintonshire! Shall we dine upon a nice cup of tea, then? We can discuss the economy, and the global situ-AYYY-tion, and ever so many other matters! I am so very versed in such matters, reading as do I The Economist, just as soon as the postman delivers it by the estate, don't you know. I find that only the right cracking coverage of The E-CON-omist keeps me jolly-well informed and all that, wouldn't you agree? Mmm, yes, I did think you would!


I don't know why, but I totally read that in Stephen Colbert's voice.
 
2013-08-06 01:06:03 PM
Nearly done in one, finished off for good in two.
 
2013-08-06 01:06:24 PM
It's impossible to hate someone for being a colossal douchebag.  No, he can only be hated because other people are scared of freedom.
 
2013-08-06 01:07:13 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: He misspelled "dumbasses"


According to the OED, libertarian is an acceptable alternative spelling.
 
2013-08-06 01:09:21 PM

gilgigamesh: I had no idea he was so thin skinned


Are you kidding?  He was actually mad at the libs for making him buy a bad toilet.  The man can be a victim over anything.
 
2013-08-06 01:09:23 PM
'tis true, The Economist is left-leaning pro-Keynesian magazine.
 
2013-08-06 01:10:12 PM
RAND PAUL's attempts to communicate outside of his own fan club have been incredibly inept so far.  I mean, some of the best unintentional political lulz in a long time came from his just incredibly dumb speech he gave at Howard.

I think in the end he is unelectable for the same reason Newt Gingrich is: he's too convinced of his own brilliant political mind, which often leads him to say very dumb things.
 
2013-08-06 01:11:42 PM

vernonFL: Oooh, look at ME! I read The Economist!

What do you read? Time? Newsweek? Those are for people who can't handle a real news magazine like the one I read. That's because you're not as smart or sophisticated as me.

On weekends, I like to sit out on my porch in my wicker chair with my bifocals and my subscription copy of The Economist. Then, when I go to a professor's wine-and-cheese party later that night, I can casually mention all the fancy stuff I read about NASA and Venezuela and Gen. Pervez Musharraf in my fancy magazine and impress everybody.

Question: Do you think I'm smarter than everyone else because I read The Economist, or do I read The Economist because I'm smarter than everyone else? Now, there's a conundrum! I should mail that one in to The Economist and see what they think!

I say, old chap, here comes Lord Smartingford of Braintonshire! Shall we dine upon a nice cup of tea, then? We can discuss the economy, and the global situ-AYYY-tion, and ever so many other matters! I am so very versed in such matters, reading as do I The Economist, just as soon as the postman delivers it by the estate, don't you know. I find that only the right cracking coverage of The E-CON-omist keeps me jolly-well informed and all that, wouldn't you agree? Mmm, yes, I did think you would!


Smart people read the LRB. It's published fortnightly, so you know it's good.
 
2013-08-06 01:12:20 PM
I haven't read The Economist in a while. Not since I read up on enough economics to realize it's all built on postdictive model building that lacks a cynical touch about other people looking at the model and finding ways to game it.

TuteTibiImperes: How are being anti-abortion and anti-marriage equality libertarian positions?


From what I've seen, it looks like the Paulist libertarians are advocating that the Federal government drop it's ability to regulate such things in favor of state's rights. That is, the state's right to regulate things in a manner that certainly isn't small government or libertarian.

Harry Browne would smack the shiat out of the "libertarians" floating about right now. But Libertarians aren't libertarians, so one is defined and the other self defined.
 
2013-08-06 01:13:31 PM
The funny thing is the Randroid should LOVE the Economist. Every issue talks about how private anything is automatically better and how negative externalities never existed. They're all over giving crap back to the states because states are easier to bribe and control than a unified federal power.

/Got a one year subscription as part of a bank reward points thing
//Still overpaid
 
2013-08-06 01:13:36 PM
"The Economist is attacking me because they hate Libertarians"
//because they have no tolerance for groups who oversimplify economics or invent new math to support their positions.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-06 01:16:01 PM
he's a corporate anarchist.

words have meanings, douche.
 
2013-08-06 01:16:17 PM

wildcardjack: I haven't read The Economist in a while. Not since I read up on enough economics to realize it's all built on postdictive model building that lacks a cynical touch about other people looking at the model and finding ways to game it.

TuteTibiImperes: How are being anti-abortion and anti-marriage equality libertarian positions?

From what I've seen, it looks like the Paulist libertarians are advocating that the Federal government drop it's ability to regulate such things in favor of state's rights. That is, the state's right to regulate things in a manner that certainly isn't small government or libertarian.

Harry Browne would smack the shiat out of the "libertarians" floating about right now. But Libertarians aren't libertarians, so one is defined and the other self defined.




Well, take RAND PAUL's much derided comment about how he wouldn't mind local police using a drone to blow away someone who just robbed a liquor store. Coming so close on the heels of his filibuster of the Obama administration using drones, people saw that as hypocrisy, but it's not. RAND PAUL is just against the federal government using drones. If a state or local government wants to use then to blow away jaywalkers, that's fine with him.

State governments would be far more tyrannical than RAND PAUL claims the federal government is if he got his way.
 
2013-08-06 01:22:09 PM

TuteTibiImperes: How are being anti-abortion and anti-marriage equality libertarian positions?


He reminds me of Andrew Ryan from Bioshock.  He's all about libertarian ideals and John Galt right up until they don't benefit him and/or they allow other people to do things he disapproves of.

He is a petulant, hypocritical man-child with a poor grasp of causality and no personal grace or class, winning or losing.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-06 01:23:26 PM

jake_lex: Well, take RAND PAUL's much derided comment about how he wouldn't mind local police using a drone to blow away someone who just robbed a liquor store. Coming so close on the heels of his filibuster of the Obama administration using drones, people saw that as hypocrisy, but it's not. RAND PAUL is just against the federal government using drones. If a state or local government wants to use then to blow away jaywalkers, that's fine with him.


Or corporations.  He's fine with corporations doing whatever the fark they want with absolutely no law or regulation.

That's why I call his ilk corporate anarchists.
 
2013-08-06 01:24:14 PM

monoski: because they have no tolerance for groups who oversimplify economics or invent new math to support their positions.


You're thinking of the other Paul -- Paul Ryan.  Rand Paul doesn't have enough brain cells to even start talking about math.
 
2013-08-06 01:25:20 PM
BUT IF GROG HAS SURPLUS COCANUT ON HIS ISLAND, HE CAN TRADE FOR BANANANANAS FROM DOFR'S ISLAND.

FIGHT AGAINST BIG CAVE!!
 
2013-08-06 01:26:53 PM

Aarontology: If they hated libertarians, then why would they be attacking you, Senator Paul?


Done in one.
 
2013-08-06 01:27:36 PM
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2013-08-06 01:28:17 PM
Are there any conservatives in Congress anymore who aren't whiny little babies laboring under the false idea that they're perpetually victimized? Your average kindergartner is more mature and less blubbery than your typical conservative these days.
 
2013-08-06 01:32:21 PM

skozlaw: Are there any conservatives in Congress anymore who aren't whiny little babies laboring under the false idea that they're perpetually victimized? Your average kindergartner is more mature and less blubbery than your typical conservative these days.


I'm sure there are some - but they know if they open their mouths the Koch bros and Tea Party will declare a fatwa against them and they'll get primaried.
 
2013-08-06 01:32:50 PM

somedude210: I was listening to On Point this morning, the interview got good when he starting flipping out over the "stop caring about what a staffer and biographer wrote, damnit!" moment.

good times


YES.  It was fabulous.  The interview seemed to be going ok for him but then he lost his shiat & exposed himself as the spoiled racist crybaby douche that he truly is.  I hope his Democratic opponent uses a clip of that in ads.
 
2013-08-06 01:32:55 PM

wildcardjack: From what I've seen, it looks like the Paulist libertarians are advocating that the Federal government drop it's ability to regulate such things in favor of state's rights. That is, the state's right to regulate things in a manner that certainly isn't small government or libertarian.


But, if you look at them as 'corporatists' instead of 'libertarians', the neo-confederism makes complete sense.  Big companies largely operate above the fray of states and are more and more flexible every year.  But, they can play states against one another for tax break, handout, economic development money, state-paid training programs, all sorts of other goodies.  And, in the name of "laboratories of democracy", the states will race each other to the bottom.
 
2013-08-06 01:33:34 PM
http://www.lp.org/platform
Libertarian party platform.

/A real Libertarian does not allow ownership of other people and their bodies.
 
2013-08-06 01:34:39 PM
No, they are against crazy people who can't accept reality, not against Lib....wait a minute...
 
2013-08-06 01:34:48 PM

vernonFL: Oooh, look at ME! I read The Economist!


Alright, vernonFL, its been a long time coming, but you finally won Green 3 status.
 
2013-08-06 01:39:37 PM

MindStalker: vernonFL: Oooh, look at ME! I read The Economist!

Alright, vernonFL, its been a long time coming, but you finally won Green 3 status.


*ahem*  Not to detract from vernonFL's many good qualities, but...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/according-to-the-economist-nasa-is- an -industrial-s,11532/?ref=auto
 
2013-08-06 01:41:36 PM

Arkanaut: monoski: because they have no tolerance for groups who oversimplify economics or invent new math to support their positions.

You're thinking of the other Paul -- Paul Ryan.  Rand Paul doesn't have enough brain cells to even start talking about math.


I wish this country would stop electing people because their daddy got elected to something
 
2013-08-06 01:42:40 PM
It's the standard PAULite response to criticism. If you disagree or challenge them in any way, you must be a statist and approve of the government stealing money, the drug war, your mother's rape, and the feeding of Christian babies to rabid spiders.
 
2013-08-06 01:46:03 PM

gilgigamesh: vernonFL: Oooh, look at ME! I read The Economist!

What do you read? Time? Newsweek? Those are for people who can't handle a real news magazine like the one I read. That's because you're not as smart or sophisticated as me.

On weekends, I like to sit out on my porch in my wicker chair with my bifocals and my subscription copy of The Economist. Then, when I go to a professor's wine-and-cheese party later that night, I can casually mention all the fancy stuff I read about NASA and Venezuela and Gen. Pervez Musharraf in my fancy magazine and impress everybody.

Question: Do you think I'm smarter than everyone else because I read The Economist, or do I read The Economist because I'm smarter than everyone else? Now, there's a conundrum! I should mail that one in to The Economist and see what they think!

I say, old chap, here comes Lord Smartingford of Braintonshire! Shall we dine upon a nice cup of tea, then? We can discuss the economy, and the global situ-AYYY-tion, and ever so many other matters! I am so very versed in such matters, reading as do I The Economist, just as soon as the postman delivers it by the estate, don't you know. I find that only the right cracking coverage of The E-CON-omist keeps me jolly-well informed and all that, wouldn't you agree? Mmm, yes, I did think you would!

I don't know why, but I totally read that in Stephen Colbert's voice.


When I hit "situ-AYYY-tion" I suddenly heard Motley Crue.  Same old Situation was in my exercise play list last night.

/No, it doesn't take me 26 minutes to get to the gym - more like 26 seconds to walk downstairs.
 
2013-08-06 01:47:35 PM
I can't find it now, but there was a quote from Ron Paul questioning the reality of his son being a Libertarian.

Throwing out the pretend reality that corporate power is just as bad as government power, he would be a standard-bearer Republican if it wasn't for the last five years of the Tea party shifting Republicans to the right.

/I still find it ironic that it is normal for a Libertarian to be anti-gay rights, anti-drug legalization (just marijuana does not count anymore) and anti-abortion.
 
2013-08-06 01:50:01 PM

skozlaw: Are there any conservatives in Congress anymore who aren't whiny little babies laboring under the false idea that they're perpetually victimized? Your average kindergartner is more mature and less blubbery than your typical conservative these days.


Yes, they are in the Democratic Party, doing quite well.  In fact, they represent a majority of the party these days.
 
2013-08-06 01:52:52 PM

vernonFL: Oooh, look at ME! I read The Economist!

What do you read? Time? Newsweek? Those are for people who can't handle a real news magazine like the one I read. That's because you're not as smart or sophisticated as me.

On weekends, I like to sit out on my porch in my wicker chair with my bifocals and my subscription copy of The Economist. Then, when I go to a professor's wine-and-cheese party later that night, I can casually mention all the fancy stuff I read about NASA and Venezuela and Gen. Pervez Musharraf in my fancy magazine and impress everybody.

Question: Do you think I'm smarter than everyone else because I read The Economist, or do I read The Economist because I'm smarter than everyone else? Now, there's a conundrum! I should mail that one in to The Economist and see what they think!

I say, old chap, here comes Lord Smartingford of Braintonshire! Shall we dine upon a nice cup of tea, then? We can discuss the economy, and the global situ-AYYY-tion, and ever so many other matters! I am so very versed in such matters, reading as do I The Economist, just as soon as the postman delivers it by the estate, don't you know. I find that only the right cracking coverage of The E-CON-omist keeps me jolly-well informed and all that, wouldn't you agree? Mmm, yes, I did think you would!


upload.wikimedia.org

Unimpressed by the number of magazines you read.
 
2013-08-06 01:53:00 PM

Raharu: [img197.imageshack.us image 650x976]


Libertarianism: internally consistent, externally retarded.
 
2013-08-06 01:53:51 PM
I believe it.  After all, there are no other reasons to attack Rand Paul.

*snort*
 
2013-08-06 01:54:16 PM

Parthenogenetic: MindStalker: vernonFL: Oooh, look at ME! I read The Economist!

Alright, vernonFL, its been a long time coming, but you finally won Green 3 status.

*ahem*  Not to detract from vernonFL's many good qualities, but...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/according-to-the-economist-nasa-is- an -industrial-s,11532/?ref=auto


Damnit, and I see he's not in Florida anymore.  vernon, I'll have to claim that beer sometime.
 
2013-08-06 01:54:17 PM
They're attacking pants on head retarded economic policy. One might think, because it's The Economist. Whether or not you are Libertarian, and whatever flavor of Libertarian you are, matters less than the quality of the stoopid you spout.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-08-06 01:55:01 PM

ikanreed: Raharu: [img197.imageshack.us image 650x976]

Libertarianism: internally consistent, externally retarded.


The Rand Paul Libertarianism isn't consistent at all.  That's the problem.  Rand Paul Libertarianism is more like "corporate person good, real person bad."
 
2013-08-06 01:56:44 PM

TuteTibiImperes: How are being anti-abortion and anti-marriage equality libertarian positions?


Because Jesus.
 
2013-08-06 01:56:44 PM
Today's Libertarians....

1-Leave me alone...unless I'm in trouble or pregnant.

2-Let the corporations run EVERYTHING!

3-Legal weed.
 
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