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(Wired)   Happy 20th birthday, Apple Newton. You never quite egg freckles   (wired.com) divider line 52
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2013-08-06 09:54:42 AM
lol my dad had one.  the text recognition was exactly as bad as it gets mocked for, if not worse.

/eat up Martha
 
2013-08-06 10:18:17 AM
Someone tried to tell me that a later, phone version of the Newton was proof apple was ripping off someone that ripped off the Newton.

Suck it Fanboi haters.
 
2013-08-06 10:21:10 AM
done in one
 
2013-08-06 10:29:24 AM
Ian is riding a taste sensation.
 
2013-08-06 10:37:25 AM
One of the programmers in my office has a newton.  He was writing some basic software for it for fun.
 
2013-08-06 10:51:05 AM

nekom: lol my dad had one.  the text recognition was exactly as bad as it gets mocked for, if not worse.

/eat up Martha


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2013-08-06 10:55:21 AM
Came here hoping to talk about how delicious apple newtons were, leaving disappointed
 
2013-08-06 10:56:08 AM
I didn't even ducking know that thing existed until I saw it on the Simpsons.
 
2013-08-06 11:03:34 AM
Q: How many Apple Newtons does it take to change a lightbulb?

A: Froth! Mung abba zeeprot, tle resl imna fuggut!

/Happy 20th birthday, very old joke too.
 
2013-08-06 11:11:31 AM

ABQGOD: done in one headline

 
2013-08-06 11:16:15 AM

nekom: lol my dad had one.  the text recognition was exactly as bad as it gets mocked for, if not worse.

/eat up Martha


It got much better after the laughter died down. Newton OS 2.1 has very, very good recognition that's still impressive today. But then Steve Jobs took over and Newton got axed in the reorganization.
 
2013-08-06 11:19:01 AM
I remember one of my college friends being so proud that he had got one, that he desperately tried to ignore that fact that he spent 3x as long trying to take class notes on it as anyone else did.
 
2013-08-06 11:20:30 AM
 
2013-08-06 11:21:48 AM
The only Apple Newtons worth enjoying.
i.walmartimages.com
 
2013-08-06 11:29:05 AM
Saw a FOR SALE notice once about fifteen years back that said
"Scratchy news Walton lies perhaps"

with the original message that had been attempted
"Slightly used Newton 110 package"

and the aside
(Now you know why I'm selling it.)
 
2013-08-06 11:33:28 AM

Honest Bender: One of the programmers in my office has a newton.  He was writing some basic software for it for fun.


The 2000, for the time, was great. I was able to insert a PCMCIA card which allowed a modem connection via cell phone. For back in 1998, that was almost godlike. 14.4b web browsing in gray scale... aw yeah. Good times. Gray times, but good times.
 
2013-08-06 11:43:49 AM

Bindyree: Saw a FOR SALE notice once about fifteen years back that said
"Scratchy news Walton lies perhaps"

with the original message that had been attempted
"Slightly used Newton 110 package"

and the aside
(Now you know why I'm selling it.)


There was a shorter version on USENET, just a subject line of "Appel Newton fore sail".
 
2013-08-06 11:45:29 AM
We had a whole sales force that carried those. When they came into the office and set it down in front of a Jeteye Infrared interface and downloaded all of the days contracts.
 
2013-08-06 11:48:40 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
No love?
 
2013-08-06 11:59:23 AM

KarmicDisaster: SNL parody of the Newton


I couldn't read any of those messages, the video quality was for shiat, were they intentionally misspelled, or was it just running on the concept of shelling out $200 each for like 20 of these and them leaving them where anyone can walk off with them?
 
2013-08-06 12:05:11 PM

Mikey1969: KarmicDisaster: SNL parody of the Newton

I couldn't read any of those messages, the video quality was for shiat, were they intentionally misspelled, or was it just running on the concept of shelling out $200 each for like 20 of these and them leaving them where anyone can walk off with them?


Yeah, sorry, crummy quality, the funny part was how everything was spelled wrong and then slowly corrected to stuff like "your girlfiend", plus how dumb compared to using a piece of paper.
 
2013-08-06 12:23:36 PM
AXE GRAVY SOUP
 
2013-08-06 12:27:39 PM
I used one for a while.  It was hot garbage.  It got hot, and it was garbage.  I heard the handwriting recognition got better later, but I had given up by that point.
 
2013-08-06 12:38:19 PM

KarmicDisaster: Mikey1969: KarmicDisaster: SNL parody of the Newton

I couldn't read any of those messages, the video quality was for shiat, were they intentionally misspelled, or was it just running on the concept of shelling out $200 each for like 20 of these and them leaving them where anyone can walk off with them?

Yeah, sorry, crummy quality, the funny part was how everything was spelled wrong and then slowly corrected to stuff like "your girlfiend", plus how dumb compared to using a piece of paper.


Sweet, that's kinda what I thought, but I couldn't tell. I figured as much, since SNL usually does awesome commercials.
 
2013-08-06 12:46:52 PM
www.iphonesavior.com
 
2013-08-06 12:56:04 PM
I remember seeing them on sale and thinking that they sure looked cool.

Then there was the PalmOS that went from trying to interpret handwriting to using a simplified alphabet... that seemed to work way better. Of course, I think there's also a reason that none of the modern smartphones bother trying to use handwriting recognition.
 
2013-08-06 12:57:41 PM
Switching subjects, does anyone else remember that little moose that was an add-on program to the early Macintosh?  He'd pop in and say silly things like "A møøse once bit my sister" in a cheesy early text to voice emulator.
 
2013-08-06 12:58:18 PM

akula: I remember seeing them on sale and thinking that they sure looked cool.

Then there was the PalmOS that went from trying to interpret handwriting to using a simplified alphabet... that seemed to work way better. Of course, I think there's also a reason that none of the modern smartphones bother trying to use handwriting recognition.


Mine does (Galaxy Note 2).  And it kind of sucks.
 
2013-08-06 01:15:33 PM
I love the simpsons references but does anyone remember Steven Segeals extensive use of the Newton in Under Siege 2?
 
2013-08-06 01:15:44 PM

Skleenar: Switching subjects, does anyone else remember that little moose that was an add-on program to the early Macintosh?  He'd pop in and say silly things like "A møøse once bit my sister" in a cheesy early text to voice emulator.


http://talkingmoose.ca/
 
2013-08-06 01:19:26 PM
I have a Newton in a drawer somewhere. It worked fine with Graffiti installed, except that then there was no memory left.
 
2013-08-06 01:22:24 PM

akula: Of course, I think there's also a reason that none of the modern smartphones bother trying to use handwriting recognition.


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2013-08-06 01:46:27 PM

Browncoat: akula: Of course, I think there's also a reason that none of the modern smartphones bother trying to use handwriting recognition.

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He said "modern smart phones".
 
2013-08-06 01:47:22 PM
The human brain can't even interpret my handwriting, so I don't see a computer ever being able to.
 
2013-08-06 01:52:23 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: He said "modern smart phones".


Just because Apple hasn't figured it out doesn't mean nobody else has.
 
2013-08-06 01:54:53 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Browncoat: akula: Of course, I think there's also a reason that none of the modern smartphones bother trying to use handwriting recognition.

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He said "modern smart phones".


Hey! The S-Pen is pretty farkin' cool. It works a hell of a lot better than Apple's handwriting recognition ever did. It's capable of discerning 1,024 levels of pressure. It doesn't even have to touch the screen to work effectively.
 
2013-08-06 01:58:54 PM

nekom: lol my dad had one.  the text recognition was exactly as bad as it gets mocked for, if not worse.

/eat up Martha


Came in for this, leaving happy.
 
2013-08-06 02:23:54 PM

ZeroCorpse: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Browncoat: akula: Of course, I think there's also a reason that none of the modern smartphones bother trying to use handwriting recognition.

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He said "modern smart phones".

Hey! The S-Pen is pretty farkin' cool. It works a hell of a lot better than Apple's handwriting recognition ever did. It's capable of discerning 1,024 levels of pressure. It doesn't even have to touch the screen to work effectively.


Your modern device works better than something from 20 years ago? Good for you!
 
2013-08-06 02:34:33 PM

DerpHerder: I love the simpsons references but does anyone remember Steven Segeals extensive use of the Newton in Under Siege 2?


There was an Under Siege 2?
 
2013-08-06 02:41:23 PM

Skleenar: akula: I remember seeing them on sale and thinking that they sure looked cool.

Then there was the PalmOS that went from trying to interpret handwriting to using a simplified alphabet... that seemed to work way better. Of course, I think there's also a reason that none of the modern smartphones bother trying to use handwriting recognition.

Mine does (Galaxy Note 2).  And it kind of sucks.


Ah, I didn't know they were still fiddling with that.

Still, if it were all that great (they have had 20 years to tweak the technology) more things would use it... they don't. It seems like the devices that might benefit from it just end up having their users prefer BT keyboards instead. Less trouble for the device and no real speed penalty (maybe even a speed boost from a KB; I type faster than I write).
 
2013-08-06 02:42:50 PM

Tax Boy: DerpHerder: I love the simpsons references but does anyone remember Steven Segeals extensive use of the Newton in Under Siege 2?

There was an Under Siege 2?


Fewer tits, same amount of Seagal. There's a reason nobody remembers it,
 
2013-08-06 02:50:29 PM

Tax Boy: DerpHerder: I love the simpsons references but does anyone remember Steven Segeals extensive use of the Newton in Under Siege 2?

There was an Under Siege 2?


I saw a part of that on tv not too long ago. He uses a Newton to send a fax, I think.
 
2013-08-06 02:57:15 PM

Browncoat: Tax Boy: DerpHerder: I love the simpsons references but does anyone remember Steven Segeals extensive use of the Newton in Under Siege 2?

There was an Under Siege 2?

Fewer tits, same amount of Seagal. There's a reason nobody remembers it,


and a 14 year old Katherine Heigl
 
2013-08-06 03:05:42 PM

DerpHerder: I love the simpsons references but does anyone remember Steven Segeals extensive use of the Newton in Under Siege 2?


ahem

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2013-08-06 05:20:06 PM

Browncoat: akula: Of course, I think there's also a reason that none of the modern smartphones bother trying to use handwriting recognition.
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And hand writing recognition works pretty well on the Samsung Galaxy Note.  I still don't use it.
 
2013-08-06 05:58:13 PM

akula: Then there was the PalmOS that went from trying to interpret handwriting to using a simplified alphabet... that seemed to work way better.


Ah yes, Grafitti. It actually worked pretty well. After a bit of practice, you could probably get about 3/4 the speed of regular (hand) printing, and it was fairly accurate. Windows even used it in WinMo till at least as late as 6.0.
 
2013-08-06 06:17:43 PM

akula: I remember seeing them on sale and thinking that they sure looked cool.

Then there was the PalmOS that went from trying to interpret handwriting to using a simplified alphabet... that seemed to work way better. Of course, I think there's also a reason that none of the modern smartphones bother trying to use handwriting recognition.


Samsung note does.
 
2013-08-06 06:18:24 PM

Tax Boy: DerpHerder: I love the simpsons references but does anyone remember Steven Segeals extensive use of the Newton in Under Siege 2?

There was an Under Siege 2?


It was on a train, and him using the newton is the only reason I remember it.
 
2013-08-06 08:36:18 PM

akula: I remember seeing them on sale and thinking that they sure looked cool.

Then there was the PalmOS that went from trying to interpret handwriting to using a simplified alphabet... that seemed to work way better. Of course, I think there's also a reason that none of the modern smartphones bother trying to use handwriting recognition.


Yeah, it is hilarious that the tablet and smart market finally exploded when they ditched the stylus and trying to do handwriting input. It's always going to be a niche thing that regular users just don't fark with.
 
2013-08-07 03:05:16 AM

Mad_Radhu: It's always going to be a niche thing that regular users just don't fark with.


You have to remember, at the time "typing" was still a skill people trained specifically for professional use, not just an ordinary skill we expected everyone to have. Typing was certainly becoming more prevalent, but if you were looking to sell expensive devices to rich, old people, you couldn't assume they were willing or able to type.
 
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