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(Talking Points Memo)   McConnell's getting primaried and has a viable Democratic rival. This makes you happy, right? Elated? Yeah, well....your happiness is going to cause a shutdown. THANKS MITCH   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 25
    More: Asinine, Mitch McConnell, Norm Ornstein, Kentucky Republican, Claremont McKenna College, Alison Lundergan Grimes, transportation bill, government shutdown, mitigating factor  
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2013-08-06 07:34:19 AM
It was coming anyway, the turtle can't bring the far right of his party to the table, ever.
 
2013-08-06 07:38:28 AM
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2013-08-06 07:39:50 AM
Uh huh... Speaking as someone from Kentucky, failure to make a deal is what is killing his career. Not the other way around..
 
2013-08-06 07:43:41 AM
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You clowns should have listened to us. We tried to warn you.
 
2013-08-06 07:52:21 AM
The problem won't be in the Senate as McCain and his cronies will go behind McConnell's back again.

The real issue will be in the House as the Republicans don't even have to bring the issues to a vote to stop it, and Cantor is in charge of the scheduling.
 
2013-08-06 07:55:37 AM
.......your happiness is going to cause a shutdown.

No, I think it works something like this.......

1) Someone yells "McConnell might get primaried!!!"
2) Another one yells "Shake!!!!"
3) Everybody yells "Voila!!!!"

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The country's happiness has nothing to do with it.

For future reference, insert any GOP issue into #1.
 
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2013-08-06 07:59:01 AM
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Mitch McConnell has had a permanent shutdown for a long time.

How can you have that face and not be permanently constipated?
 
2013-08-06 08:01:31 AM
I think the argument is more: "If Mitch wasn't getting a reelection challenge either from the Tea Party or Grimes, he would be more apt for preventing a shut down" and he might be, but we won't know because he's going to be even more of an obstructionist douchenozzle because we want him out.

oh screw it, it's a case of "post hoc ergo propter hoc"

/a dozen lawyers in the room, yet none of you can tell me what that means?
 
2013-08-06 08:06:36 AM
""On the one hand, he knows that a government shutdown would probably destroy any chance of a GOP Senate majority next year. On the other hand, he knows that openly advocating compromise with the president could hurt him badly in a primary. "

One of the top leaders of the Republican party...proudly making the tough decisions for all Americans.
 
2013-08-06 08:19:34 AM

Dog Welder: The problem won't be in the Senate as McCain and his cronies will go behind McConnell's back again.

The real issue will be in the House as the Republicans don't even have to bring the issues to a vote to stop it, and Cantor is in charge of the scheduling.


This. McCain is enjoying buddy farking Mitch.
 
2013-08-06 08:20:46 AM
I love his democratic opponent Alison Grimes: "If doctors told Sen. McConnell he has a kidney stone, he'd refuse to pass it."
 
2013-08-06 08:26:45 AM

somedude210: /a dozen lawyers in the room, yet none of you can tell me what that means?


A dozen lawyers that don't remember Philosophy 101 and the most basic flaws in reasoning? I'd exclaim "Improbable" but, unfortunately, that sounds about right.

Apparently law school causes you to forget those freshman year courses.
 
2013-08-06 08:28:12 AM

Monkeyhouse Zendo: A dozen lawyers that don't remember Philosophy 101 and the most basic flaws in reasoning? I'd exclaim "Improbable" but, unfortunately, that sounds about right.


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2013-08-06 08:41:02 AM
Party before country. Self before party. It's the repub way.

I have little sympathy for McConnell (does anybody?) because in 2009 dozens of Democratic congressmen sacrificed their careers to make the Affordable Care Act a reality. I'd like to see Mitch McConnell sacrifice his career (and really, it's more or less over now, isn't it?) to do the right thing for his country. But he won't, because he's a self-centered narcissist who care more about himself than he does about the welfare of his constituents, or the country a a whole. Fark him.
 
2013-08-06 09:31:05 AM
Would you rather lose to the guy who says you can't stop sucking Obama's black mamba or to the gal who says you'd refuse to pass Obama's kidney stone? Talk about a tricky question.
 
2013-08-06 09:45:17 AM
There will not be a government shutdown. The GOP need the budget passed just as much as the Democrats. Probably more even as at this point nobody but the tea party folks are going to blame anyone but the GOP.

They negotiate the bills, filibuster the first round for show and then vote against a bill they know will pass without their support so they can tell their constituents they voted against Fartbongo's agenda.

The Democrats need to grow a pair and have 5 folks abstain from the next vote. Force at least one Republican to switch. Then have another abstain to force one more.
 
2013-08-06 09:54:43 AM

Serious Black: Would you rather lose to the guy who says you can't stop sucking Obama's black mamba or to the gal who says you'd refuse to pass Obama's kidney stone? Talk about a tricky question.


Actually, it was Mitch's own kidney stone that he wouldn't/couldn't pass.
 
2013-08-06 09:54:53 AM

Serious Black: Would you rather lose to the guy who says you can't stop sucking Obama's black mamba or to the gal who says you'd refuse to pass Obama's kidney stone? Talk about a tricky question.


Kentuckians sure are an unusual bunch :-P
 
2013-08-06 10:04:25 AM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: There will not be a government shutdown. The GOP need the budget passed just as much as the Democrats. Probably more even as at this point nobody but the tea party folks are going to blame anyone but the GOP.

They negotiate the bills, filibuster the first round for show and then vote against a bill they know will pass without their support so they can tell their constituents they voted against Fartbongo's agenda.

The Democrats need to grow a pair and have 5 folks abstain from the next vote. Force at least one Republican to switch. Then have another abstain to force one more.


They said the same thing about the Sequester 2 months out.  "Nothing to worry about, the GOP won't let that happen..." and it did.  Don't underestimate the amount of crazy that is in that caucus. They honestly believe the government is 100% evil and the most patriotic thing they SHOULD do is shut it down.  These are the true believers who mistook the spin talking points that usually party leaders would give with a wink and a nod as fact.     When you believe government = bad, you make the logical conclusion that a government shutdown would be good.
 
2013-08-06 10:13:00 AM
Tea Party handlers are like the old corporate raiders and nothing is local or even state politics.

Find the weakest link in a stable and gerrymandered state and funnel more out-of-state money than Jebus to take out an elder statesman. Once he's gone, the state is ripe for the picking.

Field an extremest from the local talent pool, scare the hell out of the decades-long incumbent who's going to be up against a bankroll he could never hope to fight to get him to act super wierd before the primary.

It worked in Pa with Arlen Spector replacing him with Toomey, in Texas with its most powerful, the Lt Gov putting Ted Cruz in the Senate, and now the magic has come to Kentury.
But it's really not a state thing. It's more about the weakest (and oldest) link.
 
2013-08-06 11:08:02 AM
"And stepping in at the last minute to do a budget deal or save us from breaching the debt limit would be disastrous for him."

Your Republican Party, ladies and gentlemen.
 
2013-08-06 11:52:07 AM
The real risk here isn't necessarily McConnell, it's Boehner.  A continuing resolution isn't really subject to a filibuster because it's a pure budget measure so it can always be passed by 50+1 votes in the Senate.  In the House, however, Boehner has really hogtied himself with the "majority of the majority" method of passing legislation.  If enough of his Tea Partiers defect then he'll be forced to pass the bill with the assistance of the Dems and that may cost him his speakership.
 
2013-08-06 12:02:24 PM

Stile4aly: The real risk here isn't necessarily McConnell, it's Boehner.  A continuing resolution isn't really subject to a filibuster because it's a pure budget measure so it can always be passed by 50+1 votes in the Senate.  In the House, however, Boehner has really hogtied himself with the "majority of the majority" method of passing legislation.  If enough of his Tea Partiers defect then he'll be forced to pass the bill with the assistance of the Dems and that may cost him his speakership.


And that would be his last chance to rescue his image and be remembered as anything but the worst Speaker in history.
 
2013-08-06 04:06:28 PM

Stile4aly: The real risk here isn't necessarily McConnell, it's Boehner.  A continuing resolution isn't really subject to a filibuster because it's a pure budget measure so it can always be passed by 50+1 votes in the Senate.  In the House, however, Boehner has really hogtied himself with the "majority of the majority" method of passing legislation.  If enough of his Tea Partiers defect then he'll be forced to pass the bill with the assistance of the Dems and that may cost him his speakership.


And if they shut down the government, it will cost him his speakership when the GOP gets blamed for this mess.

If they do end up making a complete clusterfark out of this, do not underestimate angry Democratic voters who will get out to the polls.
 
2013-08-06 04:38:52 PM

Dog Welder: If they do end up making a complete clusterfark out of this, do not underestimate angry Democratic voters who will get out to the polls.


Problem is, with most states redistricted by GOP controlled state houses, making those Dem voters into a Dem majority in the House is much harder than it was 10 years ago.
 
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