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(NYPost)   Welcome to the Sun Bright Hotel in New York City. It is only $10 a night but your "room" is a chicken wire cage and you share a single bathroom with a 100 other men. Who says living in Manhattan can't be affordable?   (nypost.com) divider line 163
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2013-08-05 07:55:57 PM
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Ohhh that's disgusting! I mean how could anyone think that is a good idea? I've seen some sick things, but a Pepsi?!
 
2013-08-05 08:07:25 PM
So, go to a social services agency and ask them for help with a bus ticket to somewhere affordable.  Make sure they also help you with the change of address forms and so on, so our benefits arrive where you're going.  They may be able to set you up with some clean clothes, too.

I have never understood why people who can't afford NYC or other large cities don't just farking LEAVE.  When my circumstances changed (had to take care of an elderly relative), the first thing I did was look into how to move to a less expensive place.  And as I said, I'm sure there are social services agencies who can help with that for those who can't afford the bus ticket.
 
2013-08-05 08:10:15 PM
$10 a night, so roughly $300 per month.  That isn't going to get even a one bedroom apartment anywhere that I'm familiar with, but it might be possible to get something with a couple of roomates and still have more personal space, plus a place that doesn't have insects and vermin.
 
2013-08-05 08:20:00 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: So, go to a social services agency and ask them for help with a bus ticket to somewhere affordable.  Make sure they also help you with the change of address forms and so on, so our benefits arrive where you're going.  They may be able to set you up with some clean clothes, too.

I have never understood why people who can't afford NYC or other large cities don't just farking LEAVE.  When my circumstances changed (had to take care of an elderly relative), the first thing I did was look into how to move to a less expensive place.  And as I said, I'm sure there are social services agencies who can help with that for those who can't afford the bus ticket.


That's it, you solved it! It can't possibly be because people have at least  some social security net in New York, be it family, friends, or existing contacts at local & state agents, and don't want to risk ending up  completely homeless in a strange city where they know nobody.
 
2013-08-05 08:22:37 PM

Rincewind53: Benevolent Misanthrope: So, go to a social services agency and ask them for help with a bus ticket to somewhere affordable.  Make sure they also help you with the change of address forms and so on, so our benefits arrive where you're going.  They may be able to set you up with some clean clothes, too.

I have never understood why people who can't afford NYC or other large cities don't just farking LEAVE.  When my circumstances changed (had to take care of an elderly relative), the first thing I did was look into how to move to a less expensive place.  And as I said, I'm sure there are social services agencies who can help with that for those who can't afford the bus ticket.

That's it, you solved it! It can't possibly be because people have at least  some social security net in New York, be it family, friends, or existing contacts at local & state agents, and don't want to risk ending up  completely homeless in a strange city where they know nobody.


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2013-08-05 08:24:47 PM
Of course the sun is bright..your ceiling is chicken wire!
 
2013-08-05 08:25:14 PM
Where said I put those farker living spaces pictures?

//anyone?
 
2013-08-05 08:31:20 PM

Rincewind53: Benevolent Misanthrope: So, go to a social services agency and ask them for help with a bus ticket to somewhere affordable.  Make sure they also help you with the change of address forms and so on, so our benefits arrive where you're going.  They may be able to set you up with some clean clothes, too.

I have never understood why people who can't afford NYC or other large cities don't just farking LEAVE.  When my circumstances changed (had to take care of an elderly relative), the first thing I did was look into how to move to a less expensive place.  And as I said, I'm sure there are social services agencies who can help with that for those who can't afford the bus ticket.

That's it, you solved it! It can't possibly be because people have at least  some social security net in New York, be it family, friends, or existing contacts at local & state agents, and don't want to risk ending up  completely homeless in a strange city where they know nobody.


OK, so, if they're so close with their friends and/or family, why are they living in squalor, rather than explaining the situation and asking for help?  I know that people stay for lots of different reasons - but when you're living like this, you have no one but yourself and your own choices to blame.

I just don't get it.
 
2013-08-05 08:33:04 PM

fjnorton: Where said I put those farker living spaces pictures?

//anyone?


Damn spell check!!!
 
2013-08-05 08:36:39 PM

fjnorton: fjnorton: Where said I put those farker living spaces pictures?

//anyone?

Damn spell check!!!


Oh, okay.  I thought you had a stroke there for a second.  I was about ready to email 911.
 
2013-08-05 08:39:24 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Rincewind53: Benevolent Misanthrope: So, go to a social services agency and ask them for help with a bus ticket to somewhere affordable.  Make sure they also help you with the change of address forms and so on, so our benefits arrive where you're going.  They may be able to set you up with some clean clothes, too.

I have never understood why people who can't afford NYC or other large cities don't just farking LEAVE.  When my circumstances changed (had to take care of an elderly relative), the first thing I did was look into how to move to a less expensive place.  And as I said, I'm sure there are social services agencies who can help with that for those who can't afford the bus ticket.

That's it, you solved it! It can't possibly be because people have at least  some social security net in New York, be it family, friends, or existing contacts at local & state agents, and don't want to risk ending up  completely homeless in a strange city where they know nobody.

OK, so, if they're so close with their friends and/or family, why are they living in squalor, rather than explaining the situation and asking for help?  I know that people stay for lots of different reasons - but when you're living like this, you have no one but yourself and your own choices to blame.

I just don't get it.


No, you don't.
 
2013-08-05 08:45:35 PM
Obviously, this is the fault of the rich.
 
2013-08-05 08:46:57 PM
Too stupid to leave one of the most expensive cities in the world?  Ok.  Why feel sorry for someone with that sort of stubborn nature?
 
2013-08-05 08:48:01 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Obviously, this is the fault of the rich.


Apparently.
 
2013-08-05 08:49:02 PM

RobertBruce: Too stupid to leave one of the most expensive cities in the world?  Ok.  Why feel sorry for someone with that sort of stubborn nature?


Look out, Robert.  As I've been instructed above, this is obviously anyone's fault but theirs.
 
2013-08-05 09:00:24 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Obviously, this is the fault of the rich.


The article seems to suggest its the fault of the inspectors who allow it to willfully continue. But who am I to judge people who choose not to read?
 
2013-08-05 09:01:40 PM
i.imgur.com

Sheeeit. That would be worth robbing someone just to get a better place to live when you're caught.
 
2013-08-05 09:03:47 PM
farm4.static.flickr.com

 "Joey, have you ever been in in the Sun Bright Hotel?"
 
2013-08-05 09:17:16 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Obviously, this is the fault of the rich.


If the rich had additional tax breaks, these people would feel all that trickle down.
 
2013-08-05 09:23:31 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Obviously, this is the fault of the rich.


Considering who owns the place, more or less, actually.

Also, this place seems to pop up (or one of the other three) every so often and then die away. I think the last time it was one of his women's hostels.

Somacandra: TheDumbBlonde: Obviously, this is the fault of the rich.

The article seems to suggest its the fault of the inspectors who allow it to willfully continue. But who am I to judge people who choose not to read?


Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown. (well actually, it's the city)
 
2013-08-05 09:31:34 PM

TuteTibiImperes: nywhere that I'm familiar with, but it might be possible to get something with a couple of roomates and still have more personal space, plus a place that doesn't have insects and vermin.


Actually people moving from the big city to places with cheaper rent happen all the time.  Rural slums are just as depressing as urban ones.
 
2013-08-05 10:02:25 PM
In the photo of the interior, it looks like there would have been room to build actual rooms with walls and a window, why did they build the cages? Some kind of zoning thing? DNRTFA.
 
2013-08-05 10:12:18 PM

KarmicDisaster: In the photo of the interior, it looks like there would have been room to build actual rooms with walls and a window, why did they build the cages? Some kind of zoning thing? DNRTFA.


Only thing I can think of is it was at one point storage or maybe a kennel for the guest's pets, and the owners figured they could make some extra money by allowing people to rent them out to keep their stuff in.  The people paid the bills but ended up crashing there as well, and no one really gave a shiat for so long it just kind of became normal.
 
2013-08-05 10:30:21 PM
Unpossible. I am assured that New York shines its utopian light out upon the troglodytic flyover states, acting as a veritable beacon of liberal thought and rational governance. A place where even the poor sing and dance upon the streets in coordinated acts of musical melody on a daily basis, and everyone frolics happily together in paradise.

Have you guys been having me on again?
 
2013-08-05 10:32:03 PM

PainInTheASP: KarmicDisaster: In the photo of the interior, it looks like there would have been room to build actual rooms with walls and a window, why did they build the cages? Some kind of zoning thing? DNRTFA.

Only thing I can think of is it was at one point storage or maybe a kennel for the guest's pets, and the owners figured they could make some extra money by allowing people to rent them out to keep their stuff in.  The people paid the bills but ended up crashing there as well, and no one really gave a shiat for so long it just kind of became normal.


It was a warehouse.  The units fulfill the minimum space requirement for a rented temporary hostel space in NY so they can rent them legally.  If you look at each "unit" they look suspiciously like FEMA or other emergency housing.  The owners probably got a deal on old emergency housing, saw that it could fit on each floor of their warehouse, and moved in as many units as they thought they could rent.  They leave the roof open to provide shiatty ventilation and use the chicken wire to keep out birds, I suppose.
 
2013-08-05 10:35:12 PM
WHO RUN BARTERTOWN!
 
2013-08-05 10:38:18 PM

Rincewind53: That's it, you solved it! It can't possibly be because people have at least some social security net in New York, be it family, friends, or existing contacts at local & state agents, and don't want to risk ending up completely homeless in a strange city where they know nobody.


Actually, one of the major social issues we're dealing with in our area upstate is an influx of welfare recipients (mainly convicts, addicts, and sex offenders) who come up here from Philadelphia and New York so that they can stretch out their bennie checks. It's a strategy. It works.
 
2013-08-05 10:38:18 PM
These people simply don't know to move elsewhere, where I live for example I charge $450 for a very large 1 bedroom apartment, but in the article it mentions they cannot afford the "normal $1000" apartment, yeah... well its time to go to the Library and look for cheaper rent.

/Hell I rent travel trailers too for $300 including water and electric, and right now its tough to even find anyone to rent them because everyone HERE wants a nice gated apartment for $800 a month
 
2013-08-05 10:38:21 PM
Are there hourly rates?
 
2013-08-05 10:39:06 PM
So we're taking this whole old timey nostalgia thing all the hell back to the 90s... the 1890s that is. Welp, I am a white male with a trade so looking forward to dying young from syphilis or dysentery.
 
2013-08-05 10:41:46 PM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 525x400]

Sheeeit. That would be worth robbing someone just to get a better place to live when you're caught.


media.nowpublic.net
Wishes he could afford $10 a day.
 
2013-08-05 10:41:54 PM
I feel like I've seen all this before.
 
2013-08-05 10:43:48 PM
A Rod should step in and help these guys out
 
2013-08-05 10:43:55 PM

Rincewind53: That's it, you solved it! It can't possibly be because people have at least  some social security net in New York, be it family, friends, or existing contacts at local & state agents, and don't want to risk ending up  completely homeless in a strange city where they know nobody.


...and, truthfully, not to pile on with a second post, but if you're living like this, your social support network must be pretty flimsy to begin with. I'd suggest that it's much more likely that mental illness explains the decision to live like this over trying some place new.
 
2013-08-05 10:44:00 PM

scottydoesntknow: Ohhh that's disgusting! I mean how could anyone think that is a good idea? I've seen some sick things, but a Pepsi?!


You shut your heathen mouth.
 
2013-08-05 10:46:12 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: I have never understood why people who can't afford NYC or other large cities don't just farking LEAVE.  When my circumstances changed (had to take care of an elderly relative), the first thing I did was look into how to move to a less expensive place.  And as I said, I'm sure there are social services agencies who can help with that for those who can't afford the bus ticket.


In the immediate case, this is a Chinatown shiathole.  If you're an undocumented (overstayed tourist visa) person from some obscure ethnic/language group in Yunnan Province, there are at least a few thousand other of your people in greater NYC.  Getting bus fare to Yankton, South Dakota... great.  Now you are ultra-farked.
 
2013-08-05 10:47:06 PM

generallyso: I feel like I've seen all this before.


You will be seeing more of this soon I am sure. With full time and career jobs turning into part time with "Schedules are flexible" (you free up your schedule for the employer, not way you thought it would be, meaning it's harder to find a second job) written on the job description.
 
2013-08-05 10:48:30 PM

Rincewind53: Benevolent Misanthrope: So, go to a social services agency and ask them for help with a bus ticket to somewhere affordable.  Make sure they also help you with the change of address forms and so on, so our benefits arrive where you're going.  They may be able to set you up with some clean clothes, too.

I have never understood why people who can't afford NYC or other large cities don't just farking LEAVE.  When my circumstances changed (had to take care of an elderly relative), the first thing I did was look into how to move to a less expensive place.  And as I said, I'm sure there are social services agencies who can help with that for those who can't afford the bus ticket.

That's it, you solved it! It can't possibly be because people have at least  some social security net in New York, be it family, friends, or existing contacts at local & state agents, and don't want to risk ending up  completely homeless in a strange city where they know nobody.



...and if you're living in a chicken-wire cage, just how well is that social safety-net working out?
 
2013-08-05 10:49:03 PM
There are some places in this country where it is cheaper to own than to rent.
Mortgage is $520 per month, cheapest rental nearby is $800 in a duplex.
Maybe it is because I am used to it that I cannot stand to live near or with anyone.  That would be worth extra to be away from the morons so I can laugh out loud and do what I want at home.
 
2013-08-05 10:50:45 PM

Psycoholic_Slag: Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 525x400]

Sheeeit. That would be worth robbing someone just to get a better place to live when you're caught.

[media.nowpublic.net image 635x424]
Wishes he could afford $10 a day.


I think I would take that over living in a cage and sharing 1 urinal with 100 other guys.
 
2013-08-05 10:51:01 PM

Lawnchair: Benevolent Misanthrope: I have never understood why people who can't afford NYC or other large cities don't just farking LEAVE.  When my circumstances changed (had to take care of an elderly relative), the first thing I did was look into how to move to a less expensive place.  And as I said, I'm sure there are social services agencies who can help with that for those who can't afford the bus ticket.

In the immediate case, this is a Chinatown shiathole.  If you're an undocumented (overstayed tourist visa) person from some obscure ethnic/language group in Yunnan Province, there are at least a few thousand other of your people in greater NYC.  Getting bus fare to Yankton, South Dakota... great.  Now you are ultra-farked.



Wouldn't the easiest solution in that case just be to walk into the nearest INS office and say "here I am".  Problem solved: free flight back to a place with lots and lots of people you can relate to.
 
2013-08-05 10:51:58 PM
The problem is the people who live there.  It would not be all that difficult to get everyone together and form a cleaning crew and clean the whole place up, disinfect it all and spray poison everywhere until the bugs are all gone.  But the sort of people who live in a $10 a day chickenwire room are not the sort of people who are going to bother cleaning anything.

The city could come along and condemn the place and put a stop to it, but then where will these people go?  They'll probably mostly end up homeless.  Flophouses such as this do perform a useful service to society.
 
2013-08-05 10:53:33 PM
Sex and the City 3:  Tenement Skanks.
 
2013-08-05 10:54:01 PM
Who wants the sinner
Comin' 'round for dinner
Who needs effects
Who needs to pay for sex?

When they drop the bomjb
Who will stay calm?
Blood would spill
Who would you kill?

Now that I understand this right
Let me take it to the mic
This revolution has just begun

Tip of my breast, top of my chest
Tip of my guess, I've got the singles
I got the jingles, bet you eat Pringles
Walkin' on the road with my little rude gun

Now that I understand this right
Let me take it to the mike
This revolution has just begun
 
2013-08-05 10:54:16 PM

Slagnasty: Psycoholic_Slag: Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 525x400]

Sheeeit. That would be worth robbing someone just to get a better place to live when you're caught.

[media.nowpublic.net image 635x424]
Wishes he could afford $10 a day.

I think I would take that over living in a cage and sharing 1 urinal with 100 other guys.


Until darkness settles.  I hear there are scary things that roam the night in NY city.
 
2013-08-05 10:54:36 PM
oddly enough, it has 2 stars on Yelp.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/sun-bright-hotel-manhattan


I wonder how bad the 1 star place is
 
2013-08-05 10:54:47 PM
why are they reporting the landlord?  Do they really think they'll fix up the place for people paying $300/mo rent?  Shoot, it ain't nice but you aren't going to find anywhere else to stay for that price and trying to get the landlord in trouble isn't going to help.
 
2013-08-05 10:55:29 PM
I love the "it's their fault for living there HAHAHAHA I GOT MINE YOLO SWAG" attitude in this thread.

Hint: maybe the farking city needs to not let this kind of shiat exist in a first world nation.

Some of you people are farking loathsome.
 
2013-08-05 10:55:35 PM
*bomb and *mic, too
 
2013-08-05 10:56:42 PM
This has been a thing in Hong Kong for a long time. I suspect that's where it came from. They mentioned that one floor was almost all Asian men.


http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbcnews.com/50732743#50732743
 
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