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(Washington Post)   SCOTUS: You know we might have to discuss how the Constitution applies to stuff like say your cell phone, you know like the Fourth Amendment   ( divider line
    More: Interesting, U.S. Supreme Court, supreme courts, fourth amendment, amendments, cell phones, organizations, counter-terrorism, Nick Stahl  
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3654 clicks; posted to Politics » on 05 Aug 2013 at 12:48 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2013-08-05 11:36:02 AM  
2 votes:
I don't see how they could possibly have the authority to do this. Both Justice Scalia and I have Command-F'd the entire Constitution (plus all Amendments), The Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, the Articles of Confederation and the Iroquois's Great Binding Law and failed to find one even one instance of the word "cell phone." So there.
2013-08-05 03:07:07 PM  
1 vote:

pdkl95: hardinparamedic: pdkl95: "Why I wrote PGP", by Philip Zimmermann

Too bad you libby libs persecuted him for shooting a marijuana fiend.

Philip Zimmermann, noted cryptography expert and author of PGP ("Pretty Good Privacy") may have been investigated by the feds as a criminal, but that was because of their fantasy about certain types of math being a "munition" and covered by the Arms Export Control Act.

At no point should he be confused with a certain dickless coward.

/also, "libby libs"? Ahh, trolls yet again jumping at things they wish were true...
//welcome to yet another ignore list

I'm pretty sure if you run that through some restricted maths and programs like such as and furthermore you'll find it was a joke.
2013-08-05 02:51:46 PM  
1 vote:
Whenever I see SCOTUS I think SCROTUMS.

Is it just me?
2013-08-05 01:42:30 PM  
1 vote:

qorkfiend: Explodo: Bontesla: Tom_Slick: I'm curious, if your phone has a pass code, do agencies still search it without a warrant? Is that going to be the dividing line?

I've seen that argument before. The court (a US court) ordered that without a warrant - a suspect could not be compelled to provide his password.

I can't remember any details beyond that...

In all likelihood LEOs don't need your password.  All they need is your SIM card and that fancy little reader the NSA sold them.  Stored your data in the phones memory?  Oh, watch this then...(plugs it in)  Tah-dah!  all your data...

The only way to avoid that would be to have your very own OS on your phone so that you could encrypt EVERYTHING on the phone well below OS level.  Maybe there's already one out there.  Currently our government does their damnedest to make sure that you're not allowed to do that though.

Imagine how hard the government would work to make it so that you cannot have a phone that NEVER connects to anything without your explicitly telling it to do so and is fully encrypted.  It's already clear that turning the phone off is not a deterrent to being tracked as they can turn it back on remotely or just put it in surveillance mode so that it listens for them.  You'd have to pull the battery all the time, and some phones don't even have that option.

The question then becomes: can you be compelled to give up the encryption key?

/hot, like Subby's sister
2013-08-05 01:16:29 PM  
1 vote:

Uranus Is Huge!: In 30 - 40 years, a generation raised with ubiquitous social media will be in charge of our court system. I'm guessing their notion of privacy will be very different.

And Emperor Zuckerberg will have packed the High Council with sycophants to suppress the opposition.

2013-08-05 12:44:07 PM  
1 vote:
I'm going to just go ahead and assume I don't have any rights anymore.
2013-08-05 11:33:18 AM  
1 vote:
IDK, My BFF - the Fourth Amendment!
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