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(Huffington Post)   "If you cross that line, bad things will happen to you." Syria: "Oops, that was poison gas." "Well, don't cross THAT line." Syria: "Oops, that was a ballistic missile"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 80
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2013-08-05 12:17:57 PM  
Hey, anybody can have guidance failure during a test.
 
2013-08-05 12:18:46 PM  
Don't care.  Not worth even a single penny from out treasury or a single drop of american blood. 

And no, 'saving face' is not a valid reason to put American troops on the ground or in danger.
 
2013-08-05 12:18:49 PM  
fark it
nuke the entire area
kill everyone in that country and the surrounding countries

at least this way we can know exactly what we did and where
and not be concerned that someone used the "war" to line thier own pockets
 
2013-08-05 12:19:34 PM  
Yeah, that's usually what you do when your population is rebelling.

You think Obama wouldn't pound on the red button like Bill on an intern if Cousinfark, MS tried to violently claim independence?
 
2013-08-05 12:20:18 PM  
To be fair chemical weapons are much much worse than the type of missile that we are talking about.  It's still a shiatty situation, I don't want to downplay it but 'ballistic missile' is synonymous with nuclear tipped ICBM in most peoples minds.
 
2013-08-05 12:21:05 PM  
Get thee to Libya and get some real American arms. Obama's Discount Warehouse Sale

/that's where the good stuff is
 
2013-08-05 12:22:34 PM  
Do. Not. Care.

We have zero reason to involve ourselves in another ME war.  They can deal with it on their own and screw you, Military-Industrial Complex and/or Capitalism.  All you do is order expensive appetizers, flirt with the waiter and never put out.  I'm going to go talk to that girl Socialism if you don't start treating me better.
 
2013-08-05 12:22:59 PM  
Wasn't the first line that was crossed crossed by the rebels?  At least according to Russia it was, anyways.  The U.S. government never came forward with a positive assessment about it.  Turkey said that a number of supposed victims of chemical weapons showed no signs of sarin gas (Syria's stockpiled chemical weapon of choice).  I'm not against intervention, because what we did in Libya worked well there, but those pushing for intervention seem to just do so because it gives them a boring 1 dimensional attack on Obama, rather than any meaningful humanitarian goals.
 
2013-08-05 12:23:32 PM  
They've been doing that for a while.

The government has been having massive ordnance shortages during this conflict (from, you know, using all their stores to attack their own people).  They've even using anti-aircraft missiles as direct fire weapons against cities.
 
2013-08-05 12:23:38 PM  

Egoy3k: It's still a shiatty situation, I don't want to downplay it but 'ballistic missile' is synonymous with nuclear tipped ICBM in most peoples minds.


I think that's what submitter is using for fishing bait. I'm going to guess that he should have brought a bigger boat.
 
2013-08-05 12:23:58 PM  

bindlestiff2600: fark it
nuke the entire area
kill everyone in that country and the surrounding countries

at least this way we can know exactly what we did and where
and not be concerned that someone used the "war" to line thier own pockets


If you're so disinterested in the lives of Syrians, why do anything?
 
2013-08-05 12:24:30 PM  
I agree we need to keep our noses out of this business.
 
2013-08-05 12:25:55 PM  

super_grass: Yeah, that's usually what you do when your population is rebelling.

You think Obama wouldn't pound on the red button like Bill on an intern if Cousinfark, MS tried to violently claim independence?


They really should. Used to have this little Chops, ribs, and soul-food place that I would, and have driven 300 miles to eat at.
Nicest colored folks in the world owned it, never saw even 1 angry face in the place...the food was that good!
It's a different world, maybe it should be a country...lots bigger than Monaco.
 
2013-08-05 12:26:09 PM  
Next thing you know we'll be in "strongly worded letter" territory.
 
2013-08-05 12:27:11 PM  

johnphantom: I agree we need to keep our noses out of this business.


Thanks to "our" constant geopolitical manipulation, "our" noses are buried deep into the anus of every political and military dispute around the world.  The CIA, state department, or DoD has their finger in this pie somehow already, ignoring all the corporate bullshiat that's almost certainly involved.

A neo-imperial super-power can't pretend to be isolationist when it's convenient.
 
2013-08-05 12:27:50 PM  

asmodeus224: Don't care.  Not worth even a single penny from out treasury or a single drop of american blood. 

And no, 'saving face' is not a valid reason to put American troops on the ground or in danger.


Wow you don't think it is worth even a single penny to make sure the Al Qaeda affiliate doesn't gain control of Syria? I think providing limited C4ISR support to make sure that doesn't happen is a pretty good deal.
 
2013-08-05 12:28:51 PM  

kregh99: Next thing you know we'll be in "strongly worded letter" territory.


Uh huh, we already cut off all of Assad's non-Russian foreign bank accounts.  And imposed embargoes(that aren't enforced by Russia) on Syria.
 
2013-08-05 12:29:23 PM  

kregh99: Next thing you know we'll be in "strongly worded letter" territory.


We could always send McCain back over there to huff and puff

/he's pretty gung-ho about it, it seems
 
2013-08-05 12:30:00 PM  

Carth: asmodeus224: Don't care.  Not worth even a single penny from out treasury or a single drop of american blood. 

And no, 'saving face' is not a valid reason to put American troops on the ground or in danger.

Wow you don't think it is worth even a single penny to make sure the Al Qaeda affiliate doesn't gain control of Syria? I think providing limited C4ISR support to make sure that doesn't happen is a pretty good deal.


Yeah, because Syria was well known for its lack of affiliation with terrorist groups before this, right?
 
2013-08-05 12:30:19 PM  
Some people are so eager to send other people to die for no good reason.
 
2013-08-05 12:30:58 PM  

Infernalist: Some people are so eager to send other people to die for no good reason.


Welcome to American Foreign policy since 1960.
 
kgf
2013-08-05 12:32:10 PM  
Uuummm... who cares?
 
2013-08-05 12:33:23 PM  

Carth: asmodeus224: Don't care.  Not worth even a single penny from out treasury or a single drop of american blood.

And no, 'saving face' is not a valid reason to put American troops on the ground or in danger.

Wow you don't think it is worth even a single penny to make sure the Al Qaeda affiliate doesn't gain control of Syria? I think providing limited C4ISR support to make sure that doesn't happen is a pretty good deal.


So we should go in on Assad's side then? Who should we support with that limited air support/logistics?
 
2013-08-05 12:33:28 PM  

ikanreed: johnphantom: I agree we need to keep our noses out of this business.

Thanks to "our" constant geopolitical manipulation, "our" noses are buried deep into the anus of every political and military dispute around the world.  The CIA, state department, or DoD has their finger in this pie somehow already, ignoring all the corporate bullshiat that's almost certainly involved.

A neo-imperial super-power can't pretend to be isolationist when it's convenient.


The US has already killed some Syrians, therefore it has a moral obligation to keep killing Syrians forever.
 
2013-08-05 12:34:41 PM  
By not launching a massive military campaign, Snobamao is trampling all over the civil rights of prominent US citizen Hal I. Burton
 
2013-08-05 12:34:44 PM  

kgf: Uuummm... who cares?


well God of course
 
2013-08-05 12:35:11 PM  

Ned Stark: ikanreed: johnphantom: I agree we need to keep our noses out of this business.

Thanks to "our" constant geopolitical manipulation, "our" noses are buried deep into the anus of every political and military dispute around the world.  The CIA, state department, or DoD has their finger in this pie somehow already, ignoring all the corporate bullshiat that's almost certainly involved.

A neo-imperial super-power can't pretend to be isolationist when it's convenient.

The US has already killed some Syrians, therefore it has a moral obligation to keep killing Syrians forever.


Not calling for military intervention, just pointing out that there is so much entrenched bullshiat here that pretending we're not involved is a unreasonable.
 
2013-08-05 12:41:38 PM  

ikanreed: Ned Stark: ikanreed: johnphantom: I agree we need to keep our noses out of this business.

Thanks to "our" constant geopolitical manipulation, "our" noses are buried deep into the anus of every political and military dispute around the world.  The CIA, state department, or DoD has their finger in this pie somehow already, ignoring all the corporate bullshiat that's almost certainly involved.

A neo-imperial super-power can't pretend to be isolationist when it's convenient.

The US has already killed some Syrians, therefore it has a moral obligation to keep killing Syrians forever.

Not calling for military intervention, just pointing out that there is so much entrenched bullshiat here that pretending we're not involved is a unreasonable.


So what was the point? We all know about the century and a half old news that the US has been farking people for fun and profit.
 
2013-08-05 12:42:49 PM  

super_grass: Yeah, that's usually what you do when your population is rebelling.

You think Obama wouldn't pound on the red button like Bill on an intern if Cousinfark, MS tried to violently claim independence?


I doubt very much if they would authorize the use of nukes within the US. The drones would be thicker than mosquitoes though, and it seems like it's damn hard to distinguish between a wedding party and a group of hardened terrorists heading off to terrorize, so you might want to lay low until the shooting is all done.
 
2013-08-05 12:44:33 PM  

Ned Stark: ikanreed: Ned Stark: ikanreed: johnphantom: I agree we need to keep our noses out of this business.

Thanks to "our" constant geopolitical manipulation, "our" noses are buried deep into the anus of every political and military dispute around the world.  The CIA, state department, or DoD has their finger in this pie somehow already, ignoring all the corporate bullshiat that's almost certainly involved.

A neo-imperial super-power can't pretend to be isolationist when it's convenient.

The US has already killed some Syrians, therefore it has a moral obligation to keep killing Syrians forever.

Not calling for military intervention, just pointing out that there is so much entrenched bullshiat here that pretending we're not involved is a unreasonable.

So what was the point? We all know about the century and a half old news that the US has been farking people for fun and profit.


Because some people are saying "Let's do nothing" as if that's possible or already true.
 
2013-08-05 12:44:41 PM  

kgf: Uuummm... who cares?


Is this a typical Farker trying to be edgy and cool, or are you a genuine asshole?
 
2013-08-05 12:47:07 PM  

asmodeus224: Carth: asmodeus224: Don't care.  Not worth even a single penny from out treasury or a single drop of american blood.

And no, 'saving face' is not a valid reason to put American troops on the ground or in danger.

Wow you don't think it is worth even a single penny to make sure the Al Qaeda affiliate doesn't gain control of Syria? I think providing limited C4ISR support to make sure that doesn't happen is a pretty good deal.

So we should go in on Assad's side then? Who should we support with that limited air support/logistics?


The Free Syrian Army? I'll let someone else figure out how we can arm the FSA without arms going to al qaeda or having a US presence on the ground.

I don't know how much but I'd say it is worth at least one penny.
 
2013-08-05 12:47:40 PM  

ikanreed: Ned Stark: ikanreed: Ned Stark: ikanreed: johnphantom: I agree we need to keep our noses out of this business.

Thanks to "our" constant geopolitical manipulation, "our" noses are buried deep into the anus of every political and military dispute around the world.  The CIA, state department, or DoD has their finger in this pie somehow already, ignoring all the corporate bullshiat that's almost certainly involved.

A neo-imperial super-power can't pretend to be isolationist when it's convenient.

The US has already killed some Syrians, therefore it has a moral obligation to keep killing Syrians forever.

Not calling for military intervention, just pointing out that there is so much entrenched bullshiat here that pretending we're not involved is a unreasonable.

So what was the point? We all know about the century and a half old news that the US has been farking people for fun and profit.

Because some people are saying "Let's do nothing" as if that's possible or already true.


If you want to stop doing shiat than at some point you have to start not doing shiat.

There's no day like today.
 
2013-08-05 12:50:45 PM  

mod3072: super_grass: Yeah, that's usually what you do when your population is rebelling.

You think Obama wouldn't pound on the red button like Bill on an intern if Cousinfark, MS tried to violently claim independence?

I doubt very much if they would authorize the use of nukes within the US. The drones would be thicker than mosquitoes though, and it seems like it's damn hard to distinguish between a wedding party and a group of hardened terrorists heading off to terrorize, so you might want to lay low until the shooting is all done.


Run to Canada.  With a civil war police action in effect the entrance restrictions will likely be quite manageable and not require a $150k bank account to get citizenship.  Within hours of the first sign of trouble I plan to be sucking maple syrup and learning french in my new home country.  fark the democrats and the republicans, run the fark away.  Hope they all choke on each other.

/O Caaaanaadaaa!
 
2013-08-05 12:51:32 PM  

johnphantom: I agree we need to keep our noses out of this business.


I also agree. It's two groups of terrorists fighting each other.

If the USA wants to be humanitarian it should accept lots of Syrian refugees and settle them in North Dakota and Detroit. Award bonus points for those who don't support either side and just want to live in productive peace.
 
2013-08-05 12:53:58 PM  

mod3072: it seems like it's damn hard to distinguish between a wedding party and a group of hardened terrorists heading off to terrorize


The wedding party is the one that stays in one place. They are easier to hit since you don't need to lead them. Perhaps you meant "it's damn hard to distinguish between a wedding party and a funeral", which I would definitely agree with. In that case, you would need to poke around in the crater to find some evidence to tell them apart.
 
2013-08-05 12:59:24 PM  
What I find disturbing is that Syria has fractured into three distinct regions. Don't they know how wonderful diversity is?
 
2013-08-05 01:10:49 PM  

Begoggle: kgf: Uuummm... who cares?

Is this a typical Farker trying to be edgy and cool, or are you a genuine asshole?


Is there a difference?
 
2013-08-05 01:11:54 PM  
Attacking civilians is a horrible thing and I hope the people in charge of the Syrian government die in horrible ways when they get theirs.

I am not an arms dealer but isn't a ballistic missile comparable to a SCUD or a V2, maybe a bit more accurate.  It is the payload of the weapons that determine war crimes.  Launch mortars with white phosporus against people, warcrimes.   A scud with conventional explosives, probably not.

The Syrian government probably already crossed the line using chemical weapons, but as much as I suspect members of the US intelligence community may be there steering things, we are officially staying out of this and not freely giving weapons to people that could turn on the US that quickly.

/And the Syrian government shills out there can die in a fire.
 
2013-08-05 01:18:48 PM  

Enemabag Jones: I am not an arms dealer but isn't a ballistic missile comparable to a SCUD


If it's Syria, chances are it IS a SCUD.
 
2013-08-05 01:20:49 PM  
Why is this even being reported? READ THE MEMO! This stuff does not matter at all unless Israel does it. GET WITH THE PROGRAM. Syria and all the other Arab countries are free to do this as much as they want. It is ONLY an atrocity when Israel bombs civilians, not Syria or any other Arab country.
 
2013-08-05 01:21:16 PM  
Syria: "Oops, that was a ballistic missile" Single-use disposable drone.

/Same thing, really
//"Suicide Drones"?
 
2013-08-05 01:22:21 PM  
They are firing missiles at populated targets in the Middle East and killing hundreds of civilians?
We had better attach a strongly worded letter to the next Israeli arms shipment.

What? It's Syria firing missiles at Syrian civilians?
Cancel the letter then.
 
2013-08-05 01:24:49 PM  

super_grass: Yeah, that's usually what you do when your population is rebelling.

You think Obama wouldn't pound on the red button like Bill on an intern if Cousinfark, MS tried to violently claim independence?


He wouldn't have to.  Maybe if some huge chunk of the US tried this all at once or something, I dunno.
 
2013-08-05 01:26:49 PM  
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Kids these days...
 
2013-08-05 01:26:55 PM  

The One True TheDavid: johnphantom: I agree we need to keep our noses out of this business.

I also agree. It's two groups of terrorists fighting each other.

If the USA wants to be humanitarian it should accept lots of Syrian refugees and settle them in North Dakota and Detroit. Award bonus points for those who don't support either side and just want to live in productive peace.


OMG THE ADMINISTRATION IS BRINGING IN SHIPLOADS OF ISLAMISTS.
 
2013-08-05 01:33:40 PM  
graphics8.nytimes.com
 
2013-08-05 01:39:35 PM  
HipsterTrash,
[Pelosi and Assad]


Don't blame Pelosi for not knowing he was going to become the next Michael Corlone after the Arab spring.
 
2013-08-05 01:40:40 PM  

asmodeus224: Don't care.  Not worth even a single penny from out treasury or a single drop of american blood. 

And no, 'saving face' is not a valid reason to put American troops on the ground or in danger.


C'mon! You're talking non-sense.  You're talking as if Israel doesn't make our foreign policy.
 
2013-08-05 01:43:09 PM  
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/am i doing it right?
 
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