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(ABC)   That town meeting shooting last night? Yeah, that was due to a property dispute between the owner and the town. I mean that was the best way to handle such things, right?   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 260
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2013-08-06 10:37:03 AM

Lady J: StrangeQ: monoski: dittybopper: durbnpoisn: The flaw in your argument lies in the fact that he had no problem affording the weapons and ammunition.

So, yeah, because he could afford to spend a couple hundred bucks for some guns that he likely bought decades ago, he can afford to put in a $40,000 septic system.

Money or not, you cannot just crap in buckets and dump it around your property. It is a health hazard to anyone who lives downstream from the home.

So bury it in the ground, problem solved.  Why is it that bears, deer, rabbits and raccoons can shiat in the woods, but when it human does it suddenly becomes a biological hazard?

a) because we're meat eaters
b) we're not cool with a big parasite load, like wild animals are


a) Bears, wolves, raccoons, coyotes, and foxes all stopped eating meat?
b) you mean humans don't have parasites or humans cannot handle parasites?

/don't shiat and bury it in the ground
//that's gross. use a sanitary alternative
 
2013-08-06 10:38:58 AM

redmid17: No. He was wrong to shoot the people nor do I understand. It seems like the town is grinding their axe to an douchetastic extent.


How dare a local government so swiftly condemn the man's Sh*t Shack, I was going to say sh*thole but it appears he wasn't smart enough to dig a hole to bury his own sh*t, after 18 years! Fight the government, man!
 
2013-08-06 10:40:10 AM

Outrageous Muff: redmid17: No. He was wrong to shoot the people nor do I understand. It seems like the town is grinding their axe to an douchetastic extent.

How dare a local government so swiftly condemn the man's Sh*t Shack, I was going to say sh*thole but it appears he wasn't smart enough to dig a hole to bury his own sh*t, after 18 years! Fight the government, man!


He has/had a composting toilet. Since you are ill-equipped to look that up, here's a link:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet

And yes they are legal in PA.
 
2013-08-06 10:47:04 AM

dittybopper: monoski: dittybopper: durbnpoisn: The flaw in your argument lies in the fact that he had no problem affording the weapons and ammunition.

So, yeah, because he could afford to spend a couple hundred bucks for some guns that he likely bought decades ago, he can afford to put in a $40,000 septic system.

Money or not, you cannot just crap in buckets and dump it around your property. It is a health hazard to anyone who lives downstream from the home.

You don't know he did that.  He claims he had a composting toilet.  That's a completely legit way to handle human waste, and you don't know that he was dumping it around his property.  Not even the town made that claim.


And you don't know he had a composting toilet, though I don't understand why the reporter didn't find out who was in the right about that particular dispute.
 
2013-08-06 10:48:09 AM

Lady J: StrangeQ: monoski: dittybopper: durbnpoisn: The flaw in your argument lies in the fact that he had no problem affording the weapons and ammunition.

So, yeah, because he could afford to spend a couple hundred bucks for some guns that he likely bought decades ago, he can afford to put in a $40,000 septic system.

Money or not, you cannot just crap in buckets and dump it around your property. It is a health hazard to anyone who lives downstream from the home.

So bury it in the ground, problem solved.  Why is it that bears, deer, rabbits and raccoons can shiat in the woods, but when it human does it suddenly becomes a biological hazard?

a) because we're meat eaters
b) we're not cool with a big parasite load, like wild animals are


You missed an important part.

Outhouses, while frowned upon these days, were an appropriate solution to the problem, as are composting toilets today.  The murderer in question claims he had a composting toilet, and that the "feces in a bucket" thing was, pardon the expression, crap:

Newell said he cannot afford septic hookup fees, uses a composting toilet and has never put human fecal matter in anything other than that toilet, but the township still requires him to get a septic permit.

Now, maybe the guy was lying, maybe the town was lying.  Either way, it would have been possible to work with him to come up with a way to satisfy both the need for adequate sanitation within his low fixed income.  It doesn't sound like they wanted to do that.

As I've said, that's no reason to kill innocent people (or even the not-so-innocent), but it does seem as if he was backed into a corner from which he had very few options.  At the end, he was living in his 1984 Pontiac Fiero, which seems cruel and inhuman.
 
2013-08-06 10:55:16 AM

redmid17: /don't shiat and bury it in the ground
//that's gross. use a sanitary alternative


Actually, that *IS* a sanitary alternative when done correctly.  And it's not hard to do correctly.
 
2013-08-06 11:01:15 AM

BSABSVR: dittybopper: monoski: dittybopper: durbnpoisn: The flaw in your argument lies in the fact that he had no problem affording the weapons and ammunition.

So, yeah, because he could afford to spend a couple hundred bucks for some guns that he likely bought decades ago, he can afford to put in a $40,000 septic system.

Money or not, you cannot just crap in buckets and dump it around your property. It is a health hazard to anyone who lives downstream from the home.

You don't know he did that.  He claims he had a composting toilet.  That's a completely legit way to handle human waste, and you don't know that he was dumping it around his property.  Not even the town made that claim.

And you don't know he had a composting toilet, though I don't understand why the reporter didn't find out who was in the right about that particular dispute.


The township said he needed a permit for his composting toilet, which implies that he actually had one and that they knew that, but it's not 100% certain that is the objective truth of the matter.
 
2013-08-06 11:01:59 AM

dittybopper: redmid17: /don't shiat and bury it in the ground
//that's gross. use a sanitary alternative

Actually, that *IS* a sanitary alternative when done correctly.  And it's not hard to do correctly.


A composting toilet would be a sanitary alternative. I meant don't literally dig only a hole to shiat it and then cover it up. That's gross.
 
2013-08-06 11:12:55 AM

redmid17: dittybopper: redmid17: /don't shiat and bury it in the ground
//that's gross. use a sanitary alternative

Actually, that *IS* a sanitary alternative when done correctly.  And it's not hard to do correctly.

A composting toilet would be a sanitary alternative. I meant don't literally dig only a hole to shiat it and then cover it up. That's gross.


You know how I know you've never been out of the city or gone camping?
 
2013-08-06 11:14:41 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: HotWingConspiracy: Spade: Maybe the government shouldn't have tried to run a guy off his land through an expensive regulatory scheme?

Small town in NEPA so you can assume it is corrupt as hell.

According to previous reports, Newell got a building permit from the township to have a storage structure on the property, but then built a dwelling without first getting a zoning permit or certificate of occupancy from the township.

Over the years, authorities have responded to Newell's property as a result of neighbor complaints and on one occasion in 2009 found human fecal matter in buckets there, according to previous reports in the Pocono Record.

The township determined he was improperly disposing of sewage with no septic system or permit for one.

Yeah they totally deserved to die for crossing this asshole.

If the hillbilly wants to shiat in a bucket, let him. It's rural rock patch at the base of the Pocono Mts. Not even decent farm country. Shale and conifers.

They have a saying around there, Leave these old kooks be, or you might get shot.


Perfect argument for culling gun owners.
 
2013-08-06 11:15:18 AM

durbnpoisn: No, actually, they weren't wrong. I DNRTA, but I watched the news this morning. Did you see what that guy's property looked like. The council in question was WELL within their jurisdiction to have that property condemned. If he could take the time to go and shoot a bunch of people up, he could have taken the time to clean his damn property - maybe even have a septic system installed.


THANK YOU. Doesn't anyone give a damn that this guy had been living in an illegal structure on that property for 18 years and CRAPPING IN BUCKETS? For fark's sake...if that doesn't warrant condemnation I don't know what does.  Everyone has their panties in a wad over gun laws...this guy was a wacko regardless.  He probably would have done this some other, possibly more horrifying way, AKA homegrown explosives, if he didn't have a gun.
 
2013-08-06 11:19:36 AM

joness0154: redmid17: dittybopper: redmid17: /don't shiat and bury it in the ground
//that's gross. use a sanitary alternative

Actually, that *IS* a sanitary alternative when done correctly.  And it's not hard to do correctly.

A composting toilet would be a sanitary alternative. I meant don't literally dig only a hole to shiat it and then cover it up. That's gross.

You know how I know you've never been out of the city or gone camping?


Context is a difficult thing to see, but we are talking about a space where people live and a long-term occupation of said land. Pissing in the woods or shiatting and wiping with a leaf is fine when you're camping. It's not when you have to worry about water sanitation and other local regulations.

However you can come turkey or deer hunting with me this fall if you're going to be in Wisconsin or Indiana. Drop me a line.
 
2013-08-06 11:21:05 AM

DrewFL: durbnpoisn: No, actually, they weren't wrong. I DNRTA, but I watched the news this morning. Did you see what that guy's property looked like. The council in question was WELL within their jurisdiction to have that property condemned. If he could take the time to go and shoot a bunch of people up, he could have taken the time to clean his damn property - maybe even have a septic system installed.

THANK YOU. Doesn't anyone give a damn that this guy had been living in an illegal structure on that property for 18 years and CRAPPING IN BUCKETS? For fark's sake...if that doesn't warrant condemnation I don't know what does.  Everyone has their panties in a wad over gun laws...this guy was a wacko regardless.  He probably would have done this some other, possibly more horrifying way, AKA homegrown explosives, if he didn't have a gun.


Ah someone else who hasn't read anything else about the topic and didn't even skim over the thread:

http://m.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130610/NEWS/3 06 100327&template=wapart
 
2013-08-06 11:21:58 AM

redmid17: dittybopper: redmid17: /don't shiat and bury it in the ground
//that's gross. use a sanitary alternative

Actually, that *IS* a sanitary alternative when done correctly.  And it's not hard to do correctly.

A composting toilet would be a sanitary alternative. I meant don't literally dig only a hole to shiat it and then cover it up. That's gross.


Depends on how deep the hole is.  Nature can take care of it quite well if you dig a decent pit, and make sure to cover it afterwards.  As I recall from my camping days, a 6" hole was adequate for a single "session".   You obviously don't want to do it right next to a water source, though.

It might seem gross, but biologically, there's little danger if done correctly.
 
2013-08-06 11:23:50 AM

escherblacksmith: PunGent: CarnySaur: "This land is my land
This land is my land
This land is my land
This land is my land
This land is my land
This land is my land
This land was made for only me."

- Woody Guthrie

"This land is my land
It's not your land
I've got a shotgun
You haven't got one
This land was made for me not you..."

- my property law professor

As I recall from being a precocious youngster in the 70s . . .

"This land is my land
This land is not your land
I've got a shotgun
and you haven't got one
So you better get off,
or I'll blast you head off,
This land was made for only me . . ."

There were other lyrics, but that is all I recall . . .

\\ oh the violent songs we knew pre-present day issues
\ "Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to school we go, with razor blades and hand grenades . . ."


"Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's home from school we go, with razor cuts and blown-up butts...."
 
2013-08-06 11:24:52 AM
Hey, when that old man tells you to get off his lawn, you GET THE FARK OFF OF HIS LAWN!
 
2013-08-06 11:25:02 AM
Redmid17, supporting murderers expressing their "freedoms" since 2005.
 
2013-08-06 11:25:03 AM

dittybopper: redmid17: dittybopper: redmid17: /don't shiat and bury it in the ground
//that's gross. use a sanitary alternative

Actually, that *IS* a sanitary alternative when done correctly.  And it's not hard to do correctly.

A composting toilet would be a sanitary alternative. I meant don't literally dig only a hole to shiat it and then cover it up. That's gross.

Depends on how deep the hole is.  Nature can take care of it quite well if you dig a decent pit, and make sure to cover it afterwards.  As I recall from my camping days, a 6" hole was adequate for a single "session".   You obviously don't want to do it right next to a water source, though.

It might seem gross, but biologically, there's little danger if done correctly.


No for sure it's fine as a one-off. I was posting in context of continued habitation of the aforementioned property. I don't know anyone who's installed a composting toilet to go camping in the woods.
 
2013-08-06 11:25:44 AM

Outrageous Muff: Redmid17, supporting murderers expressing their "freedoms" since 2005.


Wow you are almost as bad as Whidbey, but your reading comprehension is far, far worse.
 
2013-08-06 11:26:50 AM
I think a guy crazy enough to shoot up a town hall is also crazy enough to shiat in a bucket and claim it was a composting toilet.

I want to know what the neighbor complaints were about.  Did he threaten them, did he shoot guns onto their property, was there a far-reaching smell?  Or were they just complaining about his shack harming their home price?  Since the guy is provably crazy, I'm inclined to give the neighbors and town council the benefit of the doubt.
 
2013-08-06 11:27:13 AM

LasersHurt: dittybopper: durbnpoisn: The flaw in your argument lies in the fact that he had no problem affording the weapons and ammunition.

So, yeah, because he could afford to spend a couple hundred bucks for some guns that he likely bought decades ago, he can afford to put in a $40,000 septic system.

Jesus christ what does a septic system cost where you live holy shiat...

While I am sympathetic to this guy too, he had many many many years to try to improve things, too.


At my work place we just put in three septic systems.  Total cost was maybe 24-30 grand.
 
2013-08-06 11:28:03 AM

redmid17: Wow you are almost as bad as Whidbey, but your reading comprehension is far, far worse.


So far you've done nothing but support the argument of the murderer that the government didn't have the right to demand he clean up his property and follow the law in the township that says if you have a residential structure you need a septic system.
 
2013-08-06 11:28:21 AM

redmid17: Context is a difficult thing to see, but we are talking about a space where people live and a long-term occupation of said land. Pissing in the woods or shiatting and wiping with a leaf is fine when you're camping. It's not when you have to worry about water sanitation and other local regulations.


This is the context we are talking about, a largely uninhabited wooded area that is in a valley and lower than all the other homes in the area:


https://maps.google.com/maps?q=flyte+road+ross+pa&ie=UTF-8&hl=en
 
2013-08-06 11:29:14 AM
Shooting up a town meeting does not lend credibility to a claim of mistreatment.
 
2013-08-06 11:30:35 AM

Satanic_Hamster: At my work place we just put in three septic systems.  Total cost was maybe 24-30 grand.


You think the guy could afford $8k to $10k?  I don't.
 
2013-08-06 11:30:43 AM
This proves that in this country, it is ILLEGAL to be poor. It is even MORE ILLEGAL to be a poor property owner because the elites will harass, intimidate and bully you into submission.
 
2013-08-06 11:32:34 AM

redmid17: Outrageous Muff: redmid17: No. He was wrong to shoot the people nor do I understand. It seems like the town is grinding their axe to an douchetastic extent.

How dare a local government so swiftly condemn the man's Sh*t Shack, I was going to say sh*thole but it appears he wasn't smart enough to dig a hole to bury his own sh*t, after 18 years! Fight the government, man!

He has/had a composting toilet. Since you are ill-equipped to look that up, here's a link:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet

And yes they are legal in PA.


No. He *CLAIMED* he has/had a composting toilet.

He also felt shooting randomly through a wall where he held a grievance with *some* of the people in attendance (unless literally everyone in the town was conspiring against him?) was an alright method of conflict resolution.

Perhaps we should not take his judgements at face value.
 
2013-08-06 11:32:36 AM

Outrageous Muff: redmid17: Wow you are almost as bad as Whidbey, but your reading comprehension is far, far worse.

So far you've done nothing but support the argument of the murderer that the government didn't have the right to demand he clean up his property and follow the law in the township that says if you have a residential structure you need a septic system.


No I said the government had had an axe to grind. They falsified his permit documentation. They botched his culvert installation 1) by allowing it and 2) by explicitly dictating out-of-spec requirements, through either incompetence or malice. I have also repeatedly condemned his violence.

The township doesn't really have a say in sewage requirements. It's state run in PA. Either way, a septic tank is not required. Look up requirements for sewage disposal and the subsection calling out composting toilets.

Isn't half-day kindergarten almost over?
 
2013-08-06 11:33:04 AM

Frizbone: This proves that in this country, it is ILLEGAL to be poor. It is even MORE ILLEGAL to be a poor property owner because the elites will harass, intimidate and bully you into submission.


No, it shows that it's illegal to buy a piece of property, lie to the government that you're building a business there and instead build a "home", then spend 18 years saying you're above basic zoning laws.
 
2013-08-06 11:35:40 AM

redmid17: No I said the government had had an axe to grind. They falsified his permit documentation. They botched his culvert installation 1) by allowing it and 2) by explicitly dictating out-of-spec requirements, through either incompetence or malice. I have also repeatedly condemned his violence.

The township doesn't really have a say in sewage requirements. It's state run in PA. Either way, a septic tank is not required. Look up requirements for sewage disposal and the subsection calling out composting toilets.


Prove the falsified documents. Prove they knowingly botched his culvert work. Then show me where the state of PA controls septic instillation for local government zoning laws.
 
2013-08-06 11:36:18 AM

redmid17: No for sure it's fine as a one-off. I was posting in context of continued habitation of the aforementioned property. I don't know anyone who's installed a composting toilet to go camping in the woods.


Actually, you *CAN* get them for that kind of use.   Here's a composting toilet on Etsy, and it uses a 5 gallon bucket.  So perhaps both the town and the murderer were right:  He's using a composting toilet that uses a 5 gallon bucket as a temporary waste storage, and he's got a compost pile for when that is full.
 
2013-08-06 11:36:55 AM

Felgraf: redmid17: Outrageous Muff: redmid17: No. He was wrong to shoot the people nor do I understand. It seems like the town is grinding their axe to an douchetastic extent.

How dare a local government so swiftly condemn the man's Sh*t Shack, I was going to say sh*thole but it appears he wasn't smart enough to dig a hole to bury his own sh*t, after 18 years! Fight the government, man!

He has/had a composting toilet. Since you are ill-equipped to look that up, here's a link:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet

And yes they are legal in PA.

No. He *CLAIMED* he has/had a composting toilet.

He also felt shooting randomly through a wall where he held a grievance with *some* of the people in attendance (unless literally everyone in the town was conspiring against him?) was an alright method of conflict resolution.

Perhaps we should not take his judgements at face value.


Well he was right about the culvert and the falsified building permit, both townships actions. Pardon me if I'm predisposed to someone who wasn't caught lying in court.
 
2013-08-06 11:37:32 AM

dittybopper: redmid17: No for sure it's fine as a one-off. I was posting in context of continued habitation of the aforementioned property. I don't know anyone who's installed a composting toilet to go camping in the woods.

Actually, you *CAN* get them for that kind of use.   Here's a composting toilet on Etsy, and it uses a 5 gallon bucket.  So perhaps both the town and the murderer were right:  He's using a composting toilet that uses a 5 gallon bucket as a temporary waste storage, and he's got a compost pile for when that is full.


The more you know.
 
2013-08-06 11:41:16 AM

Outrageous Muff: redmid17: No I said the government had had an axe to grind. They falsified his permit documentation. They botched his culvert installation 1) by allowing it and 2) by explicitly dictating out-of-spec requirements, through either incompetence or malice. I have also repeatedly condemned his violence.

The township doesn't really have a say in sewage requirements. It's state run in PA. Either way, a septic tank is not required. Look up requirements for sewage disposal and the subsection calling out composting toilets.

Prove the falsified documents. Prove they knowingly botched his culvert work. Then show me where the state of PA controls septic instillation for local government zoning laws.


http://m.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130610/NEWS/3 06 100327&template=wapart


http://www.elibrary.dep.state.pa.us/dsweb/Get/Document-52064/Act%205 37 %20of%201965.pdf
 
2013-08-06 11:42:15 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Shooting up a town meeting does not lend credibility to a claim of mistreatment.


Well, at that point, what did he really have to lose?

Seems to me, in the final analysis, this guy just wanted to be left alone.  He was pushing sixty years old, unable to work and on a fixed income.  How many years did he have left?  Ten, maybe fifteen?   The situation was going to resolve itself eventually.  It's not like the guy was in his mid-30s.

Still no excuse for killing people.
 
2013-08-06 11:44:07 AM
I'm fascinated by the people in this thread who are are mooning over this guy as though he were some hybrid of Samuel Adams and one of the kids from One Direction.  If his name had be D'Tyreke Newell, those same people would be screaming about irresponsible people buying what they can't afford.

He wanted a place to live and I get that, but he didn't think about the maintenance cost of owning shiat.  Once he started fighting with what sounds like a vindictive Town government (over what appears to be trying to build a dwelling under storage unit codes to save $), it just escalated.  He got hosed by DEP, sure, but that was icing on the cake.  He was behind on his taxes, and regardless of his pooping situation, he was continuing to use his land as a dumping site.

There's no good guys here, and just because someone happens to be near Town hall during a public meeting doesn't make them a bad guy.


/For those of you cheering him on, put up or shut up.
 
2013-08-06 12:00:09 PM

KrispyKritter: Wish i had the balls the Link land owner does. My Mom's house where I was raised, along with 4 neighbors houses are months away from being unsellable and devalued (yet their taxes will not go down) thanks to the town council members wisdom.
Those 5 houses are on a short hilly street. In the back yards is a fence running perpendicular

Our family lived there over 50 years.


And yet you never learned what perpendicular means...

/or, get a reverse mortgage, stop paying taxes, let the city and mortgage company fight it out over the house ;)
 
2013-08-06 12:07:22 PM
Small town politics is some serious shiat!
 
2013-08-06 12:08:36 PM
Local government is the worst, that's for sure. I would never shoot anyone on the town council but the biggest annoyance by government in my life has been at the hands of local government. Giving these kinds of people more power is the last thing you want to do, give me giant faceless bureaucracy over local town douchebags anyday.
 
2013-08-06 12:16:09 PM

BSABSVR: He was behind on his taxes,


Are you sure?  I saw an article mentioning he was on a payment plan, but that doesn't necessarily imply he was in arrears.  My father is on a payment plan because his house is paid for, so the taxes no longer are rolled into his mortgage payment, and it's easier to pay the money to the town on a monthly or semi-monthly basis than to have to cough it up in a lump sum once a year.
 
2013-08-06 12:17:06 PM

StrangeQ: monoski: dittybopper: durbnpoisn: The flaw in your argument lies in the fact that he had no problem affording the weapons and ammunition.

So, yeah, because he could afford to spend a couple hundred bucks for some guns that he likely bought decades ago, he can afford to put in a $40,000 septic system.

Money or not, you cannot just crap in buckets and dump it around your property. It is a health hazard to anyone who lives downstream from the home.

So bury it in the ground, problem solved.  Why is it that bears, deer, rabbits and raccoons can shiat in the woods, but when it human does it suddenly becomes a biological hazard?


Remind me not to move next door to you. Sewer and Septic systems are for civilized people.
 
2013-08-06 12:18:45 PM

dittybopper: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Shooting up a town meeting does not lend credibility to a claim of mistreatment.

Well, at that point, what did he really have to lose?

Seems to me, in the final analysis, this guy just wanted to be left alone.  He was pushing sixty years old, unable to work and on a fixed income.  How many years did he have left?  Ten, maybe fifteen?   The situation was going to resolve itself eventually.  It's not like the guy was in his mid-30s.

Still no excuse for killing people.


Hey, I'm the same age as he is and I'd like to be left alone, too. I have three properties I own and manage. I'm not rich. I don't own more than I can afford to own. If my septic system goes belly up I have to get a new one or I can't live here anymore.  Seriously, people biatching constantly about people getting mortgages for houses they can't afford are now biatching because people don't understand that laws don't discriminate based on whims and eccentricities. I swear, most of you who are complaining are either renting or living in mom's basement and have no idea how property ownership works.

The guy SAYS he had a composting toilet, but even if he does, if he didn't get a permit for it, it has to go. It has to be inspected and verified. It is your responsibility to know what you need to get permits for and what you don't. They found buckets of shiat at his house, you don't let buckets of shiat sit around before you put them in the composter, that's not how it works. So what if they were 5 gallon buckets? The county said they were raw sewage. And "falsified" the documents? They didn't falsify them, you can NOT live in what local governments call "sheds." It is NOT legal. There is a legal definition for a shed, and it is NOT to be used a dwelling. If you want to convert a shed to a dwelling, you need to get permits for water, septic, electricity and so on and then build to code.

Jesus! I can't believe the stupid in this thread.
 
2013-08-06 12:27:20 PM
dittybopper:

Also, you are allowed to live in a shed with minimum stuff in it.   People do it all the time.

These are not sheds by definition. Why don't you show me on that Wikipedia page where it says you can move and install and live in one of these small houses without getting permits? You CANT.

Unlike you, I have actual experience with this. I was given free and moved three very modest historic buildings to a lot I own. I had to get permits to move the buildings, and I had to get permits to make the house inhabitable, meaning I had to get a water connection of some sort (county or well), a sanitation system of some sort (sewer isn't available here so I got a septic system, since just a composting toilet doesn't take care of gray water), electric, plumbing, hurricane tie-downs, minimum elevation requirements, and other kinds of things the county dictates. I had to supply surveys to the county and make sure the dwellings met zoning requirements for setbacks. I had to indicate the dimensions of each structure and what it was intended for. Two of the structures were designated as SHEDS by law, and SHEDS are not inhabitable. I can convert them to dwellings but I would need to go through the same thing: permits, drawings, hookups, everything. You have no farking idea what you are talking about.
 
2013-08-06 12:32:39 PM
He certainly looks the part of the insane junk-collecting, hot-tempered lunatic.
 
2013-08-06 12:43:02 PM

LasersHurt: KrispyKritter: Wish i had the balls the Link land owner does.

You wish you had the balls to kill innocent people, eh?

StrangeQ: honestly they got exactly what was coming to them.

Has everyone lost their farking minds or what


Yes.  Farking gun nut freedom lovin murrrricans can KISS MY LILY WHITE FAT ASS

NO ONE deserves to be shot over some crap like this, and those of you cheering it, I hope one day someone you love gets the same treatment, shot by some crazy person because they followed the law and did their jobs.

Fark all you nuts.
 
2013-08-06 12:53:00 PM

dittybopper: durbnpoisn: The flaw in your argument lies in the fact that he had no problem affording the weapons and ammunition.

So, yeah, because he could afford to spend a couple hundred bucks for some guns that he likely bought decades ago, he can afford to put in a $40,000 septic system.


How about a chemical toilet? There are less expensive means of disposing of human waste that don't entail just leaving buckets of shiat all over the place.
 
2013-08-06 12:54:20 PM

Spade: Oddly enough, if you read the guy's facebook page...he wasn't right wing. Well, except on guns.


Methinks he was talking about you. But that's just my reading.
 
2013-08-06 12:54:21 PM

Doom MD: So my concealed carry is about to drop. Should I spring for an Springfield Xdm or get a 1911? I'm in NY, so I'm limited to 10 round mags (so I need big bullets that pack a lot of wallop).


1911....they have the single stack magazine that makes the grip nice and svelte and very easy to handle....plus they are just so well balanced and intuitive to use.
(The xd is nice, but why buy that frame if you can't fill it to its potential)

/these shootings suck, condolences to the families and victims.
//would like more sensible measures in place, but with the amount of guns out there we'd be closing the barn door after the herd of horses has already ran off.
 
2013-08-06 12:54:35 PM

Satanic_Hamster: LasersHurt: dittybopper: durbnpoisn: The flaw in your argument lies in the fact that he had no problem affording the weapons and ammunition.

So, yeah, because he could afford to spend a couple hundred bucks for some guns that he likely bought decades ago, he can afford to put in a $40,000 septic system.

Jesus christ what does a septic system cost where you live holy shiat...

While I am sympathetic to this guy too, he had many many many years to try to improve things, too.

At my work place we just put in three septic systems.  Total cost was maybe 24-30 grand.


Price here in Mass. varies considerably...I've seen residential property on Cape Cod that's at least $40k for septic, because it's hard to get the sandy soil to perc test properly.  This guy here, if he's far enough in the boonies, could've also been expensive because you might have to haul in equipment, etc.

Not approving the shooting, just saying.
 
2013-08-06 12:55:03 PM
Why can't people seem to be able to hold two non-mutually exclusive ideas in their mind at once?

Both sides were wrong. The Council was heavy-handed in trying to deal with an eyesore and the Codger was wrong to kill poeple over a property/financial dispute.

Which side was more wrong? I guess it depends on whether or not you belive shotting people is more serious than forcing an old man off his property and selling it to pay for the cleanup. Naturally down the road there would have been a developer who paid next to nothing and turned the property into money which would find its way to the Council members.

Even if they were out to make money off of their civic duty that still doesn't excuse his actions, just like his actions don't justify stealing from a man who had to poop into buckets.
 
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