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(Washington Post)   The second Guantanamo-type prison few Americans know anything about   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 46
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2013-08-05 10:39:22 AM
We didn't want to know about Guantanamo and we don't want to know about this one.
 
2013-08-05 10:41:57 AM
There's a lot of similarly bad crap that goes on that we don't know about.

You really think they stopped the bad stuff they did during the cold war?
 
2013-08-05 10:42:35 AM
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2013-08-05 10:43:08 AM

neversubmit: We didn't want to know about Guantanamo and we don't want to know about this one.


And that's a damn shame. If you can't make your case against someone in a court, then let them go.

I understand there are people you know are guilty as sin and dangerous as a rabid skunk and you just can't prove it, but wtf ever happened to just dissapearing those people?
 
2013-08-05 10:44:58 AM
This is why every time any American conservative mentions the word "freedom" i want to puke.
Stalin had about as much credibility on freedom as most modern us politicians, from the democratic center (obama included) to the tea party.
 
2013-08-05 10:45:42 AM
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"We were up to our necks in terrorists before. But good news! Ten years later we're here!"
 
2013-08-05 10:46:21 AM

Carousel Beast: neversubmit: We didn't want to know about Guantanamo and we don't want to know about this one.

And that's a damn shame. If you can't make your case against someone in a court, then let them go.

I understand there are people you know are guilty as sin and dangerous as a rabid skunk and you just can't prove it, but wtf ever happened to just dissapearing those people?


"Good" Americans don't care about that stuff as long as the trains run on time.
 
2013-08-05 10:46:21 AM
So much for take no prisoners, show no mercy.
 
2013-08-05 10:46:45 AM
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"Shout out to my brother here. Dude we gotta smoke it up after this meeting."
 
2013-08-05 10:48:29 AM
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"Fun fact: I was a stunt double for Telly Savalas. Huge Kojak fan."
 
2013-08-05 10:49:33 AM
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"After careful deliberation, this is exactly how many f*cks I officially give about Afghanistan."
 
2013-08-05 10:49:37 AM
bdub77:

Are you my alt?
 
2013-08-05 10:50:32 AM

lunogled: This is why every time any American conservative mentions the word "freedom" i want to puke.


American liberals, on the other hand, are changing the world with their universal message of love and tolerance.
 
2013-08-05 10:51:52 AM
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2013-08-05 10:54:23 AM
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2013-08-05 10:54:33 AM

Molavian: lunogled: This is why every time any American conservative mentions the word "freedom" i want to puke.

American liberals, on the other hand, are changing the world with their universal message of love and tolerance.


No but some (a minority not including those in charge, but some) "American liberals" do understand that concentration camps and freedom don't mix.
I still have to find a tea partier who says "I love freedom so lets close gitmo and bagram". Their defense of "freedom" is about imaginary freedoms, not real ones.
 
2013-08-05 10:55:48 AM
www.afghanistan-un.org
"Now this place. This place is a f*cking racket. You guys. I gotta be honest. You guys are amazing."
 
2013-08-05 10:57:21 AM
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2013-08-05 10:58:43 AM
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2013-08-05 11:00:25 AM
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"I gotta be honest that packet of money feels pretty light."
 
2013-08-05 11:01:48 AM
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"Worst. Hiter impersonators. Ever."
 
2013-08-05 11:02:08 AM

bdub77: "Fun fact: I was a stunt double for Telly Savalas. Huge Kojak fan."


On all honesty, Karzai looks more like Ben Kingsley than Kojak.
 
2013-08-05 11:02:11 AM
Both what neversubmit & machoprogrammer typed, above,
 
2013-08-05 11:02:49 AM
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"And poof! The money's gone."
 
2013-08-05 11:06:23 AM
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"Seriously though this is how many f*cks I really give."
 
2013-08-05 11:08:37 AM
Afghanistan?  Maybe we should worry about the one within our own borders in southern california

www.kmdarchitects.com
 
2013-08-05 11:24:08 AM

johnny_vegas: Afghanistan?  Maybe we should worry about the one within our own borders in southern california

[www.kmdarchitects.com image 850x472]


Google says that's a brig for 200 US service members. Is it not?
 
2013-08-05 11:33:19 AM

lunogled: Molavian: lunogled: This is why every time any American conservative mentions the word "freedom" i want to puke.

American liberals, on the other hand, are changing the world with their universal message of love and tolerance.

No but some (a minority not including those in charge, but some) "American liberals" do understand that concentration camps and freedom don't mix.
I still have to find a tea partier who says "I love freedom so lets close gitmo and bagram". Their defense of "freedom" is about imaginary freedoms, not real ones.


I'm not an adherent to the Tea Party, but I'm a Republican. Do I count?
 
Kiz
2013-08-05 11:36:20 AM
Personally, I'd just spread rumors that we've implanted tracking devices surgically in them all, then cut them loose.

Or surgically implant tracking devices in them first, y'know, if we have that sort of thing.
 
2013-08-05 12:01:37 PM
There are those of use who do know, mostly people who have been forced to turn to news from outside the US in order to find out what's really going on.

From the BBC, 2010:  Red Cross confirms 'second jail' at Bagram, Afghanistan
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2013-08-05 12:05:33 PM
The second Guantanamo-type prison few Americans know anything about

/Just couldn't resist
 
2013-08-05 12:08:28 PM

spickus: johnny_vegas: Afghanistan?  Maybe we should worry about the one within our own borders in southern california

[www.kmdarchitects.com image 850x472]

Google says that's a brig for 200 US service members. Is it not?


You are correct.  I was fishing for faux rage...slow day at work, my apologies
 
2013-08-05 12:09:54 PM

bdub77: [encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 284x178]
"I have the Powerball numbers here. And the winner is (I don't even have to look) oh my god my wife!"



You're killing me!
 
2013-08-05 12:56:15 PM
It's OK because indefinitely detaining people for no lawful reason is sure to only endear us to those countries where real terrorists actually recruit.

At least we let the fourteen year old kid go. Eventually.
 
2013-08-05 01:39:42 PM
I always forget how beautiful Afghanistan is. Which reminds me how fast they were moving towards becoming a modern state before the USSR invasion.

/close Bagram already you bunch of freedom hating fukwads
 
2013-08-05 01:43:46 PM
If the press didn't know all the names of the people detained at GITMO what are the chances they would have been shipped off to this place just so the PR stunt of closing GITMO could be completed?
 
2013-08-05 02:05:12 PM
I warned my overly liberal friends (I'm a moderate) that voting for Obama would change nothing on this topic.  No one believed me, alas.
 
2013-08-05 02:28:52 PM
Knock each one out for an hour.  When he comes to, tell him that a transmitter chip was inserted somewhere in his body, so that we will always know where he is.  Then buy him a 7-11 somewhere in the states.  If he is a particularly nasty one, buy him a gun and put his 7-11 somewhere in Detroit near a black moslem enclave.
 
2013-08-05 03:43:28 PM
Is it just me, or is someone in this thread obsessed with Karzai, but apparently incapable of contributing anything of substance to the conversation?
 
2013-08-05 03:44:12 PM

Ker_Thwap: I warned my overly liberal friends (I'm a moderate) that voting for Obama would change nothing on this topic.  No one believed me, alas.


Too bad they didn't vote for Romney, huh?
 
2013-08-05 05:37:41 PM

mdeesnuts: I always forget how beautiful Afghanistan is. Which reminds me how fast they were moving towards becoming a modern state before the USSR invasion.

/close Bagram already you bunch of freedom hating fukwads


And what do YOU propose doing with the "residents" there?
 
2013-08-05 06:24:09 PM

Molavian: lunogled: This is why every time any American conservative mentions the word "freedom" i want to puke.

American liberals, on the other hand, are changing the world with their universal message of love and tolerance.


Who are these American liberals you speak of?
 
2013-08-05 06:27:16 PM

Ker_Thwap: I warned my overly liberal friends (I'm a moderate) that voting for Obama would change nothing on this topic.  No one believed me, alas.


On the other hand it hasn't become even worse. Which it probably would have done if Romney and his crew were elected.
 
2013-08-05 06:42:44 PM

100 Watt Walrus: Ker_Thwap: I warned my overly liberal friends (I'm a moderate) that voting for Obama would change nothing on this topic.  No one believed me, alas.

Too bad they didn't vote for Romney, huh?


Eh, he was an idiot too.  I was only discussing the single issue.
 
2013-08-05 07:31:42 PM

Mouser: mdeesnuts: I always forget how beautiful Afghanistan is. Which reminds me how fast they were moving towards becoming a modern state before the USSR invasion.

/close Bagram already you bunch of freedom hating fukwads

And what do YOU propose doing with the "residents" there?


Set 'em free.

Seriously. Most of them haven't been charged with a damned thing, but because of the very act of imprisoning them for years in horrifying conditions, they're now "too dangerous to release." We're not the law in Afghanistan - let the Afghan government decide what to do with them. We need to stop running prisons in other countries.
 
2013-08-05 08:32:22 PM

FormlessOne: Mouser: mdeesnuts: I always forget how beautiful Afghanistan is. Which reminds me how fast they were moving towards becoming a modern state before the USSR invasion.

/close Bagram already you bunch of freedom hating fukwads

And what do YOU propose doing with the "residents" there?

Set 'em free.

Seriously. Most of them haven't been charged with a damned thing, but because of the very act of imprisoning them for years in horrifying conditions, they're now "too dangerous to release." We're not the law in Afghanistan - let the Afghan government decide what to do with them. We need to stop running prisons in other countries.


Heh. Like that's ever gonna happen.

"We clearly need a transition plan on that issue," Dunford said.
Took 12 years to work that out?
 
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