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2013-08-05 09:19:19 AM
6 votes:
I actually saw some guy who had a Ted Nugent for President bumper sticker on his pickup over the weekend.

I guess I have to accept that there are people who agree with his "views."  But President?  Really?  Same people still pissing and moaning about Jane Fonda would like to see the coward who fled the fight by shiatting his pants be President.  Nonsense.
2013-08-05 10:08:38 AM
5 votes:
I don't support draft dodging cowards.
2013-08-05 10:36:12 AM
4 votes:
This turd shiat his pants to avoid service in Vietnam. That's pissing all over every draftee ever in this country and certainly sprinkles on the volunteer military as well. Nugent's not an asshole. That would be giving him too much credit. He's a shiatstain, a little man who can't keep his sewer of a mouth shut.
2013-08-05 10:28:41 AM
4 votes:
One word.

Vietnam. If he wasn't brave enough to be drafted and go to Southeast Asia and fight for French oil rights, he has no business expecting others to volunteer to go to the Middle East and fight for British oil rights. I mean, he didn't even have those life-threatening, debilitating pyloid cysts that struck down his fellow coward Rush Limbaugh.
2013-08-05 10:25:34 AM
4 votes:
"People who hate Ted Nugent hate freedom," he said.

No, people who hate freedom hate freedom, and people who hate Ted Nugent hate Ted Nugent.

Moron
2013-08-05 09:53:40 AM
4 votes:
He promised us he'd be dead or in jail by now. He obviously doesn't care to keep his promises.

/he's a chickenhawk caged-hunt enthusiast AND an admitted pedophile
//no, seriously... the girl was like 12.... admittedly, it was Courtney Love and she's 31 flavors of f*cked up from the get-go, but he still rolled with it
2013-08-05 09:49:17 AM
4 votes:
Nugent is an colossal asshole, but is he really worth protesting? He doesn't have any authority or even a TV/radio show with advertisers to persuade. Seems like a waste of time better spent on something that actually matters.

If anything, protesting only galvanizes his attention who resolve. You know, a troll.
2013-08-05 09:47:13 AM
4 votes:
Good question. While he's certainly worthy of ridicule, hating him is akin to hating the random crazy guy you see walking down the street yelling at people who aren't there.
2013-08-05 02:16:27 PM
3 votes:

STRYPERSWINE: The man is always knee deep in about a half dozen charities and projects at any given time.  The MASSIVE amount of charity work that he does both for the locals and for the troops more than makes up for what he did and didn't do in the 70s.  Ted Nugent is (or at least has become) a great American.  And he puts on a HELL of a show.  Stranglehold, Cat Scratch Fever, Wango Tango, Wang Tang Sweet Poontang, Dog Eat Dog, Hey Baby:  those are all great songs that ROCK.  And that doesn't even include Damn Yankees who are sorely missed.


Hannity is knee deep in a ton of charities too. Of course, those charities don't really seem to do much, other than pad out salaries for their office staff, their consultants, and give less than 10% of their take to the troops, but hey, it's a charity, right?

If you want to talk about great shows, you might want to catch ZZ Top. THOSE guys still put on a great show. The last time I saw them on tour was with Aerosmith, and I felt bad Steven Tyler having to follow them. Ted is...well...he's pretty much where Kid Rock is going to be in another 20 years. Ted has some fans, but in order to get any sort of interest, he has to drum up interest, and right now, Ted does so by being a controversy magnet. It's less about "freedom" than a sales strategy, and an attempt to stay in the limelight, despite not really doing much until he could attach himself to a "cause" to essentially cash in ancillary interest.

Call me when he hits even half of what Jimmy Buffett has done for tours. Jimmy doesn't have to generate controversy, he just tours and puts out albums. Cripes, let me know when he hops on tours half as hard as ZZ Top. The man has been coasting for years, and spouting crazy is just a way to keep in the limelight without having to do much real work, and it gives him something to point people at other than his statutory rape and pants besh*tting.

It's not freedom that people despise, it's the chest thumping to distract folks from his own smirking history of dodging away from the very responsibility that he claims to love so much. He's perfectly fine to send other folks to die, so long as he can hunt and play the tough guy when he's safely at home. It's not his "freedom" that folks find objectionable, it's his doucheyness and his smugness for being a swollen turd of human being. That the party is reaching out to a self confessed pedophile says something about the current state of the party. That he's a chickenhawk and proud of that pants crapping only makes it worse.
2013-08-05 10:48:21 AM
3 votes:

monoski: Why do people even listen to musicians when they are not singing? The chances of any of these idiots making any significant contributions to political or social dialogue are pretty slim.


Just playing devil's advocate here, but that's a fallacy.  Ad hominem.

What is your job?  What's your career?  Are your opinions and thoughts outside of that career insignificant?

Judge the person and their thoughts on their own merits.  Dismissing someone simply because they're a celebrity is kind of lazy.

Unfortunately, they have wider reach and greater audiences for their ideas.  So while I sympathize with your sentiment, it's a little wrong-headed.
2013-08-05 10:04:24 AM
3 votes:
The place he's playing, according to the Wiki, has a capacity of 750. Tickets for the Nuge are $30 and going fast many still available.

Irrelevance. That's got to be a way worse punishment for an insecure attention whore than any protest. Hell, the protest probably feeds that enormous, starving ego.
2013-08-05 05:47:27 PM
2 votes:

STRYPERSWINE: Just because he didn't go to the jungle doesn't mean he didn't do his part.


Yes.  It does.  He's a pants-shiatting draft dodger.  That's the part he didn't do, the going to war thing.
2013-08-05 09:50:03 AM
2 votes:
For one  thing, he lied to us.
2013-08-05 09:49:35 AM
2 votes:
Hate Ted Nugent?

I pity the fool.
2013-08-05 09:12:04 AM
2 votes:
I'm going with the "'cause he's a total farking whackjob" theory..
2013-08-06 07:17:52 PM
1 votes:
My uncle died in Vietnam so that coward could stay here, writing shiatty music and screwing adolescents.
2013-08-06 03:26:15 AM
1 votes:

STRYPERSWINE: Soup4Bonnie: STRYPERSWINE:   Everyone has different talents and abilities.

shiatting your pants to avoid the draft isn't a talent.


But raising money, entertaining deployed troops, donating to auctions, running a camp for underprivileged children, contributing to law enforcement, donating massive amounts of meat to poor people, and the thousands of other acts of philanthropy ARE talents, which would have been wasted if he had been sniped by Charlie in 1973. More people benefit from him now than by a potential enlistment thirty five years ago, where he would have contributed nothing.


So because he would have contributed nothing then but does now obviates his past misdeed?  What about that bullet he would have taken which would have saved that other fellow from dying?  You know... the one who was going to provide us with free renewable energy via an amazing invention had he lived?  See, if you can find a way to ignore his past (which would be perhaps forgivable had he ever claimed the act and admitted he was wrong) then I can come up with hypotheticals.  He's a chickenhawk and those are execrable to myself and many others.

He's still a racist nut-job shiatstain.
2013-08-05 08:50:59 PM
1 votes:
Even the rednecks here in Maine think Nugent is an ass.
2013-08-05 06:28:38 PM
1 votes:

STRYPERSWINE:   Everyone has different talents and abilities.


shiatting your pants to avoid the draft isn't a talent.
2013-08-05 03:42:02 PM
1 votes:

hubiestubert: It's not freedom that people despise, it's the chest thumping to distract folks from his own smirking history of dodging away from the very responsibility that he claims to love so much. He's perfectly fine to send other folks to die...


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2013-08-05 03:22:06 PM
1 votes:

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Because he's a loser.


Mmmmm... Fish tacos. I love fish tacos.
2013-08-05 02:49:37 PM
1 votes:
If being a freedom lover means loving Ted Nugent, I will do everything I can to make us into North Korea.
2013-08-05 12:34:19 PM
1 votes:

monoski: Why do people even listen to musicians when they are not singing? The chances of any of these idiots making any significant contributions to political or social dialogue are pretty slim.


Some singers only sing to get a message out.  Jello Biafra sure as shiat isn't a singer for his pleasant tonal quality.
2013-08-05 12:32:36 PM
1 votes:
Why has anyone ever listened to Ted Nugent at any point in time?    He's always been a gimmick and a hack musician.    There's a reason why he's trying to distract you with his politics and songs about raping underage girls ... he doesn't want you to notice how mind-numbingly mediocre his  chops are.
2013-08-05 11:40:31 AM
1 votes:

ManateeGag: I don't support draft dodging cowards.


I do, but Nugent is still an asshole.
2013-08-05 10:57:18 AM
1 votes:
When you claim to hate government getting in your face and telling you what to do, don't spend all of your time in people's faces telling them what to do.
I'm going to say I hate Ted Nugent because he's a hypocrite.  And his music has always sucked.  And he's mentally unstable.
2013-08-05 10:44:07 AM
1 votes:
Why do people even listen to musicians when they are not singing? The chances of any of these idiots making any significant contributions to political or social dialogue are pretty slim.
2013-08-05 10:39:55 AM
1 votes:
Answer a question to read the article? OK, just his once and only so I can copy pasta the article here:

NEW HAVEN - Barbara Fair will be outside Toad's Place Tuesday night picketing Ted Nugent's appearance at the music venue, and she says she really wants is to talk to the controversial figure.
Fair and others will be protesting statements Nugent made about immigrants, blacks, gays and Trayvon Martin. Some 70 people committed to joining the picket line and thousands signing a petition asking that Toad's cancel the "Motor City Madman's" concert.

"I would want to have a conversation with him to get him to think about some of the things he says. Like he thinks he is not racist because he has a black band leader - that's like 'oh, my best friend is black.' That means absolutely nothing. The words that spew out of your mouth show that you are a racist," said Fair, of My Brothers Keeper.

Ina Staklo, another protester, said both sides have used the free speech argument to support or criticize Nugent and the decision by Toad's Place to book the hard rock musician him is not a constitutional issue that requires it to bring him to their stage.

"It is up to (Toad's) discretion whom to allow to speak, whom to allow to perform on their premises based on their track record. So, they understand what Nugent's background is, they understand what his views are, they understand what he has said and what he is going to say and how that impacts this community.
"They chose profit over curbing that speech and that is entirely their decision," Staklo said.

Because they have not been able to talk directly with Brian Phelps, the president and owner of Toad's, they feel a picket line is their immediate option to make their views known, and additional picketing of Toad's is possible. "We are going to protest and think about future boycotts of the business since that is what seems to affect him," Fair said.

They pointed out that shows get cancelled all the time.
"Remember the Dixie Chicks?" said Chris Graffa. "They were getting banned all over the South."
The Dixie Chicks were boycotted by country stations in 2003 for criticizing President Bush's plans for war in Iraq.
When the Nugent booking was announced, Phelps defended his decision, although he has refused to comment lately. His attorney was unavailable for comment Sunday.

"Ted Nugent is an entertainer and he has his own views on a lot of stuff. The entire spectrum of entertainer folks go from extreme right to extreme left, and some in the middle," Phelps said last month. "But that's got nothing to do with his show here, nor does it have anything to do with Toad's Place. This is just a music show. His political views are his, and the media that gets involved with him."

Most recently, Nugent's blog on George Zimmerman, who was acquitted of all charges in the death of Trayvon Martin, has kept him in the spotlight.

"George Zimmerman is thankfully and rightfully not facing jail time for legally defending himself, but he is far from a free man ... While there is little he can do to protect himself from a civil-rights charge by our gun-running, pro-New Black Panthers attorney general, Mr. Zimmerman may have some legal room to move regarding a wrongful death lawsuit by Trayvon Martin's family," he said.

He described Trayvon Martin, who was unarmed, as a "17-year-old dope smoking, racist gangsta wannabe."

He said the black community has a "mindless tendency to violence."

Last year, Nugent told the National Rifle Association,"If Barack Obama becomes the president in November, again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year'" That prompted a visit from the Secret Service.
The New Haven Register this week stood by its editorial criticizing Nugent and continued to call on "Fox News to challenge and condemn the hatred and racism advocated by guests such as Ted Nugent and Ann Coulter instead of continuing to give them a platform." but it apologized for "a poor choice of words."
Nugent, in an interview for the nationally syndicated radio program "The Weekend" that was aired on WGAN in Maine and dozens of other stations across the country Saturday, called the Register editorial writers and their supporters "subhuman numb-nuts." He called the protesters "idiots."
"People who hate Ted Nugent hate freedom," he said.

Addressing the radio's host, Nugent said: "You and I stand on the line of reason" and we must continue to speak out.Gregory Williams of Seminarians for a Democratic Society said they were unable to speak with Phelps on Friday when they went to Toad's, but they were told by others there that they could only protest across the street from the business.

Williams said the law protects a moving picket line on a public sidewalk if access to the building continues. "It is entirely legal," Williams said.

The New Haven police have said Toad's has hired a couple of extra duty officers as they typically do with large events.

Staklo said supporters are saying the not only are "personally offended by his Nugent's hate speech, but ... feel betrayed by Toad's Place where they went as teenagers or where their kids go. They always considered it a welcoming multiracial place. ... Now people are saying they are not letting their kids go there."

Distributed by MCT Information Services
2013-08-05 10:39:54 AM
1 votes:

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Good question. While he's certainly worthy of ridicule, hating him is akin to hating the random crazy guy you see walking down the street yelling at people who aren't there.


I would agree with this if reporters regularly interviewed and published interviews with "random crazy guy you see walking down the street".
2013-08-05 10:37:54 AM
1 votes:
I for one am shocked that a reasonable dialogue cannot be forged with the creator of "Wang Dang Sweet Poontang".  You've just got to really listen to some of Ted's lyrics to really get what he's trying to say.

For example "I made that pussy purr with a stroke of my hand" is what is known as a double entendre.  Ted is speaking as if he's referencing a cat, but it could mean that he's referencing a woman's anatomy.

There are just so many layers to Ted's lyrics.
2013-08-05 10:37:17 AM
1 votes:
I don't like it that if I want to go to the county fair to see some bands I liked in High School (late '70s), and Nuge is on the bill, he gets to think he was even part of the reason I attended.
2013-08-05 10:36:55 AM
1 votes:
Fark da Nuge
2013-08-05 10:34:55 AM
1 votes:
Why do freedom haters hate Ted Nugent

Why do Ted Nugent fans seemingly love red herrings?

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I did not realize seafood was their preferred meat. Imagine that?

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2013-08-05 10:23:51 AM
1 votes:
His music is really terrible. Just really bad dickrock jock jamz with no subtlety or ability and it was essentially for people with no taste to cruise to while waiting for Nu Metal to be invented.
2013-08-05 10:21:13 AM
1 votes:
Ya gotta admit, Farklibs, Stranglehold is a classic.
2013-08-05 10:20:44 AM
1 votes:
Probably for many of the same reasons that real Libertarians hate Ron/Rand Paul, Tea Partiers, Rush, Beck, Fox News, etc.
2013-08-05 09:50:04 AM
1 votes:
attention whore resolve.
2013-08-05 09:44:21 AM
1 votes:
He pooped his jorts.
 
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