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2013-08-06 07:50:40 AM
My God, I had no idea what he said all these years!
 
2013-08-06 07:58:20 AM
And five months later Doctor Who aired for the first time.
The Times they were indeed a'changing.
 
2013-08-06 08:12:57 AM
and 350 years ago today some Scottish or Irish balladeer actually wrote 'Come All Ye Bold Highway Men' , 'Come All Ye Tender Hearted Maidens'.
 
2013-08-06 08:18:14 AM
America's  favorite plagiarist. Hooray.
 
2013-08-06 08:39:11 AM

Tat'dGreaser: My God, I had no idea what he said all these years!


It doesn't really matter.  It's all vaguely worded lyrics about how things are changing.  But they're *ALWAYS* changing.  Constantly.  Those lyrics could apply to practically any decade you care to name with equal force.  Kids always rebel against their parents.  Try to think of a decade in the last 100 years where that didn't happen.
 
2013-08-06 09:06:35 AM
Was there ever a time when the times weren't changing?
 
2013-08-06 09:19:01 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Was there ever a time when the times weren't changing?


No.  Sing through your nose, though, and singing about something that's always been happening sounds deep.
 
2013-08-06 09:27:22 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Was there ever a time when the times weren't changing?


an argument could be made before the Big Bang....
 
2013-08-06 09:36:46 AM
Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g
 
2013-08-06 09:48:25 AM

DoblerMeyer: Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g


I'm old and boring so I don't know that movie at all, but I found the opening credits/soundtrack mesmerizing. Now I'll have to go find the film and watch it.
 
2013-08-06 10:22:44 AM

mainsail: America's  favorite plagiarist. Hooray.


**citation needed**
 
2013-08-06 10:33:05 AM
I like to sing songs in the style of Bob Dylan.

Paradise City, The Right Stuff, Runaround...you name it, it's hilarious.
 
2013-08-06 10:49:03 AM

Sass-O-Rev: DoblerMeyer: Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g

I'm old and boring so I don't know that movie at all, but I found the opening credits/soundtrack mesmerizing. Now I'll have to go find the film and watch it.


The movie is great.  Don't listen to the fan boys.  Also don't bother if seeing a penis causes you to act like a little child.
 
2013-08-06 10:49:40 AM

mainsail: America's  favorite plagiarist. Hooray.


**citation needed**
 
2013-08-06 10:58:09 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Sass-O-Rev: DoblerMeyer: Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g

I'm old and boring so I don't know that movie at all, but I found the opening credits/soundtrack mesmerizing. Now I'll have to go find the film and watch it.

The movie is great.  Don't listen to the fan boys.  Also don't bother if seeing a penis causes you to act like a little child.


I'm almost 60, mom and a grandma, so I've seen enough penises in my day to no longer have to giggle at them. Well, usually.

I'll give the move a try!
 
2013-08-06 11:02:56 AM

Sass-O-Rev: I'm almost 60, mom and a grandma, so I've seen enough penises in my day


How *YOU* doin'?
 
2013-08-06 11:04:18 AM

Sass-O-Rev: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Sass-O-Rev: DoblerMeyer: Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g

I'm old and boring so I don't know that movie at all, but I found the opening credits/soundtrack mesmerizing. Now I'll have to go find the film and watch it.

The movie is great.  Don't listen to the fan boys.  Also don't bother if seeing a penis causes you to act like a little child.

I'm almost 60, mom and a grandma, so I've seen enough penises in my day to no longer have to giggle at them. Well, usually.

I'll give the move a try!


Good on you!  I see my penis every day, and it still makes me giggle.
 
2013-08-06 11:13:43 AM
 
2013-08-06 11:14:44 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Sass-O-Rev: DoblerMeyer: Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g

I'm old and boring so I don't know that movie at all, but I found the opening credits/soundtrack mesmerizing. Now I'll have to go find the film and watch it.

The movie is great.  Don't listen to the fan boys.  Also don't bother if seeing a penis causes you to act like a little child.


For the most part it's quite good and faithful to the original story. However, IMO it misses a major point of the book by leaving out the final conversation between Veidt and Manhattan.
 
2013-08-06 11:14:46 AM

dittybopper: Sass-O-Rev: I'm almost 60, mom and a grandma, so I've seen enough penises in my day

How *YOU* doin'?



/rolls eyes
//and giggles
 
2013-08-06 11:19:10 AM

DoblerMeyer: Sass-O-Rev: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Sass-O-Rev: DoblerMeyer: Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g

I'm old and boring so I don't know that movie at all, but I found the opening credits/soundtrack mesmerizing. Now I'll have to go find the film and watch it.

The movie is great.  Don't listen to the fan boys.  Also don't bother if seeing a penis causes you to act like a little child.

I'm almost 60, mom and a grandma, so I've seen enough penises in my day to no longer have to giggle at them. Well, usually.

I'll give the move a try!

Good on you!  I see my penis every day, and it still makes me giggle.


There is something inherently silly-looking about them. They probably get giggled at fairly often.

Reminds me of a cartoon I saw once: God, in heaven's boardroom, and a bunch of angels sitting around a table. God is standing at a flipboard with a picture of a naked man on it. Penis and scrotum on top of the man's head. God says to to the assembled, "Let's face it; no matter WHERE we put it, it's going to look pretty ridiculous."
 
2013-08-06 11:22:53 AM
I also heard it's The End Times.
 
2013-08-06 11:37:05 AM
Never before or since have times changed. Indeed, he's a prophet
 
2013-08-06 11:59:00 AM

DoblerMeyer: Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g


Yes, but it always makes me think of the scene that had the shiattiest Leonard Cohen cover (that's saying a LOT) playing over it as well.
 
2013-08-06 12:00:12 PM

Sass-O-Rev: The All-Powerful Atheismo: Sass-O-Rev: DoblerMeyer: Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g

I'm old and boring so I don't know that movie at all, but I found the opening credits/soundtrack mesmerizing. Now I'll have to go find the film and watch it.

The movie is great.  Don't listen to the fan boys.  Also don't bother if seeing a penis causes you to act like a little child.

I'm almost 60, mom and a grandma, so I've seen enough penises in my day to no longer have to giggle at them. Well, usually.

I'll give the move a try!


To be fair, the scene with the penis is shot in a way that dares you to laugh at it. And I do.
 
2013-08-06 12:47:39 PM
Although I didn't grow up in the sixties, don't you think it would be fair to say there was a monumental amount of social upheaval happening then, as compared to the "times are always changing" statements people are making? You had Vietnam, racial integration in schools, hippies, etc. I'm going to guess that every so often there's a period of change that's much higher on the upheaval Richter scale than normal.
 
2013-08-06 12:50:50 PM

dennerman: Although I didn't grow up in the sixties, don't you think it would be fair to say there was a monumental amount of social upheaval happening then, as compared to the "times are always changing" statements people are making? You had Vietnam, racial integration in schools, hippies, etc. I'm going to guess that every so often there's a period of change that's much higher on the upheaval Richter scale than normal.


I believe you are correct.  The social upheaval at that time was much greater than what we see today.  In fact, we are a fairly fat and happy compared to the world Dylan was writing about.
 
2013-08-06 01:38:59 PM

dennerman: Although I didn't grow up in the sixties, don't you think it would be fair to say there was a monumental amount of social upheaval happening then, as compared to the "times are always changing" statements people are making? You had Vietnam, racial integration in schools, hippies, etc. I'm going to guess that every so often there's a period of change that's much higher on the upheaval Richter scale than normal.


Well, there was the Industrial Revolution of the late 19th Century, WWI, the 20s, the Great depression of the 30s, WWII, the cold war of the 50s, so yeah, the 60s were a big damn deal in comparison to the previous hundred years or so. The biggest thing was the Civil Rights movement, so full kudos there, but then, things have slid downhill ever since.
 
2013-08-06 01:42:09 PM
Yes, and Things Have Changed.
 
2013-08-06 01:55:15 PM
Whoops; I should also point out that the Great Migration took place during the 20s and 30s setting up huge demographic shifts in the USA, the National Health System being set up in the UK, and well, everything else.

So yeah, the 60s. 10 years.
 
2013-08-06 01:56:51 PM
Dylan is still grossly overrated so that hasn't changed.
 
2013-08-06 02:43:15 PM

mainsail: stir22: mainsail: America's  favorite plagiarist. Hooray.

**citation needed**

Sure, first, Bob's ideas on the topic...

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/120917dylan

Then we have:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/28/bob-dylans-gagosian-paintin gs -plagiarized_n_985004.html

.
http://folkmusic.about.com/od/bobdylan/a/Bob-Dylan-Plagiarism.htm

Back to painting...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF4QVHnjxF4


thanks!!!!
 
2013-08-06 02:43:44 PM

PizzaJedi81: I like to sing songs in the style of Bob Dylan.

Paradise City, The Right Stuff, Runaround...you name it, it's hilarious.


Paradise City sounds like it's actually an improvement.
 
2013-08-06 03:09:36 PM

stir22: mainsail: stir22: mainsail: America's  favorite plagiarist. Hooray.

**citation needed**

Sure, first, Bob's ideas on the topic...

thanks!!!!


Any time. Used to be a big fan of Bob's, but not so much, now. The plagiarism thing has followed him for literally decades and decades- from right after he made it big.. but because of the mythologizing of this guy, well, he gets a pass. I love how he's saying he's still mad/hurt at being called "Judas"- one gets the impression that's how he justifies being closer to Barabbas. When ol' Bobby kicks the bucket, I'm sure we'll have weeping hosts of people about the loss of this genius, but truthfully, he's as scuzzy as they go.
 
2013-08-06 03:25:18 PM

DoblerMeyer: Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g


This.
 
2013-08-06 03:29:29 PM
This is the best Bob Dylan song ever.  And he doesn't even sing it.
 
2013-08-06 03:51:02 PM

mainsail: America's  favorite plagiarist. Hooray.


I would have guessed Joe Biden or Jerry Brown for America's favorite plagiarist
 
2013-08-06 04:09:17 PM

El Supe: mainsail: America's  favorite plagiarist. Hooray.

I would have guessed Joe Biden or Jerry Brown for America's favorite plagiarist


Joe Biden is too inept to effectively plagiarize.
 
2013-08-06 04:23:09 PM

dittybopper: El Supe: mainsail: America's  favorite plagiarist. Hooray.

I would have guessed Joe Biden or Jerry Brown for America's favorite plagiarist

Joe Biden is too inept to effectively plagiarize.


But my GOD, his teeth will blind you.
 
2013-08-06 05:50:07 PM
Dylan was singing about a paradigm shift happening in the 60s as a backlash against the overly traditional and authoritarian 50s, where conventionalism had been worshiped, towards a younger, less conventional and more adaptive system.

Yes, it's always been in flux, but in the 1960s, there was a changing of the guard in the minds of the people toward personal liberty. Sure, even since then, we've been going back and forth, but the back side is losing and the forth side has been making consistent ground.
 
2013-08-06 06:29:32 PM
"Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Five years later? Six? It seems like a lifetime, or at least a Main Era-the kind of peak that never comes again. San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. Maybe it meant something. Maybe not, in the long run . . . but no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time and the world. Whatever it meant. . . .

History is hard to know, because of all the hired bullshiat, but even without being sure of "history" it seems entirely reasonable to think that every now and then the energy of a whole generation comes to a head in a long fine flash, for reasons that nobody really understands at the time-and which never explain, in retrospect, what actually happened.

My central memory of that time seems to hang on one or five or maybe forty nights-or very early mornings-when I left the Fillmore half-crazy and, instead of going home, aimed the big 650 Lightning across the Bay Bridge at a hundred miles an hour wearing L. L. Bean shorts and a Butte sheepherder's jacket . . . booming through the Treasure Island tunnel at the lights of Oakland and Berkeley and Richmond, not quite sure which turn-off to take when I got to the other end (always stalling at the toll-gate, too twisted to find neutral while I fumbled for change) . . . but being absolutely certain that no matter which way I went I would come to a place where people were just as high and wild as I was: No doubt at all about that. . . .

There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda. . . . You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. . . .

And that, I think, was the handle-that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn't need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting-on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave. . . .

So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark-that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back."


HST - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
 
2013-08-06 06:32:46 PM

NutznGum: Dylan is still grossly overrated so that hasn't changed.


I know!

Number 1 with a bullet, but should only be an "average" 1.
 
2013-08-06 06:46:02 PM
Wow he predicted change. Over time! What a visionary!
 
2013-08-06 08:53:15 PM

DoblerMeyer: Despite what you think of this movie as a whole or the song in general, this is one of the best opening credit sequences ever.     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKXk64G03g


Agreed. Pity the rest of the movie was a POS.
 
2013-08-06 09:00:14 PM

The_Philosopher_King: "Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Five years later? Six? It seems like a lifetime, or at least a Main Era-the kind of peak that never comes again. San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. Maybe it meant something. Maybe not, in the long run . . . but no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time and the world. Whatever it meant. . . .

History is hard to know, because of all the hired bullshiat, but even without being sure of "history" it seems entirely reasonable to think that every now and then the energy of a whole generation comes to a head in a long fine flash, for reasons that nobody really understands at the time-and which never explain, in retrospect, what actually happened.

My central memory of that time seems to hang on one or five or maybe forty nights-or very early mornings-when I left the Fillmore half-crazy and, instead of going home, aimed the big 650 Lightning across the Bay Bridge at a hundred miles an hour wearing L. L. Bean shorts and a Butte sheepherder's jacket . . . booming through the Treasure Island tunnel at the lights of Oakland and Berkeley and Richmond, not quite sure which turn-off to take when I got to the other end (always stalling at the toll-gate, too twisted to find neutral while I fumbled for change) . . . but being absolutely certain that no matter which way I went I would come to a place where people were just as high and wild as I was: No doubt at all about that. . . .

There was madness in any direction, at any hour. If not across the Bay, then up the Golden Gate or down 101 to Los Altos or La Honda. . . . You could strike sparks anywhere. There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. . . .

And that, I think, was the handle-that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military se ...


The dude could write.
 
2013-08-06 09:07:43 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: The dude could write.



Yeah, it shame he doesn't have the same talent for  enunciation.
 
2013-08-06 11:59:04 PM

ChaoticLimbs: Dylan was singing about a paradigm shift happening in the 60s as a backlash against the overly traditional and authoritarian 50s, where conventionalism had been worshiped, towards a younger, less conventional and more adaptive system.

Yes, it's always been in flux, but in the 1960s, there was a changing of the guard in the minds of the people toward personal liberty. Sure, even since then, we've been going back and forth, but the back side is losing and the forth side has been making consistent ground.


Really? TThe sexual revolution?; U.S. Census Bureau statistics on premarital pregnancy and vital statistics on single motherhood between 1940 and 1960 point to the conclusion that there was much more sexual activity during those decades than Americans were willing to admit. During the 20s and 30s, you had flappers and It Girls, and if the girls are doing it, you can bet the boys are. Drugs? Marijuana, Heroin, cocaine and their abuse/use were in full swing all the way into the 60s, nothing new there.. Revolutionary music? Jazz. Folk, protest movements? Organizing labour and suffragettes at the beginning of the century. Psychedelia? Eastern mysticism in the West? Weird cults? Unusual schools? The 20s have the 60s down cold. What the 60s had was a generation interested in proselytizing how cool they were. Better press. The hippies had been predated by the Nature Boys movement, and the Beats.Before that, there was the nudist/back to nature movement of post WWI.

Advertising and narcissism, that the 60s had in spades.
 
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