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(Opposing Views)   Alexandria Hill, 2, was removed from her parents' home last November because they smoked pot while she was asleep. Alexandria was shipped off to two abusive foster homes and died at the hands of her 2nd foster mom, who is now charged with murder   (opposingviews.com) divider line 184
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2013-08-06 01:16:34 AM
Well at least she's not going to grow up to be a pot smoker. Chalk up another win for the war on drugs.
 
2013-08-06 01:24:38 AM
That's a sad story, but there seems to be some missing details.  It seems very extreme that CPS would remove a child from the parents' care because of one pot bust, and how did they even find out the parents were smoking pot while the child slept?  It's certainly wrong what happened to the kid in foster care, but I'm curious about what went down to have the child removed from the parents in the first place.
 
2013-08-06 01:29:08 AM

TuteTibiImperes: That's a sad story, but there seems to be some missing details.  It seems very extreme that CPS would remove a child from the parents' care because of one pot bust, and how did they even find out the parents were smoking pot while the child slept?  It's certainly wrong what happened to the kid in foster care, but I'm curious about what went down to have the child removed from the parents in the first place.


Yeah, I have to agree with that. At face value this one doesn't quite pass the sniff test.
 
2013-08-06 01:48:31 AM

naughtyrev: Yeah, I have to agree with that. At face value this one doesn't quite pass the sniff test.


Keep in mind that this happened in Texas
 
2013-08-06 01:50:20 AM
Wait, no I found another article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385159/Foster-mother-beats-t o ddler-seized-biological-parents-social-services-discovered-smoking-pot .html?ito=feeds-newsxml

It says: According to court records, Alexandria's mother has a medical condition that does not allow her to be left alone with her own child and Hill's marijuana use had become so bad he almost dropped his daughter down the stairs.
 
2013-08-06 02:02:46 AM

SnakeLee: naughtyrev: Yeah, I have to agree with that. At face value this one doesn't quite pass the sniff test.

Keep in mind that this happened in Texas


My dad works for a version of CPS and one time I overheard him on take a call from work.

"Well do we know what kind of pipe it was that the child saw?.... I.......you see.......I'm trying to tell you.......[subordinate's name], listen to me, there are different kinds of pipes and it makes a huge difference..........OK.........OK.....LOOK you do your investigation and if it's meth you have my full blessing to file the report, if not, call me back.......yes?......of course I know illegal is illegal.......just let me know what you find"
 
2013-08-06 02:28:06 AM

SnakeLee: Wait, no I found another article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385159/Foster-mother-beats-t o ddler-seized-biological-parents-social-services-discovered-smoking-pot .html?ito=feeds-newsxml

It says: According to court records, Alexandria's mother has a medical condition that does not allow her to be left alone with her own child and Hill's marijuana use had become so bad he almost dropped his daughter down the stairs.


Good find. That article also says that the family voluntarily sent the kid to foster care until they could get their lives in order, and that the parents are not living together. I would guess the mom has major depression or bipolar disorder if she's safe around adults, but not small children.
 
2013-08-06 02:41:15 AM
Yeah, but she's not with pot smoking parents, so it's a win
 
2013-08-06 05:45:59 AM
Weed takes another innocent life.
 
2013-08-06 07:38:29 AM
CPS isn't.
 
2013-08-06 08:04:38 AM

TuteTibiImperes: That's a sad story, but there seems to be some missing details.  It seems very extreme that CPS would remove a child from the parents' care because of one pot bust, and how did they even find out the parents were smoking pot while the child slept?  It's certainly wrong what happened to the kid in foster care, but I'm curious about what went down to have the child removed from the parents in the first place.


I'm a foster parent.  I've worked with CPS.  I've seen them pull kids based on what I would think was pretty minor stuff.

We had one placement of a 2 year old boy who was removed on suspicion of physical abuse.  Within half an hour of being in our home, we knew how he got the bruises he had:  Kid was a natural daredevil.  He liked to climb up on stuff and jump down, and he didn't mind getting hurt in the process.

You know, the natural born athlete type.

Turns out the mother's sister had a grudge of some kind against the mother of the boy, and she called CPS because she was "concerned" that there might be some physical abuse.  CPS shows up, sees the bruises, and pulls the kid immediately.  They have the power in my state to do that for up to 48 hours or so before it has to go to a family court judge.  And when you show up to that first court date, you almost certainly don't have any real evidence to dispute CPS.

Even though it was obvious to everyone, including the judge, that the mother wasn't abusing the boy, it still took her a month to get her son back, *AND* she was monitored by Social Services for a year after that.

I think CPS is predisposed to pulling kids out of homes if there is the slightest amount of evidence that supports a neglect or abuse finding, even if it's ultimately bullshiat.  That's because if it is found out that they could have done something to "save just one kid", and they didn't, there is at the very minimum a lot of bad press for them locally.

/We only do temporary "respite" care now.
//To hard to have a kid, especially an infant, stay with you for months and then let go.
 
2013-08-06 08:09:10 AM

SnakeLee: It says: According to court records, Alexandria's mother has a medical condition that does not allow her to be left alone with her own child and Hill's marijuana use had become so bad he almost dropped his daughter down the stairs.


Meh.  I actually dropped the littlebopper when he was a toddler, and the distaffbopper dropped him as an infant.  He's in the gifted program at school.  Neither of us do illegal drugs, and we rarely drink.

/Don't think we drank at all when he was that age.
//Did read to him every farking day from the time he could sit up to the time he could read to us.
///If you have an infant or toddler, read a book to them every day.
 
2013-08-06 08:19:36 AM
Joshua Hill's daughter, Alexandria, was taken from him and his wife in November 2013 because they smoked pot in their Round Rock, Texas home while their child slept.

There seems to be more to this story than they're reporting.
 
2013-08-06 08:24:56 AM
hmmm:

The parents, who are not together, handed Alexandria to Hill's mother to care for - until the state intervened on November 26th.
According to the Department of Family and Protective Services, the family disagreed who should take custody of the girl and decided to involve the CPS themselves - until both mom and dad got their lives in order.


big mistake there.
 
2013-08-06 08:32:49 AM

SlothB77: hmmm:

The parents, who are not together, handed Alexandria to Hill's mother to care for - until the state intervened on November 26th.
According to the Department of Family and Protective Services, the family disagreed who should take custody of the girl and decided to involve the CPS themselves - until both mom and dad got their lives in order.

big mistake there.


A better option would have been to find a relative to take care of the child temporarily.  The local department of Social Services can do that, placing the kid with a relative on a temporary basis until they are certified for foster care, after a quick criminal background check and a home inspection.

That assumes a relative willing and able to take the kid.

/In NYS, at least.
 
2013-08-06 08:35:40 AM
Ought to dig up Nancy Reagan and kick her corpse.
 
2013-08-06 08:36:52 AM
Thank god for the goody-two-shoes busybodies who are on eternal watch against pot smokers. Otherwise that poor child might have grown up to know the truth.
 
2013-08-06 08:37:06 AM

I_Am_Weasel: Joshua Hill's daughter, Alexandria, was taken from him and his wife in November 2013 because they smoked pot in their Round Rock, Texas home while their child slept.

There seems to be more to this story than they're reporting.


Eh, as long as they kept their time machine locked while the kids were around, it's good.
 
2013-08-06 08:37:06 AM

dittybopper: That assumes a relative willing and able to take the kid.


If she were a Native, they would ship her to a white family.
 
2013-08-06 08:38:58 AM
Oh, Round Rock. That's Williamson county. Known for being extra tough on crime. Still, I would like to believe there is more to the story, but it wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't.
 
2013-08-06 08:39:24 AM
This is disgusting.  Anyone who doesn't think that this is a completely farked up example of "the war on drugs" is a depraved farkwad.  And the saddest part is, this kind of overzealous bullshiat - where the authorities ruin someone's life because they smoked a joint - goes on all the time.
 
2013-08-06 08:41:52 AM

SlothB77: hmmm:

The parents, who are not together, handed Alexandria to Hill's mother to care for - until the state intervened on November 26th.
According to the Department of Family and Protective Services, the family disagreed who should take custody of the girl and decided to involve the CPS themselves - until both mom and dad got their lives in order.

big mistake there.


Indeed. Never involve the court system in your life if you can help it. They have a huge amount of power and an extremely limited amount of information upon which to base their decisions about your life.
 
2013-08-06 08:42:05 AM

dittybopper: /We only do temporary "respite" care now.


Thanks for that!

You ever take your kids out to field days and the like?

/The system needs more good families.
//Can imagine that being placed with dittybopper results in an automatic paperwork filing for a class 2 operators licence, mandatory key test.
 
2013-08-06 08:42:56 AM
Ain't that Muerikuh, fer yoo and mee?
Ain't that Muerikuh, home of the free?
Little pink houses fer yoo and mee!
 
2013-08-06 08:42:57 AM

Chummer45: And the saddest part is, this kind of overzealous bullshiat - where the authorities ruin someone's life because they smoked a joint - goes on all the time.


Maybe read the other comments to see the full story. This wasn't about some wonderful parents who happened to smoke a joint from time to time.

// Still tragic...
 
2013-08-06 08:43:00 AM

vudukungfu: dittybopper: That assumes a relative willing and able to take the kid.

If she were a Native, they would ship her to a white family.


You might want to ask why that might be true.  Is it perhaps the lack of available Native foster parents?

Meh.  I've taken care of Black kids, and the littlebopper (who was our first placement, and whom we adopted) is Asian.   If race matters to you, you shouldn't be a foster parent.
 
2013-08-06 08:43:52 AM
foster kid wants to know why CPS isn't being charged with any crime
5 minutes alone should be plenty
plenty
 
2013-08-06 08:44:56 AM

PunGent: I_Am_Weasel: Joshua Hill's daughter, Alexandria, was taken from him and his wife in November 2013 because they smoked pot in their Round Rock, Texas home while their child slept.

There seems to be more to this story than they're reporting.

Eh, as long as they kept their time machine locked while the kids were around, it's good.


Never trust a time-traveler. There should be some kind of laws!??!?! For the children.
 
2013-08-06 08:45:23 AM
POT KILLS!
 
2013-08-06 08:45:40 AM

HotWingAgenda: SnakeLee: Wait, no I found another article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385159/Foster-mother-beats-t o ddler-seized-biological-parents-social-services-discovered-smoking-pot .html?ito=feeds-newsxml

It says: According to court records, Alexandria's mother has a medical condition that does not allow her to be left alone with her own child and Hill's marijuana use had become so bad he almost dropped his daughter down the stairs.

Good find. That article also says that the family voluntarily sent the kid to foster care until they could get their lives in order, and that the parents are not living together. I would guess the mom has major depression or bipolar disorder if she's safe around adults, but not small children.


So, the government agents did not forcibly remove the child from the pot smokers.  The pot smokers called the government agents and offered them their child.

Yeah, definitely another war on drugs, damn-you-Nancy-Reagan thing.  /sarc/
 
2013-08-06 08:46:12 AM
so can cps take your child if you were speeding in a car with the child in it? I mean speed is breaking the law and endangering a child so it would seem fitting for cps to remove a child from that situation.
 
2013-08-06 08:46:33 AM

SnakeLee: naughtyrev: Yeah, I have to agree with that. At face value this one doesn't quite pass the sniff test.

Keep in mind that this happened in Texas


More specifically, in Williamson Country, Texas, which is a police state on steroids. I live right next to it.
 
2013-08-06 08:47:35 AM
I'm sure her parents were fine, upstanding people who occasionally smoked some pot.

Poor little girl never had a chance.
 
2013-08-06 08:48:59 AM

HotWingAgenda: SnakeLee: Wait, no I found another article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385159/Foster-mother-beats-t o ddler-seized-biological-parents-social-services-discovered-smoking-pot .html?ito=feeds-newsxml

It says: According to court records, Alexandria's mother has a medical condition that does not allow her to be left alone with her own child and Hill's marijuana use had become so bad he almost dropped his daughter down the stairs.

Good find. That article also says that the family voluntarily sent the kid to foster care until they could get their lives in order, and that the parents are not living together. I would guess the mom has major depression or bipolar disorder if she's safe around adults, but not small children.


i would guess you don't know a lot about depression or bipolar disorder.
 
2013-08-06 08:49:02 AM

dukeblue219: Chummer45: And the saddest part is, this kind of overzealous bullshiat - where the authorities ruin someone's life because they smoked a joint - goes on all the time.

Maybe read the other comments to see the full story. This wasn't about some wonderful parents who happened to smoke a joint from time to time.

// Still tragic...


Yeah, comparatively speaking, let's ask Alexandria how wonderful they were.  Oh, wait.

/Also, literally everyone who has ever handled babies for more than a few days of time has dropped one
//you dust them off quickly, go 'haha, babies, they cry over anything' when the wrath of god peers into the room suspiciously, then spend a few hours staring at the spot that made contact and hyperventilating over whether there is a bump showing or if you just ruined her chances of Harvard
 
2013-08-06 08:49:12 AM
See that? Pot does kill!
 
2013-08-06 08:49:51 AM

dittybopper: If race matters to you, you shouldn't be a foster parent.


Or, Don't be a parent.
 
GBB
2013-08-06 08:50:22 AM
TFA: Joshua Hill's daughter, Alexandria, was taken from him and his wife in November 2013

thefilmexperience.net
 
2013-08-06 08:50:38 AM

dittybopper: SnakeLee: It says: According to court records, Alexandria's mother has a medical condition that does not allow her to be left alone with her own child and Hill's marijuana use had become so bad he almost dropped his daughter down the stairs.

Meh.  I actually dropped the littlebopper when he was a toddler, and the distaffbopper dropped him as an infant.  He's in the gifted program at school.  Neither of us do illegal drugs, and we rarely drink.

/Don't think we drank at all when he was that age.
//Did read to him every farking day from the time he could sit up to the time he could read to us.
///If you have an infant or toddler, read a book to them every day.


So much this!!! My 9 year old and I still read out loud to each other from time to time.
 
2013-08-06 08:50:44 AM
TFA While the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services (DFPS) removes children such as Alexandria from their homes, they leave it up private agencies to do background checks on all foster homes.

Handing that job over to someone who has an incentive to do it fast and cheap sounds like a great idea.
 
2013-08-06 08:51:13 AM
Marijuana, responsible for yet another death.
 
2013-08-06 08:52:00 AM
Ok farkers. According to the article, the writer can see the future.  We have almost 3 months to find the child and save her.  It's not November 2013 yet.

(Yeah, I know.  So the date's screwed up, a child is dead)
 
2013-08-06 08:52:28 AM

Shadow Blasko: dittybopper: /We only do temporary "respite" care now.

Thanks for that!

You ever take your kids out to field days and the like?

/The system needs more good families.
//Can imagine that being placed with dittybopper results in an automatic paperwork filing for a class 2 operators licence, mandatory key test.


Not to field day.  Hell, I don't go to field day.  Plus, we only take kids the same age as the littlebopper, who is 9, or younger.

We do take them out to different stuff, though, as much as we can.  There is one former foster kid we still watch occasionally even though he's out of the system now.  We took him to the Young Eagles day at our local airport.  His legal guardian had to come because we couldn't sign the waivers.  He got to sit up front and steer the plane because it was his first time in an airplane.

Generally, though, we just try and do the stuff a "normal" family would do, but tailored to their capabilities and temperament.

You've got to develop a good read on the kids to find out what they can and can't really do.  Almost every kid that ends up in foster care has some issues.  Some are worse than others, some act out, some don't, and some simply haven't been exposed to a home environment where they have structure and rules, and consequences if they break the rules.
 
2013-08-06 08:52:49 AM
The war on drugs has killed more people than actual wars.
The outrageous part is that none of the bureaucrats on the state side is likely to take a fall for what they did. They'll clock in tomorrow and do it again with the best of intentions.
 
2013-08-06 08:53:14 AM

SnakeLee: Wait, no I found another article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385159/Foster-mother-beats-t o ddler-seized-biological-parents-social-services-discovered-smoking-pot .html?ito=feeds-newsxml

It says: According to court records, Alexandria's mother has a medical condition that does not allow her to be left alone with her own child and Hill's marijuana use had become so bad he almost dropped his daughter down the stairs.


It's pretty sad when Fark embraces a partner so bad that even the Daily Farking Fail is a better news source.

Here's another one with more details:

http://www.khou.com/news/texas-news?fId=218435991&fPath=/news/local/ &f Domain=10232

According to court records, a state investigator discovered Alex's biological mother, Mary Sweeny, suffered from seizures and a doctor determined, "she is not allowed to drive or be alone with Alexandria."
Her biological father, Joshua Hill, admitted one time to "smoking marijuana in the house when his daughter was upstairs sleeping."
The state also said he could not allow Alex to live with him at his parents because the "paternal grandfather is a registered sexual offender," for an offense that happened more than 20 years ago.



So, naturally CPS put her with a family that admits they want the extra income and has multiple drug charges.
 
2013-08-06 08:54:25 AM

pmdgrwr: so can cps take your child if you were speeding in a car with the child in it? I mean speed is breaking the law and endangering a child so it would seem fitting for cps to remove a child from that situation.


For 10 or 20 MPH over the limit?  Doubt it.

Going 130 MPH?  Maybe.  Especially if it's a young kid and not in a car seat.
 
2013-08-06 08:58:00 AM
It takes a village to murder a child.
 
2013-08-06 09:00:48 AM

I_Am_Weasel: Joshua Hill's daughter, Alexandria, was taken from him and his wife in November 2013 because they smoked pot in their Round Rock, Texas home while their child slept.

There seems to be more to this story than they're reporting.


Peter Capaldi will save her.
 
2013-08-06 09:02:45 AM

naughtyrev: TuteTibiImperes: That's a sad story, but there seems to be some missing details.  It seems very extreme that CPS would remove a child from the parents' care because of one pot bust, and how did they even find out the parents were smoking pot while the child slept?  It's certainly wrong what happened to the kid in foster care, but I'm curious about what went down to have the child removed from the parents in the first place.

Yeah, I have to agree with that. At face value this one doesn't quite pass the sniff test.


Yeah, it's completely unheard of for CPS to overstep their bounds and declare themselves sole arbiters of who is right and wrong when concerning making decisicions for the welfare of a child.
 
2013-08-06 09:03:13 AM
This is really sad.

Also if you have a toddler maybe don't smoke pot/do things to get you arrested.  That might be conducive to keeping your child safe.  We can and obviously SHOULD blame the state (Not surprised its Tex-Ass outsourcing its background checks on foster parents to private entities) for placing this kid in two abusive households, but if you've done something criminal that got your kids taken away and put into foster care...  you are the very next person after the actual abuser who is responsible for this, with the state running a distant third.
 
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